mircea_popescu: sounds like these people should run a small soviet republic in central asia.
mircea_popescu: except no girls ther ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wait, their virtual best korea has an unconvertible shit currency that nevertheless is great because you can buy whores at the local wholesale whorehouse ?
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 21:21:14; ascii_field: punkman: for the wallet-less version, would be logical. (how can mine without wallet ?)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ... have the paycoins reached whatever yet ? << Apparently only for a select few who have beta-invites to an "independent online market" where they can buy goods in the thing. Totally not just a last hail mary to get anyone consider offering the slightest bit of buying support.
mircea_popescu: kinda why "multisig" stuff isn't taking off, in spite of all the power ranger effort dedicated at pushing that particular mudball uphill.
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2015#1075117 << the problem with automated escrow is that well... it doesn't actually work too well as a principle. you need a human in the loop, basically.
trinque: the PogoPlug is meant to share files on a cloud or something << ehhehehe
jurov: it's the same incident
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2015#1075089 << i've never used anything in the 7 branch or later. nor do i intend to ever do.
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 20:39:24; mod6: <+funkenstein_> anybody sync a 0.5.3.1 node yet? << i have a lot of times, probably at least 15 times since october. but... not a pogo. just the R.I. on a linux install.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you know they fucked ben affleck.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: YOU WON'T GET ME TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THEM
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 20:18:47; nubbins`: i suppose i can just download the regular one and squash as i go
trinque: otherwise reboot it
trinque: might be good in the docs to say "make sure light's green, idiot"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes kinda why we don't want the states to survive, innit.
trinque: danielpbarron: in messing with cables, my router came up after the pogo
mircea_popescu: who the fuck explains their income ? they think they got a case, let them make the fucking case.
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 19:45:12; nubbins`: "the government definitely won't be curious about $40m in unexplained income"
trinque: I'll see what the software rev is on th inside
trinque: hm, well hardware rev's in the logs
mircea_popescu: the bitcoin foundation releases.
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 19:21:45; BingoBoingo: More lulz http://gawminers.eu redirects to the "independent" coinstand market pumping their scamcoin
mircea_popescu: http://log1.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-03-2015#1075019 << have the paycoins reached whatever yet ?
trinque: I'll check the hardware rev
trinque: it's the pink logo one
mircea_popescu: Chillum it may be the latest verion on a meanwhile abandoned bitcoin fork pushed by very dubious characters.
trinque: only ports 80 and 3333 are open on the thing
Chillum: is that not the latest version?
ben_vulpes: Chillum: why are you bothering with 0.10.0?
trinque: nah the pogo
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun see problem with wallet snip either.
trinque: I should've ordered the usb->serial guy too
mircea_popescu: better than turning them into congresswhomen
trinque: danielpbarron: got a link to the pogo instructions?
Chillum: damn compiling bitcoind on the pi2 takes hours
BingoBoingo: Maybe the CIA got her to prevent Qntra influence in Latin America
cazalla: maybe i'm too quick to pull the trigger on that one, but we'll see
gribble: brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 23 hours, 24 minutes, and 1 second ago: <brendafdez> mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
cazalla: but now that es.qntra.net was put together for her, she's absent
funkenstein_: has anyone tried btcd the go node?
ascii_field: danielpbarron: aside from the nondeterminism and potential for random db corruption, the bastards thing makes it entirely impossible to use the otherwise perfectly adequate 32M machines
funkenstein_: *but we aren't ready for them yet?
ascii_field: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-January/000038.html << reading material
ben_vulpes: (if i read the cee pee pee correctly)
ben_vulpes: they build up in memory, leading to OOM kills.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: pogo's in the mail.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: getting them running... << have you tried 'turdel' demo ?
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: if you or anyone else has spare time - i recommend taking a look at the bastard blocks thing
ben_vulpes: pogo's not my baby by any stretch of the imagination, but doing anything but getting them running seems like unnecessary yak shaving.
ben_vulpes: bitcoin in the swear jar, funkenstein_
ben_vulpes: is that the headers-only thing?
ben_vulpes: the latter i don't care too much about.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: that, and remove the 'attractive nuisance'
mike_c: thing is, one could clone the code, rip out most of the stuff that wasn't the wallet, and voila, new binary that is a wallet.
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=03-03-2015#1039405 << there's the one, 777 boeing hax keywords yay
mike_c: (and double the test matrix)
ben_vulpes: mike_c: what i mean to say is that the reference implementation only bears the wallet by virtue of there being no other thing that serves as a wallet.
mike_c: the separate RI wallet binary could talk to RI bitcoind to send btc
Chillum: I am about to see if a Raspberry Pi 2 can run a full node. The Pi 1 starts to crap out around mid 2014
ben_vulpes: on one hand yeah - what is a wallet doing in there?
ben_vulpes: but as asciilifeform's said before, the RI has to parachute into mars, bitcoinating
ben_vulpes: <mike_c> short-term (i.e. pogo) solution is to run bitcoind with the config switch. in the near future the foundation will remove the wallet << oh we will?
ben_vulpes: <funkenstein_> the trouble with a reference implemention is https://xkcd.com/927/ << no, this is a consensus project.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: someone did suggest a good reason why not - the chore of maintaining two branches
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: who wants to consider tossing the wallet code from pogo variant of 0.5.3 ? it's dead weight << don't see why not
trinque: ascii_field: got any search terms which will conjure that link from the logs?
ascii_field: trinque: how well they work, and when they are used, and who orders it - i do not know.
trinque: ascii_field: saw the link re: boeing I think it was
ascii_field: i, for example, only need to cycle power to the 'pogo' to test a newly-built turdel.
ascii_field: anyone who is planning to screw with the kernel, -must- have tftp set up
ascii_field: but no devices appear for them
ascii_field: that is, i have the marvell config flags set
nubbins`: i'll take a peek at the light and button stuff, seems straight-forward
ascii_field: did cut a bunch of irrelevant crud from the kernel (keyboards, mice, sound cards, etc)
ascii_field: so that i can, perhaps, escape the chore of figuring out why sata refuses to init
ascii_field: i want folks building their own pogo runtimes soon.
ascii_field: nubbins`: it's a mega-turd. not just one config, but four, and they have to be packaged in a certain way
Adlai: ascii_field: mining only needs an output script for the coinbase
mike_c: short-term (i.e. pogo) solution is to run bitcoind with the config switch. in the near future the foundation will remove the wallet and miner and then it will be smaller around the same time we want to fit it on a 8m device.
nubbins`: make wallet=off the default while we decide when to trim
ascii_field: punkman: for the wallet-less version, would be logical. (how can mine without wallet ?)
nubbins`: suppose instead of -disablewallet, flip the bit and make it -enablewallet?
ascii_field: but i will leave this for the folks whose project it actually is, to decide
mike_c: yeah, fine, but that's different from starting a pogo branch. if it gets cut from master branch, problem solved (if there is a problem?)
ascii_field: mike_c: the buildroot i have is theoretically retargetable to multiple cpu archs and boards with minimal effort
mike_c: does the -disablewallet config switch exist in this version? that would be easier way to prevent children from playing with matches
BingoBoingo: Nah, the powersaw is safer and people tend to learn from that
ascii_field: the jurist term is 'attractive nuisance' iirc.
ascii_field: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: who wants to consider tossing the wallet code from pogo variant of 0.5.3 ? it's dead weight
funkenstein_: i'm not going to run it there anyway, it was just for test
funkenstein_: but likely the issue is my build environment
mod6: so it turns out that debian didn't need the -nodnsseed flag, but gentoo did just like you ran into with ubuntu, i wanna make a comment on that in the address perhaps.
mod6: nubbins`: np. i think it's just good to get it in the list for now. later we can take it, massage whatever is needed and get it into a proper patch and test it.
mod6: shows send/recieve on the 64 bit static binary
nubbins`: i should also prolly resend that email with a subject so it doesn't get lost. right now it shows up as a reply to some other no-subject post
mod6: i was thinking about including some of that info in the monthly address.
mod6: <+funkenstein_> anybody sync a 0.5.3.1 node yet? << i have a lot of times, probably at least 15 times since october. but... not a pogo. just the R.I. on a linux install.
funkenstein_: there is no "getpeerinfo"
nubbins`: danielpbarron is in the 300k range on one of his
nubbins`: didja get the purple or blue
trinque: got the cheapest shipping too
nubbins`: i suppose i can just download the regular one and squash as i go
trinque: ascii_field: holy shit the video
nubbins`: "the government definitely won't be curious about $40m in unexplained income"
nubbins`: <+danielpbarron> what is it with these exit scammers trying to cash out in FIAT? <<< right?
trinque: https://github.com/kyleterry/tenyks-contrib/blob/master/src/tenyksfeeds/main.py << there someone rewrite scoopbot in an afternoon
trinque: would be trivial to crap one together
trinque: +cazalla | thestringpuller, has scoop bot ever done his job? :P << tenyks has an rss thing I think
BingoBoingo: More lulz http://gawminers.eu redirects to the "independent" coinstand market pumping their scamcoin
mats: another amateur pwned
cazalla: thestringpuller, has scoop bot ever done his job? :P
Adlai: sure, thanks, but the links should be there for people who want to check sources. i can email you a link with explicit links
Adlai: BingoBoingo: oh also, the link to gwern's pgp info didn't get through
ascii_field: http://buildroot.uclibc.org/downloads/manual/manual.html << therealbitcoin folks - study it
Adlai: how about i just attach the document so gmail doesn't fuck with it
BingoBoingo: Adlai: Can you email it and let the text wrap like god intended pls
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: I just used the rest of the space in the up message to ping Adlai, because
mike_c: right after the second word.
BingoBoingo: third word in the piece
Adlai: BingoBoingo: actually please delete "Czech" from the sentence where it appears five bazillion times, once is probably enough
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: say you had 1M usd. fell down from sky. you could blow 30k in ohio, and live like a pauper on the meagre sub-inflation interest off the rest in american bank. or blow 150k in ar and invest in collapsatron and live like cultured man ? possibly
ascii_field: the 150k might be a deal
mircea_popescu: i'm mildly suprised there's not five million .ar mpexes etc, they seem exactly the right idiots to make glbse shitcascades.
ascii_field: y'know, letting idiots set own house on fire is the best arson
mircea_popescu: for one thing, you can blame the us for anything you wish, but the argentine disaster is 100% argentine made.
ascii_field: i mean, this is sorta their planetary business model
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: ar collapse << and the americans won't buy it up at firesale like every other turd world collapsatron?
mircea_popescu: if messi weren't there, you'd have 11 forwards in the team. yes goalkeeper included. what goalkeeping ?!
mircea_popescu: the only reason they even like messi in the first place is a sort of schelling effect : if they all agree he's the forward, it's ok for all the other 10 players not to be the forward.
mircea_popescu: but as an amusing bit of color : presidential elections six months away. eight people are candidates - none of them has a running mate.
mircea_popescu: but i tell you, i doubt there was ever a country that so effectually turned innocent goodwill into entrenched aversion.
mircea_popescu: only reason i'm even putting up with the idiocy, i really wish to see this collapse.
mircea_popescu: anyway, something tells me i'ma have a load of fun this year an' the next.
mike_c: hehe. there you go nubbins`, that's how you do an analogy
mircea_popescu: it's like living in california once all the americans died out and were replaced with spanish speaking italian gypsies.
mike_c: apparently everyone else in south america already knew this about them :)
mike_c: "how do you make money off an argentine? you buy them for what they're worth and sell them for what they think they're worth"
mircea_popescu: after all, argentina is the african country with highest self-respect per capita.
mircea_popescu: somehow tho i imagine anything sane, like begging while crawling naked in the street is right out
mircea_popescu: i ownder what they'll actually do once the government stops paying salaries outright.
mircea_popescu: because in a country that's essentially living off fumes, the smartest thing to do is ask for more money from the government.
nubbins`: hm buildroot wants ncurses-devel which for the life of me i can't find
nubbins`: Linuxbrew is a fork of Homebrew, the Mac OS package manager, for Linux.
ben_vulpes: nono, they come pre-compromised.
ben_vulpes: the notion that an email coming from a gmail server that doesn't bear my signature is actually from me is downright hilarious.
mircea_popescu: funny how "i can't cook" means you suck at it, whereas "i can't have sex" means someone's not lettin' you. clearly, i say CLEARLY everyone's great at sex, the impediments can only be evil external stuff.
mircea_popescu: "mom can I use the kitchen ?" "gtfo you're not having sex in my kitchen"
nubbins`: don't you mean "remember to ask mom if you can use the kitchen"?
nubbins`: "Remember to put all of the packaging in a separate garbage bag, and then dispose of that bag long before she arrives at your place."
mircea_popescu: then adults derp all over teens for various "Safety consideration".)
nubbins`: another guy suggests buying a frozen lasagna and a casserole dish, and faking it
mircea_popescu: (if you don't believe me, ask a teenager for a summary of what the boy said on their date. prepare to be amazed - she has nfi.
mircea_popescu: they're just excited your lips are moving.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` in my experience, girls, and especially at the age apparent here, couldn't give less of a shit what oyu're saying
nubbins`: one of the suggestions was "tell her you don't mix business with pleasure" and order take-out
assbot: What's the Most Impressive Dish even an Idiot Can Cook for a Girl He Lied To About Being a Chef? : AskReddit ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxlRET )
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/30hdao/whats_the_most_impressive_dish_even_an_idiot_can/
mircea_popescu: haha tomorrow is another day!
mircea_popescu: but they're very tasty and even age well
nubbins`: i've prolly walked on them :D
mircea_popescu: little dark looking shits, you wouldn't think asnythingof them
nubbins`: but that's not to say they don't grow here!
mircea_popescu: dja get the black chanterelle in canada ?
nubbins`: there's maybe two species of mushrooms that i'd feel safe picking outdoors and eating
mircea_popescu: it's really the world's most tolerant dish, and it seems so damned fancy.
nubbins`: you know i don't marinate with either?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> needs the leading space << This is what editors are for
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you want them thin slices.
mircea_popescu: needs the leading space
nubbins`: then whole works in oven
nubbins`: mircea_popescu once the searing is done, i rough-chop an onion and throw that in the cast iron w/ whole baby bella mushrooms
nubbins`: haha man these fat fucks moved in a couple houses down. Domino's pizza delivered to the house every day at noon for the past 10 days.
BingoBoingo: Adlai: footnotes inline surrounded by double paren, html format links, bold, other emphasis, mark your blockquotes somehow
nubbins`: TBF i just use a meat thermometer :P
mircea_popescu: then it literally does not matter.
nubbins`: so i think they just don't give a fuck if it's done or not
Adlai: BingoBoingo: what's the preferred way to encode qntra articles?
nubbins`: tbf a gremlin is screaming at them to hurry up
nubbins`: it looks like the ball is removable. i'd get a larger ball, swap it out, THEN put the hook back where i found it.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you can't undercook the meat without undercooking the dough is the beauty of it
nubbins`: mircea_popescu are you a meat-thermometer type of guy or an "i think it's done now" type of guy
mircea_popescu: share the sister.
mircea_popescu: obviously you can trim that. but odds are the girl never had it anyway, so she won't know.
felipelalli: The irony: soon after I published my article in the Brazilian community: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=m6BTX292
mircea_popescu: it's certainly what i use to show girls they can be chefs too!
felipelalli: well, I used in the past*
felipelalli: the ugly truth!
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: thank you so much, but I don't need in this moment, and I hope not need soon, or never. Also, the private keys of my btcs isn't so easy to access right now. But if I need it one day for (an investment in my company maybe?), the first place I'll try is here. But I won't, don't worry. I think my loans on btcjam was another excitement test than real need. I thoroughly enjoyed your offer, very grateful for that.
nubbins`: http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/stories/2008-05-22/how-japan-helped-ease-the-rice-crisisbusinessweek-business-news-stock-market-and-financial-advice
assbot: What's the Most Impressive Dish even an Idiot Can Cook for a Girl He Lied To About Being a Chef? : AskReddit ... ( http://bit.ly/19pLslL )
nubbins`: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/30hdao/whats_the_most_impressive_dish_even_an_idiot_can/
gribble: brendafdez was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 17 hours, 54 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <brendafdez> mircea_popescu it works now. Anyway the IP I'm on now is one of a public AP, it shouldnt be whitelisted. I'll later give you my home IP, and BingoBoingo has my VPS IP already. I didn't know you were filtering.
mircea_popescu: felipelalli go sign "Hello this is not dog" with the address in question.
felipelalli: Have you guys read the article?
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ ships have to interact with the sea. big shits however, mostly interact with people's heads.
felipelalli: felipelalli tell you what, if you can prove ownership of a btc address, you can have 1% of whatever's in there as a loan, for short intervals, interest free. how about that. << mircea_popescu it would be perfect.
mircea_popescu: well so then. once bitcoin is commonly used as reference, there's no change for people not to like
mircea_popescu: by then, not much room for value to change TO
Chillum: people won't like the changing value though
Chillum: the restaurants could act as places to buy/sell foodcoin(bitcoin)