a111: Logged on 2019-01-22 07:34 mircea_popescu: the problem is, cartels not particularly impressed with usg these days. all was needed to keep assad in power was russia, but a colombia-venezuela-mexico wondertriangle is a lot easier defended.
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-22#1889120 <--> http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-29#1890470
asciilifeform: there we go.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
feedbot: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2978 << Loper OS -- Finite Field Arithmetic. Chapter 16A: The Miller-Rabin Test.
BingoBoingo: The latest noise is stroked out John Bolton doing a press conference while holding a notepad with 5000 troops to Colombia written on it. https://archive.is/TYi6x
BingoBoingo: The problem with Incan topology is how hard it is to see the lost teeth for the people wagging dogs
BingoBoingo: Noriega wasn't really sitting on much other than CIA friendship before getting stuffed into a hole
asciilifeform: perhaps idea is to stuff maduro into the recently-emptied hole where noriega sat
mircea_popescu: there's not going to be anymore "invade", after the tooth were lost in afghanistan, even syria is too much to chew.
asciilifeform: typically they invade, sometimes ( korea, vietnam ) break own teeth; but happy also to lay siege & wait
a111: Logged on 2016-11-01 22:36 asciilifeform: north kr is simply a large-scale version of the thing wonderful civilized americans like to do to prisoners, chain'em up to a post until shits himself.
asciilifeform: shinohai: http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/#selection-193.0-193.406 rhodesia , or , say, north kr , per http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-01#1561596 , is the model.
asciilifeform: ( gotta wonder, who are all these folx who think: 'hm, i have 1337 w4r3z, where should i park it... iknow! shithub!' ? )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in copyrasty lulz: https://archive.is/wpwpo << ms-shithub posts dmca wank publicly nao ; this one's against a linuxkernelism. ( https://github.com/github/dmca << moar of these than anyone could ever stomach , some quite lulzy )
BingoBoingo: Well, going by the fiat numbers retards keep tossing around it appears to be less than a quarter of their "monetary gold" http://www.mining.com/web/venezuela-gold-reserve-value-falls-14-pct-2017/
asciilifeform: 31 tonnes is , what, 10? 20? yrs of output there ?
BingoBoingo: Airstrip One probably made some smooth pitch about how doing so was the only demonstration they would accept if Vzla wanted access to their fx markets. But... unlike republican spain was not in the gold extraction business... empire running away and all that, Vzla is.
asciilifeform: it was riotously idiotic when republican spain parked theirs with stalin ( who openly laffed 'all the way to bank' ) and it's doubly idiotic nao.
asciilifeform never grasped just why ~is~ it that these folx always park those bricks in pantsuit central ~to begin with~
BingoBoingo: Appears more NeeBee'd, contrary to implications in the Anglophone media that ~1.2 billion USD in gold (why not cite the thing in its own unit of measure) is all the gold, Vzla mines gold
BingoBoingo: Odd how all these "repressive dictators" seem to have a much lighter hand than European "Champions of Demoocrity"
BingoBoingo: ^ Small supporting lul, Vzla opposition folks are reporting ~700 protester arrests over the weekend which is about an order of magnitude under the numbers Macron was was detaining when the Yellow Jacket thing was new
a111: Logged on 2019-01-15 22:09 mircea_popescu: but tbh, the "stochastic convergence test" seems to me worth A LOT more than any bs "ent" ultimately meaningless "squares of pi" bs.
asciilifeform: for instance, 1 'obvious' approach, 2 geigers equidistant from a capsule of radwaste -- also aint it -- you can never actually make the distances equal. ( it's mircea_popescu's 'clocks' thrd all over again, the 'frictionless horse' is not available )
asciilifeform: ( there is no tree on which grows a physical rng that gives 50/50 1/0 right off the bat, i looked... )
asciilifeform: imho newton/leibniz is esp. good parallel here, as even if one takes shannon to be the discoverer, you can't actually build a reasonable otptron without j. von neumann's debiasing method
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu unearthed even something from 19th c resembling a proof
asciilifeform: Mocky: iirc there was a newton-leibniz style priority wank
Mocky: wasn't it shannon with the otp proof?
asciilifeform: i see a field's infestation with alchemists, astrologers, faith healers, as a ~secondary symptom~ -- of the field not having anyffing like a rational foundation to begin with.
asciilifeform: ( the 1 where 'we dun have a grasp of strong ciphers, outside of von neumann's otp proof; only of weak ciphers' etc )
mircea_popescu: and this dun apply just to special-pleading pseudoscience, either. shitheads all the way down, to http://trilema.com/2013/the-sops-or-what-might-you-expect-from-government-clerks/ and beyond!!!
mircea_popescu: it's an incredible role reversal, the past decades wrought, when "our subgroup has special knowledges, making things readily-er obvious to us rather than general public" turned into "our subgroup has special pleadings, making things passed unlaughed at that general public would fall over to hear."
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between well and wide, for fuck's sake. what is this, intellectual fast fooding
a111: Logged on 2016-09-08 17:31 asciilifeform: the #1 entry is gut-bustingly lulzy to asciilifeform , because i spend ~half year auditing a multilinear-map thing for $rupturefarm, and even was sent to a 'conference' where 'serious cryptographers' did not even blink when someone walked in with a proof that whole thing was crock of shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so why the fuck is "amply agreeable" called "well understood".
mircea_popescu: what the fuck "cryptographic research community", at that ? what's THIS even mean, "cenaclul poetilor judeteni", aka "country poet's club" ?
asciilifeform: i suspect it's exactly like the 'well-understood that you mustn't write own crypto' idjicy.
mircea_popescu: i confess i'm mildly concerned when i don't see these "well understood" shits.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 17:21 asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'holy fuck, i thought we hit rock bottom but then heard a knock from below' lulz, http://www.loper-os.org/pub/mcleod/index.html << 'professor of engineering' tries to argue in favour of old-fashioned , carmichaelizable primality litmus ~instead~ of m-r, on acct of the 'rarity of carmichael #s' .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 'distinction' ? near as i can tell, it's the 'narrative fiction' where 'you can assume that rng works'. recall the earlier entomo-gem where 'why not use fermat litmus, piano will fall on you before you see carmichael num' etc
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-27#1890343 -> a paper with actual content, ha! though I rather doubt the authors' statement that "the need for careful distinction between non-adversarial (or random) and adversarial primality testing is of course well understood in the cryptographic research community."
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-march-april-and-may-1715-part-iv/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of March, April and May, 1715. - Part IV.
asciilifeform: for extra mindfuck : the primary xtal in the bolix ( valpey-fisher vf155 ) is a <1ppm txco.
asciilifeform: ( jobs, evidently, didn't spring for the 25ppm xtal.. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for extra lulz: they drift like hell if denied gsm ( tested with own hands )
mircea_popescu: nowadays, smartphones are within half a second of each other -- jobs fixed paris timekeeping!
mircea_popescu: the original said "The French don't like being famous for their incapacity of being on time ? Let them fix their watches somehow to the same hour, so they quit going about Paris, apparent adults, with half hour's delta among what their watches show. " and i'm willing to attest even as late as LAST DECADE this was a factual state of affairs.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other "holy shit, the world has changed!" items : http://trilema.com/2012/slabiti-ma-cu-romali-romales-si-alte-cacaturi/#selection-41.98-41.353
asciilifeform: or, in better-known turdolade, 'The Go programming language (GoLang) 1.10.3 [Goo18] created at Google in 2009 is an open source project including arbitrary-precision arithmetic and cryptographic functionality... ...the pseudorandom number generator used in this primality test is seeded with the tested number n.'
asciilifeform: 'If either LibTomMath or TomsFastMath are selected, the pseudoprimes described in Section 4.9 (see Appendix I) will always be declared prime by the primality test.' << for the innocent : 'tommath' is 1 of those 'independent, not openssl' arithmetrons...
mircea_popescu: "set an env variable" not quite the last word in terms of http://trilema.com/2019/what-is-meant-by-ai/#selection-231.1-231.42 "technololols"
asciilifeform: evidently there are still meat-people on net, somewhere.
mircea_popescu: there's of course an abundance of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-26#1890099 ; but as much as 15 maybe even 20% of the clickers simply do the right thing, go to trilema./
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a narrative is a set of interconnected events. as long as no interconnectedness is proposed, it's not a narrative, whether fictitious or factual. so you could say a painting is plastic fiction (while a photography plastic realism). cuz they're not narrative.
mircea_popescu: cheaper than buying another pipe, that's for damn sure.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile in other news, http://trilema.com/2019/trilema-images-no-longer-showing/ rather effectual in that bw usage dropped ~55% directly.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: coupla of the authors of linked item are at uni of london. think you can get at'em ?
asciilifeform: they're... 'experts'. of a kind. (in obfuscated-c, for instance.)
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. because there is such a thing as experts, and the femstate spawns them.
mircea_popescu: the fucking gall of these imbecile schmucks, then turning around going "oh, you shouldn't amateur"
asciilifeform: the're 'pros', see , they get 'donations' from microshit etc. and aaapparently ~this~ is whatfor.
asciilifeform: m-r is actually not easy to fuck up, but these folx tried hard, and -- succeeded...
asciilifeform: '...we construct a 1024-bit composite that is guaranteed to be declared prime by the GNU GMP library [Gt18] for anything up to and including 15 rounds of testing (the recommended minimum by GMP). This is as a result of GNU GMP initialising its PRNG to a static state and consequently using bases in its Miller-Rabin testing that depend only on n, the number being tested. We also show how base selection by randomly sampling from a fixed
asciilifeform: apparently not only do the derps use prng for generating witness, but they seed it ~with the candidate n~
asciilifeform: ( tldr : d00d generated 'threaded cock for smart arse' composites that break various heathen m-r proggies
asciilifeform: ^ mircea_popescu , diana_coman , possibly other aficionados ^
mircea_popescu: well, one possible explanation is "the smartphone revolution" : it managed to make say a butler overexpensive through the simple application of "why should i practice being stiff when i could just catpic all day". conceivably, if it managed to reduce the butler population to practical zero, it might've reduced others too.
asciilifeform: printing press , evidently, sent prices for various r&d service through the roof.
asciilifeform: i was similarly astonished by how much the xray people wanted for ~1~ piddling pic
asciilifeform: it is, mind-bogglingly, cheaper than having it done by other hands, even chinese.
phf: asciilifeform: yeap, i've been keeping up with what you've been publishing on the subject. i'm looking forward to your xray results, i mean that's not something i thought would be doable at home, even if a home lab
asciilifeform: ( also possibly of phf interest, the scsi replacement gadget is an a++ win, full docs at http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2943 )
mircea_popescu: the problem with knowledge : as reality scales with the set, knowledge scales with the powerset. not even calling it exponential does it justice.
asciilifeform: phf: on other front entirely, you may find interesting, asciilifeform built an xray machine, some time in coming weeks when i get coupla otherwise free hrs, will take pics of the bolix..
asciilifeform: arguably barrett is the heavy ch., the algo in the given form dun appear anywhere else (e.g. knuth) and so reqs eating the included proof.
phf: i don't understand how anyone can read the logs with one eye, this shit's exponential: i'm behind on ffa, so the recent work on e.g. gcd or miller-rabin is particularly slow going.
mircea_popescu: they were some pretty thick logs, at that.
phf: unfortunately i failed to make careful note of various vpatch appearances. there's been some by people other than asciilifeform and diana_coman where the author didn't explicitly request a btcbase upload. so if anyone's explicitly missing a vpatch that they want to be up on btcbase, please leave note with me, privmsg also works
phf: still alive, been keeping up with the logs, but not much else
asciilifeform: ^ corrected in re diana_coman thread; and no longer relies on the squaring limit conjecture mentioned earlier.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm digging through stuff and apparently Israel doesn't have a strong opinion on Vzla regime change is the US isn't going to have a strong opinion on Syria regime change seems to be the sentiment.
BingoBoingo: AHA, but still even when china is shitting out products whether or not people ask quality varies and the US does not appear to recieve the best
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: was speaking of the variant where you contact manufacturer and upload toolings etc. and pay. rather than konsoomer retail.
BingoBoingo: There's also the excellent Chicom crescent wrench acquired from tienda inglesa which surpases the quality of "crescent" brand crescent wrenches available commercially in USistan
asciilifeform: the xyz-pnoje-etc people -- do not pay for it, simply.
BingoBoingo: I have no concrete idea, but the gulf in quality between export grade chinese tooling and domestic chinese tooling is suggestive
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Could be China doesn't publish their national security export restricted list?
asciilifeform: i cannot resist to throw some petrol in the clocks fire : in the national museum in washingtonistan, i saw a matchbox-sized (1990s) device claiming to be miniaturized cesium clock. why the item aint available for a few bux from middlekingdom, however, remains to me a mystery. ( possibly in fact sham; or possibly some other explanation. )
diana_coman: anyways, I'm not pushing this strongly as "this is how I actually think it was" - as I said previously, I don't think I know enough to have much to say either way
diana_coman: I suppose the argument is that they still were the same thing i.e. that the fineness & precision differences were not so crucial as to make the result essentially something else; I can see it as such and fwiw that'd have been the default way to see it - if not for all the experience of "things that people call X and supposedly is made out of same things as X but different in implementation"
mircea_popescu: much like lenses, really, the difference between a very expensive and a very cheap glass wasn't substantial, both made of polished glass. but much different in implementation, made of complicatedly boiled glass hand polished over months or not.
mircea_popescu: well, for a long time the movements in cheap and expensive clocks were ~same, with mostly a difference of fineness, precision of machining, to distinguish them.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, perhaps re clocks though I keep thinking that the cheap ones were as clocks as current smartphones are computers
Mocky: by the looks of it, will go approx 4 days without food money before first paycheck, so this was cut pretty close
asciilifeform: ( the problem with doing so, is the 'aging' effect -- the amt of jitter tends to vary as time passes; and the fact of it being a rather expensive means of collecting thermal noise, resistor worx very similarly and costs 1% of what xtal costs )
asciilifeform: i use'em ('txco' being the generic term for subj) in radio.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: for thread-completeness - same jp folx (and others) also sell a temp-controlled 'oven' xtal, warrantied to 1 ppm. these draw lotsa current, comparatively, and cost 50x moar, so i did not use in FG ( where the accuracy of the oscillator is solely to put out the expected baud rate, and it dun do any good to make it substantially higher than the receiving machine's )
mircea_popescu: diana_coman if you think about it, that's strictly impossible. they do indeed show delta time each tick, so it's dead reckoning. how the heck would they produce strictly random time.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 18:13 phf: i supper proper presentation of fg schematics in a v-tron is either in the style of the marine chronometer book i have next to me or not at all. "taking first the essentials, c is the escape wheel. the escapement consists of the bar E, carrying the two projections e, e' etc". everything else ought to be handled separately
a111: Logged on 2017-02-17 04:27 phf: re "apprentice as watchmaker" i picked up first edition of The Marine Chronometer by Gould. i would call it "delightful"
mircea_popescu: reformulate there if ye will ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to reformulate -- in order for redundancy to do anyffin (whether yer dealing with clocks, or RNGs, or any other instrument) the error gotta be ~uncorrelated~ b/w the units
diana_coman: ahaha, I refrained from commenting because I thought "uhm, I have NO idea exactly HOW were those watches broken" but my first thought was that they were likely unpredictably broken i.e. each will show ~random hour rather than "time with x error"
asciilifeform: iirc we ~did~ have a thread where 'why didn't they make a chronometer that can be stuffed up arse, for constant temp' tho.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you were looking for a 'k vs r -strategy' illustration, this is prolly the worst possible 1. i'dve used , e.g., 'columbus send 3 $maxint boats but vikings did same with 9000 dragonheads costing ~epsilon ea.' or sumthing like it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2019/the-three-watches/#comment-127588
asciilifeform: ( unless it did so during the 1st r - 1 . )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to reformulate: need proof that the working reg will never equal 1 or n - 1 ~after~ r - 1 shots.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-26 18:16 asciilifeform: speaking of 'where to stop', diana_coman i still dunhave a Troo proof that after r - 1 shots, the squaring loop really does always cycle; so unless i find one, i'ma have to put in a mux there.
a111: Logged on 2018-08-14 20:45 asciilifeform: btw the orig folktale included mega-line 'and many did the stove crush as it went'
asciilifeform: re fishes -- ru folklore notably contains ~2~ wish-granting fish stories : 1, the internationally familiar one, where old fishwife keeps ramping up the wishitude until she overflows the register and gets fucked; and ~other~, where young lad knows how to use the fish, and gets half of kingdom , via http://btcbase.org/log/2018-08-14#1841561 process
asciilifeform: speaking of 'where to stop', diana_coman i still dunhave a Troo proof that after r - 1 shots, the squaring loop really does always cycle; so unless i find one, i'ma have to put in a mux there.
asciilifeform: ( e.g. don't ask the golden fish to 'explain turbulence!' )
asciilifeform: and hey, asciilifeform is not even the worst horse in that gluefactory, the 1000 btc or whatever it was i calculated then, is still coupla orders of magnitude smaller than that d00d we had who 'couldn't do' until he had orbiting station with solar sail or what was it ( kanzure ? )
mircea_popescu: ah, not in the slightest.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: can't seem to dredge it up in O(1). feel free to cite the summary tho, if writing a piece to laff at asciilifeform , who is big boy and wont cry
a111: 2019-01-23 <Mocky> being chucked into the air?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you might be thinking of old flamefest ( possibly with diana_coman & mircea_popescu ) where asciilifeform was asked 'why dontcha quit yer dayjob' and asciilifeform answered 'would consider it, if , like the 2 of you, had enuff coin to permanently leave slave market , with x% engineering margin' or sumthing of the kind
mircea_popescu: fifteen galons to the ton, not so bad.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: prolly there's >1 !111 got specific thrd in mind ?
asciilifeform: shinohai: see also http://lurkmore.to/%D0%A2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BB%D1%8C%D0%BD%D1%8B%D0%B9_%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80 ( 'rectothermal cryptoanalyzer' ) .
shinohai: Everyone knows this is the true way to solder: http://btcinfo.sdf.org/uploads/solderingiron.jpg
asciilifeform: ( and even with the apparently-inescapable '80s pcb layout mistakes -- there's a few blue 'bodge wire' in there )
asciilifeform: shinohai: they were pretty ordinary '80s wave-solder
a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 20:04 asciilifeform so far even avoided bitmapped maffs, in the vein of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888458
shinohai: (The color is leftover from vanilla install anyways, I usually strip this from .bashrc for daily use)
asciilifeform: can use same styling as you did for the curls etc
asciilifeform: imho it really aint important that the shell colours etc be preserved
asciilifeform: shinohai: 1 other thing -- screenshits of shell are pretty hard to read (on e.g. asciilifeform's display), i recommend to use same textblock as you use elsewhere ( e.g. where 'list of dependencies' ) rather than screenshit
shinohai: ( Currently, ave1 's website gives me "Your PHP installation appears to be missing the MySQL extension which is required by WordPress.")
asciilifeform: rather than adacorpse's
asciilifeform: shinohai: i dun have any nitpicks , other than to note that the canonical gnat is ave1's
asciilifeform: diana_coman et al : i'ma rewrite my proofism from beginning, to see if i committed any other atrocity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: asciilifeform elementarily made rubbish on the chalkboard, redoing whole thing nao.
asciilifeform: i ought not to do these before breakfast.
asciilifeform: while it boils : btw log readers can ignore the earlier arithm, it is entirely off ( asciilifeform computed r * 2^s = n instead of r * 2^s = n - 1 ... )
asciilifeform: ok, i'ma go an' set the kettle, bbl.
asciilifeform: to redo the earlier munged example: bin(12) == 1100. s = 2. r = 3. (n - 1)^r mod n == (12 - 1)^3 mod 12 == 11^3 mod 12 == 11, i.e. n - 1. witness.
diana_coman: no hurry; if I have a mistake in there I certainly want to know
asciilifeform still waking up, will have tea and ~then~ come back to item
asciilifeform goes to walk the thing again
diana_coman: unless I have a mistake in there
a111: Logged on 2019-01-26 08:58 diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889973 -> didn't rummage as too late yest but woke up this morning with this: when a= n-1 step 2.2 aka y=a^r mod n becomes y= (n-1)^r mod n; using for instance binomial expansion you have (n-1)^r = n^r + rC1*n^(r-1)*(-1)+rC2*n^(r-2)*(-1)^2+....+rC(r-1)*n*(-1)^(r-1)+(-1)^r; since the whole thing was "mod n", of all those terms you are in fact left with only the last one, aka y = (-1)^r mod n ; r is odd so
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bin(12) == 1100 . then r = 2. then, (n - 1)^r mod n == 11^2 mod 12 == 1. 12 is pronounced composite.
asciilifeform: it's a perfectly 'kosher' witness for a very large chunk of the number line.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it's a witness for some numbers. like erry other witness-for-some-numbers.
asciilifeform: it makes sense to exclude a=0 and a=1, they give no useful information. but a = n - 1 gives.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: 'nothing to do' is because it's a legit witness! algo returns 'prime'. ( and in non-constanttime incarnations, this is the ideal, shortcut case in fact )
asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/vanstone-mr.jpg << for folx following the thread, context
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-25#1889973 -> didn't rummage as too late yest but woke up this morning with this: when a= n-1 step 2.2 aka y=a^r mod n becomes y= (n-1)^r mod n; using for instance binomial expansion you have (n-1)^r = n^r + rC1*n^(r-1)*(-1)+rC2*n^(r-2)*(-1)^2+....+rC(r-1)*n*(-1)^(r-1)+(-1)^r; since the whole thing was "mod n", of all those terms you are in fact left with only the last one, aka y = (-1)^r mod n ; r is odd so
BingoBoingo: Maduro thrives on low level bureacracy. I doubt anyone is taking Nancy seriously after she proposed the same sum Trump wanted, but for robodogs.
BingoBoingo: Right, the only exultant mouths are Buzzfat reporters getting laid off, to be included in a weekend roundup of Pantsuit trips and falls
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo reading through this crap i see what you mean ; not exactly exultant pantsuit on the receiving end of trump's mercy. seems rather most of the low level bureaucracy will vote trump next, notwithstanding it owes so much to a lengthy clintonism.
BingoBoingo: For all the years Castros have held Cuba, Cuba like the rest of the island caribeans lacks an answer to the Areps
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> lol what die. i dunget the whiners, either, what sorta office inmate wouldn't kill for month of vacation ( even unpaid ) << Maduro's Venezuela has some pretty sweet beaches now forbidden to USG.blue according to intel.
asciilifeform: lol what die. i dunget the whiners, either, what sorta office inmate wouldn't kill for month of vacation ( even unpaid )
BingoBoingo: Too many weeks of hunger they die. Gotta toss some carbs occasionally to sustain the suffering.
asciilifeform: i dunget why not tease with another +3wks of hunger
BingoBoingo: Trump gives Pantsuit voters paychecks through 2-15-2019, after that they deliver his wall or he declares and emergency and heads roll to be impaled on artistically designed steel border slats
a111: Logged on 2019-01-25 19:47 BingoBoingo: In other news, it looks like Trump agrees with OMB on the furlough thing per http://qntra.net/2019/01/trump-cancels-pantsuit-vacation-party/ Agreeing to turn the government back on for 3 weeks and then declaring emergency
BingoBoingo: I read less of a cave, more let them choke on cake
asciilifeform: re the shitdown.
mircea_popescu: absolutely 0 sense, why the fuck would "openrelay ddoser" follow 301s
mircea_popescu: while the ramen stores last, at least.
mircea_popescu: nobody's openrelaying anything. that it's a typical ustard was not in dispute ; that he's doing this manually neither. schmuck is sitting on a couch as we speak, "surfing" ie trying to load pronz "from google", because "he lives in a society" and etcetera.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: luser on 1 of the big monopoly isps in usa; runs the stock router, which contains a nobu^H^H^Hfree-for-all openrelay
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's yer answr.
asciilifeform: actually listens on 4567, the infamous actiontec backdoor.
asciilifeform: ( none directly from the subj tho )
mircea_popescu: google schmoogle. the ~only life skill of jugasvilli & co consists of clicking the retry button indefinitely.
asciilifeform: then i got nuffin
BingoBoingo: Maybe the reddit sciencehaet chick?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wtf tunnel is there between yonkers and queens or w/e ?!
asciilifeform: they would if crapple kbd still had a f5 lol
mircea_popescu: i bet you 5 years after reddit went the way of the dnc, they'll still be pressing f5
asciilifeform: well yea train goes into tunnel, then out
mircea_popescu: how the fuck.
mircea_popescu: guy prolly takes his pets to the vet, "doc, i think something's wrong, i keep retrying them on the nose but nothing happens"
mircea_popescu: i shudder to think how many times the average toaster is rebooted on an average week of its average life in the average yonkers household.
mircea_popescu: as it happens that's not a bot -- 74.90.192.109 is allocated to some schmuck in yonkers, ny, and the timing delays clearly indicate what these fucktards do : RETRY.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> Jacob completed his secondary education in Moscow and thereafter studied at Tbilisi State Academy << i read "thereafter" as "therefore" and was very confused/amused for a minute
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: adivino que he's talking about the city hall taxi chargers
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: But the future is clearly wifi panchos https://i.redd.it/4vsofdw11lc21.jpg
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Do you recall a bunch of loud electric taxi chargers near the intendencia? I forget when they showed up, but if you can offer a yes/no that shrinks the window
asciilifeform: from asciilifeform's surface inspection, place wasn't exactly swarming with either. then again mebbe they all were in the fu ajedrez
BingoBoingo: Reads the big German philosophers and gets disappointed when I fail to turn the freedom trap I offer him with the Pric into a win
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i dun think i could resist the temptation . and whoknows, maybe yer schubert eats 1 too many magick pies that day , and loses
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Good fellow who does morning shifts at the barracks.
asciilifeform: to rework the old saw, the a-students birth the b-students, ..., the c-students birth the redditus.
mircea_popescu: there's some serious fucking issues in the brainbox of the rettardit generation. why THE FUCK do they think i'll take their pompous bullshit seriously ? what fucking fine arts. it's a dodge.
mircea_popescu: Jacob completed his secondary education in Moscow and thereafter studied at Tbilisi State Academy of Fine Arts from 1992-1994. In 1997 he graduated from the Glasgow School of Art (Painting and Drawing) with a BA. Between 1997 and 2000 Jacob showed at various London venues: the Boundary Gallery, Lamont Gallery, Royal College of Art, London Art Fair, Georgia 2000 exhibition at Cork streets Gallery 27. In 1999 his works were sho
BingoBoingo: For the raep story files from the Toronto Sun: https://archive.is/fLZBv with the question: What gender does RBG identify as in the hospital?
BingoBoingo: February is the month of prepping for alf and more Rockchip, pupper and cheese can both wait
BingoBoingo: Registration doesn't close until the 31st or they get enough paid interest. In the interim I'm mulling over the opportunity cost of the tournament versus a pupper versus more cheese.
mod6: I'll stake you if you wanna go and rub-elbows with these guys.
BingoBoingo: And no, I have no idea why they named it after urinal guy yet
BingoBoingo: 60 USD registration fee and 16th-30th place offer 50 USD as the prize
BingoBoingo: http://fuajedrez.com/Noticias/ID/1169/III-Abierto-de-Montevideo-Copa-Marcel-Duchamp-2019 << The thing that got caught in the alerts filter
BingoBoingo: Pretty sure we did that drunk in 2013 and the truffles chick nearly won before disappearing
BingoBoingo: As my ELO is well under the 2400 necessary for a fee waiver and free room I suspect the 60 USD would be better allocated to either a Daschund or cheese
BingoBoingo giving an appearance at the Montevideo Open Chess Tournament a thought
mircea_popescu: the sudden political implosion & sinkage of airstrip one is pretty lulzy. "henry 7th powers" indeed.
mircea_popescu: https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article13905138.ece/ALTERNATES/s810/0_MAIN-Brexit.jpg << anyone spot the difference >> https://archive.is/wUtKi/b3218d8701549846a8368939a450d4d3950f68b6.jpg ?
BingoBoingo: Just gotta go to Mujica's hood in Prado to see them
BingoBoingo: But there are indeed cows in city limits
BingoBoingo: Here in Uruguay we have grass and grass means cows, or rats in locations the cows don't fit
BingoBoingo: Well, in Vzla they got jungle and jungle means anacondas
BingoBoingo: Well, they have some pretty cool snake fighting dogs
shinohai: Seems Venezuela gets all the cool stuff, like Relampago del Catatumbo and La Mancha Negra. Dunno if they have death spiders there either though.
mircea_popescu: kinda the eternal problem of the count-of-knobs. put it in, now it's in. put it behind a knob, now there's a knob. leave it out, now it's out.
asciilifeform: could easily come in ultra-handy if sudden burst of heathen traffic.
mircea_popescu: aaanyway, i dunno if specifically should or shouldn't be included in mp-wp, but it's certainly there published to be coopted if useful.
asciilifeform uses these strictly in 'за что купил за то и продаю' situations
asciilifeform: they're imho ugly as sin too
asciilifeform so far even avoided bitmapped maffs, in the vein of e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-20#1888458
asciilifeform 's www, not being superstar like trilema, serves up maybe 20-30GB (incl. to spamcrawlers) on a heavy day, so never bothered
mircea_popescu: if anyone's hindered by teh item in their legitimate extersions lemme know.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the tradition is to send img hotlinkers goatse, but this also a++
mircea_popescu: in other unrelated luls, in the country apparently named "el salvador" there exists a town called "la libertad".
asciilifeform: diana_coman: i went through the algo, to bake ffaistic proof of correctness, and get n - 1.
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I even remember I did go with pen and paper precisely through this but I'd need to rummage through the old papers to find it again, ugh
BingoBoingo: Well, you know how the alarm gets stuck on so you gotta buy another while the first is wailing? Government of Lawls not men?
mircea_popescu: gotta shake the box
asciilifeform: the bit got stuck on.