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mircea_popescu: but nevertheless... the plane looks as much as a plane as it could, among the bamboo sticks and clay pottery.
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of annoying "magic numbers will save us" voodoo in there, like "Each server is required to deposit a certain amount of money in a special account to be used as potential fines or rewards for proof of misconduct."
mod6: ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers. << ah yeah! isn't that from like '98 cypherpunks?
mircea_popescu: http://www.weidai.com/bmoney.txt << ahh, the naive writs of our forefathers.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. so, this box : if hard drive is attached, will not boot off usb stick. just ignore it, pretend it doesn't exist. is hd is detached, will boot off stick just fine, but will NOT detect the hard drive no matter what happens.
pete_dushenski: well, it's been a gas but i'm off for the eve. cheerio !
pete_dushenski: jordandotdev: ah well there ya go.
jordandotdev: @ pete_dushenski yeah I'm in the WOT http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/jordandotdev/
pete_dushenski: Fast fwd to yesterday. I wasn't home yet from work, but my wife tells me local LE showed up and wanted to have a "chat". Asked if I or anone had ever ordered anything illicit in the mail. Said "nobody's in trouble, we're just following up on something that might be nothing"."
pete_dushenski: "Coinbase is seriously crossing the line now. I have had an account with Coinbase for well over 1.5 year. I bought some btc in March, and sent it to a DNM (won't say which one).. and did not purchase anything. I did not. The btc was a trivial amount, and said DNM has been having troubles with their uptime lately. Literally, no crime committed.
pete_dushenski: ah ok. you in the wot yet ?
jordandotdev: I'm still happy to do start-up stuff here in the states
jordandotdev: so it was either go work for a bank in HK or come back to the states
jordandotdev: but that job didn't end up working out - and I wasn't getting enough other work with Bitfinex to support myself there
pete_dushenski: jordandotdev: so if they're 'distributed' why did you move to hk ? why not stay stateside (where i presume you're from ?)
jordandotdev: yeah HQ is in HK, and they're domiciled in HK, Taiwan, and British Antilles?
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2014 00:57:07; mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes nah, lots of history there. bitfinex was a coupla twerps that took the leaked bitcoinica codebase and started a new bitcoinica, back in 2012ish ? early 2013 ? (that code was in the wild because after the nth breach, amir taaki of bitcoin consultancy fame "open sourced" it by releasing it without rights)
jordandotdev: and the CEO is great, and they're good guys, really focused on keeping people safe...but as far as 'tech initiatives' I was really in the wrong place
pete_dushenski didn't know that bitfinex was in hk, only that they're 'bitcoinica' reincarnate
jordandotdev: well I was friends with Raphael at first...he's in London and he runs the tech side of thing...I was working with the CEO there...so they're a distributed team
jordandotdev: and some other Bitcoin people I met in HK -- some have moved on etc.
pete_dushenski: what was bitfinex like on the inside ?
jordandotdev: and am still interviewing for a few more projects with some contacts I made there
jordandotdev: but they've got a stanglehold on that market
jordandotdev: but yeah I will follow up with them ... the video platforms that make bitcoin a first-class citizen are pretty few and far-between
jordandotdev: they haven't gotten back to me...for sure
pete_dushenski: so why don't you follow up with these esports fellas ?
jordandotdev: but they haven't gotten back to me
jordandotdev: notta living in San Francisco...fighting the good fight
mircea_popescu: for that matter - all brothers are mithocondrial twins.
decimation: the best one can do is try to find 'natural experiments' like twins, but I'm sure with enough study of the details there one could find plenty of subtle 'unlikenesses' between supposedly identical twins
mircea_popescu: in short : the complexities involved in this matter are properly wovon
decimation: even socialist professors admit that people generally 'have worse outcomes' in a situation where they are surrounded by other humans unlike themselves
mircea_popescu: (clearly, mixing all the gases together into multigasualism is the solution!"
decimation: little can be said, until one encounters another defined gas with a different mean
mircea_popescu: the flagon full of hydrogen is a very boring Africa of "IQ" because it never produces the fun looking lasers other compositions produce.
mircea_popescu: 2) if the recipient is full of identical molecules... you STILL get normal distribution of "IQ"
mircea_popescu: 1) the "iq"s are distributed normally
mircea_popescu: so... is type or circumstance more impactful in the iq of a given molecule ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, for the sake of bothering you, let me propose an equivalent model.
mircea_popescu: then at most you can say is, nurture 2x as important as nature. youcan't say 66%/33%
decimation: absolutely. still, one would have to explain the twins studies
decimation: cazalla: agreed, kids need to figure stuff out themselves
cazalla: decimation, i'd include proper food (i prepare nearly all the meals for my son) and some adversity, too many kids being nurtured to death these days
decimation: cazalla, regarding nurture, it seems to me that the 'sure thing' is teaching skills like reading, languages, manual skills, etc
cazalla: jurov, some people believe that :\ missus has a friend that takes her 3 year olds to get their chi flowing
jurov: nah, it's all the about celestial body constellations at birth
decimation: cazalla: I agree, the question is merely 'what is the ratio'? 80% nature? 50/50? The answer isn't obvious, but the evidence seems to tilt toward 'mostly genetic, some nurture'
cazalla: fwiw, i think it's a combination of the two but then again, some kids will do well regardless of which family they find themselves born into so who knows, i'm trying the nurture thing with my son so we'll see
decimation: are you with funkenstein - there's no genetic basis for IQ?
cazalla: decimation, i use to read his stuff but i think he has an over-inflated sense of his own intelligence (some IQ video of his rubbed me the wrong way.. coulda been this, coulda been that, coulda been a dr type shit)
decimation: turns out 2% growth is the 'new normal' and a good chunk of that is simply due to inviting the third world to move here and spend usd
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 18:08:33; davout: what am i? the fucking ms office paperclip?
pete_dushenski: bitstein: the gavin one ?
mircea_popescu: "Obama is neither smart nor a noteworthy peace maker. But that doesn't matter. The left has won over the key voting boards to give him these now-plastic trophies." << that part is exact.
pete_dushenski: "Unfortunately, this facade is not going to last. And the reason is very simple. The internet.The internet is breaking the left's grip on the scams these awards have become. "
pete_dushenski: "President Obama (both a graduate from the Ivy League and Nobel prize winner) is neither smart, nor a noteworthy peace maker. But that doesn't matter. The left has won over the key voting boards to give him these now-plastic trophies which dupes enough Americans into voting him (and other talentless leftists) into office." << notbad.
pete_dushenski: lol "i have 50 books on the english language if you need to borrow one"
Naphex: pete_dushenski: doez yoo think the media have changed?:)
pete_dushenski: "Popular British-Bangladeshi politician Lutfur Rahman was kicked out of office after being found guilty of corruption and illegal practices. Mr. Rahman has publically denied the charges and his supporters have accused the ex-mayor’s critics of racism and Islamophobia." << those racialists !
pete_dushenski: "any Muslim political candidate who sought to represent the issues most keenly felt by his fellow co-religionists – for example, solidarity with the Palestinian cause – risked being demonized and labelled an extremist."
pete_dushenski: "“Don’t vote! None have the right to legislate except Allah,” read one of dozens of bills splayed on car windshields outside the St. Saviour’s polling station in the east London constituency of Poplar and Limehouse. " << that's one angle from which to poke holes in popular democracy, i guess
pete_dushenski: also, it wasn't at all clear where googley eyes borrowed "More transactions means more memory for the UTXO database" from, but i agree, mircea_popescu, log quotes should be in there.
ben_vulpes: <davout> [18:12] with every day that passes the "get actual computer, fuck with gentoo" item climbs higher and higher on my todo list << davout if you can figure out what an "actual computer" is, let me know
mircea_popescu: when the shit did this happen.
mircea_popescu: dude the world is awash in fat, lazy, drab female "stand-up comedians" with delusions of political ideas.
ben_vulpes: nah, the weather's too nice
trinque: some bum's shouting about revolution on the corner
assbot: 49 Insane Photos From The World's Largest Porn Convention ... ( http://bit.ly/1Fch7pB )
mircea_popescu: http://www.buzzfeed.com/gabrielsanchez/photos-from-the-avn-adult-expo << kinda one of the top perks employers give to the "online journalist" crowd.
mircea_popescu: they get paid to be there.
trinque: look at the happy skank to his immediate left
trinque: plays well with the kids
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: who is the chick in the photo ?
mircea_popescu: and yo, various derps : next time you read something on the log, don't just run off and repackage it as your own thing, like some sort of idiot third worlder. link it to its source, that's how the giants were made upon whose shoulders your midget parents made you scum.
mircea_popescu: it was discussed on #bitcoin-assets long before the various bottom feeders posing as "technical" something or the other caught wind of it.
assbot: Logged on 08-04-2015 20:33:20; mircea_popescu: note that this is one of the majorest issues lurking in the "larger blocks"
mircea_popescu: also, it would be nice if you sourced the "More transactions means more memory for the UTXO database" objection correctly.
mircea_popescu: the camera led -> open mouth reflex.
asciilifeform: '99 might even be home to the original ssh meda-deathbug
mircea_popescu: nah. i imagine the ideal box from this perspective is something that hasn't been touched since 1999
asciilifeform: i sorta imagined that lamers might move the port instead of setting up keyed auth or whatnot
asciilifeform reads logs regularly and does not enjoy seeing them filled with megs of derp
mircea_popescu: not worth the hassle.
asciilifeform: funnily enough, i haven't seen a single ssh bruteforcebot on my regular boxes since moving ssh to nonstandard ports. did not expect this to have any effect, but it did. vanished. evidently the 'ancient art' of port scan has been forgotten? go figure.
mircea_popescu: however... look at the count of DSA 1kb keys IN THE STRONG SET
asciilifeform: i.e. that there is ample supply of morons with guessable pw
asciilifeform: the interesting thing re: ssh bruteforcers is the implication
mircea_popescu: yeah. they do more often than people realise.
asciilifeform: as a matter of fact, they did.
mircea_popescu: did they catch anything ?
asciilifeform: if tired of this, 'fail2ban' or the like.
asciilifeform: some of these are, properly speaking, 'worms' in the sense of needing no living operator at all
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: those are largely automatic - in the sense that every box that successfully breaks open gets to participate in the next round
mircea_popescu: in the sense that it's not common.
asciilifeform: wai wat, there are times when -no one- is ddosing trilema ?
asciilifeform: davout: kinda problematic if we can't initialize a blank drive from the pogo itself << yes, this will -have- to be fixed. but either a) later or b) someone not me
mircea_popescu: gotta feed the /r/buttheads
asciilifeform: 'Which means that specific parts will have to be highlighted later on, to be re-digested like those kernels of corn that you sometimes have to pick out of the toilet and eat all over again' << win
whaack: Well I say my analysis is good regardless of the intentions of the author
BingoBoingo: whaack: Distinct hazard of reading here. Sometime a person reads too deep, othertimes too shallow.
whaack: Is there a subtlety that the correct spelling of a word is, well, an oppinion and not a fact?
whaack: Is there a reason you guys spell opinion oppinion in http://thebitcoin.foundation/declaration.txt ?
davout: creating a smaller partition does not work either
davout: kinda problematic if we can't initialize a blank drive from the pogo itself
davout: because the partition was initially made without this option
davout: i also just added "CONFIG_FDISK_SUPPORT_LARGE_DISKS=y", maybe if i remove and re-add the partition it'll work
davout: after fdisk'ing a new partition on it, and toggling the MKFS option in the buildroot config I can now "# busybox mkfs.ext2 /dev/sda1"
davout: so, in my quest to getting the pogoplug working i'm at the step where i'm trying to get it to create an ext2 FS on the attached SATA drive
davout: with every day that passes the "get actual computer, fuck with gentoo" item climbs higher and higher on my todo list
davout clicks on the "Solve computer problems" button
assbot: The horror that is Ubuntu on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dU5RlS )
davout: what am i? the fucking ms office paperclip?
pete_dushenski: off to the farmer's market. bbiab.
pete_dushenski: "Anyway, correlation is not causation." << granted, funkenstein_, but some of these examples are a bit out to lunch.
pete_dushenski: then again, who the fuck really understands genetics ? certainly not 'the scientists'
pete_dushenski: "News flash: Culture is not genetic!" << guess it depends on what's meant by "culture". if you mean whether you eat for chopsticks or your hands, then sure, but if you mean predispositions for music, languages, fine arts, etc, it's less clear.
pete_dushenski: "Theorem 5: Jewish genetics cause superior intellect" << clearly, it's the converse that's true, funkenstein_ ;)
mircea_popescu: bitcoin IS the payment network. get with the program, get crushed, whatevs.
mircea_popescu: such derpage. the situation here isn't that fiat is in control, defines the words, and bitcoin aims to please.
assbot: The economics of sinking 20 MB Gavincoin blocks. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KTyKJP )
pete_dushenski: i loooove it when a derpy commenter drops a payload like this on my lap : http://www.contravex.com/2015/02/11/the-economics-of-sinking-20-mb-gavincoin-blocks/#comment-17319
pete_dushenski: chalk one up under 'best practise' and ignore the fact that i didn't think it could be done on 1.4.x :)
pete_dushenski: ah my mistake then.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron it's possible. not good practice in the sense that now more people can see it.
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: thx bb ! and wd on the title ;)
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: "let's vote in socialists because we've never had them before and we've always wanted them !"
asciilifeform: wonder if the germans will ask 'did we lose to -them- also'
pete_dushenski: "anyone but the british !"
pete_dushenski: "The canonical example is that intelligence is correlated with foot size. It's a fact." << i'm currently a size 11.5, was once 12.5... am i stupider now than i was then ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
danielpbarron: you just select stuff and it updates the url
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: "We wan't to kill them, not be them." << uh wan't ?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron sheeeit... that selection thing is the tits. how the hell does it work ?
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 13:06:41; gabriel_laddel: ;; rate funkenstein_ -1 author of a silly blogpost that reviews none of the assorted literature on the topic of choice, dances around the idea that perhaps experimental design is important and finally fails to conclude anything of significance.
mircea_popescu: "well technically an ISP is a service provided to the internet, like a phone service provider is one that provides phone service. Not services 'on' the internet, but to/from it, just a someone with a phone number is not a 'phone service provider', he is just some dude with a phone. Internet service provider provides internet services, hosting service provides hosting services. They are different."
mircea_popescu: "we are so right because we agree with each other on things! what things ? don't be pedantic. we're right in a way that goes beyond words!"
mircea_popescu: "Technically a hosting company is an ISP They provide Internet Serivces" / "Don't be pedantic. ISP has a meaning that goes beyond its words."
mircea_popescu: marx is not even in the same fucking ballpark.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-05-2015#1126409 << have these people actually ~even seen~ my beard ? i wish to know who the fuck has a more respectable beard than me. hegel ?
mircea_popescu: davout re the youtube : this very weird absurdist romanian comedian. i'm a fan. regularly comes up with indescribably weird shit, rarely sahre-able cause rarely in an actually spoken language.
davout: feels like a coolaid bukkake these days tbh
pete_dushenski: mike_c very kind of you to suggest me. lemme take a look at ol' usgavin's latest hatchet job and see if there's a qntra article lying in wait.
decimation: except they found they could graft european grapes on top of american rootstock - this is how nearly all wine grapes are grown today
decimation: in the same way, the early us was cursed with the root louse that ate wine roots - they became a 'beer culture' by default
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 16:15:33; mircea_popescu: anyway, the great love of beer in europe almost exactly maps to the late imperial recruiting grounds in europe.
decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125231 < also keep in mind, grapes don't grow very well in cold northern europe (aside from river valleys)
decimation: my impression of the uk is that they are the world's biggest group of drunks
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be authenticated to use the rating system.
gabriel_laddel: ;; rate funkenstein_ -1 author of a silly blogpost that reviews none of the assorted literature on the topic of choice, dances around the idea that perhaps experimental design is important and finally fails to conclude anything of significance.
gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user gabriel_laddel to user funkenstein_: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=gabriel_laddel&dest=funkenstein_ | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=funkenstein_ | Rated since: never
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 18:38:08; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-05-2015#1125148 << it's valid, but misleading. most of dna is "junk", or otherwise put "not directly obvious it actually does anything"
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-05-2015#1125516 << context: funkenstein_ was commenting a while back that jews are overrepresented in banking and then released a blog post (http://frass.woodcoin.org/intelligence-is-caused-by-big-feet-obesity-by-genetics/) that starts with "You may have some idea in your mind that things like cancer, intelligence, and obesity are in some way caused by genetics. By the time y
assbot: Introducing the Bitcoin ISP: invitation only, unknown hardware, no owned IP space, owner chooses the Linux distro, and support is only available on IRC by a lazy neckbeard. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8u30j )
gribble: The operation succeeded.
davout: funnily enough, the commit message doesn't even mention it
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 06:48:43; cazalla: is the bitcoin blocksize limit 1,000,000 or 1,048,576 bytes?
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 03:35:27; asciilifeform: my favourite apocryphal scene is where a german general, seeing french flags, asked 'did we lose to -them- as well' ?
assbot: Logged on 09-05-2015 01:42:24; danielpbarron: "This is frustrating; from a clean slate analysis of network health I think my conclusion would be to _decrease_ the limit below the current 300k/txn/day level." << I concur; 1MB is probably too large a block
cazalla: the actor, not the dentist in case you google it
assbot: I got a fever, and the only prescription, is more cowbell! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1IqSQeB )
mircea_popescu: and the only prescription is more cowbell!
mircea_popescu: in other news : agrippina the younger married (ahenobarbus) at the age of 13.
mircea_popescu: dude... you might be the first aspiring starlet / camgirl with ~natural~ tits that actually paid.
indiancandy1: they are
mircea_popescu: so what you gonna do now ? take the implants out and join the crochet club ?
mircea_popescu: i live the life of caesar.
cazalla: is the bitcoin blocksize limit 1,000,000 or 1,048,576 bytes?
assbot: Logged on 08-05-2015 16:55:03; pete_dushenski: i'm currently giving 'foundation training' a go. basically simplified yoga to specifically counter the effects of sitting at a computer all day (and all night).
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-05-2015#1125284 << I wish you luck, but ftw I'm not the sort of person to discuss this class of phenomenon. Even with all the disclaimers and knowing that Aaron isn't a fuckwit I still think of his post as "new age BS". I don't exercise, smoke, drink and eat whatever I want.
mircea_popescu: this is the left.
mircea_popescu: eh, not what i see. i see a bunch of poofters from the various rags trying to act all top shelf & culturful, in their straw hats and bedsheets.
decimation: yeah it's kinda on the outer ring of 'reactionary' sites as I recall
decimation: the ordinary gentlemen blog?
mircea_popescu: imagine if the naked woman being spied upon opened the door and invited the voyeur in.
mircea_popescu: power for fetish of power. that's hte point. they do not appreciate it specifically because it is exactly CONTRARY to what they wanted.
decimation: shouldn't the audience have appreciated it? they were watching a simulation of exactly what he acted out
decimation: one of my friends made a good point about that 'batman killer' who shot up the theater in denver
mircea_popescu: kinda why bitcoin is so important. kinda why the gavincoin disarray was so "nobody could have predicted" for the usg side.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, power based on it is unsurmountable, for this construct.
mircea_popescu: this'd be the problem. power derived from any sort of relationship with truth is anathema. because yes, truth alone frees no one.
mircea_popescu: "The resilience of this world (as with our own) is that the truth cannot disable it. Even when TV tells you TV is bad for you, you’ll nod and say “that’s so right” and queue up the next episode. This irony is not lost on the producers. “15 Million Merits” is a show about a show about how destructive shows are. We recognize this as truth and congratulate ourselves for noticing. But just like the hapless redh
decimation: 'the system' has achieved certain outcomes w.r.t. distribution of power, and does not care for those who use their levers to take power
mircea_popescu: i only watched that episode of it, but i have no idea how it could be worse than the stuff on tv.
mircea_popescu: the reason the system is so afraid of cohesive ideology is simply this - it knows it can destructure anything else.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's my idea of weev. neither trolling nor not trolling, merely trying to earn a living.
mircea_popescu: cazalla you ever seen that tv series about the people on the bikes ? guy with a suicide attempt gets his own show ?
cazalla: danielpbarron, i still don't know if he is serious or trolling with the race shit
decimation: The corollary being 'hate your kin'
decimation: it goes to the 'love of the distant ideal other' that libertardation promotes
decimation: it's been a hate thing for awhile, at least in the us
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, saying that white people should defend themselves / race is dying is a hate thing nao ?
danielpbarron: the "troll" in that article actually has me blocked
mircea_popescu: cazalla there's actually a hitler impersonator in timisoara
danielpbarron: "@BryceWeiner Thank you so much for helping Nick invent a digital currency for our local high school. Hope they can make it work"
asciilifeform: they are merely imitating usa
mircea_popescu: so they pay 2mn pesos for an apartment worth maybe 18k dollars, and they imagine that there's a difference between this and just gifting it to the government.
mircea_popescu: because this is how fucktarded they are : they actually believe that you can conventionally enact investments. "everyone does it"
mircea_popescu: they can't take money ouyt of the country, so they've decided, in their typical stupidity, that they will "invest" it in local real estate
mircea_popescu: there's 40mn total. half of them are italians, the other half are lawyers.
asciilifeform: in there
asciilifeform: i thought there were 5mil of'em or the like
mircea_popescu: for one, the gringo club is about 50 people.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...these people are already living a degree of magnitude above their means, hallucinating 100's of k's real estate values...' << why such certainty that it is hallucinated? is it possible that american escapees genuinely bid up the cost ?
mircea_popescu: they go out and buy empanadas.
mircea_popescu: takes the proceeds and pays "salaries" for "public servants"
mircea_popescu: they probably do.
asciilifeform: (i could almost bet they eat better than i!)
asciilifeform: what do they eat?
asciilifeform: 'in my time, there wasn't this poppycock'
asciilifeform: the public data suggests 'useful idiot' rather than asset
mircea_popescu: possibly the most impressive success of us diplomacy to date - the recruitment of beria.
asciilifeform: other than his - unrelated - works on su military intelligence (from which he was an escapee)
mircea_popescu: had beria not been pro-us, but symetrically anti, the fulda gap'd have been taken in a week and well... russia from sea to sea.
asciilifeform: and did not turn up any which had been translated (at the time) to engl.
asciilifeform: i tried to track down which of these mr mold may have read,
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Because he was already paused. re-arming the Germans would have probably taken some time
asciilifeform: cribbed from rezun (pen name 'suvorov', in imitation of the general)
mircea_popescu: the one point of danger was once stalin died.
decimation: yarvin was also pushing the 'stalin was gonna attack' theory
asciilifeform: (use the germans while there's still something to use)
asciilifeform: why the pause ?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Not the part where he planned to resign. More in line with MP, if he lived he would have started the next war by July.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo iirc his proposition to just bomb the suckers and ride tanks to china is well documented.
decimation: I recall a post about the us ambassador trying to become stalin's boyfriend
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> or patton's. << I'm a Patton truther. He was assasinated to keep the war from running another decade,
decimation: it seems the more likely explanation is yarvin's supposition - russia was playing 'hard to get' and fdr and his staff wanted russia 'even more'
asciilifeform: my favourite apocryphal scene is where a german general, seeing french flags, asked 'did we lose to -them- as well' ?
asciilifeform: the hero's entire intelligence mission was to determine which german is leading the 'separate peace talks'
asciilifeform: popular enough concept that it formed the entire backplot of '17 moments of spring' (su mega-cult-classic film)
asciilifeform: though the 'fight russia' part was more churchill's concept
decimation: my understanding is that most of the german units late in the war were actively trying to surrender to the us, so that they could fight russia together
asciilifeform: weak voodoo, these.
decimation: too bad tom cruise didn't successfully kill hitler on the 20 juli plot
decimation: it seems likely the thought would have occured to him anyway
asciilifeform knows of no reason to suppose that he actually said this, but it goes well with the rest of the scene

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