ben_vulpes: testing answers specific questions.
ben_vulpes: what is "work"
ben_vulpes: clearly impossible.
ben_vulpes: i know that i'm a barbarian but i'm more of a Sven than a Hulk.
ben_vulpes: what, am i to expect my test harness to sprout warts spontaneously?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this *can* test behavior with ill-behaved nodes.
ben_vulpes: harkens back to my work with robots at one point.
ben_vulpes: not being cpp competent, a useful thing for me to do is write a bash btc harness that points bitcoinds at each other for mining, tx validation, broadcast, etc.
ben_vulpes: this is actually a thing that i am working on.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: what the fuck.
ben_vulpes: kiddo to my right laughed at me when i started texting lady v - "how are you even going to -- whoaaaaa."
ben_vulpes: t9 is a lost technology like lisp.
ben_vulpes: dickhead
ben_vulpes: oh i can tell
ben_vulpes is desperate to see logs from that block, but must run own self.
ben_vulpes: and 252450 243.0712890625 KB ibid
ben_vulpes: 252448 is 243.23046875 KB according to blockchain.info
ben_vulpes: now this is an oddity
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: needs endif on rear cover
ben_vulpes: is not buildable on TOYOS
ben_vulpes: i run litecoin (tee hee) in vm.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: toss toss
ben_vulpes: my 0.5.3 is down because xcode is a resource hog
ben_vulpes: ah ty
ben_vulpes: ah - asciilifeform which block number?
ben_vulpes: and if unpatched - 0.5.3 will wedge at some large block.
ben_vulpes: that looks downright vaginal jurov
ben_vulpes: lg440g
ben_vulpes: dafuq am i going to do with bt
ben_vulpes: it's got bluetooth lol
ben_vulpes: android too these days.
ben_vulpes: i run an ios shop.
ben_vulpes: guys quit trollin.
ben_vulpes: hammering out texts without even looking at the keypad
ben_vulpes: I STILL GOT IT BABY
ben_vulpes: it's got t9
ben_vulpes: prepaid minutes
ben_vulpes: ahhhh holy shit you guys i just bought a flipphone
ben_vulpes: what the ever loving fuck is a press list and--nevermind.
ben_vulpes misses working with robots
ben_vulpes watches lispy robot video
ben_vulpes is entirely unsurprised.
ben_vulpes: haha
ben_vulpes: code quality and performance is highly dependent on author, skills.
ben_vulpes: note that asciilifeform says "my cl".
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: just getting rid of boost is going to entail that.
ben_vulpes: b-b-b-b-bash buster!
ben_vulpes: pahaha.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: merging!
ben_vulpes: 'tis odd.
ben_vulpes: the religious ones in salem.
ben_vulpes: the gangsters live in vancouver
ben_vulpes: lots of russians in the area.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: can't say as i recall, the impression was formed over the course of 3 raves in quarries in the depths of oregon forests over my sixteenth summer.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell PeterL first, second, third, umpteenth will get done. arbitrary items from bottom of list by time not communicated to dev team?
ben_vulpes: "we understand that you want these things. we will work on them in the agreed upon and prioritized order. you authorize unlimited budget in hopes that we can get it all done."
ben_vulpes: hours only
ben_vulpes: maybe the next time i actually laugh at a scope/timeline combination in a meeting and the potential client still falls all over themselves to sign our no deliverable, best effort contract my internal warning flags should go up
ben_vulpes: client signed a no-deliverable, best effort contract with us and then made promises to their client executives.
ben_vulpes: holy f
ben_vulpes: lol popped one out and became intolerable?
ben_vulpes: that has a manifest you'll find useful.
ben_vulpes: take a look at the first patch on therealbitcoin.org
ben_vulpes: the -assets build is realnix only
ben_vulpes: os x what now?
ben_vulpes: glhf
ben_vulpes: have at, undata
ben_vulpes: get outta heah!
ben_vulpes: nope
ben_vulpes: ;;google trilema variety speak
ben_vulpes: what about bdb lock config?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform wants valground turd and...what is this 'delete blkindex'?
ben_vulpes: classic russian fatalism
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform issues challenge now.
ben_vulpes: will serve
ben_vulpes: am software
ben_vulpes: both starving big zone kulaks
ben_vulpes: i - software services
ben_vulpes: he - software as a service
ben_vulpes: dark mirror images of each other in some aspects
ben_vulpes: aye
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: share physical space, look at code as a...
ben_vulpes: if i don't have a thing going on on saturday we could even go so far as to pair
ben_vulpes: i halfway think the gpg signature turdatron blocking merges and discussion needs to be nuked and implemented by some eager beaver later
ben_vulpes: undata: we're currently blocked on a mailing list thinger that may or may not see the light of day anytime soon
ben_vulpes: preferrably, build.
ben_vulpes: grab those patches, review, add sig if you want to put your ass on the line.
ben_vulpes: sweet. i can now custom index logs.
ben_vulpes: hashtag asciilifeform patch collection october
ben_vulpes: hashtag asciilifeform patch collection
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> why am i even telling this, go run it << sir you are a gift to the logs
ben_vulpes: "just try a bunch of different numbers until you find one that works"
ben_vulpes: the notes on bdb lock size are hilarious
ben_vulpes: source of breakage, also a mystery.
ben_vulpes: reasonable.
ben_vulpes: why thread does not show the same as date and author is a mystery to me.
ben_vulpes: and girl
ben_vulpes: ripping usg crud out of the thing is a recipe to endanger any coins i'd have if i were not eating ramen so that the dog might eat
ben_vulpes: glory? who cares for that.
ben_vulpes: at least this time nobody's asking me what color my trabamborghini will be, or offering me worthless options.
ben_vulpes: undata: yes i'm just so pleased to bite off this chunk of responsibility for no remuneration
ben_vulpes: it's making a point.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you'll note: not signed.
ben_vulpes: curl http://therealbitcoin.org/charter-B71EADAF.asc | gpg --verify
ben_vulpes: verify for yourself.
ben_vulpes: therealbitcoin.org/charter.html
ben_vulpes: can't disappoint me.
ben_vulpes: i for one expect nothing.
ben_vulpes: let's see how this collection plate goes, turdmeisters
ben_vulpes: // + Contains no strange transactions
ben_vulpes: // timestamp before)
ben_vulpes: // (no blocks before with a timestamp after, none after with
ben_vulpes: // + Is surrounded by blocks with reasonable timestamps
ben_vulpes: // What makes a good checkpoint block?
ben_vulpes: more lulz
ben_vulpes: i can pay only in time.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i'm referring to mp's reasoning as to why functional turdatrons are not published
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the argument "no benefit, some risk"?
ben_vulpes: that story had a what - century long incubation period?
ben_vulpes: sure.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: you're moving at a pretty high velocity.
ben_vulpes: what?
ben_vulpes: gratzi asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: forgive my valgrind/c naivte, but i'm assuming that indirectly lost refers to memory that cannot be freed?
ben_vulpes: a fact conveniently overlooked by populist health preachers.
ben_vulpes: it's all a matter of demand, the tooling is out there.
ben_vulpes: spider silk componds in goat bladders?
ben_vulpes: thc?
ben_vulpes: cocaine?
ben_vulpes: but i been out of the atoms biz for a while now.
ben_vulpes: p sure that's a thing already.
ben_vulpes: like dna base pairs in bulk?
ben_vulpes: vlsi or crappy door handle...
ben_vulpes: i really don't see the difference.
ben_vulpes: also, your typical us "food product" fab.
ben_vulpes: sounds like your typical semi fab.
ben_vulpes: 30 btc and a testing framework for 0.5.3
ben_vulpes: punkman: python-gnupg iirc
ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/30/enough-of-what-most-people-think-tell-me-what-you-think-or-stfu/#comment-4230 << when it emerges from moderation
ben_vulpes: h foundit
ben_vulpes: thickasthieves: where's that pankkake comment from?
ben_vulpes: i ultimately went the route of shelling out to gpg directly and writing my own little lib that did exactly what i needed and nothing else
ben_vulpes: punkman: i've run afoul of the python gnupg wrapper
ben_vulpes: what magic dingy laptop is this
ben_vulpes: lol can you hear the movie over the things fans?
ben_vulpes: but vlc handles everything...
ben_vulpes: converting?!
ben_vulpes: hah microsoft's got a wristband product
ben_vulpes must away
ben_vulpes: then check again on deed submission and barf if they're still not in l2
ben_vulpes: capture keyid, barf if they're not in l2
ben_vulpes: have people dump their keys in themselves
ben_vulpes: edgar has been tuned to deliver to certain IPs before others?
ben_vulpes: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/29/us-markets-sec-traders-idUSKBN0II0DC20141029 << what the fuck am i even reading
ben_vulpes: punkman: i'm not seeing the part where you shell out to gpg in there
ben_vulpes: woo
ben_vulpes: just put the repo into sunlight
ben_vulpes: clean verification i mean
ben_vulpes: making a thing that can't be dumped into gpg and produce a clean sig?
ben_vulpes: heresy
ben_vulpes: i've not gone so far.
ben_vulpes: oh, i get it.
ben_vulpes makes faces
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: how on earth do you get a btc addr out of it
ben_vulpes: punkman: without the deed title i get a good sig
ben_vulpes: punkman: fwiw, i get a bad sig out of that
ben_vulpes: 2(?) years later.
ben_vulpes: on the topic of "no more bitcoin businesses" the bitcoin foundation is finally capitulating and following in MPEx's footsteps.
ben_vulpes: hee hee hee
ben_vulpes: mkay.
ben_vulpes: are you willing to share the source for deedbot?
ben_vulpes: how can you possibly verify a signature without the key?!
ben_vulpes: you should really grab fingerprints out of otc db and then import those keys.
ben_vulpes: yes, yes you do.
ben_vulpes: or bash emacs into submission
ben_vulpes: cat deedbut.html ... poopy
ben_vulpes: curl deedbutts > deebut.html
ben_vulpes: punkman: can you give that to me in raw format? i'm seeing ^M all over the place
ben_vulpes: if hopes were horses we'd all gallop to bsas.
ben_vulpes: what's the rush, anyways?
ben_vulpes: yeah.
ben_vulpes: so while i appreciate the slicing dicing and otherwise pureeing of warts...
ben_vulpes: logs are great, but this shit will benefit strongly from a mailman list record of actions and discussions.
ben_vulpes: i'm waiting on turdatron for merges, as well.
ben_vulpes: (and anyone else interested in patching)
ben_vulpes: returning to my original point, please email the set of your patches and sigs to benkay@gmail.com, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: *sigh*
ben_vulpes: !s *.patch
ben_vulpes: !s patch
ben_vulpes: actually
ben_vulpes: so sil vous plait
ben_vulpes: we're not all wunderkind
ben_vulpes: what, you want a custom mailman in 2 days?
ben_vulpes: seems escaped in the body as well
ben_vulpes shrugs
ben_vulpes: still kinda stinky.
ben_vulpes: iPnohe
ben_vulpes: (stinking...)
ben_vulpes: mailman thinking...
ben_vulpes: have you tried that?
ben_vulpes: <jurov> asciilifeform: mailman will display gpg clearsigned attachment inline if you rename it to .txt (and i don't ned to diddle code then)
ben_vulpes: stinky
ben_vulpes: woof turd indeed
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/000001.html ??
ben_vulpes: but this right here http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2014-October/thread.html constrains the filtering problem to something vastly more manageable.
ben_vulpes: yes, please do.
ben_vulpes: but a vast improvement over your pooping patches into the noisestream here.
ben_vulpes: not as useful as it *will* be, granted.
ben_vulpes: hardly.
ben_vulpes: at the moment it's not even relaying mail to me.
ben_vulpes: a description of contents should suffice.
ben_vulpes: is such necessary?
ben_vulpes: same as we've been doing.
ben_vulpes: .tar.gz, including patch and detached sig.
ben_vulpes: hey asciilifeform do a sapper a favor and start emailing your patches to btc-dev@therealbitcoin.org
ben_vulpes: anyways.
ben_vulpes: ah yeah that must be why i thought you'd like it.
ben_vulpes: the site i want to serve has links to /charter.html, /v0.5.3-gd05c03a.tar.gz and other stuff
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i've pushed an update to the site, but the byzantine serving mechanism isn't providing it for some reason.
ben_vulpes: i'd almost rather stick it behind a webserver running on the same host as the mailman app.
ben_vulpes: jurov: can you straighten the s3 bucket backing therealbitcoin.org out?
ben_vulpes: quite.
ben_vulpes: yes yes.
ben_vulpes: or skeleton_key
ben_vulpes: i think i'd rather be a general key
ben_vulpes: p great handle btw
ben_vulpes: <Pvt_Key> if you feel a stupid you did not make that stupid. << who is pranking me now
ben_vulpes goes back to encrypting keys that google insists be shared
ben_vulpes: wd all.
ben_vulpes: yup.
ben_vulpes: otherwise the phenom's just to clearly retarded to be even slightly amusing
ben_vulpes: yeah gotta mix in some truth with it
ben_vulpes: but not angiecast
ben_vulpes: bitbimbo
ben_vulpes: bitcunt
ben_vulpes: bitcoinho
ben_vulpes: bitcoinwife
ben_vulpes: bitcoinmom
ben_vulpes: bitcoinbabe
ben_vulpes: bitcoingirl
ben_vulpes: heh and lemme guess
ben_vulpes: <long-day> The activist community LOVES bitcoin bigtime... the two leading female promoters of bitcoin i'm friends with, but they don't know anything about trading. << and what does trading have to do with bitcoin?
ben_vulpes: morelols
ben_vulpes: the feed is a facebook curated thing - not something anyone outside of their revenue extraction machine has any say in.
ben_vulpes: long-day: doesn't mean either that any of those posts make it into the feed.
ben_vulpes: that burning feeling of imitating thy fathers failures.
ben_vulpes: probably the best thing you could do is enter at this low point and then demonstrate the abilit to learn, long-day.