asciilifeform: i must point out, for what is probably the seventh or eighth time, that i have no safe means of selling any bitcoin whatsoever while i live in usa. (selling for paper money, theoretically possible and suicidally dangerous, does precisely nothing to offset ANY of my living OR engineering expenses.) THEREFORE entire operation is financed from my fiat salary. this imposes certain constraints, and a 'measure seven-thousand seven-h
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 06:19:43; mircea_popescu: in unrelated but more interesting news, it's been pointed out to me pluriously by now that http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/ fails to include some rather interesting points, chiefly what about the rest of the cardano, other than the rng ? has it been ordered ? is it to be ordered soon ?
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155855 << this was covered in an earlier broadcast. considering that these things will cost several hundred usd -each- to produce at mf, i would like to establish that they can produce even -one- defect-free unit of that board size and pad count. thus far, the defect rate suggests that they could not.
shinohai: heh MP made the list @ #4 https://www.coingecko.com/buzz/bitcoin-leaders-speak-up-block-size
shinohai: Let's hop over to reddit and see if I can make my head hurt this early in the morning.
cazalla: guess ya could put ya beer there while ya bang her from behind
mircea_popescu: and to round off the bellbottoms point from before : and all sorts of things that AREN'T stupidities, various tiny gems ensconced in the broader turd get washed out with the water.
mircea_popescu: dear world : fuck you. you will adapt to every nook and crany of our thought. ESPECIALLY the really painful, apparently gratuitous ones. love, ~the "libertarians".
mircea_popescu: "The libertarian Bitcoinists need to get out of their bubble. Yes, they created BItcoin, but it doesn't belong to them, it belongs to anybody and everybody, and it simply can't live on existing as it did in 2013."
mircea_popescu: in other news, fresh from the ranch of unmanly grips, http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqczh9dc1m1qc6pb2o1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how the world works.
punkman: they get followed on twitter!
mircea_popescu remembers a quainter time, back when to be a leader one first had to be followed. a time when "being certified" was another way to say "being insane". stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155785 << dude check out the "leader" factory. i wish to know, are these leaded leaders or unleaded leaders ?
mircea_popescu: to understand why, think of someone making a map. he doesn't ask "does this rock benefit anyone or may i just omit it from my map ?" because while the thing may not benefit, the omission sinks ships.
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 01:04:22; williamdunne: Would there be any particular benefit to that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on the web
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155723 << this is bad design in principle, merely asking this question. if you visualise the stuff of design as a graph, what this does is introduce a cyclicity in it, which makes the graph no longer computable, or for that matter usable.
mircea_popescu: let's not confuse the humanity we see reflected in the eyes of the beast with the actual beast.
mircea_popescu: every stupidity's excused by youth, people genuinely think the 80s were cool just because that's the first time they got laid. people actually used to think bellbottoms look hot because they remembered them filled with round butts of the fillies they cared about, back in that age.
assbot: The great post of rebuttals on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1dkFRPT )
assbot: Logged on 06-06-2015 01:00:02; trinque: williamdunne: on the one hand there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-06-2015#1155715 << http://trilema.com/2014/the-great-post-of-rebuttals/#selection-243.0-243.275
mircea_popescu: in unrelated but more interesting news, it's been pointed out to me pluriously by now that http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-may-2015-statement/ fails to include some rather interesting points, chiefly what about the rest of the cardano, other than the rng ? has it been ordered ? is it to be ordered soon ?
mircea_popescu: let anyone with a clue (tm) do it themselves, it doesn't take much more brain than what a chicken has to cluck at the freshly disturbed ground for that's where the worms are.
mircea_popescu: you don't include bakeries into wheat harvesters to be driven across wheat fields, and you don't need phuctor to do everything either.
mircea_popescu: at the time phuctor was designed in 2013, the idea was that no keys could ever be factored. for this purpose, phuctor as designed is exactly adequate.
mircea_popescu: lol you're in the position of someone who made a moon exploration vessel, discovered life on the moon and is now kicking himself for not having included a condom factory in the ship.
decimation: lol punch tape to program the robot
decimation: asciilifeform: he predicts the roomba by a few decades :)
The20YearIRCloud: Granted, i guess if you wanted a $10k+ threshhold it'd make sense to up it to 50btc due to all the recent slides
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah , crowdexchanges here in the US now that the SEC has finally got off their butt and allowed small companies to list on new exchanges.
The20YearIRCloud: So I miss anything interesting or fun with mpex in the past 2-3 months?
WolfGoethe: some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight???
punkman: !up WolfGoethe
punkman: !up The20YearIRCloud
punkman: "Justus Ranvier has one of the more interesting opinions on the bitcoin blockchain that doesn’t seem to get much attention. In his view, there is no need for the block size limit to exist at all."
asciilifeform: (williamdunne? was there a scoopbot thing under testing?)
asciilifeform: in other news, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/641F87E0A992064EB7CD91BC6CC7203AD8D83FFABA7C6724A698A23F61C0C1E8
referredbyloper: trading most of the day, an find this channel realy amusing
cazalla: ah ok, i assumed it might be someone coming here from asciilifeform's site in the same manner qntra directs people here
trinque: it would not blow my mind if there are session hijacking hax to be found within, so on
trinque: williamdunne: and to elaborate on the reason why, the browser was a nightmarish wad of complexity before WS
trinque: that said I've used websockets; the whole browser's shit, subset of which WS are shit
trinque: williamdunne: I don't even mean that, just that polling might not look much different load-wise from the WS doing its thing
trinque: so the ajax vs ws thing may be more similar than it appears
trinque: browsers can pipeline requests through the same connection
williamdunne: Very true, but anything where the data is somewhat frequent I reckon would be better off in WS
trinque: and can hand them off to some backend nicely
trinque: on the ajax side, you may have tons of unnecessary polling
trinque: on the one hand, anyone with the site open in a tab is going to be a connection your server will have open
williamdunne: But if there were best happening more than every second, sure that'd be a great feature to see
williamdunne: Streaming basic pricing data, and submitting/receiving bets are the two I have used it for
williamdunne: Would there be any particular benefit to that in its intended usage? JSON/MsgPack/whatever all work fine with anything I can imagine being necessary on the web
trinque: apparently in some newer version of the standard it has a binary streaming thing
trinque: first off the thing's not a socket; iirc it throws you wads o' data piecemeal
trinque: and on the other there's considering the entire stack that got you to that point, and whether that made any sense
trinque: williamdunne: on the one hand there's a superficial "did I make it do something, and did it 'work'"
williamdunne: While with that description it does sound a bit tarded, in practise I've found them to work very well
decimation: inside of which you place another virtual channel
decimation: the shortcomings of turning a fundamentally broadcast technology into a 'virtual channel'
decimation: it would be nice to click on '3' and call up all the moduli which are factored by '3'
asciilifeform: likewise, each unknown is stamped with a date of last gcd-ing, as well as sha512 of the mass product at the time this was done.
asciilifeform: the mechanics of a correct phuctor are, roughly: thing keeps track of keys, rsa moduli within, as existing phuctor does; but instead of flagging 'phuctored' moduli, we keep table of known factors (associated with respective unknowns, which, in turn, may be yet-unphuctored moduli -or- fragments previously created by successful phuctorings)
asciilifeform just woke up to the fact that he was a fool when originally wrote phuctor. a phuctored modulus must fragment into factors, each of which is in turn subject to all future attempts at phuctoring
williamdunne: cazalla: foreplay is half the fun
cazalla: williamdunne cut the foreplay and just ask
williamdunne: Acquiring, in other words
williamdunne: Isn't that the point of WebSockets, getting rid of derpy polling?
asciilifeform: williamdunne: fundamentally - the idiot polling
williamdunne: Anyhow, what in particular is wrong with it? While there is a host of derpy technologies I'm quite fond of some things - like WebSockets
asciilifeform: as in, we take everything post-1990 or so and shoot it. then start over.
williamdunne: Re: polling, what would you suggest as the alternative? Websockets?
williamdunne: With Scoop I worked out a structure that fixes some of the issues
asciilifeform: (and this is entirely aside from the idiocy of how servers get polled continuously, etc)
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice. << it'll be fine im sure.
assbot: luke-jr comments on Call me inconsiderate, but THIS is why I don't take Luke-Jr seriously: He lost the majority of his coins on Mt. Gox when there were signs FOR MONTHS to NOT keep coins there. He lacks the ability to properly gauge situations and look into the future. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jxr94n )
asciilifeform: it doesn't matter. just pointing out that the thing follows literally none of the prescribed assumptions
williamdunne: Well then why does this matter? Scoop shares it once and you see both
williamdunne: Within how long of each other?
williamdunne: This is not a problem, so long as something changes between first seen and the update
asciilifeform: thing is, it is actually possible for the same phuctor url to be new twice.
asciilifeform: williamdunne: the dates are entirely unusable. see thread
kakobrekla: as far as i can tell dates are incorrect but the order is correct in your feed ? thats workable. perhaps scoop can cover it. i can too.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can the rss thing be made to work as expected in the form of a #b-a bot ? or too b0rk3d
mircea_popescu: for the record, my ftp problem was that someone had the bright idea of allowing port 21, but not port 20.
cazalla: jurov problem with what i'm doing or the client? not sure what else i can do here now
mircea_popescu: <cazalla> crystalspace3d.org is slow as fuck to get cs-win32libs-2.1_003.exe from btw << link ? jurov can then mirror it along with everything else.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is the second or perhaps third instance thus far that i have found so far of someone who -will- be spoken to using phucked key if anyone ever bothers to speak to him
cazalla: jurov, any idea what this is on the cs-winlibs install? can't find C:\Program Files (x86)\MSYS\msys\1.0\etc\profile when installing MSYS integration settings
asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
jurov: ^ temporary instructions there,
jurov: also, added its sum to http://explo.yt/post/2015/06/05/Eulora-for-Windows . looks like they don't publish the checksums at all
mircea_popescu: yes, because that's what i'm going to do with my time, sniff motherfucking packlets.
trinque: you could learn how to play, and it might end up being fun, but wtf bother
trinque: dwarf fortress tends to come to mind there
asciilifeform: would have to sniff packets on both sides and see where, if anywhere, they went. alternatively, set fire to it
mircea_popescu: and what am i to do, go rebuild apache or install alsa or what the fucking shit already
mircea_popescu: motherfucker NOTHING WORKS
asciilifeform: and naggum then perhaps performed seppuku to atone for xml
funkenstein_: maybe he saw the future of reddit
kakobrekla: anyway, the idea was that Aaron Swartz made suicide precisely because of RSS
kakobrekla: i thought it was in the bash somewhere
asciilifeform: the reason i cannot say for certain, is that i have very little idea of what a typical rss -reader- does with the timestamp
shinohai: ty asciilifeform for the rss feed, as now I can search easily from my irc client :D
jurov: is anyone trying them? if not' i'm supposed to wake up tmrw
asciilifeform: trinque: even hunchentoot. the www stack is fundamentally retarded
asciilifeform: the whole thing -will- have to be re-written...
asciilifeform: presently the rss link displays last 10 (in order added to db in first place, rather than order-of-phuctoring)
asciilifeform: 2) http://nosuchlabs.com/rss but not sure if this can be used in battlefield, because - guess what - werker never marked dates of phuctoring, and hence db schema never had a place for this. ergo the only dates we have are of -date submitted-
trinque: reminds me of some old flash game from the 90s that involved an amputee dog
williamdunne: mircea_popescu: Yes, and possibly the curated porn list. I've been busy this week on a rescue mission
jurov: mike_c or anyone else who has downloaded the win32 package: unpack this in C:\Eulora\June2015\Eulora
jurov: mike_c there? looks like i have nondebug build
cazalla: kuzetsa, i didn't even reach the level cap in swtor, it was basically an inferior WoW with voice overs
kuzetsa: too much work on game engine design and not enough development into the worldbuidling, gameplay, and storyline
cazalla: for the money spent on it, swtor was utter shit
cazalla: i still have my old eq boxes with the keith parkinson artwork, wouldn't mind getting some of his long ago signed pieces http://www.keithparkinson.com/images/sov.jpg but can't really spring for it at this point
kuzetsa: I miss it, and that "old republic" MMO is rubbish and almost none of my friends from SWG liked it and neither did I lol
kuzetsa: I started with everquest, but once that came out SWG became my main MMO for 7 years but then they shut it down a while ago so I dunno
cazalla: kunark, velious, luclin, planes of power, frog xpac which was the first dlc (when i quit)
kuzetsa: I've gotta admit, I never paid attention to the timeline enough to know if planes of power / luclin / velious / etc. etc. etc. came before or after <other expansion>
kuzetsa: no, proper everquest (even though it's now run by daybreak games ever since the sony online entertainment studio had all the rights sold)
trinque: what's australia now, alabama of the sea?
mircea_popescu: kuzetsa you here for the eulora ? :D
jurov: mike_c i don't know, try with the debug version
mike_c: I feel so close yet so far :) jurov: do you think you can crank out a release version or should I hunt down a debug version of the VC libraries?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, i think it's only illegal if she was urinating on another
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell bingoboingo "The dangers of trapping has"
mircea_popescu: in other news, stuff that'll get cazalla sent to prison : http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mbf37krn4p1qkw0kjo1_1280.jpg
jurov: no i mean the speed
mike_c: you have the debug VC redistributable file :)
mircea_popescu: jurov wouldn't it make sense to just strip the symbols and etc for a release ?
mike_c: wouldn't run because missing msvcp100d.dll, the debug version of that library.
mircea_popescu: do the same, not likely ot kill ya.
mircea_popescu: i need you to stop trying to go around things as if you're going to maintain some sort of control over the process or something. what all the periphrase and metaconsiderations ? you've seen a dozen people get one through saying the magic words "gimme one" or somesuch.
jurov: yes, if it works, pls host it there
mircea_popescu: if you need bw support i can host the file on eulora server
jurov: about the release?
mircea_popescu: jurov plox make a post on exployt so i can reference it in the future etc ?
chetty: jurov is the magic man, well doneand thank you
mircea_popescu: jurov 500mb is not too bad considering the sourceball is like 160mb
mircea_popescu: chetty sure, but whatr insults me here is the pretense that somehow the feelings of the bovine are more important inasmuch as they;re mostly absent.
mircea_popescu: fucking hell, poor idiots and their coats, i hope they never see a coat again and live in antarctica for the rest of their dais.
jurov: 500M in the end
mircea_popescu: jurov has to choose between taking 3 gb out of the 4gb binary or fixing email.
mircea_popescu: i have to choose between fixing X software and Y policy. because the idiots that came before me have made NOT ONE RIGHT THING.
chetty: well simple fact is raising the min wage isnt going to get that coat anyway, so its a silly argument
mircea_popescu: we count the fifty billion complex mechanical dragonflies rich kids borne by smart parents never got.
mircea_popescu: this has more to do with the fact that ipso definitio the preoccupations of the stupid will be banal. they don't have what with to miss things above a coat.
mircea_popescu: and yes, people don't get all they want, and the stupid don't get "basics" whereas the smart don't get "unimportant stuff".
mircea_popescu: dude... who the fuck said x SHOULDNT have to choose between electricity and a coat.
mircea_popescu: ing they have after work. They have never had to choose between the electric bill and a new coat as winter comes on."
mircea_popescu: "I often see victims of Commentators Disease arguing against the minimum wage on abstract grounds of economic theory. It is what commentators dobandy abstractions, railing for or against Keynes, assaulting their ideological opponents with pointed phrases. They have never had to do the arithmetic of forty times the minimum wage minus taxes minus bus fare minus rent and gotta pay the cable because it is the only th
mircea_popescu: the point isn't that smart people are somehow misguidedly imagining that everyone's smart like them.
mircea_popescu: awww the butthurt.
davout: thestringpuller: good one indeed
thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/38os22/chinese_exchanges_reject_gavin_andresens_20_mb/crwqk0r << the only good comment in that thread of poo
assbot: Philip Greenspun's Weblog » Book Review: The Redistribution Recession ... ( http://bit.ly/1Gd6Hom )
mircea_popescu: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/06/01/book-review-the-redistribution-recession/
mircea_popescu: rtgage would have more spending power by working fewer hours and/or quitting altogether. Mulligan also notes that as the program was unfavorable to lenders they had a huge incentive to promote borrower confusion and uncertainty about the disposition of their modification application. (i.e., the bureaucratic run-around might not have been accidental!)
mircea_popescu: e reported to the United States Internal Revenue Service. The first section of the chapter shows how the programs resemble government safety net programs, except that the marginal income tax rates from mortgage modification far exceed 100 percent in some instances. It turned out that a persons mortgage payments would be reduced by $1.31 for every $1 fall in income. In other words a lower-income American with a mo
mircea_popescu: One of the biggest surprises in the book is the importance of federal mortgage loan forgiveness: This chapter shows how all of these outcomes, and more, may be a direct result of stark incentives created by the FDIC and HAMP programs (hereafter jointly referenced as FH) and their practice of targeting the ratio of housing expenses to borrower income. The FH programs offer modifications on the basis of borrower incom
mircea_popescu: this matches my experience. the average english speaking "civilised world" young adult can pull on his own something between a dime and a quarter per hour's worth.
mircea_popescu: 25 cents per hour would be above the market-clearing price. Yet he can never reach the productivity of the foreign contractors unless he can get substantial work experience.]"
mod6: look how rusted the rocker arms are
mircea_popescu: aka, some countries are just not worth bothering with. the country of africa, the country of north america chief on the list.
mircea_popescu: ment is expected to decline by a much greater percentage than consumption in the short term, and by the same percentage in the long term. In this view, the investment decline is entirely a reaction to the labor market, and not a cause of the low rates of labor usage."
mircea_popescu: "Assuming, as economists usually do in aggregate analysis, that capital enhances the productivity of labor, and labor enhances the productivity of capital, then the efficient reaction to less labor is to have less capital. Investment is the rate of change of the capital stock, so even small reductions in the capital stock may be achieved by large investment reductions for a short period of time. For this reason, invest
mircea_popescu: i seem to recall the same thing
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes from ritholz site : "Please use the comments to demonstrate your own ignorance, unfamiliarity with empirical data and lack of respect for scientific knowledge. Be sure to create straw men and argue against things I have neither said nor implied. If you could repeat previously discredited memes or steer the conversation into irrelevant, off topic discussions, it would be appreciated. Lastly, kindly forgo all
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well obviously. but the problem for hypocrites is : i may at may lesure discuss their affairs in either the nominal terms they put forth or the actual realty involved, and randomly equate one branch with another at any point i feel like.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mike_c: "But many companies insist that a network or system is sufficiently air-gapped even if it is only separated from other computers or networks by a software firewall." << uh, not that one.
thestringpuller: the trilema article on practical airgapping is a good start, but a "read more"
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: is there a non-derp version of this: http://www.wired.com/2014/12/hacker-lexicon-air-gap/ << i.e. an extension of the trilema air-gap article.
pete_dushenski: "i know, let's let anyone who wants to edit articles have admin privileges because wanting is the only barrier to entry our society has !"
pete_dushenski: without any of the "i'll put it in god's hands" or "god only knows" deference, sadly
pete_dushenski: pretty much just same old idiots running around using larger-than-life forces to explain their existences
asciilifeform: the 160k 'can't buy turkeys'
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> spend more than it costs to run an african/southeast asian village... << it is not clear to me that this is so. they aren't being given actual solid money, note. they are given bezzlars, most of which come back to the loop immediately
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's noteworthy... << the sheer lameness of the dissertation titles
pete_dushenski: to quote myself : "So let me get this straight, “sustainable” doesn’t mean “long-lasting, likely to perpetuate, and likely to lead to the fullness of human flourishing” so much as “designed to give idiots resources without also teaching them how to think well enough to distribute said resources with a view towards the long-term.”"
mircea_popescu: spend more than it costs to run an african/southeast asian village for an entire year to keep a couple tards and their ill behaved, poorly brought up, genetically deffective offspring on reddit.
mircea_popescu: er, even if someone were to offer the adults in the family a $160,000 per year job it would not be rational for them to accept it. If they were ever to lose that job it would take many years of paperwork, bureaucracy, and waiting lists to get back to their current welfare lifestyle."
mircea_popescu: me) in a building with a swimming pool, two gyms, and a variety of other luxurious facilities. Their health care is free through some combination of Medicaid, Obamacare, and a city-run health system. Their food is mostly free through food stamps. They can get cash from TANF and some similar programs. They would need to earn at least $160,000 per year pre-tax to obtain the same standard of living at market prices. Howev
mircea_popescu: "If you live in an expensive city and are acquainted with families collecting welfare the book confirms what you might have noticed, i.e., that it would be irrational for the adults in the family to enter the workforce. Here in Cambridge, Massachusetts, for example, the welfare families that I have spent the most time with occupy apartments with a market rent of about $4,500 per month ($54,000 per year in post-tax inco
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's noteworthy in either those cryptome links ?
scoopbot_revived: The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-unentropic-entropy-and-other-bedtime-stories-of-primes-and-people/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-06-2015#1155219 << i have nfi when or how xapo got to be "one of the hottest". it's not even clear it ever existed.
mircea_popescu: kinda what im inching towards : the plain observation that the odds for this situation so far look like ~1% is something
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we might have a case of the proverbial 'randomly wired neural network, close your eyes and the room is dark' on our hands. these N were not crapped our by dice, but are permuted versions of properly-generated N. and could have interesting mathematical properties
pete_dushenski: unless the initiative was just a 'plan'
pete_dushenski: every single last one of the 'initiatives' outlined in that document are under-funded, poorly specified, and behind schedule
pete_dushenski: "the TIC and NETWORZ consolidation initiative is behind schedule and unlikely to achieve its goal of delivering less than 100 connections either in short- or mid-term timeframes." << not saying this is an easy task, but holy shit does the manhattan project *feel* like it was 3 generations ago. what goals can usg hope to accomplish these days, other than writing more pieces of paper and making more pp slides ?
mircea_popescu: ok, but seems to me the proposition that "if you pick a random number, the odds of it being divisible by 17 are 1 in 17" is fairly uncontroversial.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the distribution of factors in random large N is an open problem
assbot: The strange case of the unentropic entropy and other bedtime stories of primes and people. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1H8Xpuk )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform since you're here : http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-unentropic-entropy-and-other-bedtime-stories-of-primes-and-people/
pete_dushenski: "PRISM is one of the most valuable, unique, and productive accesses for NSA – don’t miss out on your targets."
trinque: I bet the chinese version of that screen does what it's supposed to, at a bare minimum
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu in other news, http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/7382BEE1309329B35A14D11394BC4068C4491033B855ED56B7CBE15AE0EB9A2A and http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/709FF94FF727A8490E99459EEC2989C1EB80FE9A03DF0F1DA6911EB4D5497907
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: it's just like the guys hunting Jack Bauer or whatever
trinque: I think in the absence of any actual history, this is what americans do: imitate (their own terrible) film
pete_dushenski: trinque: that 5-10% is important for actually working, but the other 90-95% is better at making it *look* like you're working
trinque: the only useful part of that screen is the log, and they gave it what, 5-10% of the real estate
pete_dushenski: german part : spotless, not signs telling citizens to pick up trash, people just behave themselves
pete_dushenski: or at least i saw more of these 'shiny incentives' in the french part of switzerland than the german part
pete_dushenski: nothing to hide there !
trinque: http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/05/hacked-federal-personnel-files-could-turn-employees-into-foreign-spies/ << check out that security theater FireEye interface
williamdunne: Nearly as derpy as the exchange bragging about FATCA compliance
williamdunne: WHY THE FUCK WOULD I DO THAT
shinohai: They have obnoxious ads everywhere offering 20k satoshi to sign up. wtf is that shit.
pete_dushenski: and no amount of moving to switzerland can save them
assbot: This Lawsuit Could sink one of the hottest bitcoin companies - Fortune ... ( http://bit.ly/1KeZTZ6 )
thestringpuller: Back when consoles were still kool tho, you could at least depend on Nintendo/Sony to have a sane third party get you drivers for the machine.
thestringpuller: The amazing thing is how Microsoft's plan for DirectX segmented the market like this (inconsistent GL drivers)
pete_dushenski: why not just hop in saddam, throw in a radar detector (legal here ftr), and obey the traffic laws up until i arrived at my destination
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
Pierre_Rochard: ;;later tell pete_dushenski clarifying that I am indeed not GBANGA! ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rREGbLdOzfg ) and that I would’ve thought a greyhound bus would be a great way to launder money, but events proved otherwise