trinque: if there's a URL for that it'd be trivial to add
trinque: it will do a crappy check against the json api to see if the nick plonking in a deed is trusted, however, I don't know of an api that gives whether the nick on IRC is authenticated
trinque: either somebody produces the original text of the thing or deedbot has nothing to say about it
jurov: smells like something a patent troll could put together
jurov: or if it's meant for misc data, then it's done by deedbot already
williamdunne: Is 4.31 the market cap of Qntra?
trinque: williamdunne: turned the deedbot- rss'er off
ascii_field: in other news, 10 moduli as of a few hrs ago
ben_vulpes: my patchy beauty is on THE INSIDE, jurov!
jurov: lol.. your know how to hide your patchy fur in photos then
ben_vulpes: <jurov> i consider everyone here (maybe except mircea) a proud wannabe alley cats,still hooked to petting and milk << and i the mangiest
ascii_field: -other- end
ascii_field: i've seen systems like this, but, sadly, nothing with amd (nor do i expect to. they're 'frying pans.')
kakobrekla: i dun have a fanless seasonic but it has its fan off most of the time
decimation: yeah, they don't put that in the spec, but who knows. if the supply is really efficient, it ought not generate much heat
ascii_field: decimation: some years ago, i purchased a 'fanless' ps and discovered, to my grief, that a number of misc. components on the (cpu water-cooled) mb relied on having -some- airflow
decimation: usually power supplies don't nuke the downstream stuff, but it can happen
ascii_field: can i also exchange the downstream devices it will nuke when it does? l0l
ascii_field: decimation: from my experience, these 'fanless' things invariably rely on -some- case fan being present
mats: camera at the door takes his pic, prints access card with his face on it, but for whatever reason a super-secure AI dev facility doesn't so much as use the pic for user verification
decimation: anyway, back to the mines for me
decimation: mircea seems to credit the german geography for why 'nordic freedom' 'seems to work'. but I suggest it is the people themselves - having been beaten by the romans for centuries, and then forced by the church to mate outside their immediate family, they developed a concept of 'kinship' beyond L2 cousins
ascii_field: jurov: they 'count' in the psychiatric sense of explaining where the voices the patient listened to when he swung the axe appeared to come from.
ascii_field: can't help but imagine this being the reason why so many folks who aren't obviously retarded, are in favour of the handouts
ascii_field gets 50% taxed without (seeing any of the) redistribution
decimation: if the magic to living the 'nordic freedom' dream is 50% tax plus redistribution, why doesn't that seem to work in somalia? are they too stupid to understand the concept?
jurov: well, our problem is not patch management, but *reading* them
decimation: apparently used in the kernel world to manage massive patchsets
trinque: Congressman Mike Rogers told the RSA audience more than once that metadata in bulk surveillance collection "is just the 'To: From:' like the front of an envelope."
trinque: "potential terrorist activity" << nice orwellian term there
ascii_field: http://www.zdnet.com/article/the-dhs-brings-its-infantile-cyber-fantasy-world-to-rsa-2015 << l0ltr0n1c
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 16:11:34; ben_vulpes: i'm deeming the justJanne word salad as skippable
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1139424 << just picture her as an indoor cat explaining to alley cats the advantages of being pet... and you can like her again!
trinque: ah there it goes, good deal.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu *exactly like the one i showed you earlier. virtually same type of modifications.*
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Apocalyptic: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-05-2015#1136454 // for the record I misstated the length of the bugger, 311 is the length above which msieve presently refuses to crunch the number, the remaining factor is 1223 digit long
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 13:59:00; nubbins`: they did make me hold my arms out like an airplane while they touched my dick tho
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-05-2015#1138929 << i contest this point: http://www.xvideos.com/video4179860/champagne_bottle_in_the_ass_2
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 09:27:49; mircea_popescu: clever chick with a head fulla stupid meets #b-a. anyone care to bet on the linecount total ?
ben_vulpes: i'm deeming the justJanne word salad as skippable
mircea_popescu: anyway, this particular usage is the reason tilde even exists on computer keyboards.
mircea_popescu: computers made all other things stupider.
ben_vulpes spent rather a lot of time in libraries as a wee one
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they might have decided not to teach kids anymore, but it was in use back in the day
ben_vulpes: dude you know i think this is another thing americans simply shrugged and decided to not bother with
ben_vulpes searches memory for previous occurrences of the ~
mircea_popescu: America, The History Of ~
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes old library convention, so the list doesn't consist of half the items filed under TH
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: what's with the ~ in b,tmsro~ ?
mircea_popescu: look at the cute idiots, they're going to call no philosophies. because that's how it works, for keepsies! they called it!
mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/p5dVp1e5 >> this is like the most retarded thing i've seen today.
mircea_popescu: the age old problem with being clueless - it impairs metacognition too.
jurov: there were mostly fictional counterexamples
jurov: well, i saw nobody explain to her how does the nordic model actually does not exist
mircea_popescu: one wonders what'd be the bar for non-fictional politics.
assbot: Logged on 18-05-2015 23:03:57; justJanne: mod6: power is not the issue.
davout: she did broke the 1000 lines count while at it though
punkman: "The NYSE Bitcoin Index will initially feature data from transactions from Coinbase Exchange, the leading U.S.-based bitcoin exchange. In 2015, NYSE made a minority investment in Coinbase"
mod6: then straight down to 0.
davout: "NYXBT utilizes a unique methodology that relies on rules-based logic to analyze a dataset of matched transactions and verify the integrity of the data to ultimately produce an objective and fair daily value for one bitcoin in U.S. Dollars as of 16:00 London time."
davout: it's not that they're late, it's just... wtf
williamdunne: "Sorry we're late to the party, hey girlz, wanna see my handstand?"
davout: "We are now going to use our name, reputation and global index provider stature to provide bitcoin values that the rest of the market can look to," says Tom Farley, who serves as president of NYSE, the venerable financial institution that has come to symbolize Wall Street and capitalism more broadly.
mod6: And for reference, here's where you can view the performance test charts that were with the OrphanageThermonuke patched in: http://thebitcoin.foundation/OrphanageThermonukeCharts/
davout: "As a global index leader and administrator of ICE LIBOR, ICE Futures U.S. Dollar Index and many other notable benchmarks, we are pleased to bring transparency to this market."
davout: http://ir.theice.com/press-and-publications/press-releases/all-categories/2015/05-19-2015-133635560.aspx
mod6: Again, this is just the bitcoin-v0_5_3_1-RELEASE -- no patches added.
mod6: You'll notice that there are two times that during the full blockchain sync, bitcoind got oomkill'd.
mod6: Ok, the v0_5_3_1-RELEASE performance test is complete. Charts are posted here if you'd like to view: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v0_5_3_1-RELEASE-Charts/
scoopbot_revived: Scoop Test http://thethug.life/scoop-test/
assbot: You rated user jurov on 22-Apr-2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: this nick maps to a real person i have met IRL, also CoinBR.
mircea_popescu: if you are gonna do it, then what happened to "yeah bitch, exactly."
nubbins`: for those of you who are not canadian, yellow shirt man got fired from his $100k/yr job as an engineer at a public utility the day after this video came out
nubbins`: "what's 'do' do?" "the thing"
nubbins`: hey now, you computer folk misappropriated the word.
nubbins` puts away the rolls of paper
nubbins`: what's this about a banner then
williamdunne: I can, I hadn't seen the request but I'm happy to add it
mircea_popescu: you gonna add the bitbet posting functionality ? a lot more sensible i nscoop than i ndeedbot
williamdunne: Okay, Scoop should be 24/7 now, and even if he crashes the things he has posted should be persistent nao
scoopbot_revived: Testing Scoop http://thethug.life/testing-scoop/
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ omfg what are you like the socialist party in hiding, waiting for reinforcements ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://technologycloud.org/?p=1144 << there! finally it's all been shanonized properly.
mircea_popescu: how about you know, you just suck about as bad as the car mechanic that sets customers' cars on fire.
mircea_popescu: "we didn't just butcher a bunch of marginal retards in a parking lot. it was because of the moon. the guy that made the roof 15 years ago is to blame. it';s because texas has straight borders"
mircea_popescu: chetty ikr ? nuts, these people.
chetty: <mircea_popescu> ahahaha "Waco police claim the violence could have prevented if Jay Patel, the operating partner at the independently owned Waco franchise, had simply banned the Confederation of Clubs from meeting there"//of course that would work, would have happened at the place down the street instead.
mircea_popescu: kinda funny how the "we totally fucked up. it was our job to keep things smooth and well... we blew it" thing never comes out of us police.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Oh noes, the lawyers and doctors too!
mircea_popescu: Since the massacre, police have announced that there is credible information about threats toward law enforcement. Waco police issued a bulletin at 10:13 Sunday night that announced: Our agency has recieved (sic) information that the Cosaks (sic) and Banditos (sic) have issued an order to kill anyone in uniform.
mircea_popescu: eslewhere where, in the "democratic" republic of germany ? (following kruschev's revelation on stalin!)
williamdunne: Its not even that country, I'm pretty sure the same would be said elsewhere in fairness
mircea_popescu: ahahaha "Waco police claim the violence could have prevented if Jay Patel, the operating partner at the independently owned Waco franchise, had simply banned the Confederation of Clubs from meeting there"
mircea_popescu: Sergeant Swanton said, What occurred here today is the worst-case scenario when a business owner puts profit over human lives. Its sad. This could have all been avoided.
williamdunne: Thats pretty meta - isn't it. Sergeant is on the list of criminals
mircea_popescu: sucks that most of the kids are online geeks / webexperts i guess.
mircea_popescu: Sergeant Patrick Swanton, a spokesman for the Waco Police Department, called the attendees. A bunch of criminal element biker members that came to Waco and tried to instill violence into our community and unfortunately did just that
. This is not a bunch of doctors and dentists and lawyers riding Harleys. These are criminals on Harley-Davidsons.
williamdunne: But considering who pays their salaries..
williamdunne: justJanne: When it comes to it, the German soldiers will either massacre civilians or execute gov officials
justJanne: More kills in one day than the police here in 70 years -.-
mircea_popescu: in other news, https://8ch.net/player.php?v=https://media.8ch.net/wx/src/1431138912693.webm&t=1430767959843schoolgirl-on-dildo.webm&loop=1
williamdunne: It was a knife fight, and as soon as one biker pulled a gun the swat opened automatic fire
williamdunne: Yep, thats the one
mircea_popescu: the texas shootout thing ?
williamdunne: You know those dead bikers? Turns out they didn't actually kill anyone
williamdunne: It stems from the idea of ownership and necessity of a common unit
mircea_popescu: justJanne was the number 7 invented by people, iyo ?
williamdunne: Money has existed since before government was a concept that meant anything other than some tribe leader with a bone through his nose
mircea_popescu: but other than that, money was invented and reinvented by people, most recently being called bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: so, yes, the idiocy of socialism, no matter how named, and the superiority of la serenissima, etc, are rules of the world, and drive it whether named or unnamed.
justJanne: And there are many successful Nordic startups and companies.
justJanne: You can start a company, and become a huge multinational even, as long as everyone has enough to fulfill their basic needs.
justJanne: Socialism, originally, was intended to do exactly this: give everyone equal chances, but then let them do their own thing. Of course you can start a company and become rich, this is no issue, as long as no one starves to death.
justJanne: Tbh, even the US nowadays is quite close to what Marx described.
mircea_popescu: an' i dun think they fit my head.
justJanne: The Nordic model is what Marx meant, but Lenin and Stalin went totally retarded.
justJanne: As seen with the parking lots.
mircea_popescu: worked fine in the 80s, will work fine again.
justJanne: Also, you often don't need laws or regulations, as they are often ignored, if you use society or physics, it works better. Example: the streets in my city. If you have no parking lots anywhere in the city, people will have to use public transport. And private investors are happy too, because they can build parking lots and charge moon prices. 8$/h
williamdunne: Yeah it was some atheist euphoric kid
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: You mean the euphoria ones?
mircea_popescu: the next thing coming is "you know, i don't think we should be seeing each other anymore"
mircea_popescu: you know, that's how rich men dump young girls ? "what did you think of the film" "meh" "specifically ?" "i just didn't like it"
williamdunne: Safety is the precedent for anything dystopian
mircea_popescu: the signs of a dead civilisation.
justJanne: This is Germany. The place where people will wait at an empty crosswalk at 3am on Sunday.
mircea_popescu: i can't stand it in people, and especially not in men. imagine the unbearable conversation of someone who prefers the stability of bureaucratism and "not having to depend on clients"
mircea_popescu: you wanna be ~my~ father, you shoulda done a shitload better than this stupid shit.
justJanne: He did the right thing.
mircea_popescu: other people's dads did a lot better, unlike his lazy ass.
justJanne: But he preferred the stable job in a company over the risk of having to depend on clients.
williamdunne: It’s not an endlessly expanding list of rights — the ‘right’ to education, the ‘right’ to health care, the ‘right’ to food and housing. That’s not freedom, that’s dependency. Those aren’t rights, those are the rations of slavery — hay and a barn for human cattle.
mircea_popescu: "hey, be thankful for the little you get" and all that jazz.
justJanne: There are also corporal lawyers working in companies writing legal terms for contracts all day long.
justJanne: Also, there are different kinds of lawyers.
mircea_popescu: they make jack shit.
justJanne: No, the issue is a different one.
williamdunne: Too many lawyers, education diluted the market I'm guessing
mircea_popescu: justJanne so he studied law and you still need the state to put you through college ?
justJanne: Take for example my father, no money, piss poor. Would have had no money for studying. But also not able to work heavy work.
mircea_popescu: if you take the vouches of idiots seriously, it works, sure.
justJanne: The difference is, it works.
mircea_popescu: idle masturbation for the infantile mind.
justJanne: The idea is to create a society where every person has an acceptable life.
mircea_popescu: socialism is not only not a given, it is the system of organised stupidity.
mircea_popescu: to propose that you can randomly switch people around as if they were interchangeable parts is already to introduce socialism as a given
mircea_popescu: again : people are not rootless, leaves in the wind of "society".
justJanne: Which is the Nordic model.
mircea_popescu: you don't follow the important point.
williamdunne: justJanne: Everyone executed except the rich
justJanne: The thought experiment is:
justJanne: And, interestingly, this thought experiment almost always ends in the Nordic model.
justJanne: Interestingly, you should read about the veil of ignorance.
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 10:36:43; justJanne: Most other people would have fallen for your propagandistic claims.
mircea_popescu: dun make those statements, they're stupid things for stupid people. here, this, blah.
justJanne: The stuff most women prefer in general,
mircea_popescu: and they wear heels.
mircea_popescu: this is not an issue, for as long as they understand that this is ok for them and unpleasant for others.
mircea_popescu: and, in a fascinating turn of what sexism really is, remember that one time when ben_vulpes had a friend over, about the same age, about the same ideas and i bit his head off ?
assbot: Logged on 19-05-2015 09:27:49; mircea_popescu: clever chick with a head fulla stupid meets #b-a. anyone care to bet on the linecount total ?
justJanne: Most other people would have fallen for your propagandistic claims.
justJanne: Yes, they do.
mircea_popescu: readthelogs.pdf
mircea_popescu: tbh the best part was where she didn't wanna take a trip to the us because satan lives there.
justJanne: Just because the legal system of The most serene dictatorship was written by amateurs doesn't mean it's good.
justJanne: In most of the world, yes.
justJanne: If the contract is worded so that it provides and obvious disadvantage for one party, it is void.
mircea_popescu: the counterpart being that you can never impose a contract on anyone.
mircea_popescu: if the contract is so phrased, yes.
williamdunne: No, they don't
justJanne: Debt as a liability and debt as an asset have to be treated the same.
mircea_popescu: the fact that i convey a claim against you to him does not mean he inherited it from me.
justJanne: So, then debt is only inheritable in some cases?
mircea_popescu: is it assignable ? have you assigned it to them ?
mircea_popescu: justJanne depends how the contract was worded.
justJanne: Can your children force the person to pay?
mircea_popescu perceives the deep, faint marks of ancient saxon legal strictures in the girl's attempt.
justJanne: And if yes, why are they so different from debt contracts?
mircea_popescu: the contract is not inherited.
justJanne: But the contract is again bound to you.
mircea_popescu: and forevermore get a share of the company.
justJanne: But the contract is specifically signed to you.
justJanne: Most stocks are a contract saying that you pay money, in return get a part of the profits and the power over a company.
mircea_popescu: stocks don't carry liability, nor have they ever.
justJanne: The question here is:
justJanne: It's not the same.
mircea_popescu: that's the way it goes. if you have children, you lose your juvenile figure.
justJanne: You lose something due to the bad choices of your parents.
justJanne: Okay, back then.
mircea_popescu: so a bottle and a penis are, for a flatworm, "the same"
mircea_popescu: the word has a specific meaning.
justJanne: It is part of the poor debate.
mircea_popescu: the debts of your parents is a novel development, wasn't discussed before.
justJanne: The situation that you live in a place with taxes is neither your punishment nor you'd responsibility.
mircea_popescu: the same needs two operands.
justJanne: Okay, so, mircea_popescu, taxes are the same
mircea_popescu: moreover, the situation where you're poor because daddy was a drunk is neither your punishment nor your responsibility.
justJanne: But they shouldn't.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between punishment and responsibility.
mircea_popescu: for instance, i didn't say people should be punished for what ancestors did. you conflated two statements : 1) that you can't expect me to pay for the poor behaviour of one's ancestors and 2) that i punish people by what they are rather than they wish to be.
justJanne: williamdunne: it was used as defense against my argument that "children should have equal chances, no matter if their parents are poor or rich"
mircea_popescu: justJanne the impression you get comes from you observing what's being said with too broad a brush.
williamdunne: Some people said, before, people should be held responsible for the decisions of their ancestors, they can even be punished for them. <<< who actually said this, I'm curious about the justification
justJanne: Combined, the statements are nuts.
justJanne: Some people said, before, people should be held responsible for the decisions of their ancestors, they can even be punished for them.