ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: 'carry out the program' << yup.
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: one can claim, but there's a trilema for that :P
ben_vulpes: it's been a decent tool for hacking mud, that's about all i know.
ben_vulpes: i'm getting the gist.
ben_vulpes: riskspace is foreign code on box, exploits of running processes from outside world?
ben_vulpes: just a few years ago i was building wafer hosts - there is much i don't know about websec.
ben_vulpes: would you enumerate the risks?
ben_vulpes: hm digitalocean doesn't even bsd
ben_vulpes: related to asciilifeform's "must fit in head" problem
ben_vulpes: i guess at a high level stupid solution to stupid problems.
ben_vulpes: for instance, different versions of the python imaging library for different services.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, mats_cd03: ease of dependency management, resource isolation, cognitive overhead. i'm dumb and have to deal with crazy complex legacy shit that's most expediently put into 'containers for poor and time constrained engineers'.
ben_vulpes: <mats_cd03> too bad nobody wants to talk about how its horridly vulnerable << well enlighten my derpy ass
ben_vulpes: just cause
ben_vulpes: !up CryptOprah
ben_vulpes: how are you to fight the usg thusly?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> through which metaphore i am suggesting, of course, that coders are whores and money is a penis. << btc today, equity in thing of value mebbe tomorrow...
ben_vulpes: but -- digging nevertheless.
ben_vulpes: :P
ben_vulpes: write some tests
ben_vulpes: booting is the first edge case
ben_vulpes: thanks, thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: so i'm not a a c professional by any stretch of the mind - where do the obj/*.o files come from?
ben_vulpes: pahahahaha
ben_vulpes: mhm
ben_vulpes: that's precisely what i was banging into.
ben_vulpes: good question
ben_vulpes: but uh
ben_vulpes: aforementioned libdb4.8-dev
ben_vulpes: because that was released ca. 2013, roundabout when 0.6 came out
ben_vulpes: considering using squeezy
ben_vulpes: wheezy
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: i'm building a container with docker, and a cursory search turned up no docker base image for openbsd.
ben_vulpes: macos is its own crazy problem that I'm not about to impose on anyone.
ben_vulpes: nah, that's not what i'm doing.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: specifically, 0.6.3 from source.
ben_vulpes: hm should i be doing this on debian 6?
ben_vulpes: yup.
ben_vulpes: here's an interesting nugget
ben_vulpes: but w/e/
ben_vulpes: hardly just a receiver then.
ben_vulpes: mkay
ben_vulpes: bidirectional
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: please explain to me how you triangulate a receiver.
ben_vulpes: "This time it was encrypted but it was possible to determine the position of the transmitter and the reciever." << how would the latter part be possible?
ben_vulpes: http://www.svd.se/nyheter/inrikes/english-version-could-be-a-damaged-russian-submarine_4023511.svd
ben_vulpes: slowly heating's supposed to do the trick
ben_vulpes: starfish is worth a sight more than that
ben_vulpes: can only afford hundredth-coin buys
ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: well you see i am an utter pauper
ben_vulpes: Hi
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: thanks mats_cd03
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ ticker ]]
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[ticker]]
ben_vulpes: ;;calc 0.03 * [[;;ticker]]
ben_vulpes winces at the memory
ben_vulpes: oh the core
ben_vulpes: ya, typo.
ben_vulpes: "kistmet", etc.
ben_vulpes: i prefer ancient history
ben_vulpes: subjective
ben_vulpes: feelsgood.png
ben_vulpes: "no."
ben_vulpes: "hey you live in new york? cool! do you know this other random guy i met one time?"
ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: now why would you think that?
ben_vulpes: i asked nicely for a staging environment so that we could keep working when they do this in the future
ben_vulpes: cascaded into a whole-site-takedown
ben_vulpes: with no safety checks or timeouts or anything
ben_vulpes: client recently pushed a change to their frontend app that changed the rate at which the js called the backend
ben_vulpes: ah funny ddos story
ben_vulpes: best response to ddos is to...not notice.
ben_vulpes: and y'all complain of tib and mor.
ben_vulpes: worst part of ddos is noise in assets logs.
ben_vulpes: i know
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> anyone giving me even money on undata being a chick ? << i'll take it
ben_vulpes: i think the thing is pretty ambivalent to input media
ben_vulpes: gotta dig the clay out and make the bricks
ben_vulpes: guy's built and published the plans for a compressed-earth brick maker
ben_vulpes: no no no, wrong takeaway
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: try w js?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata not just. houses too, if you build brick walls on concrete pillars... wtf is going to burn ? << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/CEB_Press
ben_vulpes: the secret fuhrer again?
ben_vulpes: https://twitter.com/RonaldKlain/status/488885766001410048?s=09 << amusing honesty
ben_vulpes: neat stuff.
ben_vulpes: what's the background on "scientologists raped the usg in the 70s" claim?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> undata: a smart cult with an anti-govt streak would try to remain unnoticed <<< which fails to explain why the us govt is not taking better care of staying out of our way. << "smart"
ben_vulpes: being mean is the point of life.
ben_vulpes: dead $SACRED_COW
ben_vulpes: dead feminists.
ben_vulpes: if you're going for max shock, dead niggers.
ben_vulpes: not the hassling, the suiciding
ben_vulpes: you could have them making human pyramids instead
ben_vulpes: fivezerotwo: that's a waste of resources, dood
ben_vulpes: lol at your link and 'software' that's a decent joke albeit accidental
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: different link
ben_vulpes: http://m.gpo.gov/plumbook/ << this is a pretty good example of how the ussa builds software.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: that's the one.
ben_vulpes: it's just an arbitrary set of letters representing stuff...man
ben_vulpes: kek
ben_vulpes: "i can't quit you"
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: this game is impossible.
ben_vulpes: t/u/v/w, but w/e
ben_vulpes: there was a vaporware around this, right?
ben_vulpes: and its actually scrolling into a dimension you can't really percieve correctly
ben_vulpes: btc is ultimate arcade game
ben_vulpes scrambles for coins
ben_vulpes: i'd like my bw back plz
ben_vulpes: is the variety speak not an adequate filter anymore?
ben_vulpes: how can one tell how long a party'd been reading the logs?
ben_vulpes: client *commits* to *master*
ben_vulpes: seeing merge conflicts in client code makes me more comfortable with my rates
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> ben_vulpes: why do you do this to my tender mind << welcome to assets
ben_vulpes: oh guys guys i found the worst thing ever
ben_vulpes: lisp is lisp and datomic is a persistant prologish fact store with time built in
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: there's really not much similarity between js/lisp and mongo/datomic
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: lol "the alpha board"
ben_vulpes: no no, it's definitely a prayer
ben_vulpes: PUA lulzatron: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/10/14/time-for-a-false-rape-accuser-registry/
ben_vulpes: for API's we use liberator, which neatly takes all of the functions in a namespace and turns them into rest-y endpoints
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: clojure's mostly libs, less frameworks. the stack we use is http-kit for serving web apps, and datomic on postgres for data persistence.
ben_vulpes: (side note Adlai, clojurescript makes frontend almost endurable)
ben_vulpes: PE will want to see revenues tho, unless the IPO is a juggernaut and the public markets are going to get taken hard.
ben_vulpes: and contracts are structured in equity-holders benefit, and not as a raping tool for VCs.
ben_vulpes: equity is liquid far in advance of IPOs, if you have enough and know PE.
ben_vulpes: "also, i got tired of being asked what color my lamborghini was."
ben_vulpes: "well you can take your dollar down the 7-11 and buy a Keno ticket, or you can take your LIFE SAVINGS/4 of your best-performing years to the startup roulette wheel..."
ben_vulpes: potential client asked me about my startuplandia cynicism last night
ben_vulpes: equity is a gamble...
ben_vulpes: or good negotiator
ben_vulpes: lucky fuck
ben_vulpes looks around
ben_vulpes: i'm only a member of one cult of personality, and it ain't hickey's
ben_vulpes: my what now?
ben_vulpes: various API's, toy BTC tools for myself, a webapp here and there
ben_vulpes: and i clojure, for the same reason.
ben_vulpes: i think the switching costs from py/whatever -> clojure are a little lower than to the common lisp families
ben_vulpes: <******> also lisp is perfect and I have wasted 10 years
ben_vulpes: Adlai: from another chan where i've been pounding on about lisp:
ben_vulpes: haha
ben_vulpes: i suspect pythongs are going to resist a cl
ben_vulpes: any good?
ben_vulpes: mnope.
ben_vulpes: it's no cl, but it's nice.
ben_vulpes chants "clojure, clojure" quietly and repeatedly
ben_vulpes: lisping commonly?
ben_vulpes: what's the new gig, Adlai?
ben_vulpes: !b 1
ben_vulpes: thats just 'poor engineering'
ben_vulpes: hey retard isn't pc
ben_vulpes: "conserve, comrade"
ben_vulpes: california is apparently notifying water users of "wasteful status"
ben_vulpes: (which - i ain't sharing details - are pretty good)
ben_vulpes: despite my best bezzlefforts
ben_vulpes: a pauperized american lout
ben_vulpes: ah yes well i'm but an american lout
ben_vulpes: i mean its dingy as fuck but mebbe if i work really hard
ben_vulpes: my golden age is today
ben_vulpes: xdotcommer back around eh?
ben_vulpes: provided you've seen them in action i imagine
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform you've an admirable appreciation of their byzantine mindset
ben_vulpes: ofc, bureaucrats
ben_vulpes: nah libre cover
ben_vulpes: nice.
ben_vulpes: ;;google papers please
ben_vulpes: how would anyone in here know
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> USSA low on coins to short? << so drama
ben_vulpes: winter is coming
ben_vulpes: obvious distancing job is obvious
ben_vulpes: ayup
ben_vulpes: is that davout's thing?
ben_vulpes: no more penguirker either, eh
ben_vulpes: who/what
ben_vulpes: i pet who i want thickasthieves
ben_vulpes: sweaty petting
ben_vulpes: petting generally leads to fucking
ben_vulpes: like warrant transfer :P
ben_vulpes: pet the sweaty things and don't sweat the petty things?
ben_vulpes: that's why bring .bait back
ben_vulpes: b-a: srs bzns
ben_vulpes: i'm just curious yo
ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust wangxinxi
ben_vulpes: ;;ident xinxi
ben_vulpes: p. sure everyone in here does that pretty regularly for their own projects.
ben_vulpes: was he on your case for plugging your site?
ben_vulpes: lol what was going on there?
ben_vulpes: baww that's a shame
ben_vulpes: mill chatter? bed complain? hammer crack?
ben_vulpes: girl should squeal, yes
ben_vulpes: i dunno man i expect my tools to stand up to abuse
ben_vulpes: why should the bed make sounds?
ben_vulpes: *everyone loses focus*
ben_vulpes: *mid-bed leg bends slightly, overcomes static friction, jitters across floor*
ben_vulpes: and now the damn thing squeaks abominably during any vigorous motion
ben_vulpes: put it on felt pads for ease of moving and cleaning
ben_vulpes: in other news, i rigidified my bed
ben_vulpes: f(chaos) -> melody?
ben_vulpes: no wai
ben_vulpes: the notion that anyone's getting signal out of the market ticking up or down is absurd.
ben_vulpes: #btc-pricetalk, but for everything.
ben_vulpes: ##econometrics has its moments, but it's mostly people arguing about noise in the signal
ben_vulpes: just crying out for a bad drug joke
ben_vulpes: but touching colored spots (to the tongue) for an excuse to rub together
ben_vulpes: no i know
ben_vulpes: oh, acid.
ben_vulpes: humans can't handle statistics. big disaster with 0% likelihood freezes the brain in its place.
ben_vulpes: morning, fanatics.
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/15/us-lockheed-fusion-idUSKCN0I41EM20141015 << monkeys fly from my arse if this is true. << bezzletron
ben_vulpes: xinxi: extremely robust connection switchting, ideal for the laptop user.
ben_vulpes: xinxi: look into mosh as well
ben_vulpes: xinxi
ben_vulpes: idiots', no idea.
ben_vulpes: mine, ssh keys
ben_vulpes: problems?
ben_vulpes: run emacs remotely
ben_vulpes: have server
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: eh?
ben_vulpes: you're a programmer, script it
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> given the fate of usd, the small coins continue to circulate largely through inertia of neglect. << prices in my area recently went to integer dollars for things sold by the unit
ben_vulpes: make a synthetic diamond crown of carbonized benjamins
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> yeah, but also like slaves they're worth w/e they bring in. << also this one
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> but idea is, if you own them, better keep them busy. like slaves. << oh god i know this one
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: entirely unsurprised.
ben_vulpes is now gagging for time to read the logs
ben_vulpes: kick everyone's ass on quality without worrying about making money
ben_vulpes: i ain't no dissembler
ben_vulpes: nah, i got my own
ben_vulpes ponders
ben_vulpes: i envy your playground mircea_popescu
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no, they constantly dilute except for active writers. << clever
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> womenz can not be owned!!1 << the line is that humans cannot be owned, and it's only spouted by those who've not realized they're owned
ben_vulpes: factually i got a blowjob!
ben_vulpes: how are ya, berndj
ben_vulpes: that's like a third "private messages" a third "project manager" and a third bitchy babes
ben_vulpes: relatedly: why do guys derp on about PMS and not about the ovulation?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "fuck me" it is that time of the month, yes
ben_vulpes: it's a business owned woman
ben_vulpes: clearly those people don't understand business
ben_vulpes: SO MANY OPTIONS
ben_vulpes: then order
ben_vulpes: or sit in thing
ben_vulpes: middleman is getting squozed out of existince in this qntry
ben_vulpes: just order from amazon
ben_vulpes: don't buy things in meatspace
ben_vulpes: www.introducingcarrot.com