ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: to round off the offspring thread: remember the case of the sea anemone ?
mircea_popescu: We are not ready to talk about what it will do yet. I will only say that when we launched Paybase we did it backwards. We build the software but did not have the financial relationships in place to support our goals (finished and tested deals with card networks, FIAT to crypto licenses, banks fully committed to supporting us, etc)."
ascii_lander assumed that mircea_popescu recognized it from my cam feedz or the like
mircea_popescu: should be just about 1980 there.
mircea_popescu: well then i guess tashkent
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell josh_garza There should be enough information in the past 24 hours in the logs to determine which person with my slave name I am, please pursue legal action over http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/29/what-the-fuck-is-a-hashlet/ please unbored me with civil suit. Would love the chance to become a priority creditor with claims upon your whatever.
ascii_lander: but this is in the realm of 'wat if your mother were aggripina and plotting against you'
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander so you won't entertain this theoretical ?
mircea_popescu: whatever, people get to live their own lives.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes she got a small advance to do some bits of work, turned out she needed more to live off, but it wasn't really enough, she decided that the process which found her the place to stay in the first place couldn't possibly work to keep her in it, and wandered off to meatspace.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: only pointing out that i, for example, would rather eat nagant than raise offspring << suppose pet lets you in on her secret : she's pregnant. what now ?
ben_vulpes: may i inquire as to the terms of that contract?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet << yeah, tell that to poor derpopo.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> i think i can probably manage 1 and 2 << this though is the point
mircea_popescu: but as to the subject of "slaves" : turns out the dea agents exist to go to parties in columbia and steal the stashes of bitcoin the usms was "auctioning"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> this is what this is : the usg has been defeated. << Last I checked Will Smith was still president
ascii_lander: that wall would still be standing if there weren't a 'pepsi' competing reich to poke at it
ascii_lander: the one genuinely convertible wealth
mircea_popescu: heck, the even built a wall!
mircea_popescu: the usg has similarly had all its industry destroyed and is entirely out of money.
ascii_lander: or is the algo 1) get killed messily by usg 2) while camera rolls 3) ??? 4) profit
mircea_popescu: the reich did too.
ascii_lander: for a dead horse, it still gallops rather well.
mircea_popescu: now we are doing the post-war derpage.
mircea_popescu: this is what this is : the usg has been defeated.
ascii_lander: we know from the post-war derpage
ascii_lander: no they weren't
mircea_popescu: who in the reich went "great, now terrorizes 1000 instead of 1"
ascii_lander: it wasn't a public impalement in the proper eurasian tradition
BingoBoingo: Now there are derived metrics ben_vulpes that can be used to score time, value, and Xtreme of party ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander do you suppose the german concentration camps "terrorized" anyone ?
BingoBoingo: The / is a differnet metric ben_vulpes
mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> they love exposure. can terrorize 1000 people instead of 1 << this is false, ftr.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes anyway, the problem of women, by and large, is that they're naturally afraid and most environments encourage this and bring them up cowardly.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: do you want to count the whole day's titration?
ascii_lander knows of no other algos that make any sense for this
mircea_popescu: anyway, the "i'll feed her and we'll see" plan is not really all that bad.
mircea_popescu: so then what's an assperiment ?
ben_vulpes: one does not train daughters in the way one trains wives and girlfriends.
mircea_popescu: i certainly do not propose i am in possession of answers to the world's problems.
ascii_lander: and that attempting them elsewhere may disappoint, like trying to create doped diamond semiconductor in edison's lab
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: the essential thing to realize is that mircea_popescu-ine methods only work with mircea_popescu-ine tech leve
BingoBoingo offers that coyote hindquarters grill out to between 2-3 times the size of roid'd up 'Murican chikken thighs
mircea_popescu: use numerous words rather than have me guess. uh...
ben_vulpes: you tell me, you actually do the binding
ben_vulpes: if whoring is what she's bound to do she'll go into it well knowledgeable of the various optimizations to be made
ascii_lander: williamdunne: pot shots at the police are not compatible with glass-house civilization.
mircea_popescu: fucking shoot them.
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander nothing wrong with the "no knock" warrant. the point of escalation is escalation.
williamdunne: ascii_lander: There cannot be infinite escalation, and I would bet on the police being on the losing end. Shoot first warrants would end up with the neighbours making potshots at the police
ben_vulpes: i suspect the odds are something abhorrent like 1/10 in each event
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do intend to run the assperiment
BingoBoingo: Maybe the beatings were too few?
BingoBoingo: <ben_vulpes> all tech though is learnable << Not to all people. The engineering students who failed at video conferencing as the other part of my pharmacy school TA pairing.
ascii_lander: we will get there.
ascii_lander: williamdunne: … if they think they will be met with a chestful of lead they are going to want a little more compensation for doing their job.. << this is part of the process of how we got the 'no-knock warrant.' the next step is, of course, the 'shoot-first' warrant.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes there's a subtle difference re "young mothers". serenissima is an elective thing. you don't get born into it, quite specifically.
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: 'lazy' is not quite the word. imagine you grew up without ever interacting with cars in any way other than jumping out from under the wheels of a speeding semi every other day.
ben_vulpes: but someday(!) i'll have their ears 'pon me necklace
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: The men bursting through doors are men like any other, if they think they will be met with a chestful of lead they are going to want a little more compensation for doing their job..
mircea_popescu: but by and large im with williamdunne on this : if what it takes to force the usg into abject surrender is turning suburbia into iraq, fucking turn suburbia into iraq.
ben_vulpes: so go out and talk to them!
ascii_lander really does like them
mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> like nuke deterrent. << no, he has a point. the footage is valuable.
mircea_popescu: but by and large these derps are about as needed as any black african from africa.
mircea_popescu: there's really no further point for most of ba's population. alf likes the women, some light industry (cooks, etc) are salavageable,
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: only pointing out that i, for example, would rather eat nagant than raise offspring
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But the cat was saved because shelter it takes on day one of 10 day rotation was occupied on day 9 by a [canine/avian/reptilian] and trespasser was dispatched.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> [01:31] just like the 'best car' << "cultures that do not cherish the young mother perish", and we want this for la serenissima?
ben_vulpes: i suppose implicit is the importing of staff
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no, it does not, because the locals are either mentally retarded or mentally ill.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [01:21] in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/2e4abde700722943b58acc7eb4b2b8a9/tumblr_ncmjn3Ymmz1tmc6gao6_r1_400.gif << i think this is the first mircea_popescu link where the gurl's apparently winning to untrained eyes
ascii_lander: the small moiety sqeaked, purred
ascii_lander: i picked up and played with a small moiety earlier today, in the cemetary
ben_vulpes: you recall the scottish kitten?
BingoBoingo: Oh, kittens didn't die. A -redacted- met the spade
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: But as ascii_lander posed it, the victory is what was killed
trinque: just a derpy key value store where the keys are hashes
BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet << Serenisima protected a cat last week from larger predator...
ben_vulpes: k so research first then, derp about my toolset later
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: there was no serenissima then << even today, serenissima cannot exterminate so much as a case of mice. yet
ben_vulpes: trinque: you should bring the thinger down south
trinque: ben_vulpes: drives a little device I'm fielding to let the kitchens increase prep time on orders
ascii_lander: i learned his name many years ago, shortly after the thing that made him famous. what of it. he wasn't, afaik, lynched
BingoBoingo: bastard file + aluminum can = half of thermite, bastard file + rustocalypse + other half. Triggering is your problem
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: does the name lon horiuchi ring a bell ?
ben_vulpes: and if the things are incredibly low cost and easily hidden, the unknowability of where its deployed makes people start to think multiple times.
ascii_lander: at any rate, if anyone here does not have -some- variant of this in place, now would be the time to make arrangements.
ascii_lander: the only useful application would be to avoid 'nailgunning'
ascii_lander: they love exposure. can terrorize 1000 people instead of 1
ascii_lander: how does ending on on 'youtube' humiliate the thugs?
ben_vulpes: pulling the pin does nothing to humiliate everyone involved.
ascii_lander: i mean, when the battering ram crashes through
ben_vulpes: how would they know though
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: they go after der boxen.
williamdunne: ben_vulpes: Alternatively people need to start shooting so that its too risky for them to continue running into houses
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BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Wisconsin situation had an easier solution... Disclosure when contacted by LeX as per http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/
ben_vulpes: the point is to make it so painfully impossible for this to happent to ordinary mortals that the bastards can't pull this kind of stunt anymore.
ascii_lander: and if you have it, and it isn't obvious, then it doesn't work.
ascii_lander: and l0l, i don't even remember how to program any more (at least in the traditional sense where someone gives you a spec & pays)
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: as i understand there are no programmers here
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Chives that escape containement do not mortally endanger yards in my care, but they interest me.
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander, mircea_popescu: you know, wot solves the buenos aires black market labor problem too
BingoBoingo: recon_eric: Honestly holds as little interest of mine as a zoo animal. Josh is only interesting at the points where he almost touches real persons.
ben_vulpes: hey kakobrekla talk to mike and get the appropriate links dialed into assbot pwetty pwease? eg http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=williamdunne
ascii_lander wonders who will be the first fella to get a 'dear john' telegram while at a trilema meetup
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 09:44:07; cazalla: recon_eric, pretty sure garza was banging amber as well tbh, what with the constant text messages and shit
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 09:41:05; cazalla: williamdunne, maybe they touched swords long ago and recon_eric hoped by eating garza's shit on top of it, he'd keep quiet about that time they, you know, did their thing
recon_eric: Sorry BingoBoingo .... I hope he faces the consequences for his actions. He's still trying to scam more people =\ https://hashtalk.org/topic/36879/paybase-2/2
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Wouldn't it have been grand to have the chance. 10-50k would have been so much rocket fuel on a Bingo-Budget
BingoBoingo: recon_eric: I could have probably saved 10-50k easily from your scamming childhood friend, but then again I may have had to pay taxes...
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: mebbe i shoulda stuck around and been the derp in the room for the second session, but my sugar high from mister_p's icecreamstravaganza'd worn off at that point and all the phrienz had left
ascii_lander wonders how ben_vulpes could have been intimidated by those folks he was wiping the floor with
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: 'the only winning move is not to play' (™) ® 'war games'
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Spare parachutes are always good, but some times you have to plan to win the game of civil court
ben_vulpes: maybe next year i go to the 9pm todos nieveles session
ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> [00:40] (no one owns anything, not even own pathetic carcass) << http://opensourceecology.org/wiki/LifeTrac there is yet hope
mircea_popescu: (ftr i was kind-of chuckling to myself the other day when you were derping about how you want to lead bla bla. you couldn't possibly have been that good, i thought.)
ascii_lander: i went back to $lander to drown in floor there.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the advanced class started ?
ben_vulpes: and after ascii_lander left, ben_vulpes got intimidated off the floor
ascii_lander: when the woman let go
ascii_lander: and after mircea_popescu left, that dude drowned in the floor
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: there is not a spare parachute for the spare parachute of the spare parachute.
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: point was, at some point you trust the parachute
mircea_popescu: this dude was holding on to her arm like he was going to drown i nthe floor
mircea_popescu: btw, i was watching some derps getting in ben_vulpes' way at a milonga today, and omfg are the gringos ridiculous. i dunno if anyone here knows how to tango, but the idea is you drive the woman.
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Implanon and its ilk go into the subcutaneous fat. easily palpated
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: Sure, addressing other positives... easy for partner to verify by light touch of the arm... extended cycle...
mircea_popescu: and it'd appear everywhere except for portland, the cultural notion ofwhat marriage is pretty much is constructed so it won't work.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: if it were brick-in-the-face obvious, folks might notice.
mircea_popescu: the reason zap no more attraction is that people by and large suck, and you don't want to be stuck with them.
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BingoBoingo personally never understood why implanon et al were never more popular than they are
ascii_lander: and so basic pattern is, people marry, and it's time for the offspring, woman goes off the pill, and - zap. no more attraction to the male
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BingoBoingo: Eh, that's what the "Hope Clinic" is for
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander i think there was one, lettuce see
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: the one where women in differing parts of cycle were attracted to proximate histocompatibility-pattern males (prefers 'related' during pregnancy) and distant mhc. during ovulation (prefers 'unrelated' to avoid recessive zap)
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: recall the t-shirt study ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Depends. When I was TA'ing pharm school there was noise that combo pills with estrogen included presented health risks in the form of exciting ER positive breast cancer and "blood clot promotion".
ascii_lander: incidentally, is there a canonical mircea_popescu article re: the pill psycho-reversal thing ?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1106020 << let the permanent record show permanently that i got started "programming" with cnc strange and motoman ladder logic
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo afaik combos are still the bulk used everywhere.
BingoBoingo: trinque: There's so many varieties of chemical called progesterone.
trinque: surely BsAs chicks are on the pill in similar proportions
mircea_popescu: what do they use ?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: My hypothesis is the particular type of birth control pill which is trendy now. Definitely an effect on skin though, more... textured latex look shits the girls between 17-20, rather sudden onset.
ascii_lander: trinque: approximately. except that it's attenuated for the camera
ascii_lander: 'describe the face of an angry dog'
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what they look like before a year of real food
BingoBoingo: This year experimenting with expanding the side gig from lawn mowing to lawn mowing and de-orcing front gardens. liking results so far.
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 00:54:00; ascii_lander: betcha somebody got the traditional 'ransom scam' for instance.
trinque: really depends on the city
ascii_lander: in usa perhaps 1 in 10 20-30y.o. females has the face of a human being, rather than a malignant motorized plastic doll
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 00:35:49; *: BingoBoingo finally filed his annual IRS papers this week. Another 0 tax year.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1105966 << good for you - suck the beast dry
mircea_popescu: there's not actually anything wrong with iodized salt.
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: the thing that blew me away (ben_vulpes saw, but putting it here for the permanent record) was the difference in faces.
ben_vulpes: is propping the market up really doing anyone any favors?
ben_vulpes: ascii_lander: you're plenty familiar with the quality of usa girls
mircea_popescu: more trustworthy brothers to be had among the children of whores than among the children of whatever, "women in tech"
ben_vulpes: you'll find plenty you like from poor parents who accidentally got all the nutrition they need
ben_vulpes: well a) your taste in girlie lineage isn't relevant to the discussion
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:28:57; mircea_popescu: but for the record : the case for dosing women, especially the sort likely to have kids unexpectedly (young, addicted, poor) and the sort likely to be depleted (oyung, addicted, poor) is extremely compelling.
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 19:07:48; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105868 << i think it's time the republic starts oppressing teh jews like any real country. how about, forcing them to add a slice of black forest cake to the seder.
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: in a country where apparently no one shoots recreationally, these were peculiar sights
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 18:53:58; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105803 << because they don't know how to use email. a) they top answer ; b) they add all that signature spam.
ben_vulpes: perhaps i even stay for something past the ceremonial pre-sunset whiskeys next year too
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo would appreciate the fella who was selling, among many other things of this flavour: the back half of a Luger.
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 17:16:05; pete_dushenski: "Susannah Heschel, a well-known Jewish feminist scholar, was introduced to an early feminist Haggadah that suggested adding a crust of bread on the seder plate, as a sign of solidarity with Jewish lesbians (which was intended to convey the idea that there’s as much room for a lesbian in Judaism as there is for a crust of bread on the seder plate)."
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105859 << imma troll the fam with this next year
assbot: Logged on 21-04-2015 17:14:27; pete_dushenski: and lemme guess, the oldest people in the room asked the four questions instead of the youngest
ascii_lander contemplates the tech level of the junk stores. grew up an orc, yes, but i never touched a fucking gramophone
ben_vulpes: another night of tango at least
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu have not, i'm guessing that it's going on the list though!
pete_dushenski: "Furthermore, she has retarded reactions to murder. Murder is a fact of life. It's what healthy, adult men do, exactly as much and exactly the same as having babies is what healthy, adult women do. Her reaction to murder is akin to current day bois' reaction to birth, you'd think the sky just fell over." << closest i came to digging up an 'explanation of murder' via http://trilema.com/2013/la-strada/
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: of course they have to be organized, l0l. as you can see, even basic whore can see radiation damage from a cannon-shot's distance.
mircea_popescu: the weirdest prt being that what, you actually have to organize columbian prostitutes to fuck gringos now ?
mircea_popescu: Trey Gowdy of South Carolina asked, What would it take to get fired at the DEA? The DEA agents I used to work with were worried about using their cars to pick up dry-cleaning.
mircea_popescu: During an appearance before the House Oversight Committee on April 14, Leonhart faced aggressive questioning over the punishment imposed on agents who were found to be engaging in sex parties in Colombia with prostitutes that were funded by drug cartels. Expressing displeasure that the agents were given suspensions of between two and 10 days and did not lose their positions or security clearance, Republican Rep.
ascii_lander: (the thing where everything -has- to be explained/ratiocinated is a disease of modernity, aha)
mircea_popescu: teh lion does not go into song after lightening the lioness' load.
mircea_popescu: the alternative is nothing. murder's not something to be explained.
ascii_lander: as in, perspective of reasonable thought outside of the trauma
ascii_lander: what'd be the, alternatively, trauma-surgeon-logic ?
BingoBoingo makes first mint julep of the year with yard mint
mircea_popescu: "SHYLOCK: Till thou canst rail the seal from off my bond, thou but offend'st thy lungs to speak so loud: repair thy wit, good youth, or it will fall to cureless ruin. I stand here for law."
mircea_popescu: until you can rail the seal from off my bond...
mircea_popescu: if some "public interest" however defines "exceeds" however defined my pleasure at cutting the bankrupt's heart, what of it ?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: it is the logic of hunger. or, more to the point, of thirst. what is the logic of a stranded sailor deciding to drink sea water ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no, just, the approach is meaningless. who cares what outweighs what.
mircea_popescu: all the derps pushing gaw, for instance, neglected proper causes of action because of their retarded dreams as to the future.
mircea_popescu: it's squarely irrelevant "where this leads". lead it where it may, do it or don't do it on some basis other than you know, "expectations".
ascii_lander sat for a while in the tango place after mircea_popescu and hanbot went home, and reread favourite parts in ben_vulpes's copy of 'asylum', and contemplated lessons thereof
ascii_lander: but others, aha
ascii_lander: rawls being the most well-known offender here
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander the idea that you can calculate the sum-value-in-the-future for alternative courses of actions and pick like you pick an investment
ascii_lander: it is like saying that meteorite does not work. for the man whose head it falls on - it 'worked.'
mircea_popescu: "it cant possibly outweigh the interests of " etc
pete_dushenski: the 're-write'
mircea_popescu: it's been amply documented and vastly shown to not work, one's probably better served by reading the past three centuries of various attempts.
mircea_popescu: anyway, this entire discussion of interests and bs... i dunno that there's any value in trying to re-write the protestant ethics-as-capitalism.
BingoBoingo: I have seem a great many short flat citronella candle in tin leave the bounds of the picnic table in the backyard due to those masked bandits
mircea_popescu: monkeys do not, either. they eventually learn to, but if you watch it specifically, the difference is striking.
ascii_lander: one grabbed me at the old cemetary just today
mircea_popescu: for one thing, they grab.
BingoBoingo: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/21/michele_leonhart_resigns_dea_head_steps_down_after_prostitution_scandal.html << Mega lol, leaving when the opportunity for side income dries
mircea_popescu: anyway, this "natural" thing... shitting in the bed is also natural. something being natural offers little ethical indication.
ascii_lander: what is the 'value' of being dragged behind a truck until nothing remains on the rope but a small flap of skin ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i guess i'm still wondering why the 'making sense' equation has women leading and men following
ascii_lander: how do you even comment on the 'value' of something which pretty much no one has anything like a reasonable reason to want.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski that's like the value of god.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: whatchatalkingabout, works great. just like the 'noncomputers' running my knives, forks, shoes work great.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu towards the value of a child, particularly if handicapped
ascii_lander: just like the 'best car'