nubbins`: before the fact? c'est impossible
mircea_popescu: what, you expect the law to intervene ?
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoehorning << notwithstanding the bad grammar, that's one of the more representative wikipedia articles i dare say.
mircea_popescu: "Shoehorning is a ploy used by psychics, or religious apologetic or other charlatans, as a way to make it sound like their prophecies or those of earlier prophets had come true. "
cazalla: they tear down anything old and replace it with modern architecture, and what they can't pull down completely, they subert the old by merging the new into it
cazalla: there is nothing redeeming about it at all
mircea_popescu: most everyone lives there neh ?
mircea_popescu: im sure there's plenty in ozland.
mircea_popescu: brendafdez: The fact that people here see the US as the land of freedom really boggles the mind.<< they believe teh movies.
cazalla: so unless they come here..
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 06:32:38; *: BingoBoingo kinda wants to it the phils before .ar to pick up a cheap wife
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1059746 << you know that's the wrong way to go about the wife business. if you just want a cheap one the cheapest wife you could ever get is no wife at all.
cazalla: even the bond goldeneye girls were meh
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 06:30:59; brendafdez: There I fell in love with a Russian girl, it was in 2008, it was awesome that we'd both speak with each other in a language that was foreign for both, felt special, like being in bitcoin these days (?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1059745 << ru chicks will take over the world.
cazalla: in fact, i would harp on to my brother, who i lived with at the time, that he needed to quit drinking
mircea_popescu: you're supposed to drink that much just to keep the shit from migrating to your head.
mircea_popescu: i think i spent about the same.
cazalla: i've prob pissed away 2-3k the past 12-18 months on booze
mircea_popescu: cazalla lol you two need to stop drinking and buy coins from the proceeds.
mircea_popescu: in other news, derpy mcsweater-glass and his two nude friends : http://40.media.tumblr.com/c3b9d92eacede7d95def9d6ee99f578b/tumblr_myjsgrcYzT1rjqog4o1_1280.jpg
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 06:06:35; BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The worst part is I know this had to have been targetted. Someone had to spend a non-trivial amount of time. I suspect a partcular name and yet...
cazalla: seems to be the average, but i dunno
mircea_popescu: i've not been following the internet conversation.
mircea_popescu: is 10 inches big or small these days ?
cazalla: all the 10 inched black boyfriends in the world wouldn't make any difference for some types of women anyway
mircea_popescu: conservatives don't make very good parents for that reason. kinda why nature put all the poop in the process, make sure it gets a fair shot.
mircea_popescu: well, reformed was in there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: o wait, that's the opioid huh.
mircea_popescu: then you can make comments to them about their black boyfriends and we can ostracize you and take your stadium away.
mircea_popescu: well what's the rush.
cazalla: nah 2 in cunt, guess 1 in the ass too
davout: "she's starting by getting used to the bat's presence your honor"
cazalla: i could've claimed so with the ex gf but not this woman
mircea_popescu: talk about dropping the ball.
mircea_popescu: seriously, nobody run the endless reels of "woman fucks baseball bat" for the court on that one ?
mircea_popescu: because the wife's a stretcher ?
cazalla: not "not much reason" but no reason, why would a law abiding citizen keep his sporting equipment under the bed? surely it is in garage with the rest of the foosballs etc
mircea_popescu: what the fuck "not much reason to keep it there". what fucking reason does uninvited third party have to be in your bedroom ?
cazalla: lazer illegal, plastic knife illegal (if used as weapon), baseball bat also illegal if kept in bedroom because no legitimate reason to keep it there, must fetch from car and come back to bedroom to beat off attacker
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mircea_popescu: now i understand finally the crazy shit stick on all sides of rifle bit.
cazalla: someone is breaking into my home.. best i call the police to come in 10m time because law does not permit me to own a shot gun to blast the cunt in seconds
mircea_popescu: cazalla "mandatory sentencing" is the most ridiculous perversion of justice ever.
mircea_popescu: davout are you intimating the bureaucracy's ineffective because it lives in its own world anyway ?
cazalla: they're trying to push through mandatory sentencing for weapons here down under.. 5 years for trafficking hand guns etc
davout: few days ago in france: "terrorism is bad, let's lower the limit for cash payments from 3000 to 1000€"
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose the difference between "this is slightly annoying' and "this is terrorism" has long been lost.
davout: look, i'm not arguing that because they are annoying and potentially dangerous to aircrafts that gives a justification to anyone to forbid them, simply stating that retards will be retards, and annoy pilots in a sensitive flight phase
mircea_popescu: good cause there's all sorts of instructional videos on how to defend yourself.
davout: they can be deadly if strategically placed
mircea_popescu: the discussion wasn't if this is annoying or not, but whether the drone droning about weapons had a point. at least in my head.
davout: that's kind of like saying "if banana peels are dangerous, why don't the US marines carry them around" :D
mircea_popescu: Adlai you want the same exact set of transactions to have been accepted.
Adlai: what [i think] you want is identical answers to whether a transaction is valid
davout: i think you underestimate the danger of having a laser pointed at you when you're doing an approach
mircea_popescu: because it distracts from a discussion about how they suck, and people should fire them
mircea_popescu: when met with any novel thing, the bulk will shrug and carry on, the 19% marginals will yak about it,
mircea_popescu: this is fine as far as the system goes, it's own "democratic" logic, et all.
mircea_popescu: then bureaucrat drones are going on about weapons and whatnot, with nary a clue about anything but what could be persuasively argued to a mostly clueless public.
mircea_popescu: davout pilots did not make anything up. they say it's fucking annoying. im sure it is.
davout: instead of putting their shades on and shrugging it off
assbot: Logged on 26-02-2015 21:23:55; asciilifeform: if ends up with bitwise identical blockchain on disk (minus time data) then quite likely correct.
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2015#1034826 << problem, blockchain on disk depends on the order in which it saw those 'orphans'
davout: and you have a larger view later on the video
davout: if that's the effect on the cam, it's not a complete stretch to say that you can believe pilots when they say it's blinding
cazalla: the australian law, at least as i see it, was more them saying, ok you've had your fun but no more of this please
davout: not saying that this is a good reason to forbid lasers, i'm saying they can be pretty dangerous
davout: "Pilots unanimously say that the effect of a laser-pen's beam in the cockpit is very similar to the effect of a car's high-beam headlights at a short distance -- it blinds you. The decision-making time before a landing is only 10 critical seconds, pilots say -- and these moments are not to fight green laser beams, but to make critically important decisions. "
mircea_popescu: now, mind you, i'm the first to agree the lasers are fucking annyoing and the idiots wielding them need better hobbies.
cazalla: the trajectory of the sun combined with the police lights and lazer mounted drone caused me to run down mr gavin by accident
mircea_popescu: anyway, all this beating around the bush. here's to making the penis a dangerous weapon.
mircea_popescu: what next, this is a legitimate car crash reason ? "police lights illuminated my cockpit your honor. let the police dept pay."
davout: my cessna has these flaps you speak of :D
mircea_popescu: it will iluminate the cockpit less than what fucking police lights do.
davout: it will illuminate the cockpit, blind you, will take your mind off of your checklist
davout: and it's not like you'll get lasered at high altitudes with the PA on and your cock in some flight attendant's mouth, you'll get lasered when approaching
chetty: humans, more and more clever ways to commit mayhem on each other.
mircea_popescu: not the original statement hm ?
mircea_popescu: so they don't actually do anything, so nevermind.
mircea_popescu: they're sort-of like turkeys, which have caused problems in the past, so planes have been shielded against them, so it no longer matters.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, the pollie that said that got busted for gay sex like a year later, clearly didn't want to play ball anymore (or did)
mircea_popescu: the drones i can actually see.
mircea_popescu: "These gutless and cowardly attacks have to be stopped," he said. "I am preparing a proposal to cabinet to consider making these items a prohibited weapon."
cazalla: everyone had these fucking things circa 2008, all from dx.com
davout: it's like everyone in the sky gets pissed at you, while the laserer conveniently gives a massive arrow pointing to his sorry ass
cazalla: davout, yeah.. they coined it "lazer attacks"
cazalla: too many people were all "lulz, i lazered the pilot" here in australia so anything over 1mw.. banned
mircea_popescu: anyway, last fucking job you want in a conflict zone is flying the helicopters.
mircea_popescu: im sure driving a car is pretty awesome to fish, and for the same reason : "mamma mia if i crash this tank im fucked"
mircea_popescu: that in turn being because helicopters exist in the first place.
mircea_popescu: davout but then again, they don't have to be FOR something. they may well just be BECAUSE of something, that something being "we got a helicopter"
davout: i'd tend to agree with asciilifeform, what are all these US police helicopter-chase shows for if not for clearly asserting that "there's nowhere to run" ?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 05:13:40; asciilifeform: the helicopter is the symbol of statal power against the peon schmuck
mircea_popescu: "give us the money or we're taking your digits!"
mircea_popescu: with all this digitality of modernity, it turns out the postwar mobsters were eerily before their time.
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cazalla: the 2 year retention period is sorta bullshit anyway as it's the ISPs who need to keep the data for 2 years, but if a gov dept such as ASIO or the police request that data, they are allowed to keep it forever, so i'm sure they will just request all data so that they can keep it forever (if they aren't already doing it)
cazalla: as well as a black list to block sites like thepiratebay.. fraser's death couldn't have been timed better tbh
assbot: Logged on 19-03-2015 20:22:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1057738 << it is. people (especially people kinda too lazy to study things in depth) have all sorts of theories about privacy and keep pestering me for special addresses etc. it's a fashion is what it is, one i don't aim to encourage, and i'm stuck because w/e, serving teh customer.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-03-2015#1058040 <<< according to what you say it would be *most* people go that route, since the beginning of 2015 there are two deposits that could match an account creation, when there are 750 btc on the new accounts revenue line
cazalla: fucking media here.. former PM malcolm fraser dies.. every politician gets his 5 minutes in every newspaper, twitter feed, radio stream to express what a great leader, game changer etc etc the dead guy was
brendafdez: or thedrinkingrecord :P
brendafdez: if i'm not gonna do anything based on that information atm there's no reason i should care...
cazalla: brendafdez, you don't care about the price?
cazalla: the old mircea_popescu pic complemented trilema, but this new one is difficult with MP staring at you while you read
BingoBoingo: Nah, I jsut wanna see the hipsters burn
brendafdez: drunk and all you still care about the price? :P
BingoBoingo: ^ transaltion blows the fuck up
BingoBoingo: fluffypony: And then he left
fluffypony: made the mistake of wearing that when flying out of Dallas to go back home, and had random people shouting "Go Cards!" at me
BingoBoingo: The best way I can explain baseball aesthetically then is as a dance where every movement holds the entire game at stake
brendafdez: always lived here, yes, except for two months or so i lived in munich bc some stupid institute decided to foot the bill :D
BingoBoingo: Oh, I'm not talking about someone who throws the ball the hardest. I mean art. Waino tosses the ball among the most pleasing line.
brendafdez: art is in the eye of the beholder, so I won't dispute that. I would however find it hard to see art in sport. It must be there, but generally I just couldn't care less. When there's a major sports event here, it means 'good time to go outside and take pictures of the empty streets and such'
BingoBoingo: There was this hot German exchange chick in High School my sernior year evern though every class was equivalent of her Junior year. Let's refer to her a Kirsten Nao
brendafdez: I need to find a foreign-speaking gf/bf/whatever soon, being with the locals doesn't compare
brendafdez: I could never bring myself to like them, but I liked bands that were such crap
brendafdez: you can say it softly, but people tend to picture it in their minds with a Hitler voice xD
brendafdez: They must be really cheap :P
brendafdez: IT was the hottest thing ever, girl whispering in german softly to your ear... ahhh priceless.
brendafdez: BingoBoingo if much of your feelings of unsafeness stem from local State corruption, you'd like it in Argentina. It's not that there's no corruption over here, on the contrary, but they get to interefere much less with peoples lives. The fact that people here see the US as the land of freedom really boggles the mind.
BingoBoingo: German as a language is the suck
BingoBoingo kinda wants to it the phils before .ar to pick up a cheap wife
brendafdez: There I fell in love with a Russian girl, it was in 2008, it was awesome that we'd both speak with each other in a language that was foreign for both, felt special, like being in bitcoin these days (?
brendafdez: it was an enjoyable experience when I lived in Germany for a brief period, a couple of months, just getting to speak the local language gave me the thrills (I'm weird, I know :P)
brendafdez: dunno, but even just for the language id like to go. I mean it's weird for me speaking english so much in the internet, and never having been to an en speaking place.
BingoBoingo: Eh, not really worth it. What is there left to see?
brendafdez: tbh, I doubt I'd be able to get a US tourist visa even, at the moment
BingoBoingo: I actually kinda want to visit the phillipines before argentina
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: If you want to love anything at all here you would love the St Louis Cardinals. best art show in the middle west
brendafdez: story is making me love the big town
trinque: that's what the texas panhandle smells like
BingoBoingo: I've lived through a warm midwestern spring already where you can smell the pigshit on the beanfields. Not a thing to relive voluntarily
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: Well, I'd have to get further south than Mexico. They might want me for lab work
brendafdez: Well, here in Arg there are soybeans aplenty
BingoBoingo: From being in the middle of a hostile wasteland
brendafdez: So your feelings of 'unsafeness', where do they stem from?
brendafdez: I'm not sure if 'not at all' conveys the whole meaning of my degree of ignorance
BingoBoingo: <brendafdez> BingoBoingo over here in brendaland utc -3 is a good time for stories :P also i hate that it's too hot and can't sleep. I was trying to avoid selling more btc to get a/c considering winter is supposed to be coming << Bingo is not all powerful like MP, but for the right price could correct all of these problems
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: I do however feel much less safe here in the middle west than I did even 24 hours ago
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: I'm of dutch and not sicilian ancestry so I can't make strong promises of vengance based on besmirching the family name.
trinque: ben_vulpes: yeh how do I associate the fucker with my account?
BingoBoingo: For the longest time allegedly St Clair county has tried to fuck with me. 7 hours ago St Clair county seems to have made the jump from fucking with me specifically to fucking with members of my family.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: ;;later tell mircea_popescu deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/thing.txt << still needs the colon, but now figures out whether it's a key or deed on its own
BingoBoingo: brendafdez: So you know USia has federalism. The state level (Illinois in this case) defers to the county. In this case corrupt as St Clair county which contains East StL in its borders.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The worst part is I know this had to have been targetted. Someone had to spend a non-trivial amount of time. I suspect a partcular name and yet...
trinque: there it goes
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if it makesyafeelbetter, a phriend of mine once pwned an indian spamwalla centre where they did this.
BingoBoingo: Some lite skinned indian motherfucker was trying to exhaust my mum's ISP connection by seeding torrents of tv shows available over the air. I am the anger.
BingoBoingo: No appologies from there are possible. Fuckers targetted my mum.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 00:58:04; asciilifeform: possibly the most dangerous animal to be in the lands of usg (and au, as i understand, is a kind of target practice range for usg idiocies) is the fella with just enough to be worth skinning, but three or four zeroes short of mircea_popescu-esque atomic dirigible where he can hit back
ben_vulpes: per earlier thread, now is the time to lay in magnetic drives, chips and ram.
ben_vulpes: hm no then my memory's flawed
BingoBoingo: trinque: The way punkbot did had no real commands.
trinque: BingoBoingo: the way it currently is, it just eats whatever URL
BingoBoingo: trinque: Just copy the punkbot interface
trinque: yet direct_only=False in the command
trinque: ben_vulpes: note the two deedbots which were necessary to make it listen
BingoBoingo impressed he can maintain this anger while his democratocally elected mayor struggles to breathe http://www.bnd.com/2015/03/18/3718138/highland-mayor-takes-big-step.html
decimation: amusingly the http://www.ntp.org/ page has a box begging people to block non-assigned ips from ingressing or egressing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This is only exceptional in the sense that there are potentially nameable enemies who might b attribule
decimation: ben_vulpes: as I recall the stuff hosted on aws didn't have any problems with mr. ddos
asciilifeform may be hearing of a fella drinking on account of a crapware incident for the first time
BingoBoingo plans on setting up mum and edge router lite, but in the interim... Imma drink so much vodka
trinque goes to poke the tenyks
ben_vulpes: for all the hate it gets around here, aws is pretty solid
asciilifeform: 'So the thing that interests me the most is that this doesn't seem to have been weaponized by anyone. I'd think, given how much disparity there is between modern military units and insurgent groups and how much of that relies on air superiority, that we'd be hearing regularly about lasers being used to blind combat air pilots...' << from comments
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: lemme guess, the old classic 'fake av' sc4m
brendafdez: aws was the best alternative?
ben_vulpes: "yeah i'll take the whole thing sink luser and hooker"
ben_vulpes: otherwise this is a new one for me
ben_vulpes: <jurov> my opinions were formed by several friends eating disinfo that was later traced back to RT, with sink and hooker << hook line and sinker perhaps the phrase?
decimation: and the similarity with computers
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, note how aircraft went from tinkering in the barn to 'instruments of power'
asciilifeform: decimation: was not always so. think of the 'barnstormers' of the '30s, the '50s delusions of 'every man and his little flying coffin', etc
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah there's some truth to that, wrt aircraft in general too
ben_vulpes: the helicopter is an easily pricked balloon.
BingoBoingo: The Hind started that
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'laser terrorism' thing is, as always, smoke which is never without fire:
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I think there's some truth to that - ultimately the vast majority of computer-purchasing money is 'dumb money'
asciilifeform: decimation: what's 'it' << the difference in cpu available to luser today vs. '92
decimation: whether 10nm is the stopping point or not, I agree that this is the ultimate end. exponentially increasing fab costs cannot abide forever
mircea_popescu: which was a great run, a point that'll be made obvious by the anger of all the hanger-ons once itstops
mircea_popescu: point being, the trillions needed for 10nm and beyond aren't forthcoming and that's the end of this run.
decimation: asciilifeform: what's 'it'? the pursuit of small features?
asciilifeform: while being one of the really not so many people who found it properly useful, i will still say that ultimately it was a side effect of a mega-scam
decimation: there's little doubt that man's ability to create tiny features on silicon has far outpaced his ability to do something useful with them
mircea_popescu: there's that big bitch in there. ~economically~. the cost for 10nm is alreadyu not covered by the density benefits
asciilifeform: the folks who are supposed to be buying new computer on microshit's say-so are short a benjie or two for rent this month
decimation: well, it certainly seems that we are at the edge of what silicon can yield
asciilifeform: without fat - nothing to power the engine
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: And then you find old folks on the family tree to which you owe defference
asciilifeform: without which the idiot crud won't boot
asciilifeform: then they can go off to the shops and buy 'windows 95' because the cardboard waving hand says to (actual thing, saw alive, in '95)
asciilifeform: which is to say, it is not enough to con chumps, they must also have fat to be rendered for
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo: the basic mechanics here: wintel racket was powered, like many other similar idiocies, by the american 'fat'
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> decimation from what i recall reading on teh topic, the 14nm process was a total debacle and 10nm is a theory only thing << This
mircea_popescu: decimation from what i recall reading on teh topic, the 14nm process was a total debacle and 10nm is a theory only thing.
asciilifeform: intel surrendered to chumpification of the most abject kind, sells severely underclocked dies which temporarily 'turbo' up
decimation: sounds like they are considering ascii's iii-v chemistry for 7nm
decimation: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/intel-forges-ahead-to-10nm-will-move-away-from-silicon-at-7nm/ < seems like they are still on path for 10 nm
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The price of old RISC beasts already marches upwards
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform right. only failure can be kept from the public knowledge.
mircea_popescu: once people start having to optimize, the doocracies are dead.
asciilifeform: might expensive toy just to keep microshit alive another 2 yrs
asciilifeform: ^ if industrial collapse carries on, it will be difficult to imagine a computer of any description being constructed in 2025 other than out of 'junkyard wars' pieces