mircea_popescu: if violence worked, the situation wouldn't be stable currently.
williamdunne: Because if more people are able to keep their funds away from government tendrils, it seems like it would do more damage than a few. While a few people have a lot of money to hide, a lot of people can be turned against them (i.e "evil tax avoiders") and violence works
mircea_popescu: so then why wopuld it hold up here.
williamdunne: bitcoin doesn't take over through convincing random fuckwit of "more benefits". bitcoin takes over by raping the state. permanently. <<< See, I totally agree with this. But this is why I think that there should be bigger blocks (not Gavin's proposal, but statically bigger). Easier to rape the state surely if its less inconvenient and more people can do so
mircea_popescu: then OboombaIII is more than welcome to use all his cards for all the benefits he wants, whatever they may be. it won't be food, but hey, a rich life of the mind doth not require material contraptions.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin doesn't take over through convincing random fuckwit of "more benefits". bitcoin takes over by raping the state. permanently.
mircea_popescu: "Another part is a distributed marketplace for dispute resolution based on smart contracts."
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: It is amazing how much more productive the conversation gets when discussing logistics of dating sites instead of derping over bans
mircea_popescu: so fucking stupid this. who the shit would enter into a contract with justus ranvier and why exactly ?
davout: obviously hearn concludes that it's really necessary to push the block size
davout: and now, hearn and him are stuck derping at how micro-payments and smart contracts would have prevented the whole thing
BingoBoingo: Grindr's the one dicks use to find nearby dicks
BingoBoingo: On the typical USian dating site, gender matters. Other than on grinder the dating site will rarely ever have a shortage of dicks.
davout: "Are you sure the reason you assume the admin was correct is because the admin was paid, and not because of the genders of the involved parties?"
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for Naphex from 2 to 3 with note: Knows his shit, and willing to share it
Naphex: you use binarySearch with a Time-Price to find the insertion point for your order. Thus your list/map will always be sorted
williamdunne: davout: Haven't looked to much at the architecture of that yet, but you're right
davout: and if you can't there's really not that much point in writing something really fast
Naphex: williamdunne: and with binary insert it can do a lot more then tha
davout: you can spread order acceptation, and trade settlement, just not the matching
williamdunne: davout: Well for example, the Java one that I wrote can match 160k/s when pumping in random data directly. But when we add the overheads for actually accepting and handling orders from customers it will not do close to that
Naphex: williamdunne: the good option is to hire the right people and develop an engine according to your infrastrucutre and needs
davout: williamdunne: not really, if the theoretical number is that different from the actual one, you have a problem
Naphex: williamdunne: anyway trading engines are not that hard to write, they do require some experience to get right.
williamdunne: davout: Isn't the point that the in-theory number is about an order of magnitude higher than what it can handle when in actual use
davout: yep, because you know, what's really needed and important is that they're able to match 1m orders/s instead a meager 10k orders/s
mircea_popescu: so many of them, made with an apparent firm conviction that somehow they'll bring recognition...
mircea_popescu: in the bitcoin space, "matching engines" are the equivalent of crusted socks in adolescent boys' bedrooms.
mircea_popescu: <davout> williamdunne: some dudes made some code for a matching engine, not really noteworthy << actually it's the most oversupplied intem in stock.
davout: Naphex: there's this mono thing by miguel de icaza iirc, no idea if it's still a thing tho
davout: also they claim to have sunk $100k in the development, but somehow they're opensourcing it now, because incorporating somewhere else than russia isn't practical...
mircea_popescu: davout hey, did fetlife break their signup process ?
mircea_popescu: unsurprisingly, it was the silk road judge.
kakobrekla: the current interface does not allow for it
kakobrekla: wait i need to edit the ratings ?
mircea_popescu: i might be the only one left doing things this way, but afaik the way is, you give the woman a task. she either does it or doesn't.
cazalla: just imagine 6 months later and he's ready to ask her out and she says no.. total melt down instead of moving on to the next one 6 months prior
cazalla: he actually took a few days off of okcupid because of it.. "Naturally, I reported that conversation for abusive behaviour and I took a break from the site for a few days because frankly I was not expecting that and was a bit shaken from the experience."
mircea_popescu: anyway, the differences between me and justusranvier dude are amusing. fetlife vs okcupid, the locus of butthurt, etc.
mircea_popescu: protip : don't use platforms. they're bad for you.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:18:03; asciilifeform: jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112256 here: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/atom/
mircea_popescu: broadly speaking, anything without the lego quality is not a real thing, but a toy. that's what the "no user serviceable parts inside" sticker communicates to the world : this is not a tool, this is a toy.
mircea_popescu: a laptop is a toy, like a phone or a xbox, something kids that aren't smart enough / rich enough to own computers get for xmas from their weird uncles.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes "If Macintosh laptops (long held up as the gold standard of quality in personal computing) " << nobody ever held a laptop as an acceptable form of personal computing. let alone any sort of standard.
mircea_popescu: lmao c3 drove a secession in the us across east/west lines ?! who knew that thing's so brittle and easily fractured.
mircea_popescu: also i find the idea that various things have different webs of trust silly. yes, idiots use meat wots. this is exactly how aristotle's "no politics is your politics" thing went. otherwise, the wot's for all things.
mircea_popescu: because nobody knows about computer parts quite like the people doing procurement for a datacenter. so if you run your own metal and sublet to people, you're in the best position to learn these exactly.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 09:19:38; mircea_popescu: !rate TheButterZone 1 Dude got a scary whisper.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes / asciilifeform : re "build an exhaustive knowledge of every company that has ever made computer parts and an exhaustive understanding of which parts were made well and not at which point in time." << the correct approach to this is to do what mp has been saying needs doing for ages and start a bitcoin hoster.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:58:31; Adlai: reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112293 << on one end. on the other end, it has the advantage that it can allow *everyone* to pretend like they're part of the conversation. here people know nobody is listening to them, because they have no voice. on facebook/reddit/etc, every idiot can pretend that he's being heard because he can read himself and so why not.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:57:05; EllieAsksWhy: I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112289 << the website thing never made any sense. nor was it supposed to i guess. this wot is "like" the old gpg/pgp wot, yes.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:51:55; asciilifeform: in the sense of with sufficient lsd everything is quite like everything else ?
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 03:47:35; EllieAsksWhy: I am still not convinced that Blythe Masters is truly a "master" of derivatives. She seems more like an investment banker/ figurehead.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112276 << to quote, "asciilifeform the Anglos have a historic problem, in that they never invented политрукs."
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for TheButterZone with note: Dude got a scary whisper.
mircea_popescu: !v assbot:mircea_popescu.rate.TheButterZone.1:011ae86d5de58325aca2aacc80b2f6459687dba7e0e50f9db83605b7c77ba1ef
mircea_popescu: !rate TheButterZone 1 Dude got a scary whisper.
assbot: You have not rated TheButterZone.
mircea_popescu: !rated TheButterZone
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: i knew it was close-ish but i suppose there's even some overlap
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: didja know that an iphone is just about cost-even with the low end macbook airs?
ben_vulpes: "Minaj pulled out of Hot 97’s Summer Jam after a DJ criticized Roman’s smash EDM-styled single “Starships” as something other than “real hip-hop.” Lil Wayne and the rest of Young Money canceled their performance at the show as well, in solidarity." << heh.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell jurov ah yes, that's a niggle that's been bugging me too. thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell mircea_popescu what have we started! watch this become the next big reddit meme.
Vexual: no, i wasnt awake then'
ben_vulpes: anyways what are you doing watching the hang seng - make anything off that pop at the open?
Vexual: musta rode the hang seng this morn, figured it's time to bitcoin
EllieAsksWhy: I will peruse. Y'all will probably be amused by this, but I tried to get myself here by getting an account at one of those bitcoin gambling sites, Satoshi Dice or such. I thought that if I could get an ID there, I could figure out how to use it as a
EllieAsksWhy: Hah, hah re "The proxy links became a thing to discourage people from dropping honeypot links to harvest home ips to DoS". This isn't a good place for Blythe Masters.
EllieAsksWhy: Adlai, this is a lovely description "directed acyclic graphs. you'll notice the logs include lots of disjoint conversations, peppered with links to previous messages, themselves including links to previous messages... nonlinearity is the norm"
BingoBoingo: EllieAsksWhy: The proxy links became a thing to discourage people from dropping honeypot links to harvest home ips to DoS
EllieAsksWhy: Daniel, I'm sorry, I'm being too diffuse. Disregard that, I can explain further later.
Adlai: EllieAsksWhy: actually directed acyclic graphs. you'll notice the logs include lots of disjoint conversations, peppered with links to previous messages, themselves including links to previous messages... nonlinearity is the norm
BingoBoingo: EllieAsksWhy: The bit.ly links are the links people put in channel, but with a free proxy service
EllieAsksWhy: Ah, I see. Dogs. With a crufty accent they become dogs :) Are smileys okay here? I interject them a lot.
assbot: Logged on 27-04-2015 04:02:15; EllieAsksWhy: I'm sorry, I'll try to calm down and be more linear. I have never had the opportunity to actually talk about any of this stuff with anyone. I only read about things on my own.
Adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-04-2015#1112301 << calm up all you like, the log is a DAG
EllieAsksWhy: I need to get a feel for syntax here, and metier. I liked Second Life chat and sometimes Google chat, but am kind of sheltered about messaging, other than Microsoft Connections to annoy the DBA at work.
asciilifeform: EllieAsksWhy: get in wot (the actual wot). this way you can come back, e.g., tomorrow, and we will have some reason to think that we are speaking with an invariant actual human being
EllieAsksWhy: I'm sorry, I'll try to calm down and be more linear. I have never had the opportunity to actually talk about any of this stuff with anyone. I only read about things on my own.
EllieAsksWhy: There is also a Web of Trust that is a Canadian accounting auditing certification, not a professional certification but an audit standard of some sort. The real Web of Trust is the original one though.
EllieAsksWhy: The real one is PGP from MIT.
EllieAsksWhy: The real one is not mywot.com
EllieAsksWhy: I noticed from the link provided by asciilifeform earlier, that Mircea knows about triplesec. That led me to this, which I'm not sure about https://github.com/keybase/triplesec/tree/master/talks/hack-and-tell%202013.10.22.key
Adlai: reddit is inferior to irc on nearly the same level as the inferiority between facebook and actual conversation
EllieAsksWhy: I initially knew Web of Trust as the Finnish company mywot which has totally gone to hell since someone bought them out a year ago. Your Web of Trust is more like the real one, that proceeded mywot by over a decade, right?
EllieAsksWhy: Oh, on reddit, both the Dark Enlightenment and buttcoin sub-reddits, there are sarcastic/funny named bots that do silly things that make me laugh. Even though they are automated, the incongruity always amuses me.
asciilifeform: in the sense of with sufficient lsd everything is quite like everything else ?
EllieAsksWhy: I want to be in the WoT. I got a keybase.io key thingy. I was trying to figure out if I could use it for here.
EllieAsksWhy: I am still not convinced that Blythe Masters is truly a "master" of derivatives. She seems more like an investment banker/ figurehead.
EllieAsksWhy: I often browse, lurk, read your logs though. On the sidelines, voiceless
EllieAsksWhy: Hello Daniel of Twitter! Wow, this is so exciting. I just replaced my keyboard, I was using the virtual one before, so I could barely type and was hesitant to visit here.
asciilifeform: 'respectability' through shitwashing, l0l, 1,001st of these or what. snore.
assbot: Derivatives Pioneer Blythe Masters Tackles Digital Currency | Institutional Investor ... ( http://bit.ly/1PJCOPB )
EllieAsksWhy: Blythe Masters is going to make bitcoin respectable http://www.institutionalinvestor.com/article/3446313/banking-and-capital-markets-trading-and-technology/derivatives-pioneer-blythe-masters-tackles-digital-currency.html
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> ... like that cemetary caretaker, eh? << if you know what his weapon of choice was, share - it would add some spiffy detail to the legend
asciilifeform: <jurov> maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas ... << the notion that computing machines, as presently constructed, have some direct connection with what maths folks did in the 1930s is nebulous at best. even if commonly believed
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube << the only reason why they so easily sell this flavour of snake oil is that virtualizator gets you 'cpu cycles by the pound' and buckets of little arm boxes - don't (why not? because we never actually invented parallel processing or, especially, process migration. apparently. at least, unix world did not.)
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine << in the same sense as a fart, or even two electrons whizzing by in vacuum, are a computing machine. us earthlings are interested, for this reason, in -programmable- computators.
asciilifeform: jurov: ...there are new miniitx mobos with ECC support... << where?! link plz. i'd buy at least one to try
gribble: The operation succeeded.
menahem: TheButterZone if you start making more tracks, I'mma get in on that!
mircea_popescu: dude, the whisper thing fucking works.
mircea_popescu: !up TheButterZone
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Stop all the clocks (again) on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FpuRvW )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell pete_dushenski check this shit out http://trilema.com/2015/stop-all-the-clocks-again/#comment-113916
mircea_popescu: they're rounding her up.
BingoBoingo: glyphosate is almost a nutrient nao: "The study found glyphosate in all urine samples at values ranging from 0.5 to 2 ng glyphosate per ml urine (drinking water limit: 0.1 ng / ml). None of the examinees had direct contact with agriculture."
trinque: mp: I did commit the equivalent of showing up with a flamethrower at a figure skating competition, "what move is that! IT LITERALLY MELTED THE ICE!11" << ahahaha my sides
assbot: Trust relationship from user assbot to user TheButterZone: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 4 connections. |http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/trust/?from=assbot&to=TheButterZone | http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/TheButterZone/
mircea_popescu: !gettrust assbot TheButterZone
mircea_popescu: !up TheButterZone
jurov: maybe the only difference is computer science was constructed from mathematical (or not very mathematical, like strings) ideas, where cunts evolved themselves somehow
mircea_popescu: i think ima collect the cunts-on-perl discussion. it's pretty good!
mircea_popescu: usg.nsa loves "virtualization", but it's by no means the only way to skin that cube.
mircea_popescu: and that they're indistinguishable doesn't really make all that difference. there's no rule computation must be discrete.
jurov: under current quantum mechanics model it was proven these molecules are indistinguishable
mircea_popescu: it computes the positions of ~10^26 water molecules + some impurities.
mircea_popescu: other than that, aglass of water is a computational machine.
mircea_popescu: i think i managed to botehr the shit out of gabriel_laddel
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 20:35:11; jurov: what? cunts run perl? had to reread. and then again. hahahahaHAHAHA
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 19:50:08; williamdunne: So with ScoopBot you're proposing that someone on the Lordship list could add their blog to his reading material
mircea_popescu: (protip : max-age=0 tells agents they should revalidate. no-cache tells them they MUST revalidate, which in many broken implementation works out to no revalidation, just downloading it again)
mircea_popescu: and this isn't even getting to the part where contravex specifies no cache control
mircea_popescu: jurov lol you do have a point with the pic.
williamdunne: jurov: Personally? yes. Not sure about others, branding isn't great (which unfortunately seems to matter)
trinque: and provides similar spin-up/spin-down features seen in the Xen scene, without the braindamage
trinque: what I want is a host that provides physical boxes that aren't that powerful, are cheap, but are not joined at the brainstem to other systems
trinque: urov | i'm not criticizing anything << well sure you are, but there's no harm in that
williamdunne: jurov: I'd need to know the exact specs, but $20 for some bare metal - sure
jurov: just doing the math
trinque: that there's another inferior product on the market which is cheap because of an ignored risk being dumped on the customer shouldn't inform the price of a product that does what it claims
trinque: jurov | http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111608 << it'll eat at least $10/mo electricity << the idea would be that the customer is paying for the privilege of their own box, should come at a premium above what a VM costs
jurov: i can't imagine how to convince the neighbors, tho. and it'll need to get switched off in the summer.
jurov: in our condo are unused rooms, maybe i can fill one with oil, submerge the machines and use the heat to heat whole house
jurov: perhaps the word mircea_popescu wants is "cybernetics" in its original meaning but it kinda went the way of vitalism
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 03:50:42; asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> that may be. i'm just pointing out that biology offers a very significant challenge to theoretical cs. << i must confess, that i am at a loss as to which aspects of meat we should like to replicate in machines: intransigence? toe fungus? pneumonia? schizophrenia?
jurov: what? cunts run perl? had to reread. and then again. hahahahaHAHAHA
Pierre_Rochard: doing the conversion to sum up debits and credits, can’t wait to release :). It’s written in python with flask + sqlalchemy
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 01:18:03; Pierre_Rochard: williamdunne: had a similar head against wall bug yesterday, in pgsql: to_timestamp(‘2014-2’, ‘YYYY-Q’), doesn’t work because the docs clearly state “quarter (ignored by to_date and to_timestamp)” but it was three hours of desperate refactoring before I actually read them.
williamdunne: So with ScoopBot you're proposing that someone on the Lordship list could add their blog to his reading material
jurov: but if you want to parse the whole list, yw
williamdunne: Which surely makes the whole thing redundant, no?
williamdunne: Sure, but I need to have a feed of all their names not gonna just brutefoce it
williamdunne: jurov: How would I scrape the lordship? Isn't it decided by more than just rep?
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 18:27:00; mircea_popescu: cazalla dude the http://qntra.net/archives/ page kicks ass.
BingoBoingo: cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-04-2015#1110314 <<< this is just the default manner wordpress creates an archive page, i think, unless bb made changes << Borrowed the code from a plugin. Same style also used on thedrinkingrecord
williamdunne: I'm currently in the process of over-engineering SccopBot while adding the library features, any requests for features?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: ;;later tell pete_dushenski title pic of contravex is quite a hog and despite the size still has jpg artifacts, i'd recommend converting original to png and running through pngquant
assbot: Logged on 25-04-2015 20:37:37; ben_vulpes: http://thethug.life/reputation-commodity-exchange/#fn:1 << bro do you even airgap?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:53:14; mircea_popescu: "Unfortunately unlike Bitcoin there is no reputation Trezor." << a) trezor's kinda dysfunctional/derpy ; b) of course there is. airgapped gpg.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111575 << the UP20s go for 15-35K used, depending on how nice they are: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motoman-UP-20-Industrieroboter-20kg-Tragkraft-/131480057745?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item1e9cd27791
williamdunne: danielpbarron: Religious ones mostly, nothing we will sway each other from
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: can you see the fnords, though?
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:29:22; asciilifeform: and l0l, apparently no one mentioned the matchsticks. so let this count as mention.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111569 << i've mentioned them several times, just...everyone's blocking them out
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 2 for williamdunne with note: formerly mrwdunne with rating +1 : May 23, 2014 chatted with me in the counterwallet troll box; patient fellow.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:18:08; asciilifeform: but engineers who take an intense interest in 'in the end' tend to build autoguillotines.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:01:49; trinque: it's a wonder I can hit the toilet with my ass
gribble: The operation succeeded.
williamdunne: Naphex: Thanks for the rate
williamdunne: Definitely, just working on getting the library working
williamdunne: Sure no, but most people would call dollars fungible - even though they certainly are not
mircea_popescu: williamdunne essentially, "fungible" and "non discriminatory" are the same thing.
williamdunne: If a club lets anyone in, so long as they can travel to the club its not exactly discriminatory, just a matter of practicality
williamdunne: Sure, it doesn't care who you are so long as you have keys and the ability to sign
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111853 <<< There is a night club with free drinks, but only if you can get past the bounder
jurov: davout: yes, i do the btc-dev list
menahem: hmm, often in your posts you provide a secondary story. in this case (RIPple), the congenital defect. which is often my visual takeaway on your point.
mircea_popescu: here's another thing that doesn't work : "The worst part, is Torrie Fischer is competent with PGP 4. My advice to her, is" << the problem being that i can readily see her cv, but i don't see yours. from whence do you give her advice ? this jars.
mircea_popescu: for one thing, it isn't the peak of stupidty. for the other thing, making pronouncements like that dun work. you gotta show, not tell.
mircea_popescu: "This took a bit for the stupidity to really sink in. Like, sink sink in. Her comment I have to say I dont really appreciate reading something like that and would prefer a much more constructive discussion about web payments is the absolute peak of the stupidity. " << this was the problem
menahem: i didn't know how far I should push it - mention her on twitter, etc.. maybe best to leave the heavy hand to you ? i'm too much of a luvva. but maybe my definition of luvvin is wrong.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 06:08:42; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell menahem you really don't know how to bother girls.
menahem: mircea_popescu thanks for the vote of confidence.
mircea_popescu: why not ? cause fucktard so decided! nothing negative could ever represent these idiots' "twu vawue".
mircea_popescu: dude is all "anyone can search and find out someone's marks, ~which do not represent the value of the respective person~".
mircea_popescu: how about you know, doing a good fucking job at the exam, so you don't have to be ashamed of it a few years later.
mircea_popescu: im gonna erase history to satisfy the hopes and aspirations of the subhuman horde five minutes after i gangbang literal sows.
mircea_popescu: most recently, http://trilema.com/2011/rezultate-la-bacalaureat-sesiunea-iunie-2011-judetul-tulcea/#comment-113907 "these information WERE of public interest but through the passage of time 'have become' private"
mircea_popescu: now there's about one a week bitching about how you know, this shouldn't exist!!11
mircea_popescu: and in the lines of drama : a few years ago the ro education ministry failed utterly at publishing natl highschool exams. so i hacked their shit and published the lists.
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 09:53:45; assbot: The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 )
fluffypony: doesn't work for me either
mircea_popescu: the complexity brtought about any attempt to implement "convenience" is outright staggering huh.
fluffypony: well they could always use Namecoin instead
mircea_popescu: because you know, usg keeps a master key, or so the rumour goes.
fluffypony: not unless you have their DNSSEC private keys
mircea_popescu: mkay. well i'm exiting this process with message "a project to provide bitcoin-deanonymizers with a domain-address pairing method, powered by the general public's expectations of convenience and lack of expectation of guarantees" which sums up to "fluff".
mircea_popescu: ie "What is the application-side process?" ?
mircea_popescu: you folk gotta hire someone to do proper tech writing. there's nothing wrong with having sales copy,
fluffypony: that said, a DNSSEC fail is a soft fail (as not all zones support DNSSEC at this stage) - so it'll present the address for user validation
fluffypony: since DNSSEC follows a signature chain back to the root zone your ISP's DNS server can't fake the record
fluffypony: the registrar doesn't set DNS records, necessarily, only what the nameservers are (ie. SOA)
mircea_popescu: what the hell ssl be you using
fluffypony: it's a static site, so just use the archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20150403023536/https://openalias.org/
fluffypony: I'm guessing the CloudFlare node you're hitting is being wonky
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: jurov_ you manage the mailing list amirite?
punkman: http://wp.newrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Richard-on-Bed-of-SIM-Cards-Color.jpg "The main limiting factor for his business is a somewhat unpredictable supply of SIM cards."
assbot: Bot makes $2.4 million reading the Web: Meet the guy it cost a fortune. ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1SARk )
punkman: http://www.slate.com/articles/business/moneybox/2015/04/bot_makes_2_4_million_reading_twitter_meet_the_guy_it_cost_a_fortune.html
assbot: The Bot Bubble: Click Farms Have Inflated Social Media Currency | The New Republic ... ( http://bit.ly/1z1Svx5 )
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111640 <<< To the layman it seems they would be different. Assuming you're a fairly boring person as far as you're concerned dollars are pretty fungible (obviously not entirely and dependent on payment system), but they're not even close to non-discriminatory. I guess the difference IMO is between 1 btc = 1 btc, and anyone and everyone being able to have 'a
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 05:33:34; mircea_popescu: williamdunne "The cost of enforcement of contracts grows over time as an increasing number of loopholes are found - as described in an article by Mircea Popescu" you know you could ~link it~ o.O
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111677 <<< Originally it was linked in the footnotes, not sure what happened to that. I'll add it again later
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:05:37; asciilifeform: think this way - if the problem were entirely contained in an -available- set of abstractions of the language, the program would not need to be written!
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111529 <<< if it's a set you still need to stitch them together
assbot: Logged on 26-04-2015 04:35:18; mircea_popescu: before smartphones, it was not uncommon to stop two people in the street whose clocks were 30 minutes apart.
Naphex: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-04-2015#1111612 << See: http://www.tau.ac.il/~tromer/handsoff/ / https://lists.gnupg.org/pipermail/gnupg-devel/2013-December/028102.html for the acoustic side channel fix
gribble: The operation succeeded.