decimation: heh, most folks only know it from the 'hitler finds out the truth about the defense of Berlin' scene
decimation: asciilifeform: have you watched the movie 'downfall'?
asciilifeform: though i think it's a test-place before the swing proper
asciilifeform: analog hole, motherfuckerz
assbot: N. E. Muratov. Sketch of the poster “Remember Leningrad, Scumbag.” - N. Muratov - Google Cultural Institute ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVt0S5 )
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/n-e-muratov-sketch-of-the-poster-%E2%80%9Cremember-leningrad-scumbag-%E2%80%9D/JQHoySKCXwQxlQ?projectId=second-world-war << soviet death ray in use
asciilifeform: the photo
mircea_popescu: what part is new ? they were very active
assbot: Romanian Nazis pursuing their own “Romanization of the population and territory” in Bessarabia, Bukovina, and so-called Transnistria, 1941 - Google Cultural Institute ... ( http://bit.ly/1JVsLX1 )
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/culturalinstitute/asset-viewer/romanian-nazis-pursuing-their-own-%E2%80%9Cromanization-of-the-population-and-territory%E2%80%9D-in-bessarabia-bukovina-and-so-called-transnistria-1941/FwHYcY7AUgoRdg?projectId=second-world-war << this one's new to me
mircea_popescu: somebody's doing spanish qntra then ?
asciilifeform: i can find no way to link to the individual items in that exhibit
decimation: the uk is even more of a police state
mircea_popescu: i never had anyone in hiding without at least a few rifles + sidearms, at least a coupla people along for the ride, etc. 40k is good for a quarter, and that if the guy's very sensible all around.
decimation: but living like a bum is not a good way to avoid the police
decimation: $40k would go a long way in the us as long as you are willing to live like a bum
mircea_popescu: guy seriously lived three years on the run out of 40k ?
asciilifeform: the account-freezing thing didn't work on him? why? name too short, triggered sql bug ?
mircea_popescu: on the lam for 3 years ?!
cazalla: well, can't find the police report so who really knows
asciilifeform: hence, likely the confusion
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform clearly uses lisp sorting on the logs
mircea_popescu: somehow i couldn't remember correctly any of the words.
asciilifeform: hence the 'old' faces
asciilifeform: decimation: iirc the lectures in the videos were not actually given at mit, but as a guest tour for, i think, hewlett-packard
mircea_popescu bores of trying to find the "maybe blocks end up being too large" reference. was a coupla weeks ago iirc
mircea_popescu: felipelalli find out the details, write a qntra article.
decimation: asciilifeform: apparently MIT put a sussman lisp class from 1986 on their on-line course system http://ocw.mit.edu/courses/electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/6-001-structure-and-interpretation-of-computer-programs-spring-2005/video-lectures/1a-overview-and-introduction-to-lisp/
decimation: google protocol buffers is a library that allows the construction of arbitrary bit protocols
asciilifeform: lose the crapolade, lose this error.
joecool: could also be that i built it on gcc 5.1 which is proving to be a pile of shit (but this doesn't build in clang either...)
asciilifeform: lose the gui
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: A-Rod still has that 10 year contract with the Yankees that says he gets bonuses for ever time he progresses along certain career milestones. He spent all last year suspended because "if you can you must" so now this year that he is breaking all of these milestones after spending last year's suspension by chillaxing at the beach the yankees don't want to pay him his contractual bonuses.
BingoBoingo: The (lack of) value of fiat contracts http://money.cnn.com/2015/05/08/news/companies/arod-players-union/index.html
asciilifeform: we should kiss the arse, aha
asciilifeform: 'Today Bitcoin Core is easily >100 times faster to synchronize and relay than when I first got involved on the same hardware, but these improvements have been swallowed by the growth.' << ahahahahaha the headers-first idiocy
mircea_popescu: this was in the fucking spec, but i forgot
decimation: re: blazing saddles < I didn't get the german speaking indians until I saw this poem (lifted from google's shitty usenet archive) http://dpaste.com/21FWHSJ
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla is it possible ratings got lost over the import ?
mircea_popescu: decimation foundation didn't do reporting at the time, remember ? col brian foley, for all you know.
decimation: who is the guy who decided to pay gavin's salary?
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Seriously. One little threat they call crazy and all of a sudden it comes out no one but Hearn supports Gavincoin while The core devs seem to reveal in turn the never actually thought much on the future.
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv5uspQdbH1r4p8klo1_1280.jpg << girl around the house.
cazalla: these are older than that, ratings made in 2014
mircea_popescu: cazalla i missed ratings i made after gribble went down, on gribble's wot. like for instance the phantomcircuit one i discovered missing yest, was made in february.
mircea_popescu: if this isn't disarray i have nfi what is. these people don't even have a forum, a venue where to discuss their shit.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo jesus christ the deluge of verbiage from these people. that two line call-out in #bitcoin-dev has produced almost a million lines of derpage, on irc, on reddit, on personal blogs, everywhere.
cazalla: mike_c, actually a lot more is missing.. on bitcoin-otc i've received 19 ratings (WoT Browser shows 15) and sent 25 on bitcoin-otc (WoT Browser shows 16), these are old ones which i assume should've been included in the snapshot
mike_c: kakobrekla: what's the current strategy for rating timestamps? Just one stamp that is first-rated?
mike_c: that's how it is in the db.
cazalla: the one i left thestringpuller, it's dated nov 2014 but i believe that was when i first gave him a rating
BingoBoingo: (at the end)
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:47:04; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! any idea what the likely scenario behind that photo is ?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125656 <<< here's the after shot in any case https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-D6KxbCQAEkB4A.jpg:large
asciilifeform: (both are 'collectibles' and there were many more alphas)
asciilifeform: one of the cleanest, most well-documented (fit in a thin paperback book - whole fucking machine, not only cpu)
mircea_popescu: no, computing. "the only way to run a computer today is with an intel itanium running debian"
asciilifeform: takes over what, the fab ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nobody asks intel. the idea was, if FOSS actually can deliver on the promises it makes, then it takes over at that juncture.
mircea_popescu: (and it didn't really work well enough - which was perhaps correctly blamed on the proc)
asciilifeform: intel never had any purpose in life other than to operate as microshit's partner in crime
asciilifeform: iirc gcc was the -only- working compiler for itanic, for ages
mircea_popescu: i've been thinking when it jumped the shark
asciilifeform: but they all make turd built from same circuit)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the reason for this is because we're not big enough yet lol. "the next builders of roads once the romans croak will still not be the huns". well.... yes.
asciilifeform: (there are 1,001
asciilifeform: and the worst architecture i've ever had the misfortune to work with. just about worse than x86 from a fits-in-brain perspective
asciilifeform: incidentally, situation is more depressing than could be, because the usual principle of 'the thing waiting to catch the falling corpse is us' does not apply here. when intel dies, the corpse will be eaten by arm
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'd note that the most pestilential thing about intel is the fact of it keeping x86 alive, rather than boobytraps << To be fair they gave Itanic the old college try
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform incidentally, is my discussion of water captive in a glass part of the 7 ?
asciilifeform: i'd note that the most pestilential thing about intel is the fact of it keeping x86 alive, rather than boobytraps
assbot: Introducing the Bitcoin ISP on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1FUzVsq )
williamdunne: 20:09:56 - mircea_popescu: <mike_c> how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool. << i shudder at the thought of what'll happen once reddit & all gets wind of it. <<< what is this?!
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, soft guarantees can be extractred from the unloving tits of mother nature, and so they will be.
mircea_popescu: so yeah, we don't have, nor can we get just yet, the hard guarantees we'd like, and it'd altogether seem we're entitled to, by the shape of the space of logical possibility.
asciilifeform: 'glass cannon', at the least.
mircea_popescu: same reason intel's fundamentally unconcerning : all greedy algorithms are vulnerable to other greedy algorithms. that's what it means.
asciilifeform realizes he ought to have kept track of previous threads concerning this boojum. there are at least 7
Adlai: gotta put hashes on the blockchain and hellfires in windows
asciilifeform: nor, afaik, are the resources available for this.
asciilifeform: the secret to killing intel (in the sense of crafting a replacement which pushes the bits -that actually need pushing- at competitive speed at competitive cost) is to ditch x86 and even unix, all the way to von neumann; then can use si fab processes circa 1994 or so
asciilifeform: cisco was already tied to the firing post
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Analogue mathematical instruments
assbot: Amazon.com : *Drafting Kits, Study, Tools, Geometry, Items, Mathematical Instruments, 1, Tin Container, Set, Of, Dunbar, Oxford, Items, Complete & Accurate, With, Compass, Divers, 2 Pencils, 1-3.5" 1-6", Ruler 6", 45 & 60 Degree, Set Squares, 180 Degree, Protractor, Eraser, Pencil Sharpener, Etc., U ... ( http://bit.ly/1ALL4pj )
asciilifeform: already the choice is between 'intel' and 'bring your own collectible ancestral cpu'
asciilifeform: (i am deliberately not counting exotica made by other usg muppets, e.g., the (former) ibm's old 'power' chips, etc.)
asciilifeform: the overall picture is not encouraging. we are -this- close to a total intel monopoly on serious iron
BingoBoingo: Probably, but it may be a small step towards china saying fuck the x86-MS warez game and moving to Ubuntu warez
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can only hope their AMD investment wasn't entirely about keeping AMD's silicon less backdoored or making it differently backdoored
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the last importer appears to have vanished
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125774 << try and find -any- of their items, for any price
assbot: Game over: Twitter disables support for embeddable MS-DOS games- The Inquirer ... ( http://bit.ly/1ALJvaV )
asciilifeform: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2406542/twitter-now-lets-you-embed-playable-ms-dos-games-into-tweets?utm_source=Outbrain&utm_medium=Cpc&utm_campaign=Inquirer%252BReferral&WT.mc_is=977=obinsource << mega-l0l
assbot: HP launches ARM-based blade servers with Linux support- The Inquirer ... ( http://bit.ly/1ALJiEK )
jurov: kakobrekla: but that's their proprietary rack, no?
mircea_popescu: i was, but there doesn't seem to exist such a thing.
asciilifeform: the elephant.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, who would win a fight between bitcoin jesus and bitcoin godfather ?
assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 01:19:24; danielpbarron: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/34uu02/why_increasing_the_max_block_size_is_urgent_gavin/cqycy4h "Rather, the only push you see against larger blocks come from strong advocates of personal autonomy and decenteralization, like Peter Todd; or the MPOE crowd (regardless of what you might think about them, they wouldn't be any to bend to commercial or government interests)."
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 19:31:11; HeySteve: not sure if anyone noticed / cared, but gmaxwell paid a backhanded compliment to the "MPOE crowd" recently
mircea_popescu: maybe in the future it'll be "no, really, if you made a movie it's not your movie", but i think that's more than a graph node away.
mircea_popescu: for now it'll be "no, really, you can't take wikileaks dump down. even if it does 'endanger the lives of agents'".
asciilifeform: there we go
mircea_popescu: i can see the case, i tell you. quentin tarantino makes a new movie, it's on your box before release, he comes here and goes OMFGWTFBBQ what am i supposed to say ? fuck you, give us free shit ?
diametric: actually physically travel there?
diametric: mircea_popescu, a better question, what will you or your upstream provider do if given a dmca request to remove an ip participating in a bittorrent swarm, or a request for the customer information?
diametric: mircea_popescu: movies and warez mostly. not sure your opinion on the subject.
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/TheAmericanDream.pdf << mega-l0l ( plain text: http://dpaste.com/0V3TXJH.txt )
mircea_popescu: bittorrent is legitimate. dmca altogether depends. what exactly ?
diametric: mircea_popescu: so whats the bitcoin isps stance on bittorrent and dmca violations?
trinque: mircea_popescu: I'll move the static deed hosting to a box with IP soon, then ask kakobrekla to cname the domain to its IP
trinque: this is nothing to do with the s3 hosting
kakobrekla: then case closed.
kakobrekla: the way to handle it is to have an a record pointing to deeds servers ip
trinque: so one way of handling it would be to have nginx or whatever's hosting bitcoin-assets.com do the redirect
trinque: probably a setting in the registrar's panel
mats: o hey i recognize the actor.
HeySteve: cock burns via molten mozzarella probably not worth the prank
asciilifeform: i thought the traditional variant was 'plumber surprise'
mircea_popescu: mats you know there was an entire paysite dedicated to the concept of pizza-surprise.
mats: i can deliver pizzas to chix like the above
mircea_popescu: mats, too frail to be a ranger, to slow to be a troll... is there no place under the sun left for him ?
mod6: i was apologizing for the spec dump.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! any idea what the likely scenario behind that photo is ?
mircea_popescu: http://36.media.tumblr.com/12a868569ab2d31c56508e7f4abd5416/tumblr_n1k8f0mkch1qlnecbo1_1280.jpg << this is the rest of us when specs are being dumped.
mircea_popescu: which incidentally - if anyone wants to sysadmin an aws-style offering on top of bisp metal, please get in touch. i'm open to the idea, we'd have to discuss how it would work.
davout: HeySteve: yea, told me the reason he didn't came here is that he doesn't get along with mircea_popescu
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: ;;later tell pete_dushenski would surely do the gavin retreat justice on qntra.
mircea_popescu: the only thing that does is, prevent him from healing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in fairness, this is a trope of contemporaneity. thoroughly broke "feminist" graduate student reduced to waiting tables for rest of life will STILL not "surrender". ie, admit the banruptcy of his own stupidity, to himself.
mircea_popescu: the mpoe crowd eh ?
HeySteve: not sure if anyone noticed / cared, but gmaxwell paid a backhanded compliment to the "MPOE crowd" recently
HeySteve: the ones leading from South Africa
mod6: mircea_popescu: congrats on the Bitcoin ISP!
BingoBoingo: Writing up the ISP atm
mircea_popescu: mike_c now that's a point. yo cazalla ! BingoBoingo ! THE NEWS IS CHASING YOU!
mircea_popescu: yet there's bout to be some "what do you mean my 10 dollah gift certificate/reddit gold/whatever doesn't buy me anything!111"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt they'd notice
mircea_popescu: <mike_c> how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool. << i shudder at the thought of what'll happen once reddit & all gets wind of it.
Adlai: asciilifeform: well the number is written right above it
Adlai: any venture into the "mobile" world causes me to run screaming back to real computers
mircea_popescu: very succint, always quick, rarely find the global solution.
mircea_popescu: "at every node, visit the unvisited house closest"
asciilifeform: (it has a usable mathematical definition, for instance)
mircea_popescu: which shows us the problem in all its nude glory : ad hoc systems are unrepresentable.
Adlai: you'll still need the roof to do its job right. can't have sudden cold trickles at inopportune moments
mircea_popescu: but that's because you happened to take refuge from the rain there, has little to do with the roof.
mircea_popescu: housing roofs also play the role of attracting (or repelling) hot sexy soaking wet babes to your perch for the purpose of you getting a blowjob.
Adlai: the XX% figure just goes to show that personhood is a little beyond biology
Adlai: for example, some dna plays the role of attracting (or repelling) the transcription machinery, to influence which other dna gets transcribed
mircea_popescu: and if as far as we know it might as well not, that makes 84% or w/e comparisons untenable. irrespective of what may or may not be the case.
asciilifeform: because there be dragons or somesuch.
asciilifeform: and yes, one of my ancient beefs with biological 'state of the art' is that folks deliberately ignore non-genetic mechanisms of inheritance
Adlai: a better way of saying this is that: while dna is a great example of "code is data"; most of the data not being code for gene transcription does not directly imply that it has no other use
asciilifeform: you won't find it linking to 'oxygen must have 16 protons' either
Adlai: not when you set out to discover which changes it effects in the ALU, and then say, "oh, eip never points at the ceramics, thus they're useless"
mircea_popescu: in any case, claiming a z80 and a pentium 6 are "99.84% identical" on the grounds of mass spectrometry is about as apt.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly the fpga/dragonfly thread relates.
mats: asciilifeform: monkey patch for sure, but it does have its place... with a dozen other mitigations.
Adlai: "not directly obvious it actually does anything" << same way it's not directly obvious that the ceramic casing around your CPU does anything
asciilifeform: mats: i very much see aslr as the proverbial 'teacher's condom', as per https://xkcd.com/463
mircea_popescu: Recently there has been a flurry of posts by Gavin at http://gavinandresen.svbtle.com/ which advocate << lol just how many blogs is this guy keeping
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125148 << it's valid, but misleading. most of dna is "junk", or otherwise put "not directly obvious it actually does anything"
trinque: and I need to rename my deed files so they're named like that
trinque: mircea_popescu trinque can you put a redirect on deed site so that http://deeds.bitcoin-assets.com/deed/9ULZPc7yeZ9fQEA1aZ73H6mcv1s2C4gYFAbNTb5urovj << that site currenty redirects to the uniregistry thing, should instead redirect to deedbot.org/{txn_id}.txt
asciilifeform: nah, there he is born pre-digested.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l, but where is the pig that turns into sausage merely by being shown the knife.
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 12:04:56; cazalla: if and when it comes time to cut throats, well i suspect i'll ace that compared to some others
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125105 << ideally the lamb learns its place by merely being shown the knife.
BingoBoingo: The fish, it is very hard to kill. I keep holding it under the water, but it will not drown!
mats: fun fact: there is a PostScript ASIC.
asciilifeform: then - sure
asciilifeform: yes, but if gpu stopped (as perhaps it has) then it is quite useless to hijack them for this purpose given that asic remains in motion
mircea_popescu: anyway, this is the true risk of stopping trains : all this long tail of shit that was supposed to be "never" catches up with you
mircea_popescu: but the train stopped.
mircea_popescu: think about it this way : if you reverse 5, out of thousands, but not randomly picked, you can now install on what, 1% of the base ? 10% ?
asciilifeform: not impossible, but uneconomical given the (even in that era's mining difficulty) reward
mircea_popescu: the sucvess of the past is no guarantee fore the failure of the future or how did that sec-mandated thing go
asciilifeform: there was no possible answer
asciilifeform: (scarcely anyone on the planet does)
asciilifeform: mats: the rootkit thing is interesting for another reason. remember the era of gpu mining? there were thousands of idiots distributing 'bfgminer' etc. as crapware payload.
mats: this kinda shit is my #1 time-waster. i find something neat and go down the rabbit hole for a week.
mats: cutting edge for the time, not anymore; for example GPUs nao have onboard MMUs to support virtual addressing ('Virtual Texturing', specifically)
mats: that series i linked is one of the best i've read about how modern GPUs work
asciilifeform: mats: i dunno enough about silicon to say what i'd rather have << but it is not difficult to arrive at what one would rather -not- have. as (i think it was) mircea_popescu wrote, 'i don't lay eggs, but...'
mats: i dunno enough about silicon to say what i'd rather have
mike_c: I guess because everyone except me is already on the damn thing.
asciilifeform: what, you'd rather have nintendo-style jail ?
mike_c: how is the being passed over without comment? Real actual bitcoin hosting! very cool.
assbot: A trip through the Graphics Pipeline 2011: Index | The ryg blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1GTQwZs )
mats: http://fgiesen.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/a-trip-through-the-graphics-pipeline-2011-index/ series about how GPUs are implemented
asciilifeform: mats: the signature thing, when the chipset actually checks on coldboot, is to keep folks from overclocking their cheapo cards
mircea_popescu: if the byzantine problem had a systematic solution, we wouldn't be here.
asciilifeform: as if you necessarily need to reflash the card here
asciilifeform: that, for some inexplicable reason, most folks have in their box.
mircea_popescu: dma is actually one of the principal reasons i agree with alf's "current computing stack must die"
mircea_popescu: "Gpu can be used for fast/swift mathematical calculations like xor'ing or parsing"
mats: > Jellyfish is a Linux based userland gpu rootkit proof of concept project utilizing the LD_PRELOAD technique from Jynx (CPU), as well as the OpenCL API developed by Khronos group (GPU).
asciilifeform: without this clear thread, one is reduced to 'dulce et decorum est' and other mind games
mircea_popescu: otherwise, how much do you pay a man to go die in palestina or w/e.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the golden age of fedualism worked EXACTLY the same : while a king indisputably expended out of his purse, and amounts that were not trivial in terms of individual households, nevertheless the entire machine worked on the wilful donations of ten thousand knights, that actually lived their life in accordance with this particular model deliberately.
mircea_popescu: there's prolly going to be decades ellapsed before the immensity of just this one shift is even noticed, let alone fully discussed.
mircea_popescu: but the superiority of la serenissima over the fiat pretend-sovereigns is resplendent in all parts and throughout. here for instance : at least we don't even attempt the impossible,
mircea_popescu: 15/the-definitive-sovereign/ which are currently financed principally through voluntary donations of the citizenry, in the shape of time, know-how, expertise etc.
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 12:02:19; gabriel_laddel: IMHO, the differences between #b-a and /pol/ are many. /pol/ doesn't like it when they're censored and complains about how unfair things are. MP, and ascii both look ahead and see the need for WoTnet. MP commissions it out of pocket.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125101 << i would like to clarify this point at this time, by underscoring that while i do undertake some expense out of pocket, and that may well appear as an untrivial ammount, especially in terms of one's own household, nevertheless : 1) it is trivial compared to the tasks at hand, indiscutably and 2) B,TMSR~ runs immense deficits, as discussed in http://trilema.com/20
mircea_popescu: all fucking science exists as maybes, that's what it is. piles of hypotheses. just like no one can ever turn an ethic should into an engineering is, just so no one can turn a scientific maybe into an auctorial do it.
mircea_popescu: but the idea that scientists are not authorities doesn't really need much explanation, to anyone outside of the libertard coolaid club.
chetty: mircea_popescu: That statement pretty much sinks every professor and what not in the entire us
mircea_popescu: the thing does exist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for the record, osama bin laden took it upon himself to deliver a dozen jingos with shards in them right @ 1, Police Plaza
assbot: Logged on 04-04-2015 02:27:30; asciilifeform: 'Sometimes it is a comfort to me to think that the aeroplane is altering the conditions of war. Perhaps when the next great war comes we may see that sight unprecedented in all history, a jingo with a bullet-hole in him.' -- orwell. but i'd ask for 'an economist starved to death'
mircea_popescu: (to the more broad general point : an authority, perceived or actual, that faces absolutely no danger in case his pronouncements turn out to be wrong, CAN NOT BE USED AS AN AUTHORITY)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha right along with orwell's 'the jingo with a bullet hole in him'