asciilifeform: so we ignore the cert spew ?
asciilifeform: then ran into that oddity.
mod6: for comparison sake, here's what the machine looked like before and just after bitcoind with this patch was executed: http://dpaste.com/094DT78.txt
mod6: asciilifeform: here's an update as to where my test of v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_Thermonuke is at: http://dpaste.com/3J5K2JB.txt
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cazalla: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/unless-everyone-using-bitcoin-makes-this-radical-change-the-currency-will-die (block size limit rubbish)
jurov: if there was winxp drop replacement
jurov: *they
jurov: pity the did not adopt and finish reactos.. would like to see utter panic at m$
pete_dushenski: "Last November, the 49-year old entrepreneur, who has no technology background, strode into a Beijing ballroom to pitch his latest made-in-China product: SPGnux, a Linux-based operating system he says could replace Microsoft Corp's Windows."
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: in other news, "Netanyahu's right-wing Likud sealed an agreement with ultranationalist Jewish Home, which advocates annexation of parts of occupied territory Palestinians seek for a state."
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pete_dushenski: https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37443/the-other-investors << moar garza, in case anyone's bored.
pete_dushenski: not that they were exactly half-assed.
pete_dushenski: mebbe for the sake of completeness ? if the brits were detail-obsessed nuts, they'd leave no stone unturned.
trinque: pete_dushenski: heh, so many of those are "landlocked, why bother"
BingoBoingo: Ah, the Phuctor is being fed!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu a good fraction of the existing db overlaps with the first coupla-1000 of the dump
BingoBoingo: trinque: But, the range of the nike is rather short. St Louis's Nikes couldn't hit Chicago and Vice Versa.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: so rolling from a defensive use to offensive is a matter of loading ammo, not replacing the gun
trinque: the propaganda around this shit is thick.
trinque: BingoBoingo: just read that page; sounds like yeah, can be used for either surface->air or surface->surface
jurov: https://dennikn.sk/124574/shooty-stalin-a-hitler/?ref=mpm heh "they like you in your country?"
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 18:02:08; mircea_popescu: the wachowski brothers of the 40s, julius and phillip
trinque is going to need to move back to TX during clitler; they'll be going apeshit over it
trinque: let rama zip through the solar system once and then ask me how much I give a shit what the border of transnistria is
ascii_field: eltsin died, ru spat out the usg cock, and is to bleed for this, yes
trinque: imagine another one came along and saw us all with nukes pointed everywhere, and it wanted the planet
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jurov: ascii_field: you know what is the only possible response to such doctrine?
ascii_field: and that this is perfectly pedestrian fact, regardless of whether you like usg or putin or kim jong un or hitler
ascii_field: trinque: basic idea is that anything that potentially tips balance of thermonukefest in your favour, is an act of aggression from the other fella's pov
BingoBoingo: Now denying the ketorolac shot, far bigger issue
trinque: ascii_field: sure, and an anti-missile missile launcher can probably fire the other kind too, right?
ascii_field: a machine that lets you detect other fella's rockets 5sec earlier, is really as much a lethal weapon as a nuke per se
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Athletes compete injured all the time.
ascii_field: ask usa why they are not ok in cuba
jurov: and why are defensive radar/anti-missile systems not ok then?
ascii_field: then went broke
ascii_field: even in cuba, until late '90s, they had
jurov: ascii_field: they do have stuff in nikaragua
ascii_field: last time cn had major shenanigans on ru border, there was a mini-war
ascii_field: just as usa did not like them in cuba
ascii_field: jurov: more basic than this - needs to not have u.s. nukes across the street (ua, pl, etc)
ascii_field: all the folks who helped the germans do their thing - not one in ten thousand answered with his skin.
pete_dushenski: 'power isn't how the world works!'
pete_dushenski: to the enemy, your power is never 'ok'
ascii_field: when demented premier moves the map - ok. when usg moves the map (independence 'referendum') - also ok. when ru moves - somehow not.
ascii_field: the russians - did not move.
ascii_field: trinque: in all cases but ua, accurate. the bulk of ua, on the other hand, was created by hruschev with a pencil
trinque: so the cynic in me says the whole nato/russia game is merely ironing out the details of the new russian borders, considering the above
trinque: after the USSR collapse, all these fragments of the USSR military left outside the border of russia
trinque: that seems to be the issue looking from far outside
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jurov: there were lots of such deals, most recent: http://www.globalpost.com/article/6537732/2015/05/04/moldova-protest-stolen-1-billion
schmidty: saw a provocative looking comment about the blocksize and i am falling down a rabbit hole now
trinque: my inclination is to believe all these bastards running the largest socialist states talk to each other
trinque: pete_dushenski: dunno what I think, asking the question though. I'm not well informed on eastern european politics.
trinque: I could easily see the latter
trinque: and what I wonder is whether to expect a war over the partitioning of eastern europe, or whether the basic agreement on who gets what has already been made
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu http://trilema.com/2012/de-ce-coruptia-nu-va-putea-fi-niciodata-eliminata/ << any interest in translating this for the non-romanian-speakers like me ?
trinque: ???Our country is a poor and agrarian country,??? he told GlobalPost on Monday. ???But it???s home to decent people who want their country to flourish, to be closer to European standards, and for it to find its economic niche alongside the European Union.??? << lol europe pls halp
trinque: I'm using terminus atm with the letter spacing cranked down a bit, works ok
ascii_field: what algo one even uses to answer this hypothetical.
mircea_popescu: "Sure, we can all agree that the assumptions made about the nature of blacks at the time was wrong, but that doesn't give us the right to condemn slave owners who didn't know any better. We don't condemn cave people for eating uncooked meat just because they hadn't discovered fire yet, do we?"
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu upon review of scoopbot_revived's exquisite design, which includes the titles, nothing !
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mircea_popescu: i should hope the man's mental processes weren't as disordered in all fields as he displays here.
mircea_popescu: for the record, laratt as glider gets pretty thoroughly routed on http://www.metafilter.com/49480/I-Pledge-Allegiance-to-the-Confederate-States#1222181 and subsequent
trinque: and after all they're just sitting on it
pete_dushenski: jurov at least the new premier is happy to be a woman.
nubbins`: onward through the fog!
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works. when you're out of money, you find someone who has some and either steal or beg for it.
pete_dushenski: federal is still stepped, alberta WAS the only province with flat income tax.
trinque: that'll work; good for them
nubbins`: that'd be them
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Mercedes-snowed-over-May-6-2015-e1430941436595.jpg << ndp wins. snow day immediately thereafter. god cackles.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu we might need to go back to the maccabees for a proper example.
mircea_popescu: take einstein. he died lieing about his gfs. didja get that bit in the log ?
kakobrekla: >SeppuKuma also offers 23 very different methods one can choose to end their life, including Everlasting Sleep (lethal injection), Pillow Kisses (suffocation), Peaceful Breath (helium asphyxia) and Sleepy time Hug which is where the robotic bear strangles its partner until their pulse stops for 15 minutes.
mircea_popescu: (this is ITS failure, try it as it might to misrepresent it as theirs)
mircea_popescu: im sure they have excellent personal histories. but, much like in the case of the messiah you hadn't heard of, the "culture" or w/e it is fails to meaningfully represent them.
pete_dushenski: and what of the boys who don't stay or won't be castrated ? the ones who seduce and overpower ?
mircea_popescu: this is how boy becomes the castrated sort of cvasi-intellectual jewish world always produced. the women love the style because it flatters their inferiority complex, the men tolerate it because they don't like fighting (or think they don't, because they grew up the same way)
pete_dushenski: so a rotating set of meals as a test, a benchmark, to ensure cohesion and the integrity of the social fabric.
mircea_popescu: hardly. more like an inhuman force of nature that has the potential to be massively disruptive and interfacing him to the village may well cost more than it's worth.
pete_dushenski: but if they do, a man is he !
mircea_popescu: the boys aren't expected to SEDUCE those married women and OVERPOWER their husbands, are they ?
mircea_popescu: this is how the jews thought best to prepare elites.
mircea_popescu: (note incidentally that the ancient superset of family life - each kid eats with his mother - is harem life - each kid eats with all the mothers)
mircea_popescu: nah, not just that. having kids eat at different houses each day so they could stay in school ?
pete_dushenski: sure, taking the sabbath
mircea_popescu: christians then imported it
mircea_popescu: basically, jews came up with the first social security system. this, cca 2000 ad.
pete_dushenski: also, article updated with... yet another personal connection to ndp.
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 17:35:05; nubbins`: yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 17:14:07; ascii_field: nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.
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mod6: what needs to be done there?
mod6: I also want to focus on the testing of your patch ascii_field. If it is to be merged, we must ensure that we do not regress.
mod6: im through stage 1 of the gentoo stuff; but now need to document and get that published hopefully by the start of next week. then need to get it setup for cross-compiling.
ascii_field wishes to hear from other folks who have.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless...
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: take a few min. to read the patch, if you have not. the behaviour should be logically equivalent to virginal 0.5.3 with an orphanage of zero
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: which is why i took the time to set it going.
mod6: didn't mean to confuse them.
ascii_field: mod6: aha i asked because you specified 'orphanage burner' - which was the 1st try of this
nubbins`: and that was the moment i said to myself "fuck currys, i'm ordering from talas from now on"
mod6: ascii_field: I'm running with this patch: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150504/asciilifeform_orphanage_thermonuke_2d219fdd1a0da960be38797566e9c0820df11ce6.patch
nubbins`: so i call the supplier
nubbins`: cracked the seal on one today -- solid mass of rubberish white inside
mircea_popescu: it's also why it had to be made (it's quite obviously a remake of casablanca, without the "girl next door" slime befouling it). that point has to be addressed.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field anyway, if it's not obvious, the tinny piano in the parlor downstairs explicitly says the woman's a whore.
mircea_popescu: there's a reason nubbins` finds the mentally insane so fascinating. that reason is that he has the deep intuition that the only people worth the mention are the ones that don't actually care.
mircea_popescu: not all of them.
ascii_field: sometimes - nutritious insects in the dirt
ascii_field: famine victims do the stupidest imaginable shit, like eating dirt and sand, drinking sea water
mircea_popescu: (it's from casablanca, bogart says it to the stupid priss w/e her name is)
ascii_field: who then
mircea_popescu: of a tinny piano playing in the parlor downstairs."Mister, I met a man once when I was a kid," they'd always begin.
mircea_popescu: Yes, that's very pretty. I heard a story once. In fact, I've heard a lot of stories in my time. They went along with the sound
mircea_popescu: i guess it's possible he's just a bodysnatcher victim, rather than outright ill intended.
ascii_field: what he found in the junkyard where he grew up - he glued, yes.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, the problem with yarvin was not the broad strokes, but all the empty mcdonalds wrappers he glued to them everywhere.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: this was 98% of mr mold's theme
mircea_popescu: ascii_field yeah him. and incidentally, this is the secular driver of the collapse in quality of life and everything else seen since the 1700s (it is a horrid collapse once you do inflation-adjustments) : back then leadership was secure, and therefore either good or motivated to improve, ever so marginally.
nubbins`: "All I need is <username of my dog>, <my motorcycle>, and maybe a little adventure now and then."
mircea_popescu: and to do a meta point here, to go with the meta point above : this entire discussion is a fine point to explain to the managerially challenged why you can't "control the evaporation". where intelligent people lay, nubbins' lateral discussion of "bullshot nobody cares about" sparked stuff people do seem to care about.
mircea_popescu: (as the above explanation, consider moldbug's very valid discussion of the guy with the ring that could kill. he who is secure in his authority makes excellent leadership. he who is not - horribru)
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes similar but not identical, and the difference is way out of scope here.
mircea_popescu: which is a fine entry point for explaining to the naive why exactly a properly explicit master-slave relationship is the best intimate arrangement available.
mircea_popescu: yeah, the funny thing about the human condition, in its fractally-deliberate misdesign, is that the slaves are altogether more likely to be creative than the masters.
nubbins`: "BME was hugely profitable. That said, because I trusted others to manage my finances, I was under the impression that BME was barely breaking even though it really was a license to print money. I was much more interested in BME on a creative level than a business level."
ben_vulpes: guns by any other name kill as well.
nubbins`: "One of the things I discovered is that if someone else has more money than you and are willing to spend it on lawyers, "right and wrong" are not very important!"
mircea_popescu: (and no, i am not aware you can be a successful king without a harem. your gender is not particularly relevant, your sexual preferences are not particularly relevant either. but you will have a lot of intimate relationships with a lot of other people, who are comitted to you personally.)
mircea_popescu: but anyway, moral being : forget about putting your time and effort into "compliance". for one thing it's stupid. for the other thing, who the fuck are they ?! and finally it's deliberately made to not be a satisfiable requirement. just there to soak up your time and resources.
nubbins`: https://www.facebook.com/notes/lukas-lukas-zpira/interview-with-shannon-larratt-followed-by-rachel-larratt-the-non-interview/409086949252718
nubbins`: haven't seen it either way
mircea_popescu: o wow, "He is the writer of the graphic novel RED, adapted into the film starring Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren." << how the fuck did i miss this. you seen it nubbins` ?
mircea_popescu: you don't get to even hear about them otherwise. by the time you hear about amazon, or apple, or /we it's no longer on the table whether bezos is or is not competent.
mircea_popescu: the us worked as a personal kingdom
mircea_popescu: nubbins` anyway, only notable for the ending of the original post, "However this conflict is resolved, I now know that I cannot rely upon my former partner and dearest friend and in the following year may work to build a BDSM dating site that is run effectively, responsibly and for the benefit of its users, not as a personal kingdom."
mircea_popescu: whether groupon (usg mafia) gets it or ru or cn mafia gets it... still gotten.
mircea_popescu: "gift certificates" has been the primary way to move value from business to scammer since the 90s.
ben_vulpes: someone's making and selling gift certificates on their behalf
mircea_popescu: exes are the real threat. they sunk a lot more ~profitable~ businesses than the various usg.agency constructs.
mircea_popescu: this ex stole just the domain names. ps - if you're into "building an online business" - forget the idiots trying to push "compliance" because hey, they live off the usg dole so gotta pretend like the usg matters to even be able to get up in the morning.
mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc << you know the story of collarme ?
nubbins`: yesterday, the canadian province of alberta (canada's texas) elected a majority NDP (the leftmost party we've got) government
mats: mircea_popescu: in the works, i hope to have deliverables ready by the end of this month. do you want me to rent a server to host the thing?
nubbins`: hmm. "I've got a weak spot for great branding, your company itself is a brand and it transfers so well into the work you do."
nubbins`: but what an impressive array of band-aids they were
nubbins`: all of these are just band-aids, obv
nubbins`: founder ended up getting the site stolen from him by an ex, it went to shit, etc
nubbins`: the better to cry discrimination, &c
nubbins`: as you'd imagine, iam.bmezine.com created an insular environment that convinced a lotta fucked up people that the fucked up things they wanted to do to themselves were acceptable
nubbins`: whole thing was written in "powerbasic" which had the unfortunate side effect of all the URLs ending in .exe
mircea_popescu: and the rest are dead.
mircea_popescu: to their reminescence, bmezine, ie, what they saw there then, was way ahead of its time. so would have anything else been, wherever they happened to look.
mircea_popescu: the way bmezine worked is that a large group of brown shit (random idiots mostly looking into an intersting path to killing themselves, a service boxing did for most of the 1900s, up to about the 90s) got some yellow shit interspersed. these are people who they themselves saw a little further than most.
nubbins`: then later they added a "tracker" feature that, when enabled, would give you a list of the usernames that have visited your page
mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know there's nothing shameful about being a slut.
mircea_popescu: (btw... fetlife scraping still ongoing. they "fixed" so many things meanwhile...)
mircea_popescu: nubbins` apparently the word is out. you and your bizarre kink.
mircea_popescu: so ima link this into the cfo/accountant discussion with Pierre_Rochard from yest.
ascii_field: and the emergent crud from interplay of layers, etc
mircea_popescu: but for what its aspirations cause on the ground.
mircea_popescu: and this is also a fine entry point for explaining to management noobs the meta point of why exactly a theoretical approach doesn't ever work. yes, you could read the tcp/ip spec and look for holes. those are the holes in the tcp/ip spec, not the holes in tcp/ip.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122612 << it's actually a fine entry point to explain to anyone why exactly tcp/ip is so broken. because this IS NOT a trivial task. the price for ipv4 and it's undocumented, buggy, slow and haphazardously ad-hoc nat-routing model is that you can't find out by inspecting yourself. the half-assed, quarter-baked lazy slothful and aol-windowesque implementation means that yo
nubbins`: o and the telco gave us a new phone number. SEX-4-ART.
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 16:05:45; danielpbarron: maybe also the former
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122595 << iirc he wants to supply customers with units. which isn't such a bad plan in any sense. tho a different thing than what we were originally doing. but no reason they can't tandem.
nubbins`: he threw all his bedding in the trash o.O
nubbins`: oh hey alf, the troll moved out
mircea_popescu: all the people who would have the intellectual capacity to do that worth a shit, we have better stuff to do with.
ascii_field: nubbins`: everyone with the 'one of these days.' you're gonna make mircea_popescu's head explode.
nubbins`: stan, one of these days i'll read up on valgrind and pick sense outta your last couple ML posts
nubbins`: what's the word?
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there's an order in all things!!
ascii_field: for the record, i'd rather wash my car than run (esp. read the output of) the valgrind. but who is going to do it if i didn't, l0l
mircea_popescu: i suppose "make a sane fucking export model" will be part of the ba sks server job.
mircea_popescu: i dunno if you think valgrinding bitcoind is sexier than fixing phuctor or something, but a) it is not, and moreover b) doing it while the other waits is actually negative, it's not even zero. moreover c) this nonsense is exactly how the power rangers got to be power rangers.
ben_vulpes: where does one get one of these blobs?
ascii_field: sks is retarded, so i gotta write a slicer that parses the gpg blobs and reassociates the email/selfsig/pubkey fragments into usable key packets
ben_vulpes: don't just let the capital equipment depreciate, now...
mircea_popescu: apparently a year wasn't enough, which means phuctor's going to hang out with the advertising site we had in short order.
mircea_popescu: and i had the thing sitting on your own aws or w/e specifically so you get whatever out of your system before i moive it on real metal, so you don't waste its cycles.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you what you're enticing. you're enticing me to can the project.
ascii_field: presently wishing to entice -other folks- to fuck around with it
mircea_popescu: and after, of course, the phuctor is started on processing gpg signs
ascii_field: mod6: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122532 << are you running the original burner? or the thermonuke ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: xplicit, painfully explicit, very very explicit, specific... << imho it needs another couplea runs. i have a strong sense that something is missed
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 15:59:02; davout: so now do i compile bitcoind right there? or should i somehow compile it on my local machine?
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mircea_popescu: polished all the fucking knobs and hanged scented car trees and chinatown windchimes from various nubbins is all.
mircea_popescu: three years later, they have done NOTHING. nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122508 << yes. because for all the pretense of "development" and "progress" and "new versions" and of course "blockchain technologees" of the #bitcoin-dev muppet orphanage, THEY.HAVE.NOT.ACTUALLY.DONE.ANYTHING.
mircea_popescu: it's like a std, basically, they get it around puberty through apparent spontaneous generation.
mircea_popescu: every fucktarded girl i ever met growing up, the sort that never got anywhere either in the bed or in the forum, their entire lives, and ended up settling down with an alcoholic bum, each and every one had, without exception, the same answer to any instance where they had fucked up :
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 14:19:10; asciilifeform: the imbeciles are phucked and their only recourse, as is now traditional, is to fud and lawyering
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-05-2015#1122491<< they are not fucked. we were always at war with eurasia. this is what they meant to do!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform apparently they're at 3s. longsoon that is. ah, best laid out plans...
mircea_popescu: throw an exception if they disagree
assbot: Logged on 06-05-2015 01:33:41; thestringpuller: http://gavinandresen.ninja/does-more-transactions-necessarily-mean-more-centralized << pete_dushenski gaving must have not seen your comments on your blog from yester-month