williamdunne: I dunno, I just don't see auth as that important if they're not doing anything extraordinary
decimation: imagine you were attending a lecture on the fourier transform. now imagine the lecture was taking place in an open booth on a london street
trinque: people should auth here for the same reason the deedbot- doesn't take any tattered scrap of paper from the street
trinque: that conversation would a) not be a part of the public forum and b) if I knew you well, we could more or less establish who each other were by familiarity, but ^ it sucks
decimation: if by 'he's saying hello' you mean 'he has nothing to say', then it matters because of clutter
trinque: this is that for the internet
trinque: because if I can see your face, and I've seen the face before, I'll know it
williamdunne: But if he's coming and saying 'hello' why the fuck does it matter?
decimation: williamdunne: it's necessary when there's a world full of zombies who want to waste your time
decimation: mjr_: the important part is that friends can be enumerated
trinque: no, it's also so that those present can tell who the fuck you are
mjr_: it didn't offend me at all, i was just saying that in my humble opinion, auth'ing is useful if you want to prove you are the one who said something
mjr_: in other words, i don't have anything to discuss that must be proven to have come from me
mod6: well, it does to me! we used to chat back in the day, i'd like to know if its mjr i.e. father of buttonwood or dog.
mod6: wassup mjr: assbot doesn't have a fast time-out like gribble. so you can take your otp and decrypt on another box (air-gap) for instance and not have to worry.
mjr_: so there is no reason for you to know who I am, or care
mjr_: so, why press the point?
mjr_: what was the fact?
mjr_: you might have to go back a year or so to find the last time i chatted here
trinque: the amount of bitching people do over 10sec of work...
indiancandy1: isnt mp the owner of this irc
mjr_: well, i will let kakobrekla be the judge of that
indiancandy1: thanks 4 the rateing D
trinque: mjr_: kakobrekla might if you're looking for him. consider if you will the value of making claims to an identity with hard proof
mjr_: ok hold on, let me plug in my other computer
WolfGoethe: only the geekiest of the crypto geeks would go thru all that just to post big booty pics
trinque: !down WolfGoethe
trinque: it'll send you a url, you decrypt the contents and give it back to assbot with !v
trinque: WolfGoethe: when you want voice, send a private message of !up to assbot
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for WolfGoethe with note: new blood
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.rate.WolfGoethe.1:1c0fe620b46c4634282678cb9daeae399403b84ad5669b4f1d8cc018fbe84b09
trinque: !rate WolfGoethe 1 new blood
trinque: but like.... better than they did :D
trinque: that's the argument to !register
williamdunne: indiancandy1: Its like an identifier for your key that I registered you with, the one you didn't know the password for
WolfGoethe: i sent it to the keyserver, how do you look it up? name or email ?
trinque: maybe the knob comes off, some kind of outer covering goes on
gribble: The operation succeeded.
williamdunne: ;;later tell kakobrekla can you unregister indiancandy1? I was setting it up for her and forgot to check if she knew the password to her GPG key.. she hasn't authed yet
trinque: then assbot will be able to find it when you provide your fingerprint
trinque: WolfGoethe: yes, what OS are you on
williamdunne: WolfGoethe: Yep
williamdunne: (GPG4WIN asks for password even if there is none)
trinque: any simple guesses for the password?
trinque: williamdunne: and now you'll need to be able to use the old key to use !changekey
williamdunne: Who tried to set this up before for indiancandy1? She doesn't know what the password is to the key.. aha
williamdunne: Can someone in the lords list please give indiancandy a rate?
williamdunne: Who is in the lords list?
trinque: WolfGoethe: while we're doing inductions, why don't you register too
trinque: !up WolfGoethe
trinque: williamdunne's the limey
trinque: indiancandy1: did you install the thing?
williamdunne: Would she have got here in the first place if it wasn't for freenode webchat?
trinque: well, or just tagging along on someone's more permissive node if they don wanna
williamdunne: trinque: Do we have any other beautiful women?
williamdunne: Lady from Credit Agricole decided I have to open the account in person
trinque: indiancandy1: get in the wot! we need more beautiful women.
williamdunne: I'm from the UK, which is just as bad
trinque: I'm a mongrel from the US
indiancandy1: the song is jamaican
trinque: williamdunne: did you not hear the tunes?
williamdunne: I don't believe Greece, India, or the UK are in South America
williamdunne: So when you see the smart screen thing yes, what buttons can you click?
trinque: by crippling the software
trinque: it's a hamfisted attempt to "protect" the user
mod6: Update: full sync of v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patche(s) { Orphanage Thermonuke } + { TX Orphanage Amputation } is up to block: 314713
williamdunne: Then tell me
williamdunne: And then click run
williamdunne: And click the first big green button
williamdunne: Apple or other?
trinque: "you had this great body, then let 'artists' use it like a bar bathroom wall"
trinque: WolfGoethe: same
trinque: prolly the chick who's a table
WolfGoethe: the tatto girl?
BingoBoingo: !up WolfGoethe
williamdunne: indiancandy1: are you registered in the WoT?
williamdunne: It was on maybe the second page of it
williamdunne: WolfGoethe: Urm... your link returned this
indiancandy1: the link u sent is taking ages
trinque: instagram is solely for hot women and pictures of their food/cats, this is true
williamdunne: Oh yes, I'd be interested in seeing the male/female ratio on instagram/twitter though
WolfGoethe: the finest fitness booty imaginable.. it never ends
williamdunne: They deserve to be fined
williamdunne: "The US is our home -- they may be acting like nincompoops but I don't want to completely uproot over this."
williamdunne: I sent an email to SandHill saying "So when are you moving then", and this was their response:
WolfGoethe: i checked bitcoin-otc .. no paypal my cash there
williamdunne: indiancandy1: Oh I'm not the only one
trinque: WolfGoethe: ^
WolfGoethe: web of trust? how do i reg there?
assbot: WolfGoethe is not registered in WoT.
trinque: !gettrust WolfGoethe
WolfGoethe: unrelated question.. anyone got some paypal my cash codes they wanna trade for some btc?
trinque: WolfGoethe: every time I build up enough piss and vinegar to leave, I find a reason to stay
trinque: WolfGoethe: was probably ground control
WolfGoethe: forgot the name of the arcade bar.. but they had all the old skool games. went for sf2 and tmnt.. had a blast with the model girl there
trinque: WolfGoethe: ground control?
trinque: WolfGoethe: nice town as an outsider yeah
WolfGoethe: portland was nice. met a super model lookin type girl there... she told me she hasn;t had a date in 6 months.. i was like why??? she said because the guys in portland are to scared to even say hi to her... lol
indiancandy1: why are they aholes
trinque: portland pussies stand no chance there
trinque: mxtm: I was just describing to someone moving to Boston the difference in culture between new england and here (PDX) .... how did I forget "massholes"
WolfGoethe: there is a nice uk peer to peer trading site right?bit trust.couk ?
jurov: apparently they ask 0.5% or $1
WolfGoethe: never tried transferwise, what premiums do u get with them?
jurov: yes there. anyone tries transferwise?
jurov: WolfGoethe: sometimes
indiancandy1: are you in the eur
decimation: although in most european style wines the sugar is mostly gone
mats: shallots are in the onion family
decimation: the 'liquid' is a combination of sugar water and yeast shit
indiancandy1: then
mats: decimation: were that only the case... imo its a holdover from a different, 'harder', era
decimation: usg actually should subsidize rather than punish hackers. Like terrorists, they provide the perfect excuse to expand state power with little opposition
decimation: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/05/cybersecurity-and-tylenol-murders < "Yet none of the proposals now in Congress are aimed at actually increasing the safety of our data. Instead, the focus is on ?information sharing,? a euphemism for more surveillance of users and networks. These bills are not only wrongheaded, they seem to be a cynical ploy to use the very real problems of cybersecurity to advance a surveillance agenda, rather th
decimation: mats: the us military likes to keep its elborate hazing rituals
williamdunne: The age?
BingoBoingo: Landgull: Dude, if you don't have a good answer, you're a lot better off just admitting it and asking for advice. Not just with finance, but in life as a whole. << Wait, there is now an aeronaut ninjaspamzor???
gribble: The operation succeeded.
williamdunne: Well I think the essence, is if what you're currently doing isn't working, fucking change it
BingoBoingo: williamdunne: http://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/Plymouth-billionaire-Chris-Dawson-lambasted/story-26199605-detail/story.html << What about NHS workers moving from "Airstrip One" to somewhere which would pay them better... Like Ferguson.
thestringpuller: i'm quitting the code life soon to pursue my dream of being a rapper
williamdunne: http://www.simondixon.org/iceland-is-the-most-important-country-in-the-world-right-now/2015/05/30/
williamdunne: We had less than $10,000 in the bank. We had no legal counsel to speak of."
williamdunne: "That’s when we received an inquiry from the SEC. And then a subpoena demanding a court appearance and all our documents and communications since the beginning of last year.
williamdunne: "25 days into our experiment, activity on the site was parabolic. Users were writing their own algorithmic traders. On most days, Sand Hill Exchange saw more trading volume than the New York Stock Exchange (circa 1840). Behind the scenes, we mapped out technology infrastructure to decentralize the exchange."
williamdunne: chetty: Coolio, I'll look it up on the guide
pete_dushenski: time to make my way to the gate. good evening y'all !
chetty: williamdunne, it best if you compile yourself from the source, but its a breeze on ubuntu
williamdunne: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/383sl3/one_reason_to_support_increasing_the_block_size/
williamdunne: They're doing it by issuing smart contracts so they're not the issuers technically, supposedly
williamdunne: Press release says they were fined $200k, email subject says $20k
williamdunne: The Sand Hill Exchange Team
williamdunne: Sand Hill Exchange has always been strongest as a site focused on education and community. The paper trading version of our site preserves these values while providing a safe, fun experience.
williamdunne: We never had any intention of operating in a regulated industry, nor do we have the resources required to do so. We reached a settlement agreement with the SEC and are reverting to the uncontroversial free version of Sand Hill Exchange.
williamdunne: We started Sand Hill Exchange as a fun game to let people bet on startup valuations. It is an enjoyable experience, but when we pushed aggressively to monetize we received a cease and desist from the SEC.
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Lol, yeah. Apparently they hedge theirs though rather than bear the risk
chetty: for the record I have gotten it to run on a laptop, but its very slow
jurov: i'll forward or return the funds when someone picks up
williamdunne: (The company offering Derps, MPEX style)
jurov: also, my windows/osx dude said he's away till 12th. so the position is in fact open
williamdunne: Sandhill Exchange fined by the SEC, lol
pete_dushenski: the frenchies (lausanne in particular) were coming up with all sorts of creative ad campaigns to encourage people to pick up their fucking trash
assbot: Logged on 01-06-2015 18:37:26; williamdunne: A new study has officially proved that French are smelly and Dutch, Germans and Scandinavians are the cleanest ones."
jurov: mike_c: best if you compile yourself then
mircea_popescu: mike_c i put nvidia drivers in the binary bundle just in case.
pete_dushenski: doubt anyone will bother to show up at aantop's gravestone with oranges and braided bread for provda
mike_c: jurov: not to be an ass since you just took the job, but do you have an idea for ballpark on binaries? my ubuntu box has trouble running eulora due to gfx card issues.. just wondering if it's days, weeks, or months.
pete_dushenski: heh, it's the one year anniversary of aantop's murder !
ascii_field: 'The exorbitant membership fee, 30 BTC, coupled with the fact that their twitter account hasn’t been touched since last June, suggests that the exchange is defunct, or at least no longer being actively promoted.' << tungsten, it melts in your mouth!
davout: lol, /r/buttcoin has it http://thecoinfront.com/andreas-antonopolous-threatened-with-murder-over-twitter/
pete_dushenski: 3/4 of the way home from la suisse
mircea_popescu: davout it's kinda amusing to see just how butthurt "social media" gets when it turns out nobody cares what they think / nothing they could do makes any difference.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149809 << i'm glad to hear someone actually tried. though if mp can't get his hands on them...
pete_dushenski: endless milking, these mooz
pete_dushenski: "One reason to support increasing the block size: Luke-Jr is against it." << lulz via redditards.
ascii_field: 'Senior officers live in large houses, travel on their own planes and oversee whole continents with little direction from Washington.'
ascii_field: mats: http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/05/25/us-military-and-civilians-are-increasingly-divided.html << another l0l from same www
chetty: love the char name davout
pete_dushenski: universities as places of higher learning for the already learned, different story.
pete_dushenski: mats universities as businesses, which is what they've certainly become with their 20th century 'mass adoption' approach to education, couldn't possibly lead their students to be anything other than broke dicks anymore than apple can with the kids who buy their iphonez
mircea_popescu: nah this is the acct name.
mircea_popescu: screww that im not gonna keep asking. calling everyone their nick.
mats: the number of broke dicks getting churned out of ranger school is a leadership failure not a fact of life
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-06-2015#1149704 << this place has it's fair share of consensus too. just imagine the insane levels of groupthink on teh outside !
diana_coman: jurov not yet, as I just saw the post on trilema, but I will get onto it as soon as possible and I have some experience...
jurov: diana_coman: you managed to compile the new ver already?
thestringpuller: i really wish it was practical to just kill the redditards
williamdunne: Take it back, about 7 miles to the West for Euro welfare
williamdunne: If it was 5 miles to the left of its current position they could massively tap into European welfare spigots, which is even more hilarious
ben_vulpes: FLYPLYMOUTH has developed a plan to reopen Plymouth airport, reintroducing aviation services and air passenger services that is stepped and incrementally profitable at each stage. We believe that this objective is deliverable in two to three years and that by working together with the City around a demonstrably credible plan supported by independent feasibility analysis Plymouth will be able to benefit from new job creation and better
williamdunne: Thought they were derpy so wanted to discuss it on a public forum
williamdunne: I invited them here
williamdunne: They're raising fiat
williamdunne: They're not raising bitcoin
ben_vulpes: and what world is this where scammers take cash to build out a model and then verify it with bureaucrats?
williamdunne: For reference, this is what they're talking about
ben_vulpes: what the fuck is a stress test
Landgull: Well, they wanted 150k for a stress test.
ben_vulpes: but let's start with the "how is anyone involved qualified to derp near expensive-ass capital equipment"
Landgull: I think they should take the 150k, buy a cessna, and ferry people around as a social enterprise.
ben_vulpes: i read the thread.
ben_vulpes: and then disappear
Landgull: They need to stop talking about what they need and start talking about what they will do for their investors.
williamdunne: And they don't have to rebuild everything..
williamdunne: The idea I think is actually ok, Plymouth does need to be better connected, but they're definitely derping around with it
flyplymouth: if you want to talk serious then I can set it up
trinque pats deedbot- on the hood
flyplymouth: If you want talk serious finance then you need to talk to FD.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: So once you've "stress tested" this business plan, rather than going for government money, why don't you become the first CIC to issue publicly traded bonds?
williamdunne: (hence the -assets)
williamdunne: flyplymouth: Promise of interest in return for money today, I'm not too bothered by technicalities
flyplymouth: Bonds and loans are not techically the same thing.
flyplymouth: divdends are not the only way to generate a return. Bonds / Investment Agreements.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: How would they generate returns? This is what we're asking. You can't pay dividends so..?
flyplymouth: why would a billionaire invest in an airport? If they want to develop and grow Plymouth whilst also generating a good return. Recent studies from aviation industry have said that Plymouth Airport could add 240 jobs to local economy and £20m a year to wider economy. It also helps having one of the largest naval bases in Europe in Plymouth, which attracts manufacturers and business to visit the area
williamdunne: But speaking about NHS staff unhappy at their low wages, Mr Dawson suggested they could retrain and work in another industry."
williamdunne: "Mr Dawson said it was a Budget for everyone, that the prices of food and fuel had come down, and that thanks to the Budget he yesterday signed off a deal with a European country to build factories.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: I doubt Chris Dawson is too bothered about having to go to London to catch a flight
Landgull: Plymouth, what people are asking you is why a billionare would rather put his money with you than either 1) putting it in some blue-chip stock, or 2) directly giving it to a charity that they care about.
flyplymouth: it also depends on how they choose to invest equity/ fixed return etc.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: Its not about if you're legally allowed to do it, its more I'm a billionaire, why the fuck do I give you money for a social program? While it can work with a small homeless shelter, you're talking about an airport. Not like there is one landlord who owns half of Plymouth and the surrounding area who wants to increase property values.
flyplymouth: As you will have seen in news of late, Transport Secretary and others have said it can reopen, the question is who opens it. We want to safeguard the airport for the long term.
mircea_popescu: but these are basically charities.
williamdunne: trinque: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/office-of-the-regulator-of-community-interest-companies
williamdunne: trinque: There are a couple of legal structures for it, like a community corporation or something of similar name
mircea_popescu: flyplymouth so let me see if i understand. you're trying to get a small sum together to pay for various studies that then you can turn around and give the british government which will spend a lot of its own money to do the thing you came up with ?
Landgull: Or rather, my question would be: How much of the actual investment/operating capital needs to come from private sources, after you've satisfied the nonsense of central planner stress testing.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: You didn't answer the question at all
flyplymouth: The social enterprise model doesn't prohibit us from attracting private investment.
flyplymouth: If you are using your own money to reopen the airport, you can just go ahead and open it. But to access money which is not repayable, whether it from Government or otherwise, they have to see that it stacks up over the long term and importantly that it has a wider benefit to the local / regional economy
mircea_popescu: flyplymouth how much does one of these checks cost ?
mircea_popescu: Landgull ^ see there.
flyplymouth: Before you can attract airlines you need to demonstrate passenger demand. There are models used around the UK which almost charter planes to use as an airline. If you have demand / good seat occupancy it works well. This happens in a lot of airports around the UK but planes are badged with other airlines.
williamdunne: flyplymouth: (The stress testing)
mats fires up the gas grill
mircea_popescu: Landgull get in the wot already
flyplymouth: In aviation terms, they will review passenger journeys to see how many people travelled from Plymouth to the destinations, they will look at plane types and prices paid and give you a report back on whether your calculations make sense.
williamdunne thinks bringing a business plan here is the best stress test available
ascii_has_newz: can't recall if he was one of the magic 98 or not