funkenstein_: the keys have to live somewhere on disk
funkenstein_: you mean like the lifetimes and whatnot?
ascii_field: the 'key management' is, imho, a crudfest and Must Die (TM)
funkenstein_: yeah i guess there is no need to make it crufiter
funkenstein_: well why are there multiple DSAs in gpg?
funkenstein_: i mean, it saves the step of you signing an address
funkenstein_: there are multiple DSAs, seems like it is supposed to be extensible
lobbes: <ben_vulpes> gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use << oy, so my privkey isn't as private as I thought? I feel like I'm always realizing I'm using the borked versions of all the things
mats: oh, thats what i get for not reading the article
ben_vulpes: gpg 1.4 is the only gpg to use.
williamdunne: trinque: I suppose we should be thankful that the GPG developer is in Germany
trinque: williamdunne: sure, then they want to monitor all communications in order to enforce this requirement (nothing new, but brings it into the "open")
williamdunne: trinque: I would imagine they either a) want flawed PRNG or b) want all encryption to be done to the recipients key and the NSA's golden key
trinque: probably something like "uh... we need access to all the iPhones"
trinque: it's hard to fathom precisely what they propose here
trinque: I guess it doesn't if the NSA keys are bolted into every system made
williamdunne: trinque: except with NSAbase.io you *have* to give them your keys
trinque: williamdunne: NSA proposes they become keybase.io for all encrypted communications
trinque: though I wouldn't be surprised if they pass something this year
trinque: same thing happened with the patriot act
assbot: The NSA wants tech companies to give it 'front door' access to encrypted data | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1FCHAH6 )
trinque: https://www.theverge.com/2015/4/12/8392769/nsa-front-door-access-encryption-key << "Front door" not "back door"! very comforting
BingoBoingo: Just woke up and getting to the news digging
pete_dushenski: "Note: To stall core development 6 years after inception is perhaps the stupidest thing anyone has ever recommended in the history of time." << because 'sapien' knows all the histories nao ?
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The information is useful to include, the method of using first paragraph footnotes weirds up the first page though.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: nonsense. there's no such thing as someone who isn't interesting to look at.
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Can you please rewrite without the first paragraph footnotes being footnotes in the first paragraph?
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i recall this well as these are the source of the only pictures i've ever seen of you
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: well, you're going to the conference so...
pete_dushenski: 'this is what rich people do' or somesuch being the title
jurov: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/your-money/at-nello-a-case-of-restaurant-bill-shock-the-haggler.html .. but, this is 2 figures more
ascii_field: and where is the attached golden toilet bill for crapping it out once eaten ?
ascii_field: http://www.linear.com/solutions/5153 << further examples from that vendor. there are others, and it is entirely possible to achieve the effect with discrete components
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 13:36:52; mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?
ben_vulpes: so the IED truck drove over an IED, blasted off like team rocket and then assploded at apogee?
williamdunne: *This URL has been excluded from the Wayback Machine.*
ben_vulpes: it's the foooooooture
pete_dushenski: what else are they doing around their house that's occupying their hands ? changing diapers ?
pete_dushenski: williamdunne: it's in the logs
pete_dushenski: the french "ferme les lumieres" has gibbled my english
pete_dushenski: "turn off the lights"
pete_dushenski: "Amazon Echo is designed around your voice. It's always on—just ask for information, music, news, weather, and more. Echo begins working as soon as it detects the wake word."
nubbins`: not like the lead researcher is gonna produce a paper worth shitting on if they don't care what the research is about :D
pete_dushenski: perhaps wishing that someone would care that much about their old bones someday
pete_dushenski: or just old doods who made a buck along the way and think that dinosaurs are neato
pete_dushenski: i wonder who funds research into dinofeathers
nubbins`: after all, what is the plural of anecdote if not fact?
nubbins`: or "hypothetically"
nubbins`: maybe he meant to say "in theory"
pete_dushenski: though i suppose it's not an unreasonable assumption to say that feathers were +ev for mating before anything else, calling it 'a fact' is a bit loose
pete_dushenski: such science these paleotards
nubbins`: birds, the sexiest dinosaurs of all
pete_dushenski: "An examination of its tail may reveal whether the father or the mother was keeping those eggs warm, offering new clues about the social lives of those dinosaurs. It may also reveal where feathers came from, since oviraptors didn't fly and aren't that closely related to the dinosaurs that gave rise to birds, Persons added. "This tells us that in fact complex feathers first originated not for flight or for glidin
pete_dushenski: you gonna toss his plastic cutting boards to the curb ?
nubbins` seriously considers putting all of roomie's possessions out on the sidewalk
pete_dushenski: i really don't follow it anymore but happened to catch the last hole of the tournament at the health club yesterday
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Vexual: im assuming the police email it poorly written, is that racist?
nubbins`: the email in question can be viewed here, in case anyone's wondering how a cop would try to whitewash a murder to his colleagues: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfoundland-labrador/rnc-officer-who-shot-don-dunphy-wishes-better-intervention-possible-1.3027828
nubbins`: guy sends an email to EVERY EMPLOYEE of the police force and we're surprised it got out?
nubbins`: BREAKING: RNC Chief Bill Janes has ordered an internal investigation into the leak of an email written by the officer who shot Don Dunphy in Mitchells Brook last week
nubbins`: again, because the tongue is designed to heal incredibly quickly
nubbins`: consider how quickly your tongue healed the last time you bit it hard enough to draw blood and oaths
Vexual: armless fun then
nubbins`: "Tongue-splitting in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor." heh
mircea_popescu: NOW we find out the guy had priors ?
mircea_popescu: Alright, that one is probably legitimate, although Todd claims that its more a matter of confusion and not being told that it was an issue thanks to Americas lax laws on gun purchases, no red flags showed up when he bought a handgun for home protection and he never considered at the time it was a problem."
nubbins`: guy was destined for jail either way
nubbins`: iirc, the whole "mods" vs "practicing medicine w/o license" thing was a BIG DEAL in the usa at the time
mircea_popescu: . Robyn was threatened with the loss of her daughter, and eventually the two of them, being told they would be spending the rest of their lives in prison should they plead not guilty, chose to make a false confession on a variety of charges in exchange for reduced time."
mircea_popescu: "And then, before letting him decide whether or not hed actually make such an ethical compromise, in late 2002 the FBI raided his house, and Todd Bertrang and his girlfriend Robyn have been in prison ever since. No real evidence was ever presented against them, and no trial was ever held. Virtually no one stood up to defend Todd, and even those who supported of him cowered cautiously, fearing that they would be next
nubbins`: the number of people who cared when bertrang was arrested? epsilon
mircea_popescu: i need 20mn in loans like i need another glass of water. if i want it i'll get it myself.
mircea_popescu: dude... gtfo. a) 20mn isn't even a house. b) investment is investment. they're not gifting him 20mn.
mircea_popescu: "Ask yourselves: how far would you compromise your ethics for $20 million? Thats an amount of money so high that youd be able to fulfill all your dreams and live in luxury for the rest of your life. At how many million dollars does your cracking point lie?"
mircea_popescu: here's a picture of a cute cat. this brings us to your daugther. she's a slut.
nubbins`: larratt was a whitewasher like no other
mircea_popescu: somehow the bme people don't seem to have heard of this tho.
nubbins`: Under questioning from James Walsh, an Assistant United States Attorney, Mr. Flynt said he got the tape from a mystery man he identified only as ''the samurai.''
mircea_popescu: While many outsiders disapproved of Todds methods and highly sexual lifestyle, the vast majority of Todds clients all consensual of course spoke extremely highly of him and were very happy with the work hed done on them."
mircea_popescu: "At age forty, he was almost single-handedly responsible for the popularity of female genital modification, which, largely due to his promotion of it, had moved out of the fetish scene and become a lucrative business for cosmetic surgeons.
mircea_popescu: s show the agents actually threatening to kill John Deloreans daughter if he didnt proceed with the drug deal. It should also be noted that Larry Flynt was briefly imprisoned for contempt of court for revealing this information."
mircea_popescu: "The only reason that John Delorean avoided a long term prison sentence is that Hustler publisher Larry Flynt was able to obtain tapes showing not only that the drug trafficking idea was invented and proposed by the US government, but that both the cocaine and the money were provided FBI, and most importantly, that John Delorean told the undercover agents that he wasnt interested and begged to be let go the tape
nubbins`: i recall taking some terrible advice of his at one point in the past
nubbins`: i wonder what todd bertrang is up to these days
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mircea_popescu: imagine something else : what the same "observers" (= famished idiots trying to make money out of blather) would have said in that case.
nubbins`: trick question. no laws on the books concerning abortion in any way, shape, or form.
nubbins`: pop quiz: what are the major points of canada's abortion laws?
nubbins`: "Some observers have argued that Clinton’s repetition of the Democratic slogan that abortion should be “safe, legal, and rare”reinforces the stigmatization of those who choose that option."
nubbins`: Vexual think far enough ahead and you'll find yourself in the woods with a bucksaw
nubbins`: with customer service like this, IDGAF that they were closed for a week for passover
nubbins`: they call me an hour later: "this other method will get it there in 3 days, we'll do it for $130"
nubbins`: so i neglect to order this batch of paper on time. gotta have it in-hand this week. i choose the $220 shipping option on the website because it's the cheapest option beyond UPS ground.
Vexual: or the girl who you think, i wonder how she got that?
nubbins`: mats they look like the coats you see people wearing when you say to yourself "i bet that was expensive"
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what i don't get with all the libertards is why exactly they imagine oppression is a bad thing.
Vexual: nope, theyre just happy
Vexual: teenage pregnancy is frowned upon here, but the 29 yer olds with self sufficient spawn are very happy
nubbins`: pretty sure i won the disrespect of at least half a dozen people by tearing strips off that one
nubbins`: speaking of jacobin magazine, i once read an essay therein which expounded upon the implicit oppression in the statement "do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i dun get the 'anything but pregnancy' thing ?
pete_dushenski: and skill isn't particularly part of the equation
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski what, finding something they can be good at ? mmmmyeah...
nubbins`: you go to japan, nobody working at the mcdonald's is sullen or put out
nubbins`: the major employer of youth
nubbins`: pete_dushenski if there's one way that north america fucked itself in the ass, it's the concept of "respectable work"
mircea_popescu: meh. people who are good at it are very happy there, i've found.
pete_dushenski: because there are options
nubbins`: so bozo rolls downstairs, finds his cold chicken fingers on the counter
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: for the same reason
nubbins`: 35 at the very least
Vexual: so you walked to the bank alone?
mircea_popescu: the rest i dun really recall that clearly.
mircea_popescu: i was not exactly clueless and very scary. the heads were in either case male, over 40.
nubbins`: you're lucky to have 2 full time employees who know what they're at
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the vast majority of fooderies are staffed by 19-20yo's with clueless managers
mircea_popescu: anyway, to not peel off more than is fair : i rather distantly ran the kitchen, by virtue of ownership. it did have a chief cook and everything.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i can barely imagine your face the first time you bought a bitcoin
nubbins`: pete_dushenski imagine my face the first time i saw a squeegee sharpening machine
pete_dushenski is still in shock over these fucking cutting board planing machines...
mircea_popescu: and the pots and pans each week.
mircea_popescu: women (the young ones) brushed it with a steel brush each evening.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` for the record, traditional (european) cooking happened around this large flat table of very thick oak
nubbins`: fridge after that, most of the heavy lifting's done
nubbins`: i won't eat this util late april at the earliest
nubbins`: mircea_popescu the fermentation is *just* starting it.
mircea_popescu: the fermented cabagge stuff i like is 5 months
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: of course the walk-in fridges have metal grill shelving
Vexual: whats the recipie again?
nubbins`: also fwiw i made kimchi day before yes, ~5th batch so far, anyone who likes food and is halfway handy in the kitchen is strongly encouraged to try making some
mircea_popescu: the advantage is you can have it made in any shape for little effort.
mircea_popescu: glass works, but clay has this superb thermic inertia
nubbins`: incidentally, my favourite chinese take-out was not listed in the restaurant inspection reports
mircea_popescu: most of the fridge pots were actually clay.
pete_dushenski: specially at the chinese restaurants
pete_dushenski: holy sweet mother of public health
nubbins`: when they finally put restaurant inspection reports online for people to read, every single restaurant i've ever eaten at was given a citation for cutting boards needing resurfacing
nubbins`: he has a problem with securing the domicile
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: leaves the door open and... rat comes in ?
nubbins`: now you're in the 0.1% :D
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski not as hard as it was for this guy to figure out the cook leaves the door open eh ?
nubbins`: how often did you resurface the cutting boards?
pete_dushenski: ya, it's almost impossible to be shut down on the spot
pete_dushenski: given that incubation periods for common foodborne pathogens range from 1-7 days, that people have varying susceptibilities and that most people eat out somewhat frequently, it's hard to isolate the source
nubbins`: pete_dushenski i figured i'd leave that one for someone who wants to put in the time
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2015 13:37:43; mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down
nubbins`: awake at 7am after opening the first beer at 11pm? probably coked up
funkenstein_: turned to smoke and settled evenly around the room
funkenstein_: the ramen?
funkenstein_: i woke up they were gone
nubbins`: seriously though how do you leave 8 chicken fingers in the oven?
Vexual: yes trendsetters, they're making too mcuh money too kep up that bullshit
Vexual: isnt btc jam high on the.info advertisers list?
Vexual: box jellyfish tentacles, defused with vinegar,now theres something to work with
nubbins`: anyway. the place was voted canada's best restaurant a couple years in a row
nubbins`: i think three stars *is* the most a restaurant can get
mircea_popescu: afaik the most stars you can get was three.
Vexual: the similarities are endless
mircea_popescu: dude you asked me how sex is different from eating at a restaurant, and then answered yourself.
nubbins`: anyway, despite the fact that this guy works as a cook at various 4-star restaurants
Vexual: youre in the wrong spot
nubbins`: so then nothing
mircea_popescu: so then.
Vexual: i look at the kitchen, i dont touch it
mircea_popescu: what's to continue lol. you've never bothered to think about contagion, which is excusable seeing how you're no biologist.
nubbins`: what's included in the set of {something}? a wink? syphilis?
mircea_popescu: let's see what other logic doesn't follow.
nubbins`: it's just the logic doesn't follow
mircea_popescu: other than that... have fun neh ?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` what i said was that the kitchen's the worst place to share with some whoever. it is.
nubbins`: after all, it's not like anyone else would use the syphilis fork in that time frame
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of online. hospitals report infections, disease control tracks them.
mircea_popescu: restaurants are very safe, because if they become infected it's obvious within a day and they get shut down
mircea_popescu: women are slightly vulnerable to bad bathrooms, but slightly. you're a guy, you don't have a problem there. what are you going to catch, rabies ?
mircea_popescu: there's a major difference between "stuff goes in" and everything else.
nubbins`: like the doorknobs
mircea_popescu: generally sharing a kitchen and sharing a woman is about the same scenario.
Vexual: yeah well, i clean the overn, so
nubbins`: this is almost as retarded as leaving the front door not only unlocked, but actually /not fully closed/, a total of 8 times so far /this year/
nubbins` turned on the oven 15 minutes ago to pre-heat it; couldn't find the cookie sheet; opened the oven to find 10 burned chicken fingers inside
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mircea_popescu: actually iirc was even discussed in the log, of all places, somewhat recently.
funkenstein_: you know the one about the prisoner sentenced to death, who was told it would be one day this week but not a day he expects?
nubbins`: "Walmart executives have continued to look favorably on her, with Alice Walton donating the maximum amount to the “Ready for Hillary” Super PAC in 2013. Walton’s $25,000 donation was considerably higher than the average annual salary for Walmart’s hourly employees"
funkenstein_: irc = not the place, sorry
funkenstein_: speaking of which, a bar joke i heard last night, whats the difference between marmalade and jam?
nubbins`: "sodom, they got 'em with they curls out, even got a better sales pitch than the girl scouts"
nubbins`: worth listening to, purely for the number of food/sex double entendres
Vexual: seriously tho, shes been in the game since honeys was wearing sassoons
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Vexual: bearded cake is the biz
Vexual: glue to the plastic
Vexual: whats at the end of nubbins albert chain?
nubbins`: further criticism from me here: http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2015/04/13#l1428929251
nubbins`: some years ago, my father showed me this "certification booklet" that he carried as part of his job (gov marine safety inspections)
mircea_popescu: "then why did you eat it ?"
nubbins`: neither says "français"
nubbins`: funkenstein_ you could at least spell it the romanian way ;p
funkenstein_: in other news: http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-civilizations-that-mysteriously-disappeared.php
mircea_popescu: i much prefer cosmo. at least there's women.
mircea_popescu: i've never actually read either
mircea_popescu: except for all the other people also making their living out of badly translated french maculature."
mircea_popescu: "i am the only person in this country that can sort-of grasp the meaning of long french phrases
mircea_popescu: if americans didn't read french, how exactly would you imagine all the "new concepts" they publish would be made ?
mircea_popescu: back in the 60s and 70s it was looking like muchly the other way. but today, scientology is a barely surviving holdout of those olden days of talk psych.
mircea_popescu: generally, the more brilliant derps in any bogus field are the ones that'll finally sink it. he's chiefly the reason us pseudo-sicence of the mind went the way of pills.
mircea_popescu: in the process paving the way for the ulterior extirpation from human preoccupations of stuff like "social studies".
mircea_popescu: the less important is his intellectual contribution - he proved conclusively that a "field" with "its own terminology" is not for this purely rhetorical reason respectable.
mircea_popescu: conversely : if you're going to con people, take the least time possible. you'll deliver just as much con to each victim, but make more money at it.
mircea_popescu: (because they're exactly equally effective, being shamans).
mircea_popescu: as the expression goes, when hiring a shaman don't hire the "best", hire the cheapest
mircea_popescu: lacan is remembered chiefly for two things. the more important was his economic superiority - he was the first talk psych to reduce the session time. he'd charge people for three minutes sort of thing. that made him more productive than his peers.
funkenstein_: gotta get the originals i suppose