ascii_pulsar: they crunch, crunch.
Pierre_Rochard: pete_dushenski: haha yes, but this non-biologist doesn’t see why not! seems like the ideal controlled experiment machine
pete_dushenski: ascii_countdown 'it's the final countdown'
pete_dushenski: "Delvoye stated that everything in modern life is pointless. The most useless object he could create was a machine that serves no purpose at all, besides the reduction of food to waste." << these intellectually poor artists and their purposes.
ascii_launchpad: (from when it was mostly clear, to dijkstra et al that -this- would come, to, well, when the symptoms became impossible to ignore for anyone half awake)
ascii_launchpad: no one can carry water in buckets within order of magnitude of how quickly the flames spread.
ascii_launchpad: it is the whole definition of such a collapse, actually.
mircea_popescu: there's about ten square miles of packaging needlework that needs doing, and the doers are all derping about consent or some stupid shit like that.
mircea_popescu: women in tech really dropped the fucking ball.
mircea_popescu: software itself runs great, packaging is the shit.
ascii_launchpad: mircea_popescu: actually gentoo failed (in the usual sense of the word) long ago when its head dev sold soul to microshit
ascii_launchpad wonders how many of these 'beautiful surprises' it would take to make mircea_popescu a candidate for same nuthouse as ascii_launchpad
mircea_popescu: motherfucker.
mircea_popescu: Alternatively, a repository configuration can be added manually without installing the nginx-release package. Create the file named /etc/yum.repos.d/nginx.repo with the following contents:
mircea_popescu: get that final link in there.
trinque: ascii_launchpad: lol, no $maxint in there boss
mircea_popescu: You can start that process by grabbing the repository:
ascii_launchpad: there is to be a solution to this
mircea_popescu: people who finely cultivate women do not have the time to spend on cultivating boxes.
ascii_launchpad: 'Feels like downloading Windows shareware in the 90s to me.' << l0l aha. pretty much everything but a very finely cultivated gentoo or bsd box feels like ^
mircea_popescu: the web is so fulla win.
ascii_launchpad has not the faintest idea how to install it today
ascii_launchpad: rather than, e.g., satisfying a dung beetle
ascii_launchpad: 'To build Apache Bigtop, you apparently first have to install puppet3. Let it download magic data from the internet. Then it tries to run sudo puppet to enable the NSA backdoors (for example, it will download and install an outdated precompiled JDK, because it considers you too stupid to install Java.) And then hope the gradle build doesn't throw a 200 line useless backtrace.' << when do we set the biodiesel boilers
ascii_launchpad: wish i still had the link.
ascii_launchpad: 'Consider for example Hadoop. Nobody seems to know how to build Hadoop from scratch.' << no one knows how to recreate a turd 'from scratch' either. though, there was this one 'art installation' fella who tried. had whole synthetic digestion apparatus, looked sorta like a small pharma pilot plant
mircea_popescu: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 22:21:59; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the fact that the imbeciles commenting on that thing stupid shite like "you make a poor assumption that the NSA or whoever couldn't also add backdoors and other such snoop to the source code base, so when you compile it yourself, you are compiling the NSA right in. Yes it would be more difficult, because the maintainers should be watching, but if they've been forced into it, would you even
ascii_launchpad was -of course- put by cabbie at the, ahm, wrong terminal, had to do a bit of gymnastics
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/3fac4807ca5528d300aef1e091faba94/tumblr_ne22qsZETK1slq74qo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: welll... suppose they both win
BingoBoingo: Nah, but you get lines like "When we were sending around a draft of the standards document, what I said to everybody was, hey, read this really closely, because what you do when you publish standards, is that you make Gawker your public editor. Sure, well be looking for [violations of standards internally][but] youve got all of Twitter, and youve got Gawker. So I have really little to complain about, in some sense. Do
BingoBoingo: http://tktk.gawker.com/ben-smith-and-jonah-peretti-the-gawker-interview-1699230890/+trotter << Cripple fight
lobbes: naw I don't think they linked to qntra directly, just funny that they did the same scoop a month after us
mircea_popescu: i meant in the coinreport thing
lobbes: to the qntra version? tis here: http://qntra.net/2015/03/missouri-secretary-of-state-orders-slaughter-to-pay-civil-penalties/
mircea_popescu: n grate as much as the dude using disqus.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes the fact that the imbeciles commenting on that thing stupid shite like "you make a poor assumption that the NSA or whoever couldn't also add backdoors and other such snoop to the source code base, so when you compile it yourself, you are compiling the NSA right in. Yes it would be more difficult, because the maintainers should be watching, but if they've been forced into it, would you even know?" doesn't eve
ben_vulpes: artifexd: well that sets it apart from all of the other crypto libs ascii_lander was going on about over coffee today
artifexd: I would prefer not to use the word "audit" as that implies I am qualified to do so.
artifexd: I have my own fork of the code that has signed commits.
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 21:39:33; mircea_popescu: maybe this is what asciilifeform has to do in hell. build all the shit.
mircea_popescu: and as far as the retarded look goes, http://36.media.tumblr.com/ae9008632a0a1e630226461f386eeabc/tumblr_neoysg91fJ1s9yfq0o1_500.jpg
ascii_lander: trinque: if not i, then next soldier.
lobbes: I'm five years late, but I just read these. I wish an alf-machine existed: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=284
mircea_popescu: also in the news : joggers live for 6 years longer than non joggers
mircea_popescu: in other news... privilege http://33.media.tumblr.com/b1e1634e7529aab4aceba8767fe8d157/tumblr_nmqjw95Chn1t0np38o1_500.gif
mircea_popescu: or, in the words of tiffany, "Who cares if the security let u do this it doesn't mean u should have done it"
mircea_popescu: But then, everything got Windows-ized. "Apps" were the rage, which you download and run, without being concerned about security, or the ability to upgrade the application to the next version. Because "you only live once".
mircea_popescu: Back then, years ago, Linux distributions were trying to provide you with a safe operating system. With signed packages, built from a web of trust. Some even work on reproducible builds.
mircea_popescu: maybe this is what asciilifeform has to do in hell. build all the shit.
jurov: android can be battery drained by the same way, but at least i was able to turn wifi off
assbot: Wi-Fi hack creates 'no iOS zone' that cripples iPhones and iPads | Technology | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Del6dQ )
funkenstein_: in other news today
funkenstein_: ok then, i am going to take a closer look
funkenstein_: <mircea_popescu> and then $ gpg --keyserver sks-keyservers.net --send-key <KEYID> and $ gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --send-key <KEYID> where keyid you just copy from the line above. <-- what about those three letters showing up here?
mircea_popescu: (i dun imagine anyone seriously deluded themselves into the belief that mit's involvement is going to disuade anyone one ; i do imagine mit thought itself large enough to absorb the shock and not end up like mtgox as a result - which is just as silly, but not necessarily visible from boston)
mircea_popescu: anyway, b-a vs mit is a lot better than b-a vs some scammer's fake "foundation". we're going up in the world.
mircea_popescu: anwyay, yeah, people were derping about hoiw forcing usg to assume its assets is "bad" and the foundation pretense was somehow "better"
mike_c: "I’m offering MIT as a neutral academic home for some of the conversations and the technical coordination"
funkenstein_: much better viewing without the light pollution of course but one takes what one can get
funkenstein_: anybody catch a look at the LMC from buenos aires?
mats: looks like someone has been reading the logs...
mats: "MIT is no longer the hallowed Library of Alexandria that shared the Lisp Machine and SICP with the world. Today, its made up of showmen and fools like Gavin, who endeavor to destroy software they don't understand, on behalf of a handler. Your relevance fades, and in a decade your cohorts will disavow any knowledge of you. Enjoy your faux relevancy as long
assbot: GavinTech: Joining the MIT Media Lab Digital Currency Initiative ... ( http://bit.ly/1yT2R2K )
mircea_popescu: <Pierre_Rochard> vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html << merely usg being forced to assume its minions.
Pierre_Rochard: > presents “About” in a series of pdf documents http://www.media.mit.edu/about/about-the-lab
Pierre_Rochard: davout: perhaps bruce fenton will find a wealthy sheikh to revive this particular abomination. They have wasted their oil wealth in worse ways
Pierre_Rochard: from their forums: “As of 4/15/15 total cash less current liabilities was ~$75K.”
lobbes: Hell, it is like a sin to have a good guitar instrumental these days. And I could never get into 'metal'; too much speed, not enough soul
lobbes: <davout> from the time guitar heroes were actually guitar heroes << all you need these days is to know three chords and have a pretty face.
Pierre_Rochard: Next on the chopping block: MIT
assbot: GavinTech: Joining the MIT Media Lab Digital Currency Initiative ... ( http://bit.ly/1PiDJWV )
Pierre_Rochard: vessenes fundation burned to the ground: http://gavintech.blogspot.com/2015/04/joining-mit-media-lab-digital-currency.html
davout: from the time guitar heroes were actually guitar heroes
ben_vulpes: how did they get django into a memory forensics tool?
ascii_lander: (why need the gui, don't ask me...)
ascii_lander: mats: looka quite like the ubiquitous 'volatility'
ben_vulpes: http://www.vitavonni.de/blog/201503/2015031201-the-sad-state-of-sysadmin-in-the-age-of-containers.html << lotsa yup
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: if we don't run across each other today, i might have it sent to your room
ascii_lander: will check #b-a a few times b/w now and then
mircea_popescu: "Im not going to make this about the so-called hacker who is responsible for the list, claiming he did it to prove a point about the safety of Fetlifes members. Attention is what the douchebag wants and I refuse to give it to him. Now, did he breach Fetlife as hes claimed? Of course not. That takes a skill he lacks."
assbot: Futures Trader Charged with Illegally Manipulating Stock Market, Contributing to the May 2010 Market ‘Flash Crash’ | OPA | Department of Justice ... ( http://bit.ly/1DAo3pE )
mircea_popescu: how do you encrypt a posting today to the key of future readers ?
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/04/theymos-complies-with-yet-another-subpoena/#comment-19355 << Morning lols
BingoBoingo probably should have waited until later in the year to start making juleps with yard mint.
mircea_popescu: "so what's your excuse then"
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> pretty much all the derpternet is good for these days is this sort of unintentional self-humour crit > 9000 << Aha, you've hit the funniest part. The self described peaks of physical fitness can observe the fat logic, but are nearly incapable of realizing most of them are entirely unsocialized. Lulz on both sides.
mircea_popescu: a fleet of zeppelins needs no further lift.
mircea_popescu: " Unsurprisingly, this level of (motherly) indulgence and (fatherly) neglect had produced a girl whose sense of worth was so over-inflated it could lift a fleet of Zeppelins."
mircea_popescu: not like there's a shortage.
mircea_popescu: i dunno dood, lift the washington monument, realign jupiter, fill the mariane gap, cover the usg deficit
mircea_popescu: pretty much all the derpternet is good for these days is this sort of unintentional self-humour crit > 9000
mircea_popescu: "a girl whose sense of worth was so over-inflated it could lift a fleet of Zeppelins." yeah, totally. this is probably the iconic reddit comment. what, buoyancy ? words are words and the world consists of pictures. blips are big, so this simile works!
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, they hold whoring against the man that does it but not in favour of the man that doesn't do it ? ball beatings already.
mircea_popescu: which i suppose makes me the perfect storm of a horribru father (as per reddit) : the cross between "absent and physically abusive military father." and "coke snorting, random hooker banging, land development dealing father."
mircea_popescu: cuz i suspect this is the deep reason asciilifeform doesn't want offspring. i tell you if the 19 yo snot that imagines he's better than me (like you know, every single fuctkared 19 yo snot "being famous in the bitcoin community" etc that we see here periodically bubble up his idiocy and then six months later fail abjectly and disappear) actually grew up in my house, i'd shoot it to death with blunt toothpicks.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck would it take for these idiots to think their parents ~their superiors~ ?
mircea_popescu: but the kicker : the other family is a successful man and his ambitious wife. THIS IS ALSO NOT GOOD.
mircea_popescu: viva la reddit, but at least learn teh fucking rhetorics, rather than deluge the interwebs in chicken scribblings.
mircea_popescu: now why exactly would someone decide that their home life is miserable ? oh, because that's how fucktarded adolescents think. okay.
mircea_popescu: you know, if THAT woman had an equally uncharitable view of the speaker, he'd probably read "good for almost nothing but shitting diapers idiot"
mircea_popescu: then one's family is a military man and his pliable wife. but no, not for shithead. "B&P (Booze&Pills) : Ahabs good for almost nothing, rehab bound mother. Major Asshole : Ahabs equally absent and physically abusive military father."
mircea_popescu: so, a guy and his best friend. ok, this happens. they're friends for the usual stupid reasons : lived nearby, and never contradicted each other.
assbot: Logged on 22-04-2015 06:36:01; ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/2oujsf/the_saga_of_the_great_white_land_whale_part_1/ << what have you done
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-04-2015#1107076 << the one thing that seems remarkable to me about the otherwise illiterate prose typical of rettardit is, just how desocialised these people are.
davout: kakobrekla: out of curiosity, how are the OTP hashes computed?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell cazalla there are worse ways to spend a few hours and also better but few with comprable lulzdensity
ben_vulpes: dude this is 100x better than the gaw shit
ben_vulpes: stuff them into her mouth. The anger drained out of GTS, to be replaced by disbelief and disgust, as she stood there watching JLW eat floor pizza.
ben_vulpes: GTS managed to get a grip on the box, which sent JLW into a Fat-Fury™ frenzy of incoherant screaming and flailing limbs. One of which smacked GTS right in the face, causing her to spill the remaining slices all over the ground. Her fist clenched as her arm drew back and I knew nothing would stop her from punching JLW right in the face. Except JLW was already on the ground, desperately trying to
assbot: The Saga of The Great White Land Whale - Part 1 : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1FdfmXE )
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/2oujsf/the_saga_of_the_great_white_land_whale_part_1/ << what have you done
ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> ben_vulpes this especially is written for you ^ compadre. << d'you know how far forward i look to the ancient stone warehouse of garbage that must be cleared by hand?!
ben_vulpes: and the cadence of speech you employ when forced to beat sense into such as me
ben_vulpes: ascii_* has a /way/ of saying it that must be seen for the grokking
ben_vulpes: an example'd be the "kick-ass" utterance.
mircea_popescu: the flavour
ben_vulpes: or the flavor of utterances?
ben_vulpes: am rather pleased with my progress.
ben_vulpes: swore shortly thereafter to claw my way out of potentially lethal and unremunerative work.
mircea_popescu: i've done neither. i've also not laid eggs, nor have i been a steel girder to "see what it's like" for rebar.
ben_vulpes: little do they know that the episcopalians dragged me through this particular gutter as a youth and cemented my opinions of the subhumans.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck cares what "life is like" ?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/ << myeah, if average donor had an idea what the beneficiaries are like, they'd donate warm lead. << folks frequently exhort me to "donate time at redacted house", to see what life is like for these people.
ben_vulpes: <ascii_lander> morphs into these when parking's tight << i imagine a special flat where he relaxes into his final chthonian form
BingoBoingo: Content is basically the same
BingoBoingo: seriously /r/fatpeoplestories is the only readable /r/
assbot: The Day I Realized I Officially Can’t Stand Nilla Wafer : fatpeoplestories ... ( http://bit.ly/1bsZepN )
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/33flsl/the_day_i_realized_i_officially_cant_stand_nilla/
ascii_lander: horror or 'go go' depends on which side of the guernica you're sitting on
BingoBoingo: Now understands the horror
ascii_lander: but important to keep a handle on the picture.
ascii_lander: now, the cat-b-a is still lightyears ahead of, e.g., wash., d.c.
ascii_lander: they are, one might correctly presume, somewhat different places.
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: but to put things in perspective: you and i won't be moving to the b-a mircea_popescu, hanbot, mthreat et al live in
BingoBoingo offers screening towns by when they got rid of breaking wheel in town square
ascii_lander will disappoint the cannibals. hasn't much of any use to anyone
ascii_lander isn't in their wot, expects to be killed for supplies
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander as the tango dancer put it, "the man pushes so the woman knows to spread her legs and let him get in"
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: as prepared as the next schmuck
mircea_popescu: hunting the image. "were friendly". as if the appearance of friendliness is worth two shits.
mircea_popescu: Sometimes I give an extra item to people I especially dislike, or go out of my way to compliment them. Many people, given a chance, will be friendly, even if they're often quick to anger/lash out otherwise."
mircea_popescu: "I'll post this in my next story, but a line said by a lady I very much admire that has stuck with me: "Those who are the least likeable are also the most in need of your help."
ascii_lander: (one appeared to go 4 stories down, and then to water)
ascii_lander: if you add up the levels
mircea_popescu: still begging for that one beating that'd have sorted them out.
mircea_popescu: it's basically, the same children that needed to be beaten 50 years ago,
mircea_popescu: "And on through eeeeeevery item. "I'm just gunna take two milks." "No, you aren't, unless that second milk is worth being thrown out of this food bank." And on. And on. Really, people end up with several bags of food anyway. Provided they take the "wimmin food" like fruit and peanut butter."
ascii_lander: as with any thermodynamic atrocity, this one is maintained at tremendous expense.
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: as it is, the warm lead (and jizzm) is donated by the beneficiaries, not vice-versa
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/32ze1v/working_in_a_food_bank_i_am_a_useless_piece_of/ << myeah, if average donor had an idea what the beneficiaries are like, they'd donate warm lead.
ascii_lander: at other times, normal zeppelin
ascii_lander: morphs into these when parking's tight
ascii_lander notes for folks who missed the 'fool's gasout' thread that: atomic dirigible isn't 'money'
mircea_popescu: <ascii_lander> 'respekt the wurkerz' ? << basically.
ascii_lander: without it - dig in mud, with other ants
mircea_popescu: ascii_lander attached, sure. doesn't prevent one making more. there's a line between attachment and mania.
ascii_lander: 'respekt the wurkerz' ?
BingoBoingo: Mizzou only needed one big fire to get big ruins that are still the campus centerpiece
BingoBoingo hopes ascii_lander lives long enough to see burned out ruins on the U Maryland campus nearly as glamorous as I saw at MIssou
BingoBoingo: The brewing Chicom problem
ascii_lander: (because, elementarily, was full of unattached young men. who understood their proper natural function, that of kamikaze)
ascii_lander: but scarcely anywhere else among the camps
ascii_lander: consider why there was successful uprising at treblinka
ascii_lander: and then hostages
ascii_lander: offspring are still a liability, because one might conceivably grow attached to them
BingoBoingo: <ascii_lander> until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure) << I only worry because I've pointed local orcs to qntra posts
BingoBoingo: ANd of course there is US-50
ascii_lander: until then, it's 'yi yi zhi yi' (orc incursions organized by usg for own pleasure)
BingoBoingo: The StL varietal has a history of burning buildings to sell bricks to Atlanta and Florida subdivisions
ascii_lander: various streets can be distinguished as 'permissible for orc burn' or not, to the naked eye
BingoBoingo: ascii_lander: But now they have a local injury. Does your foot get red when your thigh has an abcese?
ascii_lander: waiting for the wildfire that never came
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: they were in d.c. proper, during ferguson proper
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: mostly in the past
ascii_lander: as mentioned to hanbot in the sushi place
BingoBoingo: just... Ferguson style protestors when they can't hang the cops become a regional blight.
ascii_lander: ben_vulpes: they have… turf
ben_vulpes: lol ascii_lander they don't have stands
BingoBoingo: You'd be surprised how far out of the Urban core a 'Ferguson' affects a certain subspecies of Homo Spaniens.
ascii_lander: BingoBoingo: i don't do much movement on foot there, at any rate
BingoBoingo: Your region jsut recently had a ferguson. Pick up a jerzy of a darker baseball player and wear it when transiting dark places. Embrace the foreigner card.
ascii_lander hasn't been there in a good long while.
ascii_lander: see the fishes.
ascii_lander: i wander in there on occasion
ascii_lander: 'you nothing but a fast cpu, useless for anything else' he said to the pentium
ascii_lander: 'He does, but as he's walking out the door, he yells his parting words loudly enough for half the food bank to hear, "YOU NOTHIN BUT A SEXY PIECE OF ASS. USELESS FOR ANYTHING ELSE. JUST A USELESS, SEXY PIECE OF ASS."'
BingoBoingo: It's slammed to the right, too late
ascii_lander: but yes, mircea_popescu can feel victorious, l0l, he satisfied the system of simultanous equations which point to a solution, far from physical space, where i'd want offsprint.
ascii_lander: there probably liveth somebody who could see pretty well with mine on
BingoBoingo: Middle west isn't so bad other than Ohio and Kansas
ascii_lander: the only formula i'd sign up for is mircea_popescu's gynacaeum
trinque: I dunno that I'd want to raise a kid there
trinque: to be fair, the east coast is pretty dystopian
ascii_lander: none of it seems the least bit applicable to my actual meatengineering constraints
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ascii_lander: but at any rate, we can play the unobtainium game, great phun. yes, if had starship, would travel to proxima centauri, would xxxxx, yyyy.
mircea_popescu: this should be a play, if we got any playwrights in the audience :D
ascii_lander: then clearly.
ascii_lander: for the sake of phyooture(tm)
mircea_popescu: and then later you figure out you murdered turing for being gay and are all regretful and gotta poke out your eyes ?
mircea_popescu: but alf, what if they happen to excel at something you just don't happen to recognize as a thing ?
assbot: Logged on 16-02-2014 22:04:18; asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don't drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won't have to do any work but to dip them'
mircea_popescu: that'd be one hell of a murder trial. "why did you kill your own children!!11" "they... weren't all that impressive"
ascii_lander: let's the dirigible too
ascii_lander: but to get back the unobtainium - aha, gynacaeum, sure
ascii_lander: if they are a waste of oxygen
mircea_popescu: what if it comes with their ability to shoot you ?
mircea_popescu: is the contention here that you'd get fired it word got out that you and three women are raising two children or something ?
ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: recall the 'fool's gasout' thread ?
ascii_lander: 'greatest country in the wurld
ascii_lander: on the dial - derpistan.
ascii_lander: but that isn't on the dial, aha
ascii_lander: where's the fucking dotted line to sign, l0l
mircea_popescu: you know, it's not written in the fucking repository of thermodynamic laws you have to raise your children like the retarded americans.
ascii_lander: or mircea_popescu's essay about his father
ascii_lander: 'The juvenile sea squirt wanders through the sea searching for a suitable rock or hunk of coral to cling to and make its home for life. For this task, it has a rudimentary nervous system. When it finds its spot and takes root, it doesn't need its brain anymore, so it eats it! It's rather like getting tenure.'
mircea_popescu: wasn't he derping about how the coin can't go under, financial relationships, etc ?