gribble: The operation succeeded.
scoopbot_revived: The Nordic System, a new novel by Mircea Popescu http://trilema.com/2015/the-nordic-system-a-new-novel-by-mircea-popescu/
HostFat: I did't know about the refund, good, than I'll make again the bet with 1 BTC at this time :)
mircea_popescu: for the other thing : plox to not email bomb me ; bitbet's not keeping your bitcoin, rejected props get refunded as it gets around to it ; yeah 1 btc is prolly enough for that purpose ; if https://bitbet.us/bet/786/bitcoin-to-surpass-berkshire-as-an-investment/ and https://bitbet.us/bet/7/bfl-will-deliver-asic-devices-before-march-1st/ being paid out isn't going to convince you i guess nothing will.
mircea_popescu: hey. wouldja mind getting into the wot, for one thing ?
HostFat: I'm the italian moderator on bitcointalk
mircea_popescu: wyrdmantis dja know the guy ?
assbot: Rich Geldreich's Tech Blog: The Truth on OpenGL Driver Quality ... ( http://bit.ly/1H87U11 )
mircea_popescu: hm, does anyone remember this excellent write-up of the videogaming industry wrt drivers ? it was a fable-like story, didn't name intel nvidia ati etc but described the interactions with game developers in some intricate detail.
mircea_popescu: and so on and so forth, gavin's spoken to "economists" that agree with him except meanwhile they turn out to not exist and he has the support of business except all that business can't get a hundred bitcoin together. in which sense, it is obviously a subsection of the tardstalk forum - those guys got like 1k together to give marquardt so he could leave council housing.
mircea_popescu: ethereum was going to be the bees knees for sure definitely absolutely. it even raised a shitton of btc, allegedly. except... not. not at all, not a little bit.
mircea_popescu: funny how the buterin waterfal works. there's allegedly all these usg "companies" with "millions" in their coffers that have "investors" and whanot. meanwhile nobody can be arsed to buy any amount of their stock at a 50% to 90% discount. for like...a year now.
mircea_popescu: all these imaginary bitcoin businesses and so on that supposedly support him could make a pretty penny bettinbg for the thing they allegedly support at 11:1.
shinohai: But, I'm sure they had credible intel *
punkman: Over a hundred people were evacuated from an apartment building Tuesday evening after reports of gunshots from the balcony of an apartment. During a six hour long operation, police surrounded the apartment and tried to contact the gunman before discovering that the apartment was empty.
fluffypony: https://www.blackhat.com/us-15/briefings.html#the-memory-sinkhole-unleashing-an-x86-design-flaw-allowing-universal-privilege-escalation
cazalla: nah some abo that went rambo on some cops and stayed in the bush for years
cazalla: the abo ned kelly guy
cazalla: the abo?
Vexual: dunno, the nushranger, starts wid a d
cazalla: prob the cop shop itself
cazalla: nah i'm good, don't have the shimmy shimmy shakes
Vexual: what the link
Vexual: wtach the greek squirrel it
punkman: "Bennett was listed #7 on the "Forbes 30 Under 30" 2015 music list" "gave a lecture at Harvard University's Hiphop Archive & Research Institute"
Vexual: i forget the name, shes better than that tho
Vexual: next month 500k of ur 5 milly must be vc or other new shit
Vexual: caz i saw that neat little lezzo on news 24 this morn singing the praises of melb. wow
Vexual: meanwhile BB up in the smart part of town...
cazalla: still get most of the regional ambos down here on analogue
cazalla: Vexual, get the cops up that way?
Vexual: yeah, but he can prolly bed the shit to find a freq
Vexual: funny thing is if the internet ever breaks, id have to remember xanthyoss ham sign to find you, but yes
Vexual: i took the lid of my psu and shorted the fuse after the ticking turned into complete failure
Vexual: mircea_popescu: there's always a way. <im glad KRS1 is alive
asciilifeform: sometimes - head fits in lathe.
ben_vulpes: lathe fits in head.
asciilifeform: ^ probably most famous lathe of all time
ben_vulpes: i'm starting to not be surprised by the failure of modern computing tools
asciilifeform: (there may exist an instrumented allocator which will actually complain about being unable to find an appropriately-sized free block, but i am unaware of it)
asciilifeform: the only conclusive test for fragging is manually sweating over a memory dump 'with magnifying glass'
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> what i did not have time to do is to measure whether this had the intended effect. << how would you measure fragging?
asciilifeform: (on account of all of them being divisible by 4294967297)
asciilifeform: but elementarily, all of them are expected to appear prior to the end of the churn of the sks dump circa last month
asciilifeform: i will note that -not all- phuctored moduli to date are in 'magic98', nor have all of the 98 been (thus far) phuctored or even attempted
asciilifeform: (Apocalyptic may have posted the proof somewhere in the logs already. i can't recall.)
asciilifeform: it is guaranteed to be a factor in all moduli matching the 'magic 98' pattern
gribble: The operation succeeded.
shmadz: yeah, this is a work phone, which is even less secure, so I have to type on it all the time, which probably means everything I
shmadz: ok, thanks for your help, and thanks for the !up, I think I'm gonna try a remote server to manage the keys, and just remote in from the phone? I don't see any secure solution to my problem atm
trinque: depends on who the adversary is
shmadz: thank you, not the answer I'm looking for, but this makes me think there is an opportunity to make the device I want. why is there not secure Linux that can run on a phone-like device?
trinque: which is to say, if you wouldn't do it outside the police station, don't do it on a phone either
trinque: or otherwise, it's important to note which actions can and cannot be securely taken on a phone
trinque: reason being, should you specifically define it, you may find there is no existing device that meets the spec
shmadz: right, I want a solution that is roughly the same size as Samsung note, and runs native Linux, or some secure version of android, if that even exists
trinque: shmadz: to the logs with you!
shmadz: ok, so there is no known solution for secure, pocket sized, computer?
assbot: 4 results for 'specificity of the diddling' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=specificity+of+the+diddling
trinque: !s specificity of the diddling
decimation: yes when barely half of your able adults are working while 40% are being paid to slack, it's pretty obvious that the whole thing is a confidence scheme
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2015 05:02:36; mircea_popescu: "The system not only pays poor people, it employs lots and lots of almost poor people. I'm not saying this is a good thing, or a desirable thing, I am simply stating a fact. Some of these are direct government jobs (e.g. staff down at the SSI office) and some are pretend private sector jobs. If you're a psychiatrist at an inner city clinic, you may think you're an independent contractor, but you're r
decimation: asciilifeform: or your business is frequented by those who get checks from the treasury for being poor or whatever
decimation: asciilifeform: yes indeed, nobody in the us is more than two or three degrees from usg
decimation: god forbid that we give up the health care tax break or mortgage interest tax break
asciilifeform: because, as described very clearly by tlp (that piece cached on mircea_popescu's www) - they either carry out work directly for usg organs (official or otherwise, e.g., microshit) or perform services for the former
decimation: ^ yes, this is true, and most of their welfare comes in 'tax expendatures'
asciilifeform: the key unwritten truth here is that virtually all employed folks in usa are 'on welfare'
asciilifeform: i suppose, because the famous '47%' isn't quite half
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Book Review: The Redistribution Recession ... ( http://bit.ly/1MrNSyK )
decimation: here's how to 'out-scam' the printing press: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/06/01/book-review-the-redistribution-recession/ < "In other words we?re trending toward a society where about half of the working-age adults will kill themselves with 60-80-hour weeks while the other half will relax on the sofa."
mircea_popescu: by the book.
mircea_popescu: they're going to spin and deny and pretend nothing happened.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. in any case, mtgox ended exactly the way faux gpg, or system d, or gavincoin, or the sec or the fbi are gonna end
asciilifeform: as do the basic mechanics of a goxatron - encouragement of off-chain payments via 'codes' rather than proper btc, goading users to keep coin in -exchange's- wallet, etc.
asciilifeform: the unmistakeable attributes of 'goxitude' - 'kyc/aml' crapolade, mysterious freezes/'questionings'/account dissolutions/'verifications' - carry on
asciilifeform: in the same way as ibm passed it to microshit
asciilifeform: one could even argue that gox is not dead, but rather passed the torch to coinbase/bitstamp
mircea_popescu: and they tried tooth and nail to keep on.
mircea_popescu: but think of it this way : never, in the history of tyhe world, did ~they~ ever destroy anything.
asciilifeform: from outside of the walls it'll look quite like a 'goxing' yes.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coinbase is definitely on the chopping block.
mircea_popescu: there is not enough bakshees to pass up the chain, because bitcoin is not fiat. they need > 9k% to be satisfied.
asciilifeform: the new gox
asciilifeform: trinque: this is likely to be repeated, and next on the chopping block is probably 'coinbase'
trinque: asciilifeform: here's a better scam; kill the price for a bit by imploding gox
asciilifeform: trinque: the basic crime of herr force - aside from the unforgivable 'didn't pass the bakshish up the chain' - is that a commoner has pretense to lordly things
mircea_popescu: if it says the reverse... well duh.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2015#1154671 << they can only be enforced by women against men, moreover.
asciilifeform: as it is, half the planet toils so that u.s. schmucks can get tankers full of little orange plastic pumpkins every october to hang on their porch
trinque: I don't think the way in which communication happens here would be considered high bandwidth
trinque: perhaps not; I'd expect though that we're incredibly low on the scale
mircea_popescu: what, unlike the friends, romans, countrymen ?
trinque: that's why they didn't think up a better scam
mircea_popescu: than the us ever did or ever will.
mircea_popescu: similarly, it can perhaps be argued successfully that the romans had better "social sciences" in the weaponized, political sense
asciilifeform: that's sorta like saying that they had modern construction equipment. yes, there were cranes powered with man-sized hamster wheels
mircea_popescu: and if zenon's arrow in flight discussion is not exactly the latter...
mircea_popescu: actually, they did. both.
asciilifeform: hence the astonishingly baroque refinements it is subject to
mircea_popescu: consider : roman empire also used the same process.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: printing press scam is directly analogous to carnot engine. it is the closest shave one can give the sheep without skinning them
asciilifeform: decimation: pretty much every living thing in nato-dom is alive beneficiary of the printing press.
asciilifeform: sorta the carnot engine of sc4mz0r1ng
asciilifeform: short of perpetuum mobile, which physical reality balks at - printing press is -the- scam.
mircea_popescu: there's always a way.
decimation: how do you outscam the printing press?
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that's surely the majority of usg
asciilifeform: there is also the realization, shared by the more-intellectually-bent part of usa, that 'if i were to be paid what i am worth, i will starve and be boiled for soap. therefore gotta help carry on the scam'
decimation: people in the midwest have kids, some of them have skills, and they end up in some bureaucracy
mircea_popescu: i suppose the one true differential between lords and peons is the answer to the simple question
mircea_popescu: what are they, sharecroppers ?
asciilifeform: spacex ultimately runs on the apparatus whereby continent full of schmucks is robbed of what little they produce
decimation: people are willing to spend their lives gaining skills only to end up paying elon to work for him
decimation: for instance, spacex runs on the same 'fumes'
asciilifeform: (the latter is an increasingly common path out of u.s. army - ever wonder why?)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to grasp this, it is necessary to look through the porthole glass on the atomic dirigible, down to the planet below - where most folks are so thoroughly wedded to their meal ticket that they do not really perceive themselves as having a choice of what sort of system to be part of, aside from the abstract choice of eating one's pistol
decimation: maybe usg employees think that if the just stick around one more year they can 'change the system' liked they fantasized about when they signed up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you're there because you were born and raised there and door is welded shut ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they would have, if they could be sure of 'blink back' when 'blinking eyelashes' up the chain of command
mircea_popescu: think about that. it's like being in a bar where you hate everyone to the point you wouldnt buy them a drink.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the one important point in all this is - even the people on govt team don't like other people on govt team enough to go partners.
asciilifeform: this is the difference between money and scip
trinque: it remains to be seen what charges these guys end up with
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the quantities are not co-measurable
mircea_popescu: the notion that an entire hierarchy would manage to split it into bits... heh.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: there is a long list of idiocies not yet surfaced. for instance, a usg stooge will eventually propose 'wallets' keyed to passport chips or the like
asciilifeform: decimation: if the fools had the elementary common sense to share the bakshish up the chain of command, they'd be walking still
mircea_popescu is rooting for him, gavin and that radioshow derp getting together and starting a wallet site or something.
pete_dushenski: so i guess the bitbet model makes sense.
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 03:06:48; asciilifeform: williamdunne: the usg connection of karpeles is as clear as daylight, considering how he is investigationally untouchable (both in the sr trials and in the greatest btc-related monetary black hole known to date)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2015#1154606 << just one more asset ended up with head on pike, now barking at the outskirts.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: upon reflection, alternative is either a) have one person do everything, or b) 'multisig'
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 03:05:28; pete_dushenski: so one person does funds, one person does other things ? you might excuse me for being suddenly reminded of magicaltux's recent 'decentralise the exchanges' essay
decimation: yeah this is a point, as long as usd is 'money' they can toy with anyone
pete_dushenski: then 'withdrew' from where ?
asciilifeform: well yes, but they know that $10k walked in in usd
decimation: but they can't send agents to question why you withdrew $10k
asciilifeform: just like the ancient observation that if two walk into a cave, and one walks out, someone probably got clobbered
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 02:54:13; decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/06/04/fbi-official-companies-should-help-us-prevent-encryption-above-all-else/
asciilifeform: sorta like that fable, where the sheep asks the wolf what his 'crime' was, why he deserves to be eaten, and wolf answers 'your crime was that i am hungry and you are fat'
mircea_popescu: decimation that it's the same thing, basially.
asciilifeform: for so long as the robbers even bother to construct arguments, they will necessarily take this form
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not that far off, it is after all the argument they brought before australian courts against austian dotcom kid. or for that matter in swiss courts against belgian dude.
asciilifeform: sorta like the silk road sentence
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or anti-fiat-theft generally
asciilifeform: decimation: the likely next step for usg is probably 'naggum-style' taxation on 'what you probably earned and hid'
trinque: asciilifeform: not a bad point there
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 03:28:58; decimation: it's a good way to raise children, but lord help you if you marry the wrong woman
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 02:53:01; williamdunne: While I'm going to be putting myself very publicly as the face of the company, I'm not the only one responsible for it
asciilifeform: decimation: it is interesting to consider the implications of mass 'awakening' to btc as an anti-divorcetheft instrument
trinque: decimation: I don't mind the thought of raising kids at all; still don't think I'd marry
decimation: it's a good way to raise children, but lord help you if you marry the wrong woman
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 02:48:58; williamdunne: Latest board resolution contains a line similar to the one in a couple of MPEX contracts that goes along the lines of "The company deems this contract valid, regardless of the opinion or declaration of any person, regardless of what title that they may choose to fashion themselves with" lol
decimation: greenspun has a continual rant on the divorce racket
asciilifeform: how could it be otherwise.
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah, it's a real thing too I hear. if one of these 8(a) qualified companies enter bidding, they automatically win
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: again, they 'work' like patents 'work'
asciilifeform: trinque: even in the absence of children, imagine that, l0l
asciilifeform: decimation: the golden quadrifecta is female minority crippled in iraq
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i guess i figured that since usa is where they're mostly use, that pre-nups work there. upon reflection, this is a nonsensical conclusion !
decimation: asciilifeform: also there's supposedly a super-category for minorities/handicapped/veterans
asciilifeform: (more accurately, they work in the same manner as patents. which is to say, if you have infinite money and are willing to spend most of it on lawyers, it can be made to 'work' in a way.)
asciilifeform: phun phakt for non-u.s. folks: usg contractors who are registered as 'woman-owned' get preferential contract status. the practical consequence of this is that a great many operators of such firms have them registered in wife's name
decimation: Spandrell made another good point in his next post: "Say a woman that gets a job before of a female quota, but is chosen specifically because she isn?t a loud feminist and does not abuse her legal privilege. Will she ever abandon feminism? Most likely not. After all she owes her job to feminism, even if she had to take a second sanity test. But she has nothing to win, and quite a lot to lose from abolishing female quotas."
decimation: but the deeply weird thing is that nobody questions - 'oh those people who were working on red commies are now working on terrorism'
asciilifeform: the 'eternal war' thing is summarized by herr orwell
decimation: asciilifeform: but there's an interesting parallel to usg: they 'won' the cold war, yet failed to unemploy the 'national security' complex
asciilifeform: the yudkowskyans call it 'evaporative cooling' (to describe why doomsday cults on day n+1 after planned 'doomsday' not only do not fall apart, but get more 'culty')
williamdunne is off for the night
decimation: The moral is that we should be ashamed of ourselves and aspire to be as virtuous as this child. But of course in reality this child would have been arrested and executed, alongside his parents. Which is obviously why nobody tells the king about his new clothes. They?re not stupid.
decimation: In the West of course we have Hans Christen Andersen?s tale about the kid and the emperor?s new clothes. The funny part is it?s fiction. And the story is just about a child, who having a pure heart, dares to say the truth against the powerful.
asciilifeform: decimation: the concept described in the linked piece is known as 'shit test' to the pua enthusiasts
decimation: Zhao Gao knew how to play the actors
asciilifeform: (for non-mordor folks, i will add that the entire train, and in fact all the trains i was in that day, had the same ads)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: who the hell cares what a transparent shill does
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: could be worse, could be lanier pumping the windoze phoenz
asciilifeform: the notion that this would be permitted were he not a usg asset, or that his little shop of horrors could afford the fee, is sheer lunacy
asciilifeform: decimation: i still had a scrap of doubt about zimmerman's betrayal all the way until i got into a d.c. metro car plastered, literally floor to ceiling, with 'redphone' ads.
asciilifeform: decimation: the actors in the act are the best kind, from the standpoint of the muppetmasters - they don't know they are actors, likely
decimation: I suspect there are people in usg who hold his views exactly
asciilifeform: decimation: chumpers are to think, presumably, that if 'big bad fbi' 'hates crypto' therefore 'buy redphone!'
assbot: Logged on 05-06-2015 02:54:13; decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/06/04/fbi-official-companies-should-help-us-prevent-encryption-above-all-else/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2015#1154566 << the whole 'clipper chip affair reloaded!' thing is half of a classical 'good cop/bad cop' act
williamdunne: 1 BTC will hire the local village drunk to bludgeon him with a stone, to put the poor child out of his misery
KRS1: If you send me just 1 BTC I will send you the video. Its fuckin' hilarious!
asciilifeform: williamdunne: the usg connection of karpeles is as clear as daylight, considering how he is investigationally untouchable (both in the sr trials and in the greatest btc-related monetary black hole known to date)
williamdunne: But I am the account signatory
pete_dushenski: so one person does funds, one person does other things ? you might excuse me for being suddenly reminded of magicaltux's recent 'decentralise the exchanges' essay
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Indeed. Outside of fiat which is impossible to keep sole control of, I am responsible for funds. If something were to go wrong it would be my head on the pike.
pete_dushenski: ok then. so... be mindful of who you're associating yourself with, is all. and what you're the face of, regardless of its apparent usg-icity to you.
williamdunne: One of the main things I've been focusing on is getting as many degrees of separation as reasonably possible from USG
pete_dushenski: williamdunne: that's not really the point here. the point is that he's the one of the hook. fatso's von flondor.
williamdunne: pete_dushenski: Not yet convinced, while he is responsible I do think there must have been a malicious third party involved which I suspect to be the USG
decimation: asciilifeform: one thing I was thinking the other day - now many women are in the workforce instead of at home - but because the number of dollars is not constant, all that has resulted is that both parents are on the treadmill
assbot: Logged on 02-06-2015 17:22:10; mircea_popescu: magicaltux, and you're comment as ot whether "he's to blame entirely"
pete_dushenski wonders where duckduckgo finds these photos.
pete_dushenski: decimation: i can imagine employers shaking their 'devil hand' symbols at employees using unapproved encryption
williamdunne: wasn't it suspected that the SEC (or was it CFTC, or was it both? God knows) wasn't too amused with the fact that all of the exchanges are not regulated and based in God's favourite country?
assbot: FBI official: Companies should help us ‘prevent encryption above all else’ - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1KIdIgE )
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2015/06/04/fbi-official-companies-should-help-us-prevent-encryption-above-all-else/
pete_dushenski: decimation: on the diamond train, 2 years might as well be 2 minutes too late