mircea_popescu: either seem about as vaguely related.
trinque: the guy was some cracked weirdo with no coherent reason for attacking here
assbot: Daniel P. Barron on Twitter: "It's foolish to put any trust in the decision making skills of a mentally retarded former congressman (@GabbyGiffords) regarding our rights." ... ( http://bit.ly/1F3lLTD )
trinque: from one of the shitty desert states
mircea_popescu: a senator got shot in the face ?
trinque: who gives a shit what a chicken sandwich company says about anything other than the sandwiches?
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron what was that company that was "under fire" for something or other to do with gay marriage, ended up with booming sales ?
mircea_popescu is not that crazy about the workout flats.
mircea_popescu: in other news : http://40.media.tumblr.com/e2ee7e04c2577655bc8aa69b393caf58/tumblr_mesvhfBhNW1rpfeuyo1_1280.jpg where have all the female bellies went ?
Kalki: really enjoying the writing!
mircea_popescu: "a bunch of fat slobs with too much time on their hands and a govt-subsidized internet connection are mashing keyboards" ?
ben_vulpes: with babes and children swinging from the guy wires!
mircea_popescu: in other news, "We always used condoms before, and we both agreed he's only going to fuck my ass now that we're married. We both love the symbolism I'll be shitting out his weak sperm while superior black men's seed will soak into my womb as nature intended."
ben_vulpes: i have a romantic attachment to the atomic dirigible!
mircea_popescu: there's a reason drug cartels use subs not blimps
assbot: Logged on 12-05-2015 00:22:47; decimation: suddenly flying r/c aircraft went from pleasant hobby to malevolent drone warfare upon the people
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-05-2015#1128674 << not suddenly. once the usg got involved. it has the shidas touch.
mod6: alright, so I'm gonna wrap up this gentoo stage3 guide, and then I'll dig in and see if I can find what's going on in there.
asciilifeform: submarine has the virtue of not falling down and exploding if it runs out of juice
asciilifeform: consider autonomous submarines (torpedo-sized) alternatively. far easier to hide in the ocean, esp. if you're small, electric, and in no hurry whatsoever - than in the air.
asciilifeform: (flight, rather)
ben_vulpes: (i'm not ignorant of the radar issue, for the record. i just so happen to think the ars response would be "nothing could really be that big" and other interesting things."
asciilifeform: mod6: the obvious steps are 1) determine if still leaks (tentatively, i will say that it does not) and 2) determine wtf is eating the ram
mod6: but anyway, yeah if it's still too large for the pogo, i guess that doesn't help us exactly.
ben_vulpes: "the prinary concerns of the Air Force as of 1010 are the establishment of a radar network for control of the country's airspace..." << hyuu
mod6: so i guess I'm wrong then, if that 3255776 bytes is actually available
mod6: yeah, i can say, that it looks like (from my testing) that it did use pretty much almost all of the RAM available to my environment.
mod6: I did look through them.
assbot: Logged on 28-03-2015 02:23:30; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: pigeons: let's scratch the arithmetic itch. approx. 8400 km from me to b-a. a LiMnO2 (non-rechargeable) battery yields approx. 400 Wh/kg.
mod6: Todays update of v0.5.3.1+Orphanage_Thermonuke: http://dpaste.com/2V038DK.txt [ Full Sync Achieved ]
ben_vulpes: i recall the one where you lamented nobody doing transoceanic trips with dirigibles
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes missed the thread where we 'did' this one ?
asciilifeform: i fully expect that being so much as found with a model propeller will be grounds for '25 to life' after the first quadcopter explodes somewhere interesting
decimation: suddenly flying r/c aircraft went from pleasant hobby to malevolent drone warfare upon the people
ben_vulpes: "either build it by hand or lease time on someone else's system"?
decimation: actually I think aircraft could become much more 'personal', but usg has sat upon them
asciilifeform: except the buggers (for various reasons, not all 'evil') - won.
asciilifeform: ^ these get nowhere near enough museum space. the 'boring' car-like airplanes that 'everyone will have' in the future-of-the-past.
asciilifeform: 'The kit includes all components necessary for construction of the aircraft body up to the firewall, pre-cut and pre-bent.' (http://www.tillamookair.com/chris-teena-mini-coupe)
decimation: I went to the boeing museum in seattle once, it was pretty neat too. you could walk through nixon's air force one
ben_vulpes: the former has lotsa rokkits!
decimation: most of them are drunk, live in depressing hovels
decimation: yeah but the chips & salsa were good
decimation: plus, all 50000 tourists want to huddle in the air & space museum, nobody gives a shit about indians
decimation: asciilifeform: as I recall they now have a joint strike fighter at dulles - with the vertical takeoff variant
decimation: I found the best place to shelter was the indian museum - they have a great cafe that serves 'authentic' indian food. I had chips & salsa and a beer.
asciilifeform: so in the 'drones' hall, they had an 'rq-3a' ( http://airandspace.si.edu/collections/artifact.cfm?object=nasm_A20070230000 ) and its arse and mouth were glued shut
decimation: weirdly there aren't any decent restrants/cafes within a short walk
decimation: once I was trapped on the mall during a summer thunderstorm
asciilifeform: decimation: i recall when the guy was on tour
asciilifeform: other funny bit re: museum - they had a 'drones' exhibit, with all the major well-known types
asciilifeform: there's a whole park outside
decimation: nah they have bushes outside
trinque: they tell you specifically to *bury* it? like a cat turd?
decimation: I bet if you went down to the grounds with a metal detector you could find 1000 knives
asciilifeform: hilariously, the bouncer at first threw me out - on account of my very small pocket knife. had to go and bury it.
decimation: actually I think the best aircraft museum in the us is the air force museum in dayton, oh
decimation: yeah they update stuff every once in awhile
decimation: oh the one downtown?
asciilifeform: hadn't been there since was a schoolboy, and went again
decimation: the udvar-hazy museum?
asciilifeform: this one was in the museum, but somehow i never noticed it
decimation: where was the me262? dulles airport museum?
asciilifeform: then you sit and go, 'hm, wtf, how'
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 22:58:48; mircea_popescu: nevertheless, ~IF~ you do get some tomatoes to grow, they are yours.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128547 << to complete the painting, you build a telescope - out of sight of the demented old bastard - and see thermonuked wasteland around, no tomato in sight. then you build a spark gap radio and discover that on other side of planet, there are a few quasi-functioning tomato gardens. perhaps one or two per continent.
trinque checks the climacs page for activity
trinque: as you can see, the suit's perfectly conformed to his unique form
trinque: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/e1/78/20/e17820c0bf8a3fb9cf56dbe83abf6a55.jpg << I found another.
decimation: jurov: re: st. cyril & methoius < apparently it depends on whether you use the julian calendar
cazalla: reports from earlier in the year suggest 0.05% on deposits up to $250,00 AUD
trinque: oh no, the shitposting... it's leaking!
cazalla: and with the imminent aussie budget due, muh country slide further down the drain.. "A new tax on bank deposits to build a fund that could be used in the event of a banking collapse. In a handy little boost, the money would also sit on the budget balance sheet. "
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes if only that guy with the younger queen of spades gf had had the sense to do this, you know ? "hey, i just own the team. go fire my racism guy if you don';t like my being racist"
ben_vulpes: "noice likkle exchange ew've got there"
mircea_popescu: because that's totally how the mob works, "hey, i don't owe you money, that was my other personality / sister / neighbour"
ben_vulpes: b-b-but that's the compliant guy's job!
ben_vulpes: no, the *sucking*
mircea_popescu: now... to answer this you're telling me that you wouldn't be doing the planting directly ? what difference does it make.
mircea_popescu: the first place, and may or may not be inhabited by poisonous alien flying earthworms.
mircea_popescu: so, you wish to grow tomatoes. you can either grow tomatoes on land owned by old man KYC, who offers the following deal : "you may [pretend like] you're growing tomatoes here, provided you suck my cock for longer than you derp in the garden, and if any tomatoes grow up you owe me twice as many tomatoes on top of those tomatoes", or you could grow them on unrelated land. which may or may not be able to grow tomatoes in
mircea_popescu: otherwise, lawsky has his own guy that bribed him to do it, and whoever else has whoever else, and none of those schmucks is you.
mircea_popescu: quite. and exactly the same with kyc. if you implement the us rules, you're stuck working for the us. it probably doesn't want you to be doing this, and consequently, you are only allowed to "do it" if you don't actually do it, and for as long as you bring money from home.
williamdunne: 23:50:31 - mircea_popescu: prolly end up richer than me. or dead, whichever comes first. <<< we're doing the KYC bs on the first exchange
williamdunne: 23:50:20 - mircea_popescu: if you're serious about this, go to a country that's not part of the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
williamdunne: Sorry was just going over the logs didn't see your message
williamdunne: 19:22:10 - davout: williamdunne: you scared me with that SSL shit << it was stupidity at its finest, pretty sure they only implemented GPG for another buzzword
williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127940 << as in, customer can opt to have no communication with exchange outside of pgp ? <<< All email communications were encrypted, and they could communicate with me directly in an encrypted manner. No order entry tho
mircea_popescu: if you're serious about this, go to a country that's not part of the usg, run a proper exchange. no kyc/bs.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Mm soft-launch of the one that I shall be re-launching soonish ^tm >>> i was thinking hm, williamdunne ran an exchange
mircea_popescu: odds of that are low, seeing how a) they're too stupid-proud to do it and b) we got better shit to do than maintain dead forks.
davout: it would be pretty lulzy to actually fix it in 0.5.3.1 and then "backport" it to 0.11
mircea_popescu: they have a solid tradition of covering old shit that;s starting to stink with freshly laid shit.
mircea_popescu: davout among other things, yes.
davout: "because otherwise one would notice that the synchronization protocol is absolutely and completely broken"
davout: also i finally understand why the power rangers think checkpoints are a good idea
mircea_popescu: * jurov proposes opening D.GBTC to close the circle :DDD << i would, if i didn't know in advance that the entire charade is entirely outside of any sort of economical considerations.
jurov: pity we don't have TaT around anymore. he could have pitched altcoin to them
davout: thestringpuller: "We need something like testnet, just not testnet." <<< the thing is that testnet doesn't even behave like actual bitcoin, because magic rules, because reasons
cazalla: anyway, having your step son shovel rocks sounds like a good way for the guy to bang your mum without you interrupting
cazalla: and see a therapist :P
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 20:05:16; ascii_field: why the fuck are you telling yourself to do things you're clearly no good for ? << who wants to be biodiesel ?
jurov proposes opening D.GBTC to close the circle :DDD
jurov: we celebrate these two at 5th of July
mircea_popescu: the woman's sin ? she just... didn't think very much of random teenagers. this, terribru sin for the teenagers in question.
mircea_popescu fondly recalls elena dragos. woman was a bit of a famous thing in cluj at the time. an entire year, 180ish students HATED the woman.
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> at some point, once you discover that X isn't a proper master, nor Y nor Z, the realisation is forcibly dawned on you that perhaps you just suck. << the popular version of this was, iirc, 'the bad dancer is hindered by his own arse'
trinque: the difference between the naive, single-step "compassion" and the longer view, which involves pain, suffering, so on, but a better outcome
trinque: yeah nobody I've learned from was a sweetheart
mircea_popescu: exactly. which is the biggest problem for the touchy-feely types. absolutely HORRID people can make exceptional teachers
trinque: right, the pile of rocks could've been a papua new guinean tradition nobody had a coherent reason for
mircea_popescu: X is responsible to passing the right data, not to "passing the right data in the right internal context"
mircea_popescu: think of it as separate machines. what the meaning of data is in X, as it passes it to Y, matters little for Y. and vice-versa.
trinque: thought the guy was just having a twisted laugh watching me shovel
mircea_popescu: their notion of rape, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: at some point, once you discover that X isn't a proper master, nor Y nor Z, the realisation is forcibly dawned on you that perhaps you just suck.
trinque: heh there you go
trinque: also teaches you to stop being a pussy in the face of every hard task
trinque: there was a backhoe nearby
mircea_popescu: some other times, you suck.
mircea_popescu: and no, you CAN NOT establish if X is or is not "master" by reading the orders.
mircea_popescu: there is some value in the "go reinstall windows for the 11th time". the only issue is, who gives the order.
ascii_field: cabbage (or the proverbial potato-peel-detail) are points in a progression to somewhere.
mircea_popescu: a vast majority of the great she-cooks i know (younger than me) started their cook life by being made to cut cabbage, and beaten for cutting it badly. and made to cut more.
ascii_field: 'we go to war with the army we have'
ascii_field: this is supposed to teach the value of following a master ?
ascii_field: what of the masters, whose teachings consist of 'go reinstall winblows for the 111th time' ?
mircea_popescu: in many a young man's life, it's the first time when someone says "DO X!"
mircea_popescu: prolly the principal value of #b-a.
ascii_field: very few folks have the good fortune of a proper apprenticeship
trinque: this is not to say that college cannot provide the experience, but that the shitty one I was paid to attend did not
jurov: yes, the diffrence is my older dudes were asking me something they *did not* ever do themselves.
trinque: mircea_popescu: exactly right though; when college didn't provide that experience for me, I left it and went to work for the entrepreneurs I knew, learned there
jurov was asked to extract relevant code from libxpm so that they can have color icons without dynamically linking it
jurov: lmao. it involved building the X, literally
trinque: in the case where the older dude has made something of himself already, he knows tasks the novice won't ever think of doing himself, novice comes away having found out he can build an X
jurov: maybe it was not the right older dude
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i'd say "wow, check out the weird divide between eastern europe and the us", but it's not it. tons upon tons of livresque reference to this exact thing, in english too.
trinque: sure, make candles of 'em; but if we're going into long-term biodiesel production human stock's not nearly the best choice
ascii_field: while the biodiesel still has arms and legs, it does not want to go to the reactor pot.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but, to quote the standard ru prison tattoo, 'dum spiro spero'
trinque: on the one hand this is "what's to be done with all these walmart morons" and the other is "what's to be done with healthy humans"
ascii_field: why the fuck are you telling yourself to do things you're clearly no good for ? << who wants to be biodiesel ?
mircea_popescu: trinque well entirely different consideration, this. i was looking at it from the subjective perspective. nevermind what the world tells you to do. why the fuck are you telling yourself to do things you're clearly no good for ? it's as if at the orchestra auditions everyone wanted to play the instruments they sucked at.
trinque: mircea_popescu: point of my statement was that if the person's put to what they're actually best suited for, their opinion if it matters at all isn't worth hearing until they've felt what it's like
mircea_popescu: ascii_field for as long as i can remember, the entire point, of school, and of intellectual activity of young people, was to find wtf they're good for.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field which part ? trinque sure, yes. so then, depends who you ask ?
mircea_popescu: contrary to what the guy claims, the bugs he found appear to be in the power rangers "consensus" library, not in conformals'.
trinque: anyone remotely useful tends to actually enjoy the structure of being given a worthwhile task
mircea_popescu: "TLDR I ran afl-fuzz against libbitcoinconsensus to discover interesting Bitcoin scripts and used them to search for Bitcoin reimplementations vulnerable to forking. This discovered two bugs in btcd by Conformal. See the bitcoinconsensus_testcases repository for the discovered Bitcoin scripts."
mircea_popescu: ascii_field dude i must have missed some memos here. last i recall, that was pretty much the only point of interest. i blinked and now everyone seems to be running around trying to pretend like they can do things they most obviously can't.
trinque: ah I dunno, depends when you ask them
ascii_field: i can't imagine too many folks would be the least bit interested in discovering what they are 'best suited for'
mircea_popescu: "why do you think you're an olympic athlete ?" "~~~BECAUSE~~~ I'm a quadriplegic. If I weren't, I wouldn't give a shit about the olympics, like everyone else."
mircea_popescu: guy in the oval office'd be best suited to carry heavy loads. stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: just because some twerp is in the doctor's room at the hospital doth not mean he's a doctor.
mircea_popescu: it works like so : the things people do shed no light on the things people can do. not anymore, at any rate.
ascii_field: it 'works' by imbeciles shouting at one another, aha
mircea_popescu: you don't understand how the world works.
ascii_field: which is the one and only pill against.
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trinque: undefined in js means the property or varname hasn't been given a value, whereas null is a value meaning... no value
mircea_popescu: it's just elbrus for the rest of us.
mircea_popescu: (obv null and undefined each get their own special equalities)
mircea_popescu: that's what i like about "typed" languages, you know ? if (i = "" or i =="" or i === "" or i = 0 or i == 0 or i === 0 or i &= null or i ^= undefined) fuck your mother.
ascii_field: poor schmucks are almost certainly running 'systemd' from the looks of that demo screen
jurov: sooo, russia and china put export embargo to their crown jewels.
ascii_field remembers the astonishing - even for that era - hype around 'transmeta'
ascii_field: <mircea_popescu> bitcoin is the gold standard for everything else. that's actually what the word bitcoin means << then very clearly we don't have bitcoin yet
ascii_field: the proverbial wall-drilling blades of grass, aha
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the only reason you're not walking through walls is also, that you're pushing with the strength of a child.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is the gold standard for everything else. that's actually what the word bitcoin means.
mircea_popescu: o, they be pushing.
mircea_popescu: you don't want the hard sort of thing you're thinking about. you just want an impredictable sort of tandem.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field fuzzily, is the point.
mircea_popescu: clearly the largest use of tandem computing in the history of humanity, by any measure, by a very fat margin.
mircea_popescu: orly ? so how do the bitcoin nodes tandem ?
ascii_field: just the way it works.
mircea_popescu: intent being the general mark of impending failure.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> it's so stupid it can not be expressed in other words. "x86 sparc" << lol
mircea_popescu: it's so stupid it can not be expressed in other words. "x86 sparc"
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i don't get why they'd make a x86 sparc. << this is scary. i'd think you'd lose all ops/clock-cycle optimizations doing some translation between the two right?
mircea_popescu: (this is not as lulzy as it sounds. there MUST be a fractal pattern somewhere that also makes a machine)
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:41:50; ascii_field: from standpoint of boobytraps, an example of 'worth writing home about' would be a machine 1) with pedantically open spec, to transistor level 2) with provisions for tandemming with implementations of same by other, foreign makers
mircea_popescu: independence is built EXACTLY out of having access to all the flavours of idiocy
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:41:02; ascii_field: at any rate, the reason to hold off creaming your pants on this occasion, is that 1) it's yet another von neumann turd 2) enjoy trading usg boobytraps for ru variant
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128070 << this is much more valuable than it looks. run them in tandem.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128065 << then again that's how the russians sold cars, too.
ascii_field: they did it for same reason dec included x86 translator with alpha
mircea_popescu: i don't get why they'd make a x86 sparc.
ascii_field: so from what i can see, 1) they cut every possible corner 2) rolled in x86 because unspoken 'winblows 4ever'
ascii_field: and implication from brochure is that there is no native linux port, but uses x86 translatron
mircea_popescu: maybe just for the demo units
ascii_field: e.g., they appear to use foreign nic
ascii_field: but i see a number of oddities right off the bat
ascii_field: by the time we find it, it's ripe
mircea_popescu: give it a coupla years, they won't even be able to fix anything anymore because of deployment
mircea_popescu: ascii_field they're prolly looking atm.
mircea_popescu: there is some residual interest in exploring this thing, because it will definitely become the standard in ru bureaucracy, and knowing its holes will allow us to complete our collection of michelle obama cockinmouth.jpg with all the random hos putin manhandles.
mircea_popescu: so basically they can only sell to rug.
ascii_field: probably answer is 'not made in cn, therefore add a zero to cost'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i can bitch at someone there to buy it, i imagine. prolly so can you
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: buy elbrus ... << ru corps only is the advertised offer
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 17:18:59; ascii_field: to the end that thread re: whether 'we' will buy something is really a thread about whether mircea_popescu might buy something, and ought to be labeled correctly
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128018 << says the guy who bought & brought an entire fucking case of pogos, lol.
mircea_popescu: you know i *am* willing to buy one, host it in the ukr lands closeby, and so on.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field wait, so you're not gonna write an inquiry to the elbrus folks ?
mircea_popescu: i thought you meant the site. gotta love those girls, great sports.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128006 << that gyfcat thing is old, one of the sluts was using it to greatly impress.
davout: (the pki stuff)
mircea_popescu: im not going to even go into the whole pki nonsense, too lazy atm.
mircea_popescu: yes, they used to be more expensive, and have been alligning to the mpex price over the years. nevertheless...
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:58:26; williamdunne: MPEx did pioneer many things in Bitcoin derivatives and they deserve credit for that. However, I find it unlikely that an exchange with such a high up-front fee just to participate will ever find mainstream acceptance.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127967 << what are you, nuts ? no exchange with a lower fee EVER, in the entire history of finance, gained mainstream acceptance.
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 16:39:56; bitcoinquestions: Came to post this link, but you beat me to it. OP take the time to read this. Derp. << Do you feel the comment is pointless because OP is likely a bot etc.? Or do you feel the article is irrelevant to the matter at hand?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1127949 << i feel the comments are the only good stuff on that reddit piece, which is amusing seeing how they both got 0 votes.