nubbins`: ^ check out the missing paragraph break, top right
nubbins`: he's got one that's a reproduction of the 1st-edition gutenberg bible
ascii_field: went to find a soft-leather-bound Bible with gold edges on the India paper, just like I had wanted and asked for, without unwelcome suggestions or anyone pretending to know better than me. It was so respectful I almost got religion, myself. '
ascii_field: Shrugged, A New Kind of Science, and then other people chimed in with suggestions for Gray's Anatomy, The Chicago Manual of Style, and the 25-year anniversary edition of Gödel, Escher, Bach, all of them arguing that if I wanted the most important book, I would want their suggestions. I scremed, "Enough!", and space just as suddenly warped back to the bookstore and the very helpful young Muslim woman behind the counter
ascii_field: ' I went to my local bookstore the other day. I wanted to give a beautifully bound Bible to a Christian friend of mine. Suddenly, I felt space around me warp and I was in USENET space. People from comp.lang.scheme offered me a beutifully bound Torah. People from comp.lang.dylan offered me a beautifully bound Koran. People from elsewhere on the Net offered me beautifully bound copies of The Lord of the Rings, Atlas
Adlai: being in the wot qualifies you for overseeing marriage in 2020 england, kind of stuff
nubbins`: seals are uh, "special" mammalia. they're cute enough that their harvesting produces outrage
nubbins`: ascii_field there's a woman in town who's been binding for years, has an ancient letterpress setup. i'd say she'd at least know where to point me for leather work
ascii_field: reference bitcoin - board & leather.
nubbins`: at which point things will come full-circle and i'll be silkscreening fabric for the covers of silkscreened books
nubbins`: hey, if it gets the job done.
ascii_field: in the sense that a typical artisan binder would probably react to my laser suggestion the same way my musical friends react to the suggestion of connecting my air compressor to the tuba
nubbins`: harkens back to the first time i rcv'd a mouser catalog
ascii_field: bookbinding is rather like music in a sense
nubbins`: their print catalog is a particular joy
ascii_field: but yes, they'll turn black
nubbins`: the edges this plough makes are as smooth as fucking /glass/.
nubbins`: mayhap. but it'd singe the pages?
ascii_field: most folks source, rather than sink, piss
nubbins`: until such point is reached that the code is worthy of bookifying
nubbins`: danielpbarron it was shelved at the time
nubbins`: 5th image shows the kind of corners a thousand-dollar book plough makes.
ascii_field: danielpbarron: linus is wrong, but very few people seem to grasp the reason why
ascii_field: but fact remains, there is no automagickal machine for it
nubbins`: heh. well, there y'go.
ascii_field: (other than with perforator and spiral binding)
ascii_field: nubbins`: i routinely use 'print on demand' houses when i feel like getting xxxx in dead tree, but the result is invariably just a little better than what i can do at home
ascii_field: but i can laser print and perforate as well as the next guy.
ascii_field: it was worth a shot. thx for the phree quote, nubbins`
felipelalli: he said they have a "learning machine" to determine the correct interest rate, but it is a joke don't let the free market decide its own rates.
nubbins`: hey, i can hand-sew, but you're not gonna like the price
nubbins`: i'd have to check the type of metal
BingoBoingo: I have the most intense hangover
felipelalli: I was trying to convince him that don't let the users choose the interest rate is not a good idea.
felipelalli: I said to BTCJam CEO: "mircea said BTCJam is not even a service" he said "who is this?" and then tried to convince me "other people disagree with him"
ascii_field: nubbins`: the whole set ?
felipelalli: nubbins`: but I would like to collect the cons arguments. I was using the service for a while and it was nice, except the reputation system. But yes, without a good reputation system, it is worthless. :/
nubbins`: asciilifeform these things look great
nubbins`: we print them something like 36-up, so you could have w/e number of designs/names/etc you wanted
nubbins`: should they be ignored? 8)
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: Where can I find objective arguments against BTCJam? As a lending service and reputation system? And what are the alternatives for P2P lending or we don't have? They have 113,000 users, should they be ignored?
nubbins`: *:ascii_field wishes he could buy the entire issue of the 'pocorgfo' in hard cover archival paper <<< judging by the second-page notes, you can
mircea_popescu: and all days until the one day, because it seems our fate :D
mircea_popescu: she derps with puppets in the foot tall "campus" ?
ascii_field recalls learning with alarm as a little boy that there was ever such a thing as a reichsmark. 'couldn't hitler simply order shit done?'
mircea_popescu: imagine your daughter fails exams, now can't go to school. so what, you make her a mini university out of cardboard, and while the other girls to go school
ascii_field: it gets to carry on derping by order of the tsar-god
mircea_popescu: this is what it is, and the most important dynamic since combustion engine.
ascii_field: then we find out that it doesn't actually need sales for anything
ascii_field: 'It will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need and the air force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber.' (some american derpmeister in the '60s)
mircea_popescu: but there's nothing anyone can do to prevent s.nsa from baking what it bakes
mircea_popescu: and some other day, usg.
mircea_popescu: and the discussion of how this works - already, for that matter - is right above : http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060676
mircea_popescu: "you and i might not care or know, but someone in the capitalist club is financing the new lightbulb"
mircea_popescu: the plan is of course to use it extensively on anyone related to usg, starting with the press, starting with idiot whores a la leah goodman and idiot venues a la newsweek
trinque: oh we're fucked; I just don't expect that the men in black are coming for me because I said I like bitcoin
ascii_field: re: starving: at any rate, starvation is also what they do to 'problematic' folks in usa instead of shooting, typically
mircea_popescu: the population simply collapses at that point. think cockroaches.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060549 << someone's not been paying attention TO ALL THE ALLCAPS DEPRAGE. TEMPEST. WHOREFEST. MUCUS. ANTIETAM. ETCISAWORD.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:35:24; ascii_field: order 'anarchist's cookbook', get on the 'harmless idiots' list
trinque: mircea_popescu: hm is this where the declining soviet population went? a different x% croaking on the street per year?
mircea_popescu: think of it in terms of particles : if muons live a second and meons an hour, and at all times 10% of particle population is muons, then what changes does a meon to turn into a muon during its lifetime ?
Adlai: then why would most people have an expectation of being homeless eventually!?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060505 << you familiar with the experience of that one guy who borrowed in 2011ish toi make a point, was still paying on it by 2013 ?
mircea_popescu: it's just what the numbers say
Adlai: though the wot isn't exactly your average "nobody over 30"
assbot: Logged on 03-03-2015 09:14:51; mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone in the wot ever actually starves.
mircea_popescu: that's cool, because nobody over 30 owns one, either.
ascii_field: it is used as the real primary taxation mechanism
mircea_popescu: just, you know, everyone thinks they're speshul. but if i were a natl bank governor i wouldn't allow the derps to borrow either.
mircea_popescu: AND this is for the great benefit of everyone else, because nobody is as poor as usians.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: speaking from the chumpatronic jail here, just about any schmuck can get at least 5 digits of loansharkamatic without breaking a sweat
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060490 << no, not for him, and not for most of the third world.
trinque: RagnarDanneskjol: ^ lemme know if you'd like the current deedbot to use that nick
ascii_field: trinque: rng in ic is a dead concept right off the bat
trinque: eh it's already deedbot lots of places, probably best with the current nick
trinque: is there some ancient processor which has an rng that works?
mircea_popescu: it is sort-of a feature, you only get to see the noobish beginnings of people newer than you.
brendafdez: I was trying to see the first messages in the chan by each user. If a user has say 50000 messages, I can't find a way to see the pages with the earliest 45000.
brendafdez: I was searching the logs and couldn't find a way to sort by date ascending. Tried setting the start parameter to a value close to the total number of results, but it won't take values greater than 5000. :( Is there a way to do it?
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 19:03:25; felipelalli: Anyone can write about this on qntra.net? They just eliminate one of the best features of BTCJam.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1060428 << i dunno that anyone ever took them seriously.
assbot: Logged on 20-03-2015 17:32:01; kakobrekla: recently got fixed and now causing trouble down the line
gribble: punkman was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 week, 3 days, 11 hours, 58 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <punkman> https://twitter.com/neweraesthetics/status/574869026817601536
trinque: if I can't get deedbot, I'll just do it with the dash
trinque: anybody know punkman's status? wanted to get the bot squared away with a proper nick, then get that autovoiced
mircea_popescu: ascii_field aite working my way there,
ascii_field: like the one in linked thread
mircea_popescu: their prey is usually someone's mom.
ascii_field: jurov: normally you can tell who are the 'basic' shills by noting their assumptions (of their marks being dumb as shit) - see, e.g., mr moarspam: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-02-2015#1014388
mircea_popescu: mp whining in 2012 that there's no rifled bullets. commenter fixing it, today : http://trilema.com/2012/o-idee-practica/#comment-113197
ascii_field: and slowly, meticulously form a picture of who gets the red carpet to the gasenwagen and when
ascii_field: the way it works, when it works, is that moles actually take the trouble to read (or even provocateur...) in the forum
ascii_field: jurov: no, this is the naive picture
jurov: btw i don't get how would such data mining work.. someone would have to collect all the information first
jurov: they'd make for shiny eulogy
trinque: chetty: maybe, years can make the inconceivable inevitable
chetty: <trinque> I'll go out on a limb and say they're not rounding up people for derping on IRC//yet
trinque: as much as that would make one the star of one's own action movie
trinque: I'll go out on a limb and say they're not rounding up people for derping on IRC
Adlai: ascii_field: lies, there is no whitelist
trinque: well, that wasn't the right keybinding
ascii_field: order 'anarchist's cookbook', get on the 'harmless idiots' list
trinque: danielpbarron: order a nodejs book and throw them off
felipelalli: danielpbarron: 1) well, you will never know. 2) don't put all your eggs in the same basket.
felipelalli: in the bank?
felipelalli: danielpbarron: but and in the first time?
ascii_field: then you don't need to borrow, just start with epsilon
gribble: The operation succeeded.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: so, you are not the target, that's why you are not worried.
felipelalli: danielpbarron: but do you think BTCJam was a crap from the start to end?
ascii_field: and therefore manipulable.
ascii_field: trinque: spoiler: recall that the XORing also happens on same cpu
felipelalli: danielpbarron: I'm sad. They killed a service that I was using for years. It isn't that good, but...
ascii_field: trinque: read the linked piece
felipelalli: The ugly true is that we have no options.
felipelalli: I know their reputation system is a crap.
felipelalli: They are getting worse, but dead just with this decision.
felipelalli: Anyone can write about this on qntra.net? They just eliminate one of the best features of BTCJam.
felipelalli: *They
gribble: Error: "They" is not a valid command.
felipelalli: &They
ascii_field has not yet read it but, the title alone, l0l
ascii_field: https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/pocorgtfo05.pdf << p. 27 mega-l0l, demonstration of RDRAND-as-hypothetical-backdoor on x86
trinque: that's how you secure your legacy right there
trinque: the guy got dissent against lamarckism outlawed?
ascii_field as an amateur scholar of crackpottery and malignant pseudoscience, owns the complete works of mr lysenko
ascii_field: that thing contains the single best 'lysenko for dummiez' i've ever seen in english
ascii_field picks self up off the floor
ascii_field: one takes the cake.'
ascii_field: 'He passed away in 2008, a paragon of sticking to just the prescribed amount of murderous blood-thirstiness at any given time, a true knight of the Party Line -- and, if there is ever a Hell, doubtlessly sticking Hell's engineers with the problem of how to reward such a sterling life achievement of toeing it ever so precisely. There are many shitty jobs in this world and the one beyond, but, believe in Hell or not, that
chetty: hahahah someone was a zork fan;You happen to see a note on the ground, a splotchy Hilbert curve napkin sketch followed by a handwritten
mike_c: dunno what? what the hell is wrong with my code??
kakobrekla: recently got fixed and now causing trouble down the line
trinque: mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-03-2015#1059635 << which is the manual ? << tried geting rid of that colon by making the bot parse all messages for commands, not just highlights, and making deedbot- the command. didn't work, seems it should. I'm going to poke tenyks' author today to find out what's smart
trinque: shall go out at the hour
trinque: sorry davout, I changed the syntax on you
pete_dushenski: if only tomorrow could be today, then cake !
PeterL: the cake is a lie
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron> this is more real than most of the stuff people say "in person" << well yeah but that's more a function of how boring most people are.
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron: of the regulars though, you're #1 !
pete_dushenski: "A bug bounty hunter, Laxman Muthiyah, discovered a critical flaw in the Facebook Photo Sync feature and Facebook API that could allow any third-party app to access your personal photos from the hidden Facebook Photo Sync album." << lel that sm.
pete_dushenski: also fixed footnote ii in that last one. i'm asleep at the wheel here.
mats: must be the cheap petrol.
mircea_popescu: "with stun guns on mounted on their heads"
pete_dushenski: i like the sound of 'murderous streak'
mircea_popescu: either that or just got bored.
mircea_popescu: dude, check it out, pete_dushenski was punished by the holy redditard empire for his murdersome streak.
pete_dushenski: seriously, reminded me of the spa lady health club scam
pete_dushenski: my jaw hit the floor.
pete_dushenski: so at the branch, they charge her $xx and then tell her that the statements can't be printed out then and there and have to go to another city for review, then they'll be shipped to the branch, then she'll have to come back and pick them up
pete_dushenski: because of course, they weren't available online
pete_dushenski: ^tis right there for ya
assbot: The straw that broke Twitter’s back. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/199pdAs )
pete_dushenski: and couldn't have been otherwise.
pete_dushenski: if one ends up here, today, wherever they're from was a successful stepping stone.
pete_dushenski: yet by the measures of most of the world, this is still 'the land of milk and honey'
pete_dushenski: by the standards of la serenissima, most everywhere is full of stupidheads derping about with delusions of self-importance
pete_dushenski: despite the crazy minimum wage and resulting cost of food, australia is perfectly enjoyable place to visit for a few weeks.
pete_dushenski: top o' the mornin' !
davout: tbh, what's the most important with camembert, is to not eat too early when it's not "made"
cazalla: anyway going to bed, but i request la serenissima bequeath me the state of Tasmania so as to use it to grow the best shit
mircea_popescu: "Why are the coins dated 2013 :/ because we designed and minted them last year, but we could assemble them last month.."
chetty: highway robbery I tell ya, spen 83 pesos at the grocery
cazalla: well not reary but i am partial to crumbed chicken fried the fuck out
cazalla: fair enough, but i fry the fuck out of everything
cazalla: the nuts are very creamy, and the oil is great for frying anything that is crumbed, like chicken
mircea_popescu: i don't recall if i ever had macadamia oil or not, either.
mircea_popescu: cazalla omfg what is this, the sin of going into places ?
cazalla: pls suck my dick costco and get the fuck out of my country with your made in china shit http://imgur.com/GgNi88n,twFcl5s,ABxl80G,BAl6CMj,xl80E2E
cazalla: my missus tries the same shit.. oh i can't remember
cazalla: and then you fkn tell me if u get this shit at costco
cazalla: and they sure as fuck are not spending good money on good food
mircea_popescu: i used your deli model in the us, and the cash & carry in ro. it all depends on the place really.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly the sort of doubt fit for an experiment.
mircea_popescu: cazalla well then you don't need it.
cazalla: got the wog deli en masse
mircea_popescu: so they carry filippo berio olive oil ?
mircea_popescu: the stuff that's usually called "colonials" ? the stuff that has to be impoirted 5000 miles away ?
cazalla: for other speciality shit, i use farmhousedirect.com.au
mircea_popescu: cazalla ok, meat comes from butcher, produce from grocer. these you don't buy at the warehouse, as there's really no need to warehouse them. but what about everything else ?
nubbins`: best meat shop in the city too
cazalla: i get my meet/veg/fruit from local who supposedly provides australian grown produce (i am not so naive to believe that some scheming fuckers didn't figure out they could import shit from china and just label it grown in australia but what can you do)
cazalla: then wtf would u buy from a place like costco?
mircea_popescu: cazalla it's improbable. generally wholesalers carry everything everyone else carries + more + they sell it cheaper + they deliver.
cazalla: nubbins`, doubt they sell what i buy
mircea_popescu: the romanian bulk supplier (metro) just wants you to have a company.
cazalla: in fact, they have a costco just a few streets away from here, not that i've been.. pay for membership? fuck that, costco drastically underestimates australian refusal to pay for membershits
cazalla: is that where you get bulk corn sizzurp? (they got costco's here now)
nubbins`: and today, stumbled across the mad hatter again
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=through+the+looking+glass | Similar to the twilight zone, where nothing is quite what it seems. In Lewis Carroll's Through the Looking Glass book, it can mean clocks that work...
nubbins`: unrelated, i *just* clued into the mad hatter's hat from TTLG
nubbins`: isn't this much less circuitous than the original discussion 8)
mircea_popescu: or in the commerce of bannanas.