decimation: the driver might be closed, but supposedly you can buy chinese knockoffs for cheap
ascii_field: may as well be a winblows item like the 1,001 it competes with
ascii_field: so solves NEITHER
decimation: absolutely they are
ascii_field: if it can't piss the bits out to pc at 1G/s
decimation: so the market for logic analyzers has shrunk to chip makers
ascii_field: why the fuck would i pay for a machine with a 128kB buffer and 1G/s sample rate ?
decimation: these days if you want to buy high speed logic, you buy a chip where someone else did everything for you
decimation: they have a shitty gpib
ascii_field: i need them at channel speed.
decimation: then you might get to write some IEEE-488
decimation: ascii_field: surely there are older HP models that run HP-UX?
mircea_popescu: soo... quantcast "upgraded" its site, now i can no longer see the graphs.
ascii_field: (yes, the high-end instruments ~actually run xp~)
decimation: to be clear, in the case of logic analyzers the main problem is that only fancy chip makers use them anymore
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: thing is, we could get the $20k one here at $firm. but it will RUN XP
mircea_popescu: ascii_field it's really a socialism problem. the plebeian criterion "it works" has surpassed the aristocratic "it makes sense". this is supposedly... better. in fact it's merely cheaper,
jurov: mod6: see there. kill yourself and you will get what you want.
ascii_field: this is how you get the iranian centrifuges with winblows, etc
ascii_field: decimation: it blows my mind that the market for sane engineering tools of even very basic varieties DOES NOT EXIST
ascii_field: 'who needs a logic analyzer that can talk to software people write themselves' ? (see yesterday's thread)
decimation: "who needs to fix their own chips?"
decimation: apparently the 'demand' doesn't exist
ascii_field: (what -doesn't- suck there ?)
ascii_field: http://blog.killtheradio.net/tricks-hacks/how-to-get-the-top2004-programmer-running-under-windows-7-64-bit << even under winblows, they suck
ascii_field: also in 1990s gigantic microcontrollers did not exist, and the complexity (db of possible chips, etc) had to live in software
ascii_field: decimation: because the world is awash in turdmeisters
decimation: ascii_field: why does it require specialized turdware then?
ascii_field: there is NO reason why eeprom programmer shouldn't just appear as usb mass storage on the pc end
decimation: their focus on providing a reasonable experience for the console user is nearly nonexistent
trinque: decimation: doing the coreos thing with dual-roots or something?
decimation: I do admit that when I've tried openbsd I've been impressed by the presence of actual documentation
BingoBoingo: https://www.quantcast.com/qntra.net << In other news two non-suck traffic days in a row
mircea_popescu: you know, trilema has a 5 minute delay in the rss feed for this and similar reasons
decimation: it forced me to learn why I don't want the latest of everything
decimation: as much as they derp on shit, they still do a decent job of delivering a platform that is a stable target
ascii_field: back in the free world.
ascii_field: but the butane example pertains to hypothetical boy with access only to 'typical u.s. household' garbage
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162078 << yes dude. the difference between cars going the same place and cars going at the same pace.
jurov: mircea_popescu: as long as there are breathing/talking holes left...
mircea_popescu: they should tho
ascii_field: (you can drop arbitrary dip into a dip-40 so long as it physically fits, and the microcontroller knows what to do)
ascii_field: (into 'zif' socket with mechanical lever, too, avoid bending the ancient pins
ascii_field: rom burner is this thing where you don't have to. pull the part # from db and drop in the chip
mircea_popescu: but you keeping the pinboard around neh ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1162025 << poor gavin, everyone wants a piece of his ass now. the sad fate of the internet lolcow.
ascii_field: in unrelated observation, there exists (nor, afaik has ever existed) an eeprom burner with true linux support.
nubbins`: there's like $150 worth of concept sketches of you riding a horse and squinting at the sun around here somewhere
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 15:38:37; nubbins`: is this something you actually plan on doing, or is this another instance of me wasting a bunch of time generating a quote for something that won't happen?
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 19:35:05; mircea_popescu: there's no avoiding having to do something to limit the derpage openssl can import into bitcoin
punkman: in other news http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Releases/Bitcoin+Gets+Second+Wind+As+World%26apos%3Bs+First+Hair+Wholesaler,+AiryHair,+Ditches+Cash+For+Cryptocurrency+With+A+Rap+Video/10644510.html
mircea_popescu: there's no avoiding having to do something to limit the derpage openssl can import into bitcoin
mircea_popescu: anyway, https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0066.mediawiki << prolly worth yet another read
punkman: one of them at least
mircea_popescu: seems the red line's way off.
fluffypony: Mary Antoinette sounds like a maid from the farmlands
fluffypony: [19:59:12] <Relos>I can hear mary antoinette saying: "let them eat cake"
trinque: clear intent to frame the blocksize thing in the context of a bunch of other (bullshit) progress!
jurov: what head banging there?
jurov: end up at the grub> prompt upon reboot << for example this is you're 90% there, use the prompt to find the kernel and boot, then reconfigure grub from the running system
ascii_field: and i should point out that in my mind gentoo is defined by ~absences~ of crud, rather than specific attributes which are ~present~
mod6: but im positive that i'd never get it configured correctly to use uclibc and whatever other configurations are required to even test this patch. even if I get the patch to work, how am I supposed to get this into such a state that someone else can repeat it?
mod6: <+nubbins`> you can't get a bash prompt? << for instance on my POS box that I bought for $129.00 an x86_64 core2duo, I can't even install the os. All i can do is boot the livecd, do the chroot stuff, and then end up at the grub> prompt upon reboot. when it comes to my instance in AWS, i've had better luck, but doing stuff for me is so time consuming. in this case, i need to get gcc recompiled with patches to see if we can get past this error we
jurov: and yes, what is *the* problem?
jurov: mod6 if what you are doing is compiling C binaries, then learning to solve gentoo problems is unavoidable part of it
nubbins`: the old world
mod6: what i'm sayin is this: without expert knowledge of how to use gentoo, I can't do what needs to be done in a reasonable amount of time. everyting for me in there is arduous, painstaking.
nubbins`: is it too salty or is there poop in it?
nubbins`: this is like telling the waiter your food tastes un-good
nubbins`: there's no "perfect posix" with no insane gotchas
nubbins`: gentoo was chosen, i believe, at the behest of alf
nubbins`: iirc, *BSD is a completely other type of retarded.
nubbins`: there was some discussion on this
ascii_field: jurov: the best known way to combine power from multiple diode lasers is fiber. but this only works for certain wavelengths where fiber works well.
mod6: you have to pick it up and then figure out all out. bzzzzt.
mod6: trinque says y, "to learn gentoo, you must have learned gentoo". which is the total truth. you can't just pick this thing up and figure it out.
mod6: and the documentation is so bad, it's not even accurate, and makes assumptions about the audience. smh.
jurov: so, in the end, combining x diodes even if not coherent needs less energy than one coherent tube.
ascii_field: gentoo is a nightmare but the non-gentoo world is an utter hell
ascii_field: (serious co2 lasers also recirculate the actual co2, rather than keeping it in sealed pipe)
mod6: im attempting to apply the gcc patch we discussed the other night: https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2015-02/msg00410.html
ascii_field: jurov: photo doesn't even include the water pumps and chiller
jurov: see the chunky power supply next to it? that's why
ascii_field: ir. so no one will be making 'sexy' films about these.
ascii_field: at close range, i'd rather take nagant bullet than a bolt from arbalest (if decently constructed)
jurov: okay. so i'd combine different wavelengths diodes then. still more easily to obtain here than nagant parts and ammo
assbot: Optics: Destructive interference - Where does the light go? - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1QSLmlO )
jurov: if you happen to end up with destructive coherence between two laser diodes, where the energy goes?
ascii_field: jurov: sorta like the famous gedankenexperiment where chinese radio orders all citizens to get on stools and jump at the same time
jurov: *either
nubbins`: i still think he used a lens to focus the beams 8)
nubbins`: that said, i was pretty unimpressed with the amount of time it took to light paper on fire
nubbins`: ascii_field i think he used a lens to focus the discrete beams
ben_vulpes: loosen her up with these big old binaries
ben_vulpes: i prefer to abuse mother postgres
jurov: ben_vulpes: redirect them to imgur?
ascii_field: (there is a reason coherent beans are more interesting than 'archimedes'-style collimated white light)
ascii_field: but the bureaucratic flavour of 'u.n. minutes'
ascii_field: that wasn't even the lulziest thing
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 15:19:36; scoopbot_revived: Franz Joseph I, Angela Merkel, and 4638 C4CA take their vows. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/12/franz-joseph-i-angela-merkel-and-4638-c4ca-take-their-vows/
assbot: Logged on 11-05-2015 18:32:09; ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-05-2015#1128111 << ancient drm wankatron where lusers are somehow coerced into 'proving' that they run virginal winblows which will obey usg dictat
ascii_field listened, out of entomological interest, to a recording of interview with hearn. yes, him. among the expected idiocies, hearn confessed to an interest in 'remote attestation' and 'trusted computing' as 'promising' alternatives to normally functioning bitcoin...
assbot: Space travel isn’t for you. There are no virgins there either. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1f6Y5FU )
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: replied http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/10/space-travel-isnt-for-you-there-are-no-virgins-there-either/#comment-20265
assbot: Don't listen to Edward Snowden's supporters – his leaks have been a gift to terrorists - Comment - Voices - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1f6VPOE )
thestringpuller: nubbins`: depends on the cost.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: also, those vettes are a steal compared to the ones here http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/strathcona-county/corvette-collectors-edition/1071669781 << "from washington state"
nubbins`: is this something you actually plan on doing, or is this another instance of me wasting a bunch of time generating a quote for something that won't happen?
nubbins`: thestringpuller yep, got it
pete_dushenski: then computers came along and i didn't give a shit about cars until 2nd year university
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1161628 << '82 all day. i loved the lines of that car as a kid.
pete_dushenski: my 1988 mazda mx-6 *had the digital dashboard*
pete_dushenski: the digital dashboard included
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 01:41:21; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: these remind me of an ancient car i've always wanted to drive, 'ford probe'
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-06-2015#1161667 << true story, i had the mazda version of the same car
pete_dushenski: in any event, promises to do this or that 'by the end of the century even though we won't have a country' is the 2nd lulziest shit all week
pete_dushenski: or mebbe 'gossipd' does exist in a century but the kids are calling it 'irc' for nostalgia's sake
thestringpuller: so garzik proposes a soft-fork, and the shills act more retarded than ever stating, "No. We need to hard fork the network and up the cap."
scoopbot_revived: Franz Joseph I, Angela Merkel, and 4638 C4CA take their vows. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/12/franz-joseph-i-angela-merkel-and-4638-c4ca-take-their-vows/
mircea_popescu: lol, the indian state is desperate because minority holder in the country. indians are nuts with the stuff.
assbot: Customs officials at Mumbai airport seize gold worth Rs 1.99 cr from aircraft toilets | The Indian Express ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvNU84 )
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 14:54:10; mircea_popescu: Theyre safe from Paxton, but theyre not safe from people like Paxton.
nubbins`: ehhh i think BDSM angle doesn't add any further drama
mircea_popescu: is there some sort of canadian conspiraci ? are they afraid of that derpy canadian corp i bitchslapped thisspring ?
mircea_popescu: you'd expect it from the press neh ?
nubbins`: i read once that the victim was actually brought around to various locations to be beaten by different people
mircea_popescu: by nature, yes. inasmuch as a party doesn't fight back, a welt's a welt and a smack's a smack you know ? whether you kloink your slave or your roomate over the head, whether they consented to it or not doesn't enter in the functions that return "isbraindamage" as aboolean.
mircea_popescu: bikers, (leather's missing), weird living arrangements ?
mircea_popescu: is there a bdsm angle to all of this ?
mircea_popescu: ie... and once the public's safe from all the paxtons, who's to keep isis out of the usis ?
mircea_popescu: Sir Thomas More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safe
mircea_popescu: Sir Thomas More: Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?
mircea_popescu: I'm glad that he was declared a dangerous offender, but that only takes one person off the street, and there are lots of Paxtons out there, so the laws have to be changed to keep the public safe, she said.
assbot: Dustin Paxton (the torturer) and Calgary's Jessica Rogers (the liar) now a coupl ... ( http://bit.ly/1L5eJTv )
mircea_popescu: http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/01/20/dustin-paxton-the-torturer-and-calgarys-jessica-rogers-the-liar-now-a-couple-and-dr-phil-episode << lol they look just like ordinary internet ppls.
nubbins`: fuck it then
nubbins`: googling "dustin paxton" brings pics of the victim, but i can't recommend you look at them
assbot: Why the blocksize limit keeps Bitcoin free and decentralized - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvL4A5 )
mircea_popescu: now whether you'd convict on thebasis of that mostlycomes down to whether you're republican or democrat.
mircea_popescu: i am at this point judging by the implicit cues and my understanding/preconceived notions re a functional police force that they most likely got their man.
mircea_popescu: aha the det crippen guy knows his job
nubbins`: asciilifeform half the kids i went to uni with had houses messier than that
asciilifeform: the 'corners are rounded', so to speak.
asciilifeform: this one has the stereotypical smell of just such a work.
mircea_popescu: the case being otherwise is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence
mircea_popescu: this is the standard interepretation whenever something appears in vice/slate/the rest of the shitsites.
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i dare to suggest that the vice article is a work of fiction. and that the illustrations are of the author's own dwelling.
mircea_popescu: suppose some ignorant twerps who think it's spelled palette asked you, about the cook dude
nubbins`: mircea_popescu depends on whether i tortured him or not?
mircea_popescu: nubbins` how would you explain the state of a roommate's palate ?
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 04:13:16; asciilifeform: i saw the insides of a few, when peeking around to rent a house last year
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the photos in the vice article look exactly like the ones i described in old thread - http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#996769
nubbins`: hard to find good examples, the crazy is spread out
mircea_popescu: nubbins` im not gonna read 69 pages of this thing and the article doesn't make it too clear , i could see either side. got some selected quotes ?
nubbins`: there's conjecture that this is all related to outstanding investigations into hell's angels
nubbins`: the torture victim's name and picture were originally published but have since had a publication ban, so it's now "the victim" and the pics are all blurred.
mircea_popescu: this hot topic of the internet.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` so why even link vice then ?
nubbins`: then, for the adult version of the same story, check this one out: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/paxton-s-version-police-interview-transcript-1.1271885
mircea_popescu: there's a reason those doing the beating are the dumbest of hte lot. this does not invalidate the beating.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i've no idea why they did it beyond the obvious fact that the type of public employed there traditionally dresses in rags
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ you sit them in the door and you slam the door into them. they WILL chew down the door, but also learn better.
mircea_popescu: ("ironically" is this internet meme where the actor pretends his actions are stupid but he knows it, he merely engages because of reasons. his job, his audience, tptb etc)
assbot: When Fandom Goes Wrong: The Dark Tale of the 'Final Fantasy VII' House | VICE | United States ... ( http://bit.ly/1MvJgqM )
nubbins`: http://www.vice.com/read/the-tale-of-the-final-fantasy-vii-house-is-a-window-into-the-dark-side-of-cosplay-529
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform always an excuse, sure. they only did it ironically, you say ? fine, fine.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: as i understood, the robes were mentioned because 'see how unique is our directorate, we let the kidz dress in rags if they wish'
mircea_popescu: funkenstein_ yes my whip is not the most intelligent part of the household. so what of it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes dude, whenever magic is discussed in terms of the robes and hats i will say retards.
mircea_popescu: so what, you propose the presence of an ethics officer pleads against the jdf's intelligence ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you were to learn that they dress the programmers in evening coats instead, would not also say 'retards' ?
mircea_popescu: ok these are retards.
mircea_popescu: "You'll see people in shorts, tee-shirts, flip-flops, black clothes."
mircea_popescu: POSSIBLE CLASSIFICATION IS TOP SECRET FROM: the SIDtoday Editor
asciilifeform: http://cryptome.org/2015/06/nsa-sid-hacker.pdf << l0l of the day! >> http://dpaste.com/1A5KQF4.txt
mircea_popescu: usually in the form "my real self hasn't emerged yet, but once it does... it took karate!11 it'll show you!11"
mircea_popescu: "i should be doing the beating"
mircea_popescu: that's what beating does, confronts the beta with the incontrovertible "if what i pretend were true and what i know to be true were not, how come i am then beaten ???"
mircea_popescu: chiefly, to themselves.
asciilifeform: this sorta describes the condition one tries to beat soldiers into
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly what the slavegirl says : i am nothing, use me for something so in that i may become someone.
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 14:20:45; mircea_popescu: and their bid is to redeem their human worthlesness through functionality
mircea_popescu: so there is.
asciilifeform: there is also merciless sparing
mircea_popescu: moreover, killing and mercilessness aren't in the automatic relationship here proposed. there is such a thing as mercy killing.
mircea_popescu: i imagine in this case from the hebrew.
funkenstein_: so Ethiks.. from the greek?
mircea_popescu: in fact, they have absolutely no connection to ethics.
mircea_popescu: lemme point out that the "feelings" idiots have no monopoly on ethics.
funkenstein_: if you want merciless military, then go for it. but don't say "oh and here's our feelings discussion group"
mircea_popescu: the point of every beta male since we were not yet descended.
mircea_popescu: if the young recruits weren't imbeciles, one probably wouldn't have to drive the broken fragments of a dysfunctionally-superficial pseudo-ethics out of their dumb skulls.
funkenstein_: regarded by themselves, for example
mircea_popescu: and moreover, since when is the young recruit a standard of measure ?
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "ethics".
funkenstein_: but the organization in question is regarded as expert in driving ethics out of young recruits minds
mircea_popescu: so then....
funkenstein_: depends on the context
funkenstein_: none do as good as the original, lol still cracks me up
mircea_popescu: if people were meant to fly they'd have had wings and if quadriplegics were meant to juggle they'd have had arms.
mircea_popescu: how about "most unwinged featherless flat nailed bipedals flight club"
mircea_popescu: you know, neither of these map on the original at all, and amusingly enough neither of these carries what you want it to, either.
mircea_popescu: you're not going to start with "life's the greatest good in and of itself" and "we're all equal so consequently no-one's life is worth less than the shine on your shoes" are you ?
assbot: Logged on 12-06-2015 02:32:16; asciilifeform: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2011/02/an_unsung_hero_of_the_nuclear_age.html << as described here.
assbot: TTIP: what exactly is the ISDS mechanism for resolving investor disputes? ... ( http://bit.ly/1GC0694 )
punkman: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/en/news-room/content/20150605STO63242/html/TTIP-what-exactly-is-the-ISDS-mechanism-for-resolving-investor-disputes
shinohai: He's just naturally not going to release his grasp upon the empire
trinque: was talking with ben_vulpes yesterday about how this is likely a matter of vulnerability to attacks against the communications of mil, not necessarily the hardware
trinque: asciilifeform: right so this whole "launch codes" thing is communication to the... lol... "missileer"
asciilifeform: was sacked from u.s. air force for asking 'how can i know whether order to launch is coming from a sane man'
asciilifeform: http://www.slate.com/articles/life/the_spectator/2011/02/an_unsung_hero_of_the_nuclear_age.html << as described here.
trinque: asciilifeform: "can the nukes be haxed" thread
trinque: I'm sure the Iranians thought their centrifuges were totally disconnected from the internet and therefore safe too
trinque: and ftr I'm still not convinced they're all safe
trinque: IN GENERAL- The Secretary of Defense shall complete an evaluation of the cyber vulnerabilities of each major weapon system of the Department of Defense by not later than December 31, 2019.
trinque: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c114:1:./temp/~c114oLaeR2:e873358: << heh DoD heard me rambling about the weapons being "turned inward"