gribble: You rated user princessnell on Thu Jun 12 02:00:30 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: first princess of bitcoin.
assbot: You rated user princessnell on 12-Jun-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: coulda been a contender..
gribble: princessnell was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 31 weeks, 1 day, 9 hours, 36 minutes, and 15 seconds ago: <princessnell> oh the andreas vid
williamdunne: If people could see that beauty is on the inside then most of the models in the world would have Down syndrome <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Oh dear jesus. Too dumb to be dicks?
mircea_popescu: this has to come back to lizards and the jews doing 9/11 somehow
BingoBoingo: trinque: Still better than the hamplanets who blame their genetics. i.imgur.com/dl09rDa.png
mircea_popescu: ki forum made a single post about her there"
mircea_popescu: "That name might sound familiar to you and that is because that's the imageboard full of suicidal virgins that Zoe Quinn accused of harassing her to try and promote her game. Which was ironic because this led to people trolling a forum full of suicidal people in the name of promoting a game about dealing with depression. Even more funny is the fact that Zoe faked the whole thing for attention after a troll from the CWC
ben_vulpes: steam, the once-universal tech
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i just meant, apparently the whole world was long ago united by the heating element unicity
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [00:01] http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1048m3cVm1rqclrto1_1280.jpg << ah, those old style heating elements. pretty much every single room in eastern europe / european russia had one of those. EXACTLY like that one. << the one in my boyhood room had a fancy metal box over it!
trinque: that'll go out at the hour
trinque: jurov: I dicked it up messing with it and it made a new sqlite db nobody further down the assembly line cared about
mircea_popescu is kind-of curious who's gonna be the bitcoin warhole.
mircea_popescu: williamdunne we dun have to like/dislike the same people yo.
copypaste: I can't access the tables via psql. Are we running this on a backup?
copypaste: If you want real lulz, read them trying to process payments: https://github.com/gratipay/gratipay.com/issues/3415
williamdunne: Mmm wasn't random, but yeah that wasn't the smartest move
mircea_popescu: williamdunne a lot of posturing originally, also the famous incident of using his blockchain.info credentials to spy on random people.
williamdunne: Don't think he's ever done much more than that though, has he? Other than a shop or summin
copypaste: Most of them went out of business.
mircea_popescu: i kinda miss the old derpage days. used to have a bitcoin jesus, now all we get is some obscure godfather pedo.
mircea_popescu: amusingly enough, a year later he actually is pretty well dead, as far as these things go.
copypaste: Fixing the archive is more urgent right now since it has a deadline.
copypaste: With the keyring on it.
williamdunne: And then requests were sent between the webservers and that server for things like signing
copypaste: Well that only affects singing. Since I'm the only one that can sign
mircea_popescu: how do you handle your concurrency then ?
copypaste: Sure, there's another problem though - we have 3 servers that run PHP, so I need to sync the keyring across them, hehe.
williamdunne: copypaste: I've done the everyone can put a key thing before, I can help you with that if you want..
copypaste: The system also would not handle concurrency well, due to the fact that it comes up with the ID by doing ls, then finding the biggest numbered text file in _g and adding one to it.
mircea_popescu: i dun recall there being anything prewritten for that.
mircea_popescu: you can prolly steal the assbot/gribble code, depending what you run
copypaste: That's how I sign. I just haven't implemented the "everyone can put a key" thing yet.
copypaste: Yes, but not immediate plans. When the system is finalized you would be able to upload a key, have it put in the server's keyring, then paste a signed message into the box. You would put the keyID in the email field and it would sign.
mircea_popescu: copypaste ah ok. any plans to open them ?
copypaste: GPG signatures arne't open to the public yet, just me.
copypaste: 300x100 is the banner size.
cazalla: what size do the banners need to be
mircea_popescu: copypaste how does the gpg signature thing werk btw ?
asciilifeform still not grasped what, precisely, was the appeal of '8chan'
asciilifeform recalls the steam heat thread
mircea_popescu: the chan of things!
asciilifeform: jurov: move to 8chan? << share the lsd ?
mircea_popescu: i haven't ever subscribed either
williamdunne: To be perfectly honest the main motivation is knowing who reads my blog
williamdunne: How long can the cow be milked for until the udder goes dry? Will it next be .isawful, .robspeople, .killskittens?
williamdunne: joecool: Have you heard of the .sucks one? Its pretty clever. They're charging something like $4k to buy in the pre-order period so that brands will buy it before someone creates yourservice.sucks
mircea_popescu: i don't think "the industree" of internet advertising was humiliated nearly as badly b4
williamdunne: Thought someone had to make use of the gtlds
williamdunne: joecool: thethug.life you mean?
williamdunne: " The official currency of The Most Serene Republic" - CopyPaste do you recognize the most serene republic?
copypaste: and then
copypaste: there are also JSON for every thread
copypaste: there is for example
jurov: mod6 ben_vulpes asciilifeform why don't we throw out the mailing list and move to 8chan?
mircea_popescu: mod6 https://8ch.net/btc/index.html << might need a few reloads, but teh republican banners, they're there.
cazalla: is it strange that muh node use to field 40-50 active connections but the past few days tops 100?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: alternatively, the clearsigned text can be easily saved as attachment
trinque: but the encoding thing will also have to be accounted for
trinque: I'll bet what it's actually barfing on is that <pre> on the same line as the beginning of the message
trinque tosses that on the deedbot- requests pile and gets back to work
trinque: yeah you're right, this is going to be a pain in the dick
trinque: alright private beatings then that'll work
davout: ImNotInTheMoodException
jurov: http://ml.therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-May/000087.html yes it's only here. but i'm not asking poor deedbot to munch this.
trinque: hm, it might be useful to deed-ify the list of key fingerprints periodically
trinque: so I'll actually verify the thing
trinque: sorry bout that; that should be the last time it does that.
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Why did blacks stop caring about respectability and acceptability in USistan ? Because there’s none to be had. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/10/why-did-blacks-stop-caring-about-respectability-and-acceptability-in-usistan-because-theres-none-to-be-had/
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] Anyone have a single Elbrus ARM-401 for sale? Mebbe a 4.4 Server? It’s for the children. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/12/anyone-have-a-single-elbrus-arm-401-for-sale-mebbe-a-4-4-server-its-for-the-children/
deedbot-: [Trilema] The Fetlife Meatlist - Volume XI - http://trilema.com/2015/the-fetlife-meatlist-volume-xi/
trinque: what else should go in there?
jurov: this looks like full profit to full shares, so the outcome is correct
jurov: previously he paid half of profit to half of the shares
pete_dushenski alrighty, the town beckons. cheers!
trinque: do I have to install the damn tenyks-feeds plugin too :P
pete_dushenski: on vacay on public wifi atm, but i snuck in some time to organise the '21' convo from the other day into a post.
ben_vulpes: mother. fucking. liars.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 17:58:47; ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/doug-williams-guilty-plea.pdf << mega-l0l. i, for one, have never seen the 'plead guilty' form, and it is lulzy
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133107 << the mere fact that it's a form...
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 17:10:52; joecool: after which he promptly fell of the face of the earth
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 16:28:13; mats: rich has other good stuff on his site if you're into low level exploitation
mircea_popescu: "The nude self gesture takes place in complete darkness, and everyone is nude, with only one candle or very small source of light for each individual performance. Each student can select where everyone will be during the performance and where the performance will take in the performance studio -- just as they are able to do for all the performances they do.
mircea_popescu: ww1, ww2, whatevs. but what do the derps know.
mircea_popescu: because yeah, totally, the western allies of romania so very protected it from russia historically.
mircea_popescu: heck, to protect them from russia.
mircea_popescu: but the derps really really wanted it.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:53; asciilifeform: want to know what you 'own' in usa? try and stop paying the property tax.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133044 << amusingly, one of the things in the 2000s romania was, nobody was paying property tax because fuck you
ascii_field: pointing out that in su case this resulted in a very brutal dekulakization ('but at least it wasn't the state doing it')
trinque: they'll instead do some incomprehensible refinancing thing where nobody wins
mircea_popescu: it's the right way to do this.
mircea_popescu: it's how the greek's do it. its how ex soviet empire did it.
mircea_popescu: then die.
assbot: Logged on 07-04-2015 00:10:01; mircea_popescu: just like having a car doesn't alow having gasoline. it's true that often people who have cars also independently have gasoline, but the two are fundamentally unrelated, and there is such a thing as the fool's breakdown, ie, car's outta gas on the side of hte road.
ascii_field: in ru they did a thing called 'shock therapy' - engineered economic rape to dislodge the 'owners'
mircea_popescu: derps didn't understand they were i nthe business of sorting out their home ownership
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Ah, I assumed its new as just saw on twitter for the first time
mircea_popescu: at some point there was a bank on every corner FOR THIS REASON
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 14:19:08; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132926 << one of the mantras my parents liked to repeat to me was 'in ussr no one owned their home' - mega-l0l, no?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1133041 << the lol-ziest part is that upon collapse, inhabitants "bought" them from govt, making an eastern europe much socially richer than anyone else in the world.
williamdunne: BitOtter - The Bitcoin Options Trade Tool for MPEx
mircea_popescu: how the heck ?!
williamdunne: >If you've just had a baby, try to refrain from referring to the event as a "new product launch".
mircea_popescu: that thing with the color blue really brings back memories.
mircea_popescu: jurov the terms are that you just get it, for now.
jurov: what are the terms?
fluffypony: "@dmansouri, it worked! THANKSS!!!!!! but now I've lost support for the color blue. :/"
fluffypony: "There's a known bug with the IE5 bootloader that's preventing multi-threaded access to the cloud partition. Workaround is to enable JSON override mode and recompile the WSDL. Once you've done that, just deploy the __kernelNode binary to the socket listener, restart the Flash daemon and refresh your browser. That should take care of the error. I know, kind of an annoying hack, but it seems to work."
fluffypony: the commits are awesome
trinque: >Does a bear have regular bowel movements in the cool breeze of a grassy woodland area?
mircea_popescu: and yeah, re jurov's link : totally, getting "regulated" would deeply benefit bitcoin. it's not like MPEx being put in charge of the US financial markets would be a marked improvement for the us financial markets. o no, it's the other way around dontcha know.
fluffypony: "60% of the time it works every time"
ben_vulpes: "the fun, simple, flexible JavaScript test framework"
davout: i'm pretty busy learning C these days
mircea_popescu: then again, he didn'y use rails.
davout: "He was one of the few commanders in history to never be defeated on the field." <<< yea, sounds about right!
mircea_popescu: in other news http://36.media.tumblr.com/cd2581c62617b5a509994b1e6cd4c4dd/tumblr_nbetwj6JLL1t0bn4lo1_1280.jpg : WOMENZ! WHAY U SO SHORT!
gribble: Louis-Nicolas Davout - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis-Nicolas_Davout>; Davout & Napoleon - The Napoleon Series: <http://www.napoleon-series.org/ins/scholarship97/c_davout.html>; Ask MHQ: Why Wasn't Davout at Waterloo? - History Net: <http://www.historynet.com/davout-at-waterloo.htm>
mircea_popescu: napoleon's general that won the battle of jena for the confused four footer's name was davout.
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/causes-and-purposes/#comment-114187 << which reminds me, davout do you know who the most famous guy by that name was ?
Namworld: He often lays just over my shoulder on the dresser
Namworld: The city isn't a nice place for cats to be outside.
jurov: then some obsure project or investment succeeds and all is allright
chetty: lmao, no I didnt make a plea deal (those are not legal after all) and if I lied on this form I am guilty of perjury, they get you no matterwhat.
trinque: the shit accumulates
Namworld: The quality of posts seems to have dropped even further. No one seems to understand or have a clue about anything Bitcoin.
ascii_field: http://cryptome.org/2015/05/doug-williams-guilty-plea.pdf << mega-l0l. i, for one, have never seen the 'plead guilty' form, and it is lulzy
trinque: joecool: moral there is that 10 trades shouldn't build enough trust in a person that they can take out 100k :p
joecool: whaack: i'm not sure how those fingerprints work, but the way gribble does it is different than assbot
gribble: User 'joecool', with keyid 4A169504F495E1D1, fingerprint D7570DDF7F8527E085A6CBA44A169504F495E1D1, and bitcoin address 1JoecooLw8qohGrFrmhCcPN6Gw355FjxBc, registered on Thu Apr 28 01:50:04 2011, last authed on Fri May 15 13:07:38 2015. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=joecool . Currently authenticated from hostmask joecool!~joecool@no-sources/joecool .
gribble: User 'whaack', with keyid 54D96EEE73C04299, fingerprint D1D04E15A322737EEE1BDA13D344A7036FE8E4D6, and bitcoin address None, registered on Mon Feb 9 23:36:17 2015, last authed on Mon Feb 9 23:36:17 2015. http://b-otc.com/vg?nick=whaack . Currently not authenticated.
joecool: i will say WoT works fantastically well most of the time for trade
joecool: whaack: design the "bitcoin credit report"
whaack: joecool: No doubt that kinda thing is expected to happen, and that's a sad story, but the point is that that kinda thing is expected to happen and you just gotta design a better risk rating system
joecool: my favorite example from there is aethero... he was king of the $10 paypal trade, built up his trust and then took out ~$100k USD equiv in btc loans from everyone in -otc and btcjam...
joecool: whaack: plz see the long list of people who have been kicked out of the "trust network" in -otc
whaack: joecool: yeah this system starts with giving the customer a gift, the point is to make sure that the people we give gifts are the kinda people who give gifts back
whaack: Our customers would have a debt to settle in btc, if they can't settle it they get kicked out of the trust network.
whaack: So I'm working on building a system where people who I allow can spend BTC on credit. They would have the ability to spend my BTC just for having a good trust rating with me, and the business would be about improving the way I set the trust rating / payment limits etc. so that the fees I take in for the service outweigh the losses I have to eat
mats: rich has other good stuff on his site if you're into low level exploitation
decimation: asciilifeform: I did look through the magnetic amplifiers book. It sounds difficult to fabricate tiny transformers on ferric cores
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:31:28; cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132928 << and not remotely close to all the fat has been trimmed, even. within your lifetime, a house (even miniature house) occupied by just one family will become unspeakable luxury, as the sovietization continues
asciilifeform: i lacked the last two items and so did not buy.
asciilifeform: punkman: but you also must include the cost of transport (even across the street - not cheap!), 3phase mains, and climate-controlled floor to park it on.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132907 << again, in usa, this wage would disqualify you for any usg payola for 'the poor' while putting you precisely one medical or legal bill away from life-long debt, jail, or graveyard
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:38:28; mircea_popescu: anyway, hanbot has a point : join a fishing ship / oil rig / something. they'll pay you 5k a month to live in a 50 sq ft space,
asciilifeform: want to know what you 'own' in usa? try and stop paying the property tax.
asciilifeform: in practice, quite the reverse.
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 06:28:58; ben_vulpes: the house i grew up in might retail for ~3x what my parents paid for it, and far more than i'll ever sock away in my lifetime
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132926 << one of the mantras my parents liked to repeat to me was 'in ussr no one owned their home' - mega-l0l, no?
asciilifeform: however, it (like the proverbial linux) is 'free if your time has no value.'
asciilifeform: punkman: you are almost certainly thinking of the atomic force microscope made with piezos
asciilifeform: do you understand the difference between owning your own kalash and serving in ru army ?
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 05:14:10; asciilifeform: what was it herr hitler supposedly said, 'any man who likes to shoot guns ought to join the ss' ?
assbot: Logged on 15-05-2015 03:36:01; mircea_popescu: it's no such proof. it's proof that you are willing to allow the holder of key y to continue in your stead.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-05-2015#1132555 << had the thought, that a 'future pgp' could easily include a feature for key agglomeration - where an old key remains in continuous use when upgraded with new one, whereby signatures actually include both side-by-side at all times, while enciphering takes them in turn. thus, you get the added key length (and fresh keymat) from new key, while demonstrating that you are th
cazalla: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/17/business/decoding-the-enigma-of-satoshi-nakamoto-and-the-birth-of-bitcoin.html interesting article on Szabo
mircea_popescu: it's not THAT far off from the truth
mircea_popescu: at least in the republican fears, harem on welfare = inner city blacks.
cazalla: sounds great until i gave it a bit more thought and considered the cost and work involved
mircea_popescu: clearly, the millennials are on to someshit.
mircea_popescu: Let the intelligent discussion commence"
mircea_popescu: if they do it failed cuz i dont give a shit >D
cazalla: i wonder if they deliberately make errors so that many people watch to point them out to one another
cazalla: how the US misspoke about sending bombers and drones over here to watch the chinese with is puzzling
cazalla: can't say i'm a fan.. might try to touch it in a subtle manner to ensure it is a mole lest someone didn't teach the poor girl how to wipe
cazalla: still, vulva moles.. the lack of vulva symmetry doesn't phase, nice that they all come in different shapes and sizes but.. moley mole
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even does that.
mircea_popescu: i don't care how it looks. the point is that it's there, none of this "o, she just took the beadspread to the bathroom" bs.
mircea_popescu: i'm not watching any more videos until they conform.
cazalla: lose points for mole on the vulva though
cazalla: mircea_popescu, gee you really took the grainy gif insult to heart :P
trinque: the irony
trinque: installing openvas on gentoo with the latest ebuild ends up forcing you to use an old gnutls version
Namworld: Well, the living space might not bother me, but the inconvenient is you have to do fishing or oil drilling or so on work.
mircea_popescu: anyway, hanbot has a point : join a fishing ship / oil rig / something. they'll pay you 5k a month to live in a 50 sq ft space,
Namworld: The lack of land and bricks is worth a lot of dough. You could be paying a lot of dough at any big corp for fees and terrible services. Inconvenience is costly. What better investment than a overpriced house so you can live inconvenience every day of your life? You save a lot of money that way.
cazalla: ben_vulpes, comparable homes in my area are going for 600k, supposedly worth so much more than what my grand parents paid for their massive acre blocks back in the day where they were able to raise lots of kids on one wage yet i'm supposed to believe you're average australian couple who both work and pay for someone else to raise the 1 kid have it better because the total lack of land and bricks is worth $$$
Namworld: I feel if you stop bothering about what people think, fitting social expectations, outperforming your neighbors or any such thing. At least in certain places. I suppose it depends on real estate prices.
ben_vulpes: the house i grew up in might retail for ~3x what my parents paid for it, and far more than i'll ever sock away in my lifetime
cazalla: plus this idea of down sizing just helps them fit more people in
cazalla: i can't articulate it well but i'm sure i've read alf mention it before that it's part of the bezzle.. have you work and paid just enough to cover bills but never enough that you could be free of it within your life time, at least until you're washed up and old
ben_vulpes: i could buy a mini cnc mill and make custom leather embossing dies
ben_vulpes: <Namworld> [05:06] I feel much better having a small living space and more << i miss lathes and mills and welders
Namworld: ok, it's past 2am, I guess I'll log off for now. Getting empty in here. I'm off-topic for the channel too. Shouldn't be rambling late at night. I'll turn senile early.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:53] unrelated - anybody read the magnetics links ? << wrapping my head around the microwaves, actually
cazalla: we have a high minimum wage here (down under) but people still struggle on account of insane cost of living so can't really blame people for indulging a little, not like it's worth their time to save a deposit for a house anyway
cazalla: no doubt they piss a lot of it away but i don't think they are entirely to blame for being on struggle street
cazalla: shot myself in the foot with that one.. if i had said baby though, breast milk being somewhat free and all
Namworld: I'm sure a toddler is more expensive... Cat is like a $20 bag of food for like 2-3 months. And like ~$15 of litter for the same period. So about 10-15 bucks per month.
cazalla: my bad then, i assumed your interest in reducing living expenses was so that you could save a bit extra
cazalla: i'd bet a cat or dog costs about the same to feed a toddler
cazalla: but if you're trying to save money, perhaps just eat the cat and reduce not only the cost of feeding it but save extra on a meal or two for yourself
Namworld: The convenience of owning a cat and a dog in one, with all the disadvantages and not quite all the benefits.
Namworld: Well my cat can play tag, comes at the door running to greet you and gives his paw. I could probably teach him to fetch.
cazalla: most of the people in here like cats + smokes
Namworld: But I like the cat...
cazalla: Namworld, get rid of the cat, savings right there not to mention A+ for no animals living in the house
Namworld: Apparently. Seems by most people's standards, they'd be driven nut by the small space. The space with workdesk/bed/dresser is 5x10 foot
asciilifeform wonders what then -is- big enough
asciilifeform: then faraday also.
asciilifeform: or wait, where is 'there'