BingoBoingo: cazalla: two winters ago stayed well below 0F for most of January and kept two feet of snow on the ground
assbot: History of the Atlantic Cable & Submarine Telegraphy - 1957 HAW-1 California-Hawaii Cable ... ( http://bit.ly/1dLXoB7 )
decimation: asciilifeform: http://atlantic-cable.com//Cables/1957HAW1/ < "The polythene-insulated coaxial type cable is designed to provide the same number of telephone channels, namely, 36, as the first transatlantic telephone cables, the greater part of which were also produced by Submarine Cables Limited."
BingoBoingo: past couple years I surrendered the northwest quadrant of the yard to growing as native woodland, but... squirrels plant hickory in the worst places
cazalla: too cold? meyer's do ok here in melb considering the cold (although no snowy winter obv)
asciilifeform: (the very first oceanic cable, famously, burned out)
asciilifeform: decimation: afaik all of those remain under the sea. and, by and large, still work (if one were to plug them in)
BingoBoingo not always the most attentive gardener
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Ah, been doing that too, but there is a point where one needs to not merely kill weeds of limited size, but trees. Meter and a half tall toxichondendron specimine annihilated by triclopyr
decimation: they demolished a reef to do so
decimation: I went snorkeling in hawaii once, saw a massive undersea cable that was one of the first international lines
cazalla: BingoBoingo, pull the weeds out with your hands.. it's what i was doing this morning.. fucking wind has caned my brussel sprouts too :\
decimation: heh I had some of those back in the day, 10-base-2
asciilifeform: and of course ethernet over coax somehow never happened
decimation: really this is gonna sweep the market, because of the vast infrastructure of deployed coax for cameras
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: On black and white turdcams I look more like a chubby somali than a korean, but yes. I am surprised he did not mount aggressive defense on the camera quality.
decimation: the cameras are pretty cheap though
decimation: unfortunately there only seem to be dvrs available now, no computer capture cards
decimation: instead of shitty ip cams, they are making hd cameras that can propagate full picture at 'baseband'
decimation: asciilifeform: actually there's a new 'technology' for hd cameras
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I am too race blind. A few years ago an acquaintance robbed a bank and seeing the CCTV pic in the paper I'm like who is that fat korean? Turns out it was a fat white guy I went to college with.
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 01:00:04; mircea_popescu: so if you get mugged by a korean guy you can confidently pick him up out of a line-up of six other korean guys, same age same height ?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121888 <<< asians all look the same to me sorta thing?
asciilifeform: i must note that the firm has a lengthy history of chumpatronic shenanigans
asciilifeform attempts to find the docs, turns up nothing but marketing crud
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: supposedly out. and, iirc it's a pedantically documented sparc, rather than closed turd
mircea_popescu: (obviously ru bureaucracy needs something for import substitution, but other than that...)
asciilifeform: it is how they dump inventory
asciilifeform: they feature 'intel atom'
mircea_popescu: you will notice it was definitely not the us' fault that you couldn't find jeans in moscow cca 1985.
asciilifeform: interestingly, there are 'disposable' laptops sold at u.s. crap stores
mircea_popescu: unless it tornadoes at them
mircea_popescu: whereas ustards expect to be pushed, and are so used with the pushing they simply can't find the lake
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure they export anything you want. but ~you gotta want it~.
asciilifeform: at any rate, i'm merely trying to divine whether they export these buggers after all, or - as i suspect - the examples turning up in ru were hand-carried to the street market
asciilifeform: precisely the situation in ru. folks end up with mips lappy, and end up pissing on it because 'not only won't run counterstrike, but mozilla is slow'
mircea_popescu: the sort of retards with good food and all, but still. don't be surprised they don't know the difference between a tool and another tool. as long as it's not for farmin' or cookin', they dunno.
asciilifeform: goatfuckers with chinese imports by the gigatonne. hence question.
asciilifeform: hey it's 3 or 4 notches above the retardation here in east gringolandia
mircea_popescu: for all their pretenses, they do not qualify as a town, they're goat herders at best.
mircea_popescu: you know, contrary to your high regard of them, argentines are retarded.
mircea_popescu: it is not their job to care. retardo-us may imagine all it wants that icbc only exists if they say it does, and gs is best whatever because so sayz washington post.
mircea_popescu: this lol was in the log last year.
mircea_popescu: they aren't nor shoudl; they be. lemme tell you something : the largest bank in the world (icbc) trades in the states on pink sheets
asciilifeform: just that they are hand-exported.
asciilifeform: they are not concerned with export.
asciilifeform: the interesting part is that chinese mips (see above) are in production, but entirely unobtainable in the west.
mircea_popescu: they can run golang for all i care.
asciilifeform: straight to 'elbrus' then
mircea_popescu: blatantly steal all the intel stuff, throw out the garbage, let anyone who wants to complain talk to their hand.
asciilifeform: they did try
mircea_popescu: that's what i'd do if i were their emperor.
mircea_popescu: im really hoping the chinese come out with an actual chip alternative.
asciilifeform: (the amd variant has vastly insufficient scope - and uptake - and so.)
asciilifeform: but yes, it has been decided, the intel rootkittronic turd is to be in all x86 boxen.
mircea_popescu: sadly. i loved them for like a decade.
mircea_popescu: the only shit they're still selling is stuff like the fx gaming processors, mostly to nvidia fanbase.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the very expensive opterons nobody buys
BingoBoingo wonders what sort of mangling would let a Bitcoin unload the ECDSA on opencl so gpu could fuck with it
asciilifeform: (which will not keep them alive, no)
asciilifeform: plus the '08-prior sommelier market
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> this is server high end stuff... a battle amd has lost, incidentally. i don't even know if they have anything << afaik this is the -only- market they haven't entirely lost
asciilifeform: the 'cores' derpage poured fuel in this already-hot fire, by giving incentive for underperforming serially to keep thermal manageable
BingoBoingo: AMD seems to be still doing ok on the server if you are going to shard the physical machine into a fuckton of vms
williamdunne: Their 24 core opteron things
williamdunne: I definitely saw something they were meant to be great for
mircea_popescu: a battle amd has lost, incidentally. i don't even know if they have anything
williamdunne: Shouldn't that depend on usage, and the specific CPUs?
mircea_popescu: and the only thing that even offers 4ghz sucks even worse.
williamdunne: DaFuq are the stats on that?
mircea_popescu: damn this entire fetlife fraudulent dmca business has been one of the best things. i really love these new servers i got.
mircea_popescu: "five elephants decided to figure out what man is. according to their unanimous testimony, man is essentially flat."
mircea_popescu: but france is the most socialist country and it attacks people with money!
williamdunne: Just a "The control of crypto-currencies like Bitcoin are set to be tightened drastically" appended to the end
williamdunne: Mm can't find much info about the actual regs
williamdunne: "France Restricts the Movement of Gold, Cash, & Crypto-Currencies"
williamdunne: Lots of English speaking yellow people who don't know any asian languages in the UK
williamdunne: Seems more geographic, with race being the likelihood of being in whatever geography
mircea_popescu: because obviously the most commonly held lowest denominator of culture (ie, language) is pretty race-related.
williamdunne: Stuff they like
mircea_popescu: what do you mean by "cultural traits" by the way ?
williamdunne: But sure, introduce me to them over an evening, and outside of usual struggles with names I'll do fine
williamdunne: Maybe the whole school was more perceptive, I had heard of a few racist-type events at the non-selective schools
mircea_popescu: so if you get mugged by a korean guy you can confidently pick him up out of a line-up of six other korean guys, same age same height ?
williamdunne: Occasional racist jokes but the couple of Asian kids and couple of black kids were just viewed as other kids
williamdunne: The biggest city here is 96.2% white
mircea_popescu: heck, most monocultural folk can't even DISTINGUISH people of other races.
williamdunne: So, just to be clear. The difference is you can tell who shitty white people are, but you can't tell who shitty black people are?
mircea_popescu: it was the only way.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda what happens with racial stereotypes. if you grow up among white people, you immediately recognize white trash. black people don't register properly in this scheme, so your mental heuristic (correctly) just assigns the trash bit to all of them.
williamdunne: The only real common trait is male
mircea_popescu: williamdunne less time wasted identifying the idiots, which need to be oppressed ?
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 00:09:48; asciilifeform: the pretentious derps, just think of it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121821 << shuttup you hater you. i drive cabs around ba all the time! and i also cooked a steak and made myself coffee today.
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 00:04:04; asciilifeform: and the idiotic scam helps to discourage the few folks who might yet do it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1121797 << i've never seen worthy folks as easily discouraged as these imaginary ones of yours. what's next, dildos discourage men from fucking women, because they behold them rubbing on the dongs and get all flaccid ?
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 23:58:52; jonvaage: How much good does homogeneity help if the predominant culture is fucked?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121763 << how much does structural integrity help if the plane's headed to its crash site ?
mircea_popescu: but whatever, horowitz can pay. they can push back and forth the same million in qe, taxes, fines, donations, govt contracting and whatever until they fall over. every 1000 times they do it, the "gdp" goes up by 0.0001% or w/e
mircea_popescu: so wait, the violation of "bank secrecy act" consists of having kept banking secrets ?
mircea_popescu: jurov not something that is established experimentally, either
BingoBoingo: Then again that could just be good video drivers
jurov: or you can sprinkle sleep(1) calls in the ecdsa code
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Also I worked so hard to chop together a kind of Bitcoin that works on OpenBSD
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: but they can steal knowledge of which keys are mine
williamdunne: Not like they can steal your keys
BingoBoingo: I'm either going to to have to move this machines fan replacement schedule from every ~18 months to 6, stop taking this machine out in the garage to smoke with me, rent a machine to use as an electrum server, or find a beefier machine
asciilifeform: the 2d slide deck is like a retarded kid, who others have learned to ignore, and somewhere he found a loudspeaker 'so they can't ignore any longer1111!!!11'
trinque: reminds me of the shitty desktop switchers that everyone had an orgasm over when compiz became a thing
trinque: mod6: I question the geometry of this cube my head's apparently in
asciilifeform: imagine themselves 'os devs'
asciilifeform: the pretentious derps, just think of it.
asciilifeform: but what i see is the complexity buck being passed
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Seems to be a member of the poor connections party
asciilifeform: it'd have some appeal if the net result was something like 1) 100x fewer lines of code 2) written by wot man in good standing
ben_vulpes: aw, did the twitter guy leave?
asciilifeform: one of 1,001 flavours of lipstick folks attempted to make the unix pig fuckable with.
asciilifeform: the whole 'microkernel' thing is a '80s u.s. academitardation that never seems to go to rest in its grave
jonvaage: ben_vulpes: My question homogeneity is not a feigned slight at any particular culture but a question on the inherent virtue of homogeneity alone.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: more broadly, the removal of complexity layers
asciilifeform: the extra insult is in the fact that the thing that these derps pretend to do, in fact direly needs doing
ben_vulpes: diddle the stylesheet yourself! sheesh.
jurov: these slides are useless
asciilifeform enjoyed the original erlang book, but did not enjoy attempting to write in it
jonvaage: How much good does homogeneity help if the predominant culture is fucked?
ben_vulpes: mod6, trinque, asciilifeform, anyone else interested in the "what happens in der clord": http://slides.com/technolo-g/intro-to-unikernels-and-erlang-on-xen-ling-demo
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 22:45:57; mircea_popescu: mod6 incidentally, a count of memory allocation of the entire codebase by function would be another worthy goal. just how much mmap, mremap, brk etc does it do.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121663 << as far as i can tell, the db isn't fully synchronous...
BingoBoingo: I've seen the legacy sprinkeled about around here, but nothing on the scale you got going on
mircea_popescu: if only it were the case that people are lazy and stupid because lizard hitler.
ben_vulpes: the funny part is how bent people got
mircea_popescu: what part of this is the scandal ?
assbot: The John Kitzhaber and Cylvia Hayes Scandal: A Handy Primer | Blogtown, PDX | Portland Mercury ... ( http://bit.ly/1EW0Xia )
ben_vulpes: http://www.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2015/02/12/the-john-kitzhaber-and-cylvia-hayes-scandal-a-handy-primer << some shorthand
ben_vulpes: familiar with the john kitzhaber story?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes he'd better, because the only way that thing can exist is via subsidies. like the student dorm
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png << lol at the 0.30 of delaware. << oregon has a good ticket on the bezzletrain. and i'd wager with the new governor, will procure ever more for favored classes.
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
BingoBoingo: cazalla: Leaves might not be bad. The stuff bacically crowds a flowerbed like a weed, but looks pretty so it gets to live
cazalla: BingoBoingo, so wikipedia would've got me killed for eating the leaves eh lol
BingoBoingo: cazalla: The columbine are totally poisonpus
Adlai: some "symbiotic" relationships are downright parasitic; others are less so
Adlai: the pimp best at this is young kim
Adlai: oh, not to mention coca and poppies! but in the case of meth, that really is just a case of one person fucking another
Adlai: the fact that humans, upon discovering any naturally occurring psychoactive, generally attempt to ensure its survival
Adlai: ie, genus Cannabis, like genus Triticum before it, has domesticated the monkeys
mircea_popescu: imgine, leave your toddler in its thing out by the apple tree, come back with some pie, ants dragging it away
mircea_popescu: the common polen wasp as found in yurp doesn't really sting worth a shit.
Adlai is wondering about the effectiveness of thwacking the stinger against the arthropod exoskeleton
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Adlai: the pertinent question is "stinging?"
BingoBoingo: So yardwork story from today. This year we've had a bumper crop of what I though were bumblebees move it, turns out they are carpenter bees. Rather harmless things I'm trimming trees the squirrels planted in the flower beds and the big bees are just buzzing around pollinating the shit out of the columbine... Yellowjacket wasp gets the jump on one of the bees near me and as I retreat because fuck yellow jackets, all of the carpente
mircea_popescu: mod6 incidentally, a count of memory allocation of the entire codebase by function would be another worthy goal. just how much mmap, mremap, brk etc does it do.
scoopbot_revived: News! The Chinese blackbox. URL: http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/05/the-chinese-blackbox/
mircea_popescu: pimp fleeces crack whore with the meth.
mircea_popescu: pimp doesn't "sell" meth to the crack whore.
mircea_popescu: the others' abjection is enforced by the forcing of drugs upon them. exactly backwards from commerce.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 21:15:17; trinque: also re: Mexico their cashflow relies on USAians buying drugs, neh?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121502 << you have to understand something essential about drugs : they aren't products. this in the sense that their flux isn't pull, it's push (which is why the sellers are called pushers). so no, the mexican economy does not rely on others buying drugs anymore than britain's economy relied on chinese buying opium.
Adlai didn't follow the egyptian 'spring' too closely, but it seemed to be a general process of the army becoming a free agent, and the public not disliking that sufficiently for another revolt (or not having a second army handy to oust the first)
mircea_popescu: problem is for all the linguistic and (ancient) cultural differences, misr is still stuck in the islam pit.
mircea_popescu: Adlai i would say egypt is copying the turkish style to a decent degree. turkey is afaik the only stable situation with a free agent army.
Adlai: does the egyptian army count as "free agent"?
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 21:09:45; ascii_field: su police were likewise intimidating. but this did not stop them from turning free agent when central gov. collapsed.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121495 << this is not actually true, ftr. the police itself never turned free agent ; the army afaik didn't in ru (it did in ro, but diff story there). individuals, of course. but individuals are individuals.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 21:00:52; ascii_field: there was an army, and police, in mexico as well
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:51:52; ascii_field: so far it runs the ancient cn algo of 'sit by the river and wait for your enemy's corpse to float by'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121456 << believe it or not there are people for whom this actually works.
pete_dushenski: whoa, sec makes us companies report on 'climate change.' why not make them report what they ate for lunch ?
mircea_popescu: and honestly i don't suspect the entire array actually contains one head apt enough to fucking finesse me. what is this, the future ?!
mircea_popescu: myeah. so teh usg has all these minor muppets it keeps trying to use in that manner. get the majors out so they can finally play
ascii_field: back in the stone age.
ascii_field: that deck o'cards (inherited from brother) did play a lot of it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_hearn suppose you chill it with the pretense of my-google-job-is-my-social-proof so the huge pile of embarassing emails etc won't have to be leaked. google's been embarassed enough this year already.
mircea_popescu: seriously, mike hearn isn't the slimy fucktard we all know ? he's some sort of google expert now ? allow me to lulz for a spell.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:42:35; ascii_field: what, srsly, is the next step after this idiocy, 'small blocks kill kittenz!!111!!11'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121441 << i am very much amused at the late game, desperate attempts of the tools to play up their imaginary qualifications and generally certificatorily merit wash.
mircea_popescu: http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/give-take-small-final.png << lol at the 0.30 of delaware.
ascii_field does not assert this hypothesis as hard fact. but bets on it
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:31:41; ascii_field: trinque: it also means that if you're on the throne, you gotta pander to derps to some extent - because this is implicit in ruling a naturally-occurring herd containing both halves of the 'bell curve'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121415 << this is by no means either well studied or soundly proven.
mircea_popescu: im not making a different country. i'm making THESE countries. let the reds make "their own country", on fucking mars preferably.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121404 << ftr he's readiong between the lines correctly.
BingoBoingo: A bit further north http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/illinois/illinois-district-replacing-elementary-school-ruined-by-collapsing-mine/article_ef5a27fa-df51-5c36-b52c-eaf53b1b905a.html
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121379 << dude srsly... wtf is "first meta". no woman got killed by lizard hitler because of words she wrote on her blog. whatever the pretense they were purporting to put forth, "bitcoin exchange", "intercepting cia with her dentures", etc.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121371 << that's in no way related to usg. they have hanging dope peddlers forever, with a brief interruption while britain bullied them into stopping it because it had no other trade goods available.
BingoBoingo: Nah, towns that burnt the coal got full so where the mines were become "subdivisions" with the vinyl siding and roads that occasionally crack and shift
BingoBoingo: All the time
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Many of the mines are shallow enough that it's possible to dig into some supports and trigger some collapsing
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Well private hosptial, but it is great at milking medicaid for its part of the building
assbot: The problem of enforcement on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1GZa7N3 )
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 20:06:04; ascii_field: williamdunne et al: 'micronations' are interesting right up until you try actually using them for something (e.g., resisting usg dictate) and it gets bulldozed. so, approximately as interesting as a pistol that is guaranteed to explode in your hand.
mircea_popescu: marrying http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1121342 to http://trilema.com/2014/the-problem-of-enforcement/
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: Locally they are building a new hospital with Obamacare bezzel in the epicenter of mine subsidence (building rules prohitbit houses with basements in the middle of tornado county the issue is so prevalent)
williamdunne: What is the male equivalent of a mistress?
mircea_popescu: the lad also has to marry the daughter of the largest tracts of open pigfarms in all england.
williamdunne: When I first came here, this was all swamp. Everyone said I was daft to build a castle on a swamp, but I built in all the same, just to show them. It sank into the swamp. So I built a second one. That sank into the swamp. So I built a third. That burned down, fell over, then sank into the swamp. But the fourth one stayed up. And that's what you're going to get, Lad, the strongest castle in all of England.
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 19:42:05; williamdunne: Liberland might actually be a cool option, although no-one recognizes it yet so no-one would criticize the US for raiding a DC there, no?
BingoBoingo: Illinois constantly tears up perfectly smooth rural highways for repaving with proper asphalt, the Missouri legislature debates letting their rural highways (the letter ones) revert from crude tarmac to plain macadam
assbot: List of transport megaprojects - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1KKsPGV )
mircea_popescu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transport_megaprojects << gotta love the navelgazingikia.
jurov: ah we're doing maximal price, you beat me. they managed 75 km for 9mld.
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: (by some accounts, he is dead. but new one will appear. it is good fertile ground for them.) << Several, appear to operate on clear iterative succession.
mircea_popescu: http://www.antena3.ro/economic/auto/cum-arata-cea-mai-scumpa-autostrada-din-lume-9-miliarde-de-dolari-pentru-40-de-kilometri-277914.html << there. 9bn for 40 kms. BIOTCH.
trinque: I'll convince you all that TX is the future break-away state yet.
mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Ohio-Serbia01.jpg << check it out, the tram conductors' corps
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure romania has the most expensive highway km