mircea_popescu: is this the thing that dropped japanese glass beads ?
asciilifeform: Chillum: if you're not familiar with the fusen bakudan - it was a very elegant & clever design which exploited facts about high-atmosphere air currents
Adlai: mircea_popescu: sorry but you're not relevant here; you learn people their work, not machines
Chillum: not state of the art. Lighter than air craft are getting very advanced
asciilifeform: for those who insist on balloons, at least study the state of the art: http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/41791.html/fusen-bakudan-balloon-bomb
Chillum: they go to an altitude above aircraft, when they start dropping the self destruct to avoid the airspace
Adlai: (for 19th century vernacular values of the transitive 'learn')
Adlai: #b-a poll: who has found machine learning worth learning, as a human who learns machines their work
Chillum: insecurity in routers is a real problem. Most homes have a router that can be hacked by anyone who connects over wifi. From there they can packet sniff
Chillum: I want to hack the OS that is on it now
Chillum: I found references to a uart in the firmware
Chillum: On another topic I am trying to hack my router(without looking up how to, figuring it out is the fun part)
decimation: Chillum: yes the popular tool is the rtl 2832 chip on a usb connected to software that decodes mode-s transponder emissions
Chillum: it is not that hard to setup a software defined radio to track the transponders of aircraft nearby
decimation: there's folks who make a hobby of locating radiosondes
Chillum: there are plenty of weather balloons out there. They don't follow flight plans. A large balloon would not be too out of place
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> Chillum it's not better per se, just the variety of assholes is greater. << this is prob more accurate
asciilifeform: ^ no longer fits the 'not distinguishable from actual bird except at visual contact range' bill, does it.
mircea_popescu: the newer polymers hold a lot of promise for strength etc
jurov: can't find the link
jurov: mircea_popescu: iirc there is medusa-like contraption that was considered most efficient way to keep heavier tha air machine afloat
Chillum: (not the real Mars though)
Chillum: or in the fictional Mars/Barsoom
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if you could make the waveguide very flat and tiny
mircea_popescu: a plastic bag never reaches the bottom, it is ground into mush before.
Chillum: keep in mind that in addition to radar they are looking for signal emissions
gribble: Ionocraft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionocraft>; LIfter/Ion Craft, Biefeld Brown Effect, Part 4 - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcgz7nKkqbI>; How Ion Propulsion, Lifters and Ionocrafts Work - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01F8V5IhB5k>
Chillum: just get some radar, go into the desert and figure out what can hold hydrogen but does not absorb or reflect radar
asciilifeform: there is one quite like it hanging in a museum here.
Chillum: I suppose if you made an aluminum skin like the hindinburg
asciilifeform: Chillum: the most effectual lift gas, H2, is about 1g/litre
Chillum: if you want to stay in the air a long time go for a lighter than air drone
asciilifeform: but not a 'boeing' either
Chillum: diversity is the key to assholery
mircea_popescu: Chillum it's not better per se, just the variety of assholes is greater.
mircea_popescu: what flies 100km/hr ? either 16 or 600.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: pigeons: let's scratch the arithmetic itch. approx. 8400 km from me to b-a. a LiMnO2 (non-rechargeable) battery yields approx. 400 Wh/kg.
Chillum: oh ya, meeting of the minds
Chillum: nubbins` said the converstation was better here
asciilifeform: agent is the fella who recruits assets.
Adlai: like the young master s
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall the thread where i posited that being a kiddie diddler is a prime grade qualification for becoming a usg stooge (on account of having a ready jail string to be pulled by) ?
assbot: Yes, Jimmy Wales, There Is a Right To Be Forgotten | PandoDaily ... ( http://bit.ly/1GxX57w )
mircea_popescu: http://pando.com/2014/06/09/yes-jimmy-wales-there-is-a-right-to-be-forgotten/ << pando throwing a shitfit. "how dares anyone say i am what my history rather than my narrative!11"
decimation: Chillum: that's now how the wiretap law is worded
decimation: or more precisely, the state to charge you
decimation: asciilifeform: they already have many such bans
mircea_popescu: also, by the time things are in that rut, cheaper to bribe agents than to fight the tech war.
mircea_popescu: notgonna bother proving.
asciilifeform: let'em pass bans against 'recording servant of the king'
asciilifeform: but putting the idea out.
mircea_popescu: specifically, when one is looking to get laid, the correct strategy is to keep looking until one runs into a similarly minded bit of tail
asciilifeform: purpose is as much to drive the enemy mad faster, as to preserve any cargo
asciilifeform: the headsoff youtube
mircea_popescu: on what youtube dood. their youtube ?
mircea_popescu: they'll find a way to crack your steel drum open with dinosaur bones.
mircea_popescu: even if you're visiting the stone age from 2500 ad.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: again with your habituation to the atomic dirigible
mircea_popescu: this case where you care and make the package enforce your law against the natives is nonsense.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i posit your 2) is rank nonsense. you can either not care what happens to the package, or own the infrastructure.
asciilifeform: let them begin to audit eagles.
asciilifeform: jurov: you'd be surprised at the minimal radar cross section necessary to get anyone's attention
asciilifeform: (i discussed several possible designs in past threads. basic principle is that a private key is destroyed upon the first sign of handling, and a secondary spare key signs every subsequent frame of recording. frames prior to this can be believed with some confidence if device arrives)
asciilifeform: in the end, products like this will have to ship either 1) by charter courier and/or 2) with tamper-sensitive omnidirectional video/audio/gps/inertial nav recorder
asciilifeform: <Chillum> ... Can they be hooked to a serial port? << if you are thinking of the rng discussed in last week's thread (a component of cardano, not yet released machine) it is an analogue device with a ttl schmidt trigger out
mircea_popescu: he... makes them.
Chillum: asciilifeform: You have experience with those Cardanos? How do they output? Can they be hooked to a serial port?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ancientstuff, before coming up with his current chumpatron he was doing the sort of thing bitpay guy is trying to bury
gribble: wn: chauvinist n 1: a person with a prejudiced belief in the superiority of his or her own kind 2: an extreme bellicose nationalist [syn: {chauvinist}, {jingoist}, {jingo}, {flag-waver}, {hundred-percenter}, {patrioteer}]
Chillum: did he go to the wrong summer camp?
decimation: if the sv crowd is making a distinction it's news to me
mircea_popescu: decimation i thought racis is when you beat up black dudes and chauvinist is when you beat up gay dudes. did they meanwhile merge to the shorter easier to pronounce one ?
decimation: it's hilarious that a law that essentially says "congress shall make no law concerning religion" is the epitome of racisis
Chillum: asciilifeform: It is just hundreds of copies of the block chain
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the general home use of "large ssd" is mostly that, drop some pirated films on it, watch them never.
asciilifeform: don't believe the lies of 'never dies.'
decimation: damn I can feel the hate that drips from that text
decimation: and (2) is the least restrictive means of furthering that compelling governmental interest."
decimation: "Sec. 8. (a) Except as provided in subsection (b), a governmental entity may not substantially burden a person's exercise of religion, even if the burden results from a rule of general applicability. (b) A governmental entity may substantially burden a person's exercise of religion only if the governmental entity demonstrates that application of the burden to the person: (1) is in furtherance of a compelling governmental interest;
mircea_popescu: apparently these oh-so-edumancated kids forgot how to cite laws.
mircea_popescu: decimation "an indiana law that could" is apparently the politburo approved reference.
nubbins`: cazalla call the customs agents "notorious" if you can, they seized an ounce of salvia off me once
asciilifeform: then fully automatic
asciilifeform: then tftp the turdel blob over << not the correct way to use tftp. you leave the demon going, pointed at your build image
mircea_popescu: there is precedenstalingrad!
mircea_popescu: decimation hopefully they rename it to obamana
decimation: "An Indiana law that could make it easier for religious conservatives to refuse service to gay couples touched off storms of protest on Friday from the worlds of arts, business and college athletics and opened an emotional new debate in the emerging campaign for president."
mircea_popescu: other than being named badly, like that baseball team or w/e.
decimation: as if any of these fuckheads would voluntarily step foot in a non-maritime state
mircea_popescu: so im guessing they de-op indiana now ?
mircea_popescu: "This type of combativeness and unseemly behavior is nothing new from Bedford. I suggest a request for user conduct be filed. I am also declining to post this from my account: I am a person of color who edits under my real name, lives close to Bedford and fears harassment or violence. I do not enjoy playing this card, but I grew up in the South and have good reason to fear Confederates and their ilk. 202.155.167.221 (t
mircea_popescu: oh, and, from the previous source,
decimation: ideally Indiana will hold the line and become silicon valley free
decimation: "Jeremy Stoppelman, the founder of Yelp, which publishes online reviews of businesses, issued a warning to states like Indiana that “it is unconscionable to imagine that Yelp would create, maintain, or expand a significant business presence in any state that encouraged discrimination.”"
decimation: "Marc Benioff, the chief executive of Salesforce.com, a technology company with a major presence in Indiana, announced that he would cancel all company events in the state."
mircea_popescu: somehow factual unpleasantness does not belong in the soi dissant encyclopedia.
decimation: "say what the fuck we want you to say when we want you to say it"
mircea_popescu: *I have desysopped him. This is not even a close call. He's so far over the line of the conduct - both onsite and offsite - that I expect from admins that nothing short of a full and complete apology for his behavior and a retraction of his comments will do. Additionally, he will have to stand for re-election if he dares. As for me, I would never vote for someone with this kind of behavior in his history."
mircea_popescu: "Bedford, if you really wrote that, I ask you to resign your adminship. I have no opinion right now if such a request is legitimate based on policy, or precedent. I only know you've lost my faith in your ability to act in a reasonable and impartial manner. And if you didn't write it, you need to find out who is impersonating you on myspace, because they're making you look really, really, really bad."
mircea_popescu: i have nfi what this is, except iirc godaddy had a candice michelle doing some random sluttery in their bangbros inspired style.
mircea_popescu: one of the items in there was at some point that after [[Melina Perez|Melina]] ''(pictured)'' stripped [[Torrie Wilson]] in a bra & panties match at '''[[The Great American Bash (2005)]]''', referee [[Candice Michelle]] stripped Melina and herself as well?
mircea_popescu: very vaguely lulzi wikipedia drama : apparently they have some sort of "did you know that..." advertising shtick.
trinque: probably makes more sense after you map the whimsy to useful symbols
trinque: written with the rubyfuck whimsy that prioritizes cute names over clarity
decimation: although I would say that the folks at macports do a pretty good job of porting sane unix to osx
decimation: it's true, because you are on bsd but you never know what is behind the bulkhead
mircea_popescu: the clown cars still cracks me up
decimation: one of the reasons why I won quote-of-the-year last year :) http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=304
mircea_popescu: decimation dude why the hate, they were just taking from those hacker kids and giving back to the business community!
nubbins`: well, y'know. they also don't advertise that it comes with tftp
decimation: none of which was prominently displayed on their marketing or specs
nubbins`: decimation +1. they used fbsd firewall before that
mircea_popescu: you know there's going to be children named turdel because of you people.
decimation: aye, pfsense is the distro right?
decimation: pfsense, yes, another apple thing shamelessly ripped by apple
mircea_popescu ignores evidence, eats the points.
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> he's from apple. wut firewall ? <<< o.O the same firewall that obsd uses, smarty
jurov: 300 then. better yet.
mircea_popescu: must have been there since 2012ish
mircea_popescu: strikes me as exactly the sort of apple-esque innovationitivity.
mircea_popescu: i am fucking shocked they've not yet made square section cables
mircea_popescu: because their primary market was w/e, rabbits or something.
trinque misses the reference
trinque: mircea_popescu: they've got a nice pretend one with a fence icon, I'm sure
decimation: nobodies can camp all day on an article and 'win' if they revert/revise quickly enough
decimation: wikipedia is the ultimate do-achracy
mircea_popescu: impossible to stop. anything anyone wants to talk about is themselves.
Chillum: we discourage people from writing about themselves
mircea_popescu: Chillum mind that what i said was, "in the article whisper made on wikipedia to advertise itself, which is what wikipedia is principally used for, they depict themselves as so and so, because that's what they perceive is aspiration-able"
mircea_popescu: but : the thinking here is that google putting wikipedia at top of search results is neither algorithmic nor coincidental.
Chillum: as a wikipedia admin I agree there is a lot of spam, though that is not the reason for its existence
mircea_popescu: Chillum point me to the spammer and I will block them! << the whole thing exists principally as an advertising venue for a certain set of nonsense.
decimation: http://www.computerworld.com/article/2902310/toshiba-announces-industrys-densest-3d-flash-memory.html < " With the 3D NAND chips, which started shipping Thursday, solid-state drives (SSDs) with more than 10TB of storage are just around the corner, according to Brian Shirley, vice president of memory and technology solutions at Micron. "
nubbins`: if you manage to telnet into the turdel, pastebin some shit to prove it :D
nubbins`: then Pogov4> tftp 0x800000 turdel_with_telnet
nubbins`: you'll see the 10-second countdown, hit enter
trinque: that's what I was wondering, whether I'd be blind during boot
nubbins`: start with the fw_setenv bits down bottom
nubbins`: so you interrupt the boot sequence w/ nc
trinque: or are you just waiting for it to come up, then telnet-ing in?
trinque: what are you guys using to watch it boot if not netconsole or the usb serial thing?
decimation: re: us 'college' http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/bernie-sanders-2016-loan-fraud/2015/03/27/id/634817/ < " The wife of Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, a self-described socialist who is aligned with the Democrat Party, may have committed loan fraud and almost drove a small college into financial ruin, according to a report."
assbot: Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1EK4Lin )
nubbins`: well, you got through the qnology post, right?
trinque: I figure otherwise if it gets stuck somewhere my best feedback is going to be "eh well, didn't go?"
trinque: I'll wait on that then, until my usb serial thing comes
trinque: for the blockchain
trinque: pogo's not a bad little device, surely not for the price
thestringpuller: Sucking the USG dick.
thestringpuller: These kids get addicted to their crack-money, and then depend on it. Next thing you know you're coinbase or reddit begging for 500mn.
thestringpuller: VC's are like the new crack dealers.
mircea_popescu: "but maybe you deliberately are claiming this because you think it's the criteria ?"
mircea_popescu: Whisper has become popular on college campuses,[7] with usership at several large universities throughout the United States, including Pennsylvania State University, Arizona State University, University of Florida, Ohio State University, and University of Texas at Austin.
mircea_popescu: in any case, gotta admire how narrowly the chumpatron works.
asciilifeform: where does the 'right ceo' live, l0l
asciilifeform: the pliant muppets - fat, fatter.
asciilifeform: the honest men - now starve.
mircea_popescu: but then they figured out that when it comes to newspaper content, they got no alternative
asciilifeform: 'The fallout from The Guardian investigation, which started while the newspaper was exploring an editorial partnership with Whisper, was hugely disruptive for the California startup, drawing the scrutiny of the U.S. Senate and leading CEO Michael Heyward to suspend parts of its editorial team.'
assbot: The Guardian issues clarification on Whisper privacy scandal that wasn't such a scandal after all ... ( http://bit.ly/1G0IRLT )
mircea_popescu: im not sure we're all homo enough to live on the same submarine
asciilifeform: more to the point, 'yellow submarine'
asciilifeform: saves much headache if you want to turn the knobs again from serial console because b0rk3d boot media
asciilifeform: if screwing with uboot, leave at least 1sec in the boot delay timer
nubbins`: right now my pogo will try tftp, then boot debian from sd card, or original pogo if none present
nubbins`: trinque +1, that's the guide i've been following
assbot: Qui's techNOLOGY Blog: Hacking the Pogoplug v4 (Series 4 and Mobile) with Linux (Debian or Arch) ... ( http://bit.ly/1G0HHA2 )
trinque: yeah supposedly I still have their magic cloud distro on here
nubbins`: if you follow vanilla "hack the pogo" instructions, you can keep the original setup in the loop too
trinque: asciilifeform: I'll keep the debian around and add this as a boot entry
nubbins`: which the government received, processed each year
asciilifeform: i didn't build mtd utils in there
trinque: and then add a uboot entry for it?
trinque: asciilifeform: put debian on the sd card in a partition, I assume I can flash the nand from there?
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo wait, their virtual best korea has an unconvertible shit currency that nevertheless is great because you can buy whores at the local wholesale whorehouse ? except no girls ther ? << ;;google itchy & scratchy bucks
asciilifeform: and i'll add that the real 'explaining' happens after they take your money, all at once
nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> mircea_popescu: YOU WON'T GET ME TO SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THEM <<< a node's a node, smarty-pantses!
nubbins`: <+mircea_popescu> who the fuck explains their income ? they think they got a case, let them make the fucking case. <<< emery famously listed "marijuana seed dealer" on his income tax returns for years. ended up remitting ~$2mn in total
asciilifeform: as for the fucksaw, it was, iirc, made from a genuine reciprocating saw!
mircea_popescu: because he correctly identifies the "transsexual" delusion as malignant narcissism ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: bailey is infamous for an epic grudgewank centered around his book, 'the man who would be queen'
mircea_popescu: John Michael Bailey, the psychology professor who leads the class in question, declined to comment to the Daily Northwestern "due to class preparations that he said last until Friday." He then hastily grabbed his fucksaw, retreated to his lair, and locked the door."
mircea_popescu: The optional presentation last Monday, attended by about 120 students, featured a naked non-student woman being repeatedly sexually stimulated to the point of orgasm by the sex toy, referred to as a "fucksaw." The device is essentially a motorized phallus.
mircea_popescu: "Northwestern University simply cannot stop being awesome. From getting drunk and hollering about blowjobs to throwing blackface Halloween parties to producing a little rapper by the name of Chet Haze, Northwestern University never does anything less than the most awesome thing to do in any given situation. That's why regular schools have "Human Sexuality" classes, but Northwestern University has HOT LIVE FUCKSAW demon
asciilifeform: not mircea_popescuing gymnasium by any measure, but considerably less lame than the off the shelf fare
asciilifeform: last 4 years was in a kind of quasi-public one where you get in by exam (these still exist)
mircea_popescu: you actually went to school there ?
mircea_popescu: (this to note that the given link is merely a perspective, and not divine truth. the treatment of fouquet is particularly ignorant, for instance - while the man was rich it is not clear he stole anything, and his disgrace has nothing to do with the minister and everything to do with the king, who visited once and was displeased at the luxurious manner in which he was received.)
asciilifeform: (amerikan school! palmer & colton was the quick'n'dirty book, plus period sources)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... westphalia likbez << even where i went to school it was taught, as a foundational gadget of the (pre-ww1) civilized world...
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> who the fuck explains their income ? <ben_vulpes> in the states, if they think they have a case they freeze your assets. << aha. sit on the stake until explained, yes.
asciilifeform: <danielpbarron> i have yet to encounter a stock pogo that that url didn't work on << afaik the backdoor works on all released pogov4
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform so what's so wrong with prostitution ? << the lulzy part was the bureaucrat, not whoring in the abstract
mircea_popescu: who thought the all-russia thing is original ? no such thing as originality. the new czars wanted to be better caesars than the previous czars is all.)
mircea_popescu: (but alf may appreciate article I : "A Christian general and permanent peace, and true and honest friendship, must rule between the Holy Imperial Majesty and the Holy All-Christian Majesty"
mircea_popescu: doubt he's worth the attention.
mircea_popescu: "so what if it's been in the code since westphalia ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: even conventions that outstretch the fucking treaty of paris.
mircea_popescu: it's funny how the guy is appearingly going through the book and breaking literally everything.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo shills getting payola is so common there's actually provisions in most criminal codes for it.
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 21:49:57; mike_c: the separate RI wallet binary could talk to RI bitcoind to send btc
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo wait, their virtual best korea has an unconvertible shit currency that nevertheless is great because you can buy whores at the local wholesale whorehouse ? << Pretty much. Apparently some of the most loyal of shills have been selected. There's allegations I can't evidence that the stuff is being shipped from amazon as a gift from Homero J Garza.
assbot: Logged on 27-03-2015 21:47:49; ben_vulpes: on the other hand - what else is one going to do?