ascii_field: and that the presence of several 'interesting' names in the list, is also merely fortuitous.
ascii_field: Hasimir: you are asking me to believe that a large number of moduli, carefully crafted such that in mutilated form, they are factorable -and- have valid sigs, is something that could somehow happen by accident.
Hasimir: no one on that list has said, "this is the answer" - they're discussing theories and you're attacking them for doing so, it seems a bit odd
ascii_field: aaaaand 'we did this all, yes, believe us, we just never bothered to mention in public'
trinque: that would be the thing to answer
Hasimir: just the local computer club kind
Hasimir: didn't spare all the boring folks
Hasimir: but what makes them interesting? just that it happened?
Hasimir: but has since said he's not interested (the follow up by DKG has that)
Hasimir: he was copied in on the email directly
ascii_field: LinuxCon and he told me that some folks complained that they can't encrypt to him. For other this was no problem, though.' << this part should surprise no one. the boobytrap works on -someone-.
ascii_field: shitgnomes and their 'it didn't happen. if it happened, it doesn't matter. if it matters - one of -our- people did it first, of course!'
ascii_field: and aha, they are already starting with 'That reminds if of a private discussion I had last autumn. Some guy
ascii_field: as, other meaning here
ascii_field: Hasimir: examine the evidence for yourself. tell me it is a bug.
Hasimir: well, current theory from werner is it's just a software bug
ascii_field: Hasimir: idk why anyone would want to pwn it, either. ask the fine folks who made the faux key for it..
Hasimir: anyone not using hush can get their key signed by that by registering their key through the hushtools.com site and later retrieving the signed copy
Hasimir: the sole purpose of that directory key is to provide minimal (stress minimal) proof that the entity controlling an email address approves the key as theirs, no more
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://blog.spaf.us/post/119499216803/two-security-researchers-break-rsa-4096-bit-keys << hard to even believe. someone ought to contact the man (assuming he exists in life) and ask, if he shat this out
trinque: Hasimir: register a key and I'll give you a 1 to self-voice in the future
ascii_field found this by looking at The List, of course
ascii_field: 'The PGP Global Directory is not a replacement for the PGP Web of Trust, but an additional mechanism to provide a global foundation for the PGP Web of Trust that enables opportunistic secure communications.'
ascii_field: 'Because the PGP Global Directory allows users to manage lost keys, it cannot use cryptographic mechanisms for verification. Instead, like mailing list servers and other public Internet services, the PGP Global Directory verifies a key by requiring a response to a verification email sent to each email address specified on the key.'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
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assbot: Successfully updated the rating for davout from 1 to 3 with note: paymium, met IRL
ascii_field: incidentally, rust's flight caused the sacking of pretty much the whole of soviet air force brass.
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ascii_field: 'In the room waited Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, who had stopped by for a photo op and was posing a challenge for officers discussing safe ways to get the prime minister out of the building if necessary.' << oh noez, poor muppet might lose a string or two
trinque: the thing's a chair and propeller
ascii_field: (doesn't get him out of the trespassing charge, but 'flying without license')
ascii_field: http://www.usua.org/Rules/ruleandregs.htm << if his machine was under the weight limit - no license needed ?
trinque: they're terrified of capable people
ascii_field: see also, mathias rust ( http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/the-notorious-flight-of-mathias-rust-7101888/?no-ist etc )
trinque: the felonies are simply... we are defining your remote controlled toy as an aircraft
trinque: notably the felonies lack anything about super-top-govt airspace, those were the misdemeanors
trinque: http://www.cnn.com/2015/05/20/politics/gyrocopter-pilot-indicted-on-six-counts/ << two felony counts -- one count of "operating as an airman without an airman's certificate" and another count of "violating registration requirements involving aircraft,"
trinque: the whole thing is spectacle
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 19:03:42; trinque: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/21/nsa-plan-find-osama-bin-laden-infiltrating-medical-supply-chain/ << subtext, NSA caught Bin Laden
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142132 << they could've simply poisoned him then
ascii_field: otherwise it's hitler talkin'.
trinque: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/36ru89/just_days_left_to_kill_mass_surveillance_under/crgjx6s << check out this motherfucker recommending people smartphone apps to protect their sekurity
trinque: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/05/21/nsa-plan-find-osama-bin-laden-infiltrating-medical-supply-chain/ << subtext, NSA caught Bin Laden
trinque: and perhaps other deadly practical things
trinque: er I mean, the engineering of it
trinque: I'm not talking about the hardware
ascii_field: cardano is made of off-the-shelf parts.
ascii_field: (though whole debate is about whether we ought to fly to alpha centauri or proxima centauri. neither is on the table)
trinque: not nearly the umpteen trillion I've heard before
ascii_field: the path is me with 20 years of living expenses paid. or one of possibly 3 other fellas
trinque: absent this are the economic considerations
ascii_field: trinque: laugh if you like, but my issue with gabriel_laddel is precisely that he is willing to compromise -too much- rather than not enough.
trinque: these types if they can be managed at all have to be under the command of someone who doesn't give a shit about software as art
trinque: gabriel_laddel | I'm clearly valuable, other people take care of me. << this fucking kid
trinque: and then whatever convo this brought about
jurov: exactly the same case
jurov: have you read the log about quimby/hannah&barbera?
trinque: connecting two cities is useful even if the whole system isn't done.
trinque: but the guy was dead set on building this whole relational coding environment for... I don't know, your grandmother, anyone, "the people"!
trinque: every other product in its space is garbage
trinque: its as if someone's laying bricks one by one, and the guy with the vision for the road says "NO, YOU MUST LAY THEM ALL AT ONCE!"
trinque: what does their clarity get me?
jurov: that they are wrong!!!
jurov: can one go to mars by carefully cultivating their mind?
trinque: ascii_field: my observation working for a few brilliant guys is that the unwillingness to break the grand vision into chewable pieces results in failure
trinque: or on the other hand, if the only route to mars is starvation, maybe we've got no business aiming for mars just yet
trinque: after he beats the word "waste" into your skull
trinque: you may at best go work for the guy who can
trinque: gabriel_laddel | story time: I ran into loper-os after a stint programming clojure as a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. << don't ever do this; if you can't make money doing it, you're not the guy to do it.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
scoopbot_revived: There's no progress without control. http://www.contravex.com/2015/05/21/theres-no-progress-without-control/
mircea_popescu: y the machine age, it has great value."
mircea_popescu: his heading. Some of the incidents in it are flatly incredible, others have been rearranged and romanticised, and not merely the humiliation but the persistent ORDINARINESS of everyday life has been cut out. Dali is even by his own diagnosis narcissistic, and his autobiography is simply a strip-tease act conducted in pink limelight. But as a record of fantasy, of the perversion of instinct that has been made possible b
mircea_popescu: "Autobiography is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful. A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life when viewed from the inside is simply a series of defeats. However, even the most flagrantly dishonest book (Frank Harris's autobiographical writings are an example) can without intending it give a true picture of its author. Dali's recently published LIFE comes under t
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: a) they're dumb enough to crash into each other << recall last year's shootout featuring solely police ?
asciilifeform: chetty: vestigial things, no longer having a logical reason to exist, tend to get trimmed down and eventually disappear. like cavalry sabres. in this case - the pretense of 'law'
chetty: asciilifeform, well that is certainly proof we have passed thru the looking glass, if anyone needed proof
mircea_popescu: eh by now the us police's got to this point where a) they're dumb enough to crash into each other and b) when it happens they'll write the wind a ticket for reckless endangerment.
mircea_popescu: trinque check it out, deedbot joined the evil side ?
chetty: well I guess one would have to go read the actual court documents to be sure
chetty: well I recall the incident about the kid getting hurt a while back, not so sure about the court case
mircea_popescu: he was defeated. no big whoop, for anyone except them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> as far as i can tell, he's just another larcenous piece of shit << well, he's one of the first crop of derpy bureaucrats who thought they;'re gonna leverage the fiat state into a position of bitcoin power in a hostile manner.
asciilifeform: 'entering a room is always done in pairs. first mr. grenade, then - you.' (ru, apocryphal)
asciilifeform: quite likely the response would be something like andrew jackson's 'marshall has made his verdict, now let him enforce it.'
asciilifeform: chetty: because their having to even file a defense is a mere formality. what, you imagine that court will say 'gestapo can no longer throw grenade before entering suspect house' ?
asciilifeform: bitstein: the best reaction to bureaucrats is the centuries-old formula popularized by solzhenitsyn - 'не верь не бойся не проси' ('don't believe'em, don't fear'em, don't ask [anything] of them'
bitstein: asciilifeform: good points. I posted it mostly as a reaction to the knee-jerk reddit response getting all butthurt that he would do such a thing. Of course, indifference may be the best response.
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, he's just another larcenous piece of shit
asciilifeform: the inevitable question which comes to mind is - why should we give a damn about this particular burglar? what world records of theft, or even of daring, did he break?
wyrdmantis: so is neither bad nor good news?
asciilifeform: but they are only ever on one 'side.'
asciilifeform: wyrdmantis: disingenuous headline. bureaucrats do this faux switcheroo all the fucking time.
asciilifeform: https://www.google.com/search?site=&source=hp&q=A50591247C8E37A64117B74F78AB527059E13694 << just the 2 of us.
asciilifeform is marvelling at the totality and cleanliness of the blackout. virtually no traces of The List anywhere.
mircea_popescu: the idea is to avoid splashing
asciilifeform: hence how the '90s 'crypto wars' ended with 'crypto is usg-legal but you can't buy an actual computer' thing
asciilifeform: not much balance, really. eventually everything softens into the soft fecal matter (tm) of 'soft power'
asciilifeform: just as the 'make plebes stupid & pliant' folks ate the 'pinkerton' pour la canaille - la mitraille types.
asciilifeform: ... and peddle some 'lantern' replacement idiocy, why wouldn't they
mircea_popescu: nah, it's gotta be 2nd pass, with the usual vague baked in
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: expect a great many of these 'will unseat rsa' idiocies.
asciilifeform: euglena? the microbe ?
mircea_popescu: yeah. the sorta-fat, cowardly, euglena-scented kid everyone beat the shit out of in school.
mircea_popescu: fucktards, these people.
asciilifeform: 'Like Bitcoin, Black Lantern uses an open-ledger system in which derived hash-value trees are maintained by Guardtime in order to monitor for changes. In the case of Bitcoin the values represent transactions; in the case of Guardtime, its the hashed signatures of the assets being tracked.' << tr0l0l0l
asciilifeform: http://eprint.iacr.org/2014/689 << what they actually did. think 'deedbot' but since bitcoin never existed on their planet, they demand crippled computers with super seekrit drm cpu.
asciilifeform: hence the immediate angle of 'omg1111!!!111!11 rsa broke'
mircea_popescu: it's like... that's where the entire "mp is a troll" thing came from.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the amusing tactical implication here is that well... they actually would have loved to say rsa is bad.
asciilifeform: in other news, the buggers know no bounds, http://www.networkworld.com/article/2925215/security0/new-protocol-from-guardtime-hopes-to-unseat-rsa-for-authentication-digital-signatures.html
asciilifeform: this existed elsewhere - various u.s. chemical and misc. r&d corps of the '40-60s come to mind
asciilifeform: the artists had enough pull to avoid being steamrollered by fishmonger. fishmonger had sufficient balls to avoid being steamrollered by artists.
mircea_popescu: and then went bankrupt.
mircea_popescu: if there was ever a bad cartoon, hanna & barbera made it.
mircea_popescu: the jetsons. scooby doo. take your pick
mircea_popescu: the studio was taken over by the jenius creative minds in questions. you probably also know their names, because they are intricately connected to the absolute worst shit animation ever saw.
mircea_popescu: then, after decades, and NINE oscars, ie, his weight in fucking gold, he retired.
mircea_popescu: or even any interest in the subject of his profession.
mircea_popescu: which he ran exactly like a fish market. opressing the ever-so-creative creative ppls, and famously lacking any sort of a sense of humour
mircea_popescu: because fred quimby is the man that made cartoons be a meme. tom and jerry, loony tunes, all of it.
mircea_popescu: you familiar with the fascinating case of fred quimby ?
mircea_popescu: engineer-bitch topping from the bottom still counts.
asciilifeform: (yes, the one in rms's tales)
asciilifeform: incidentally, symbolics was not managed by engineers. it was managed by business expert types who were mislead by engineers into believing that the cost of the research could be amortized via 'honest work.' the lisp machine vendor which -was- managed by engineers into a very early grave, was lmi corp.
mircea_popescu: however, that doesn't matter - how cheap it is in absolute terms. whether you have 100 outfits each owing 1mn or 5 outfits each owing 20mn
mircea_popescu: yes, it is, which is how we got 100 tries rather than 3.
asciilifeform: but game is also much cheaper on the expenditure side of things
mircea_popescu: because os has at least theoretically utility.
mircea_popescu: this scenario played itself there numerous times : people with great ideas sucked at business.
asciilifeform: i do not believe the correlation to be pure accident here
mircea_popescu: im not familiar enough with the text & its context to call it
asciilifeform: they would've sold unix boxes.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my argument is that if smbx had -not- sucked at management, we would not be talking about their products today.
asciilifeform: they did!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do i recall correctly that at some point they squandered a mn or so on some dumbass real estate deal ?
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:47:10; mircea_popescu: 1. world sucks ; 2. capitalist would pay any sum for a world that doesn't suck ; 3. sadly that world doesn't exist ; 4. but the capitalist simply presumes it exists, and it's for sale for the money he has + 1
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141772 << the interesting thing is the blindness of this stereotypical character to items which -could- exist but cannot be brought into existence through traditional methods - planning, hiring, management. ergo items which could exist if you gave $raggedlispdervish a bathtub of benjies no-strings, do not and cannot exist because this is rather like asking $capitalist to stick hi
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141750 << him and six other folks. others just want to play 'solitaire' apparently.
asciilifeform looks forward to the demolition of graham et al
mircea_popescu: it only works when "everyone". there's no everyone.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it works for them, no ?
asciilifeform: so yes, they made neat things, no, they didn't figure out how to pay for it. and no one was ever able to repeat because this has not changed - no one today can afford the necessary degree of non-retardation.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:40:23; mircea_popescu: so no, they didn't make money
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141745 << smbx spent a fortune on r&d. they tried to amortize this cost any way they could, but nothing worked - other than peddling golden toilets to usg and subsidiaries. when political fortunes changes - it was over.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 09:39:50; gabriel_laddel: Symbolics Inc. made quite a bit of money - their products were not braindamaged.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 10:04:19; gabriel_laddel: story time: I ran into loper-os after a stint programming clojure as a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. I got another place, found trilema+#bitcoin-assets and... got evicted again.
asciilifeform: (the update, that is)
asciilifeform: entirely absent from the peanut gallery, and voted down into oblivion in the particular spots where i personally tried to insert it.
assbot: Logged on 21-05-2015 06:59:12; mircea_popescu: http://netsledov.ru/issledovateli-bezopasnosti-vzlomali-4096-bitnye-rsa-kluchi/ moar ru. apparently they really like alf.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1141568 << that thing is copy-pasted all over ru spamosphere, with scarcely any variation, and no mention whatsoever of the updates.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: they were used as exploration drones, basically. see what fruit is poisonous etc.
mircea_popescu: the historical utility of children for human society is that they are more than happy to stick random things in their mouth.
mircea_popescu: generally, it doesn't work out for them
mircea_popescu: you know womenz can be fiercely loyal in spite of their better knowledge.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: lol but why ? she wouldn't let you get evicted. << I think she'd actually evict me, then decry that there were homeless programmers.
mircea_popescu: so no, for a capitalist it is eminently impossible for something to not be and then come into being.
mircea_popescu: and as to "if you're a capitalist everything exists" - it's a subtle point, but in order for one to be a capitalist, the requisite premise is "that which is is and necesarily is, and that which is not is not and necessarily is not", ie, parmenides.
mircea_popescu: moreover, and this is the important part, it's a poor premise because only idiots start their stuff with "most people"
mircea_popescu: now, the reason the quote is factually incorrect is pure godel. what you imagine as "simple" is only simple because you're using an unsimple language. otherwise, if you face the problem directly, it's very complex.
mircea_popescu: the problem with your theory is exactly that : it's a theory. life on earth is emergent pattern in chaos, not sensible arrangement.
gabriel_laddel: shit catch up with them and we end up where we are today - nothing works and everyone insists that it does because they've bought into a lie. As for "is both factually incorrect and a very poor premise", thank you, will update.
gabriel_laddel: ally burn some of Earth's brighter minds, someone needs to think about the gnarly parser semantics when the language's syntax is updated - my experience is that you can't pay people to care) 3. use lisp. People have already tried 1 & 2, and the result is inevitably that even if they make money (Mathematica, Microsoft, Oracle...) the foundations of
gabriel_laddel: s, industrial chemists, architects, research physicists etc would like to have a plug-and-play solution for going about their work. There is money to be made here. Afaik the only way to get there is: 1. revert to paper 2. teach *everyone* what an AST is, choose a language, add AST traversal mechanisms and write *everything* in it (this will continu
gabriel_laddel: Intellij. The problem with these (ALGOL based) businesses is that their organizations ossify because of the sheer number of people that must get involved in any sort of "automation of programming". This is inescapable if you choose to use ALGOL. I realize that this isn't a result you believe exists, but reality doesn't care. Aside from software dev
gabriel_laddel: e effect of "linux devs are idiots and I'd like a judiciously defaulted gentoo please". The question is, at what point does this become something that you (or others ben_vulpes, mod6, asciilifeform etc have already wasted time derping with gentoo) would pay for? People pay for (what they see as) quality software - sublime text makes money, as does
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: im not going to go into how "Most ideas humans would like to communicate using the computer are quite simple." is both factually incorrect and a very poor premise. << I didn't see this prior to our conversation, courtesy of not paying my bills. This is actually the crux of it, so let's revisit. You've publicly stated something to th
gabriel_laddel: story time: I ran into loper-os after a stint programming clojure as a day job. I ended up getting evicted for playing around with CL instead of paying rent. I got another place, found trilema+#bitcoin-assets and... got evicted again.
gabriel_laddel: Though I'll note the "chasing a better world a dollar at a time" makes a great deal of sense, unless one lives in the peculiar bezzle-buck nightmare we currently inhabit.
gabriel_laddel: I'd end up having to type for them, and at that point, wtf I'll just do it myself
mircea_popescu: (which is why "does" not "will" - the bourgeois has no adherence to metaphysics.)
mircea_popescu: in any case, this approach illuminates the fundamentally pessimistic outlook of the socialist.
gabriel_laddel: If it doesn't exist, and other people want it - go make and sell it.
gabriel_laddel: Hmm.. I think 4 should be "the capitalist simply presumes it *will* exist"
mircea_popescu: so he spends his life chasing the world that doesn't suck, a dollar at a time.
mircea_popescu: so 5. he goes to work, makes more money. this of course scales up the price.
mircea_popescu: 1. world sucks ; 2. capitalist would pay any sum for a world that doesn't suck ; 3. sadly that world doesn't exist ; 4. but the capitalist simply presumes it exists, and it's for sale for the money he has + 1
mircea_popescu: "the world sucks, and id pay any sum for one that didn't. well... suppose it exists and it costs what i have +1 ... best get to work then"
mircea_popescu: i think for the record most capitalists work on this concept
mircea_popescu: so imagine it exists and it costs the money you have + 1.
mircea_popescu: so imagine it exists and they don't let you work on it oh oh oh i see.
mircea_popescu: provided, of course, they let you work on it only
gabriel_laddel: if sane computing existed I would (update and then) send out my resume
mircea_popescu: so you would have, rather than would ?
mircea_popescu: so no, they didn't make money
mircea_popescu: they failed for purely sales reasons.
gabriel_laddel: Symbolics Inc. made quite a bit of money - their products were not braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: ie, you can't have the things that make it make money without the causes of the braindamage
mircea_popescu: mathematica only makes money because it's braindamaged imo
gabriel_laddel: Mathematica makes money, people say the exact same things about their software "I have lived in a...", but their product is braindamaged.
mircea_popescu: (historically this is the EXACT contribution of the artist to the world, your "I have lived in a river of shit my entire life" or as jourdain put it, "i had no idea i was talking in prose".)
gabriel_laddel: ke to complete it. Via Masamune it is possible to find out what these people are doing, optimize confusing paths etc.
gabriel_laddel: I took an early demo (long before I discovered CLIM) to large company X, demonstrated all the information I could collect, that I could write lessons integrated into the whole desktop environment. This company has the sneaking suspicion that people sort of dick around during the onboarding process and there is a huge variation in how long people ta
mircea_popescu: how do you capture a fraction of the 10 bn pula ?
mircea_popescu: so they install it and run it, and that's that.
mircea_popescu: but w/e, im a bad example. suppose for someone it matters, and it saves them 10 billion pula.
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: if you had Eurola shipped in 1/2 the time this would matter to you, no?
mircea_popescu: i still don't see the money part. this is art, at best.
gabriel_laddel: 03:55:16 mircea_popescu: or for that matter, predict the next one, so you know where not to go o.O << Cincinnati
gabriel_laddel: trinque: is that like when gabriel_laddel reads loper-os then screams about lisp at everyone? << After using CLIM, do you feel like screaming at people?
gabriel_laddel: romptly forget about it. Actual people don't forget the experience of using something interesting (see your own hypercard post). I want them to be absolutely fucking incensed when they encounter windows or the like. Also, I love being able to kill/yank text in the browser + Emacs + CLIM. Also, money.
gabriel_laddel: CL. Additionally, I want people who have no prior knowledge of computing to develop taste. Gedankenexperiment: spend 10k USD, purchase stock PCs, preload with something somewhat sane (Actually complete Masamune/bitcoin-assets distro) and distribute to a class of kids "learning to program". IMHO they'll play around with it, do their work and then p
assbot: Logged on 12-04-2015 02:36:29; asciilifeform: to envision a 'wave of the future' that includes c and unix - entirely other.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-04-2015#1097935 << I'm not envisioning a great new wave of lisp on UNIX. Most people, when they use software, never question foundational abstractions. I can hack lisp, but cannot hack the myriad "dodo languages" UNIX is written in (and retain my sanity). If people are going to be writing code it should be in
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Apocalyptic: ;;later tell asciilifeform re pgpdump it actually displays details of HPA's invalid subkey, but for some reason doesn't print the associated keyid even once so my grep missed it
BingoBoingo: Depends on the strength of your microscope
assbot: Logged on 11-04-2015 19:58:13; ben_vulpes: "Regular expressions cannot respect a language's syntax (detect false positives short a full parser)" << this strikes me as a special case of the "cannot simulate a universe without a universe" claim.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=11-04-2015#1097710 << If I take different 3 buckets of paint and mix them into a homogeneous color is the system more or less ordered?
BingoBoingo: Weekend's drama was apparently biker gang splinter group was being confronted by their sponsors and likely DEA agent ran over some dude's toes, then hemophilia
gabriel_laddel: Isn't Texas in a standoff with the Federal gov. atm?
BingoBoingo: White people had a big gunfight in Texas over the weekend without civilian casualties and now everyone derps about big bad biker gangs
gabriel_laddel: I didn't know the eurola crafting system was so advanced
mircea_popescu: politicomathsocioscience 101 for the new generation : let there be user A who has 43 positive meaningless ticks and 22 negative meaningless ticks ; and user B who has 12 PMT and 17 NMT. who would win in a fight between homer simpson and a himalayan sherpa ?
gabriel_laddel: Data visualization will save the seas of failed "college students".... or so they hope.