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DanyAlos: I was looking for #bitcoin-assets on this search engine (http://irc.netsplit.de/channels), and realized that it is not listed. Is there any particular reason for not being there?
DanyAlos: Sorry for the sudden change of topic:
trinque: I'm going to grab some food, then read up on gcov
decimation: why do half the distros use it, others use readlink
decimation: the 'realpath' thing is hilarious
decimation: asciilifeform: it's lulzy that they regulate the shit of out freon for hvac, but use in fire extinguishers?
asciilifeform: they don't really do much good in a 'civilian' bitcoin node, though
trinque: which others should I apply?
trinque: pulled the trigger on this one just to see whether it'd fire up and work, but yeah, I'll use mircea_popescu's node for the gcov run
asciilifeform: otherwise you're merely reenacting history
trinque: all the events which transpired which are marked by a particular transaction
asciilifeform: not cheap either. but you can still get! (until the envirowhiners get to it, too)
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 00:02:06; punkman: http://www.damninteresting.com/the-zero-armed-bandit/
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2015#1186157 << mega-classic, and was discussed here before. including the fact that later bombmeisters have added the necessary detail of bar of soap and photocell (fluoresces under xray, sets off secondary detonator)
asciilifeform: (there was a proggy posted some years ago to use one as a camera!)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1186009 << a modern (vs. the infrared diode + mirror mat '80s kind) optic mouse is a pretty hefty computer by itself. complete with bugs
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 21:35:10; kakobrekla: the switch happens when there is 90% of miners on the new chain (determined by checking last n blocks rolling window)
punkman: I think the problem was I didn't have "realpath"
asciilifeform: it is nifty and very educational and mega-recommended to all students of the subject ^
phf: *they take
phf: the general pattern is a bunch of read-* functions, that are all ultimately reduced to read-byte or read-sequence. the an (unsigned-byte 8) stream and return whatever datrastructure
phf: ben_vulpes: like asciilifeform said there are better approaches, but yw
ben_vulpes: of the active users.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 11:58:29; jurov: she wore out several of them
asciilifeform: punkman: your shell, for some reason, isn't seeing the install dir
asciilifeform: punkman: you gotta download the deps !
ben_vulpes: phf: (v. instructive among other good things)
asciilifeform: i bet the linked turd is not long for this world
asciilifeform: save the thing somewhere (archive.today ?)
ben_vulpes: muchas gracias for the hrdy link
asciilifeform: ^ up, for the time being
assbot: Raising Darwin's Consciousness: An Interview with Sarah Blaffer Hrdy on Mother Nature - The Primate Diaries - Scientific American Blog Network ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVafZf )
assbot: Raising Darwin's Consciousness: Sarah Blaffer Hrdy on the Evolutionary Lessons of Motherhood - The Primate Diaries - Scientific American Blog Network ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVafIN )
assbot: Raising Darwin's Consciousness: An Interview with Sarah Blaffer Hrdy on Mother Nature - The Primate Diaries - Scientific American Blog Network ... ( http://bit.ly/1GVaeVi )
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 23:58:23; mircea_popescu: this is rank nonsense if you think any about it. the only part of sex that's in short supply is the erect penis. everything else is overabundant. how exactly would the owners of the only rare part be paying anyone for anything whatsoever ?
asciilifeform: (or rather, tx's issued by house.)
asciilifeform: they'd just all happen to be employees of the house.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-07-2015#1186176 << not if done correctly. all the peanutgallery could see is 'the statistically expected number of players won'
assbot: Logged on 04-07-2015 00:05:12; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184828 << speaking of which : a) you folk are gonna publish ips once the sync's done yes ? and b) bringing a seed up on nsa hardware this month maybe ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185164 << o has it ? mod6 you got any opinion on the subject ?
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 13:37:30; decimation: oh no the reddit owners treat the tens of thousands of people that work for them for free as slaves!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185163 <<< but i thought they OWNED REDDIT NOTES!!11
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 11:58:29; jurov: she wore out several of them
shinohai: [sic] their
shinohai: "due to there incompetence in securing there system" >>> http://redd.it/3c1n6r
mircea_popescu: this difference is a lot more marked than the subtle contortions the supreme court's been using these last years to rule in favour of unexamined hipsterism
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 02:57:14; decimation: http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/30/heres-why-an-officer-was-legally-allowed-to-shoot-the-escaped-prisoner-in-the-back/ < "You cannot shoot any fleeing felon, but certainly you can shoot the one who poses a real threat. There was no reason to believe this person who had killed a police officer before was not posing a real threat."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184982 << there is a difference between "reason to believe poses a threat" and "no reason to believe doens't pose a threat".
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 02:19:38; trinque: the docker daemon itself is this vast wad o' golang that runs as root
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 01:56:25; asciilifeform: whose only purpose is to be one of the 'provably fair' winners that day
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184908 << this is dubious. people failed to realise and walk away from us, why would they move away ever ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184828 << speaking of which : a) you folk are gonna publish ips once the sync's done yes ? and b) bringing a seed up on nsa hardware this month maybe ?
mircea_popescu: i dunno how or why it'd be worth anyone's time, outside of the perverse interests of entomologists etc.
mircea_popescu: this is why i have people doing summaries of the shit, which summaries i generally do not read.
mircea_popescu: now that usg finally arrayed enough ethereum shitfountains to imagine it can pull it off, the tune changed. and it changed mid sentence and full spin around.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1184817 << the loller of all time. when bitcoinj were making a 2nd implementation, the same crowd gnashed teeth about what a horribly bad and not good and dangerous and canned doom of an idea it is.
assbot: The Zero-Armed Bandit • Damn Interesting ... ( http://bit.ly/1Ral2ZG )
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 00:07:59; trinque: asciilifeform: the thought actually was... "so emacs is a sort of masamune... lol!"
mircea_popescu: this is rank nonsense if you think any about it. the only part of sex that's in short supply is the erect penis. everything else is overabundant. how exactly would the owners of the only rare part be paying anyone for anything whatsoever ?
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 23:57:40; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184666 << as i understand, this is an example of 'smv' (sexual market value) as described by mocsny and kokkarinen at work. it takes the form of 'man: what can i afford' 'woman: with your bid, you can afford to be my driver and pay two-thirds of my rent. in return, you get every 47th fuck, if good behaviour.'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184774 << no, i'm sure it works quite well. a good pick-up line is made out of two parts, one's a valuation and the other's an unknown. then conversation can proceed around the unknown and as it proceeds, etc.
mircea_popescu: what exactly about this chick or that dude is making them be "regular folks", which is to say chattel rather than persons ?
mircea_popescu: seems pretty much the same proposition.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 23:15:29; danielpbarron: i told him that I don't trust https in general and he completely flipped out to where he was yelling accusations like "you're going to get exposed for the fraud you are! we use https here!" or something like that
mircea_popescu: otherwise, women drinking themselves into beds has been a mainstay of post-colonial british empire.
mircea_popescu: trinque okay, but you know, the term both preexists and actually has genuine usage outside of whatever hipster subculture.
trinque: not various other multiple-partner arrangements
trinque: mircea_popescu: referring to the particular euphemism used around these parts to refer to the lifestyle where you get fucked up and fuck other dudes, and call it a sexual orientation
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 23:04:05; danielpbarron: you'd think, but they are more of the socialist nature than they'd like to admit to themselves which becomes quite apparent when someone like me starts advocating feudalism and slavery
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 22:49:55; danielpbarron: they're all into this whole "polyamory" thing which is a just ephemism for mysandry
mircea_popescu: the cost to the enemy of any device is made out of a real and a perceived factor. these sometimes diverge. all radiation things diverge in the sense of perception overwhelming reality.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 22:46:19; decimation: yeah, it might be visible, but the effort going into turning a bomb into an 'aerosol delivery system' is probably wasted. Like ascii's point about chemical EMP bombs
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184654 << we'd have to do the math about it. but remember : stinkbombs don't work by actually choking anyone.
mircea_popescu: the obvious approach would be to protest these uppity kindergartners feel too special for their own good. but that's merely sympthom imo.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 21:09:51; ascii_field: 'let's break semantics of everything because it isn't like anyone still expects anything to work as printed on the tin'
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 21:04:00; ascii_field: usgicity is infectious - no one wants to be the first fella to stop clapping when it's clap-for-stalin time
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184517 << quite. this is how the fellow ends up having to do "enough" gestures. shcelling point
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184505 << this is actually true. it pays to be a terrorist because then they don't hassle you in the hopes that you somehow don't notice that you're the only one unhassled by the gestapo in a field of obsequious peasants.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 21:01:47; ascii_field: isn't BoA infamous for being, approx., the microshit of u.s. banks ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184474 << possibly. it's not directly cut, because permaindexes just add to the complexity of keeping a node.
mircea_popescu: kay then
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 20:44:30; ascii_field: 'getdata is used in response to inv... ...t can be used to retrieve transactions, but only if they are in the memory pool or relay set - arbitrary access to transactions in the chain is not allowed to avoid having clients start to depend on nodes having full transaction indexes (which modern nodes do not).'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184469 << incidentally, what is the republic's take on this ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184352 << which puts trinque about on par with the average developer these days, who ALSO hasn't read anything in about five years. just wrote more unreadable chicken scribblings. each day.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 18:18:22; ascii_field: (though, comically, it can still decide that said ip 'misbehaves' and is then left dead in the water)
DanyAlos: Hello there.
mircea_popescu: because that means i'll have to bring forth the tracked 800kton one.
mircea_popescu: "Should the outsiders gain authority, they have no real power, because they do not know how to work the levers to operate the machine."
mircea_popescu: heck, the way usg is going, this is actually becoming more and more true each decade.
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 16:19:40; decimation: I'm sure that if you met the leaders of the average usg institution they would strike you as nice people trying to do the right thing. they are just imprisoned by their choices, making them into figureheads
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184203 << im sure if you make inquiries inside any prison, it's just a large collection of well meaning family fathers that have been put there by the conspiracy of fate and the iniquities of evil men.
punkman: "I can't use ::int64_t as it not defined on all compilers for example on some platforms (Windows) we do not have stdint.h so we do not have int64_t in the global namespace. "
trinque is astounded at the amount types wiggle platform to platform
mircea_popescu: almost there. be what, coupla hours
trinque: will document what I ended up having to do to build it at the end
trinque: mod6: switching to vanilla gcc got past the fPIC barf
mircea_popescu: to "discredit yourself" in the estimation of boring old aunties and so forth is exactly what cool is all about.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck wants to "credit himself" with the retarded ?
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 16:16:04; decimation: https://devinhelton.com/2015-06-25/meme-theory < "Thus, outsiders discredit themselves when they make accusations of conscious conspiracy. Any person of even mid-level status knows that the statement is flatly false. They know that the accused elites genuinely do seem to care about helping people. They know there is no conspiracy. Thus they discount the self-interest theory and pay no further attention."
trinque: which I do habitually, as if trying to climb across the desk with the mouse
trinque: ah yeah, I've had mine move suddenly if I lifted the mouse while using it for that reason
mod6: otherwise, it could be something with the surface that you're using it on... like if its some how refracting in some strange way
mircea_popescu: otherwise we'd be working accounting on excel spreadsheets.
mircea_popescu: well of course. problems down the road is what we signed up for.
trinque: mod6: I'm going to re-run it with the "vanilla" gcc now
decimation: zooming out, the game theory is definitely against someone trying to make bigger blocks
mircea_popescu: looky here : a) mpex makes more money than the entire faux & pretend ecosyustem of coinbases and whatnot. those COST, a shitton of money, for the services they fail to provide.
kakobrekla: i still see problems down the road.
kakobrekla: ah right the 1mb fits , forgot that.
kakobrekla: 90% < thats just the breaking point. once they figure out they have no wehre to send those coins short of mpex, those will be gone too.
mircea_popescu: their job begins and ends with rejecting bad blocks. they are in no way involved in deciding what that means.
mod6: <+trinque> suggests it's maybe a matter of the hardened toolchain eh? << yeah, i think this is a clue
mircea_popescu: this is why miners are NOT actually seated at the table.
mircea_popescu: in other words, they can go hang, won't be noticed, won't be missed.
trinque: rather than which libc
trinque: suggests it's maybe a matter of the hardened toolchain eh?
mod6: weird. that's basically the same problem i had with uClibC [ libpthread.a(pthread_cond_wait.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `__gcc_personali
trinque: the tail end ^
trinque: cannot paste the whole boost build log
kakobrekla: and the even bringing that percentage even higher as some give up.
kakobrekla: when this happens there already is such condition as i described give or take
kakobrekla: the switch happens when there is 90% of miners on the new chain (determined by checking last n blocks rolling window)
decimation: I find the probability of that happening to be very low
mircea_popescu: last i heard davout was looking for ways to programatically exploit the shitcoin
mod6: punkman: you may want the kills_integer_retardation in there, as well as nubs`'s gentoo sanity, at least the part with the copying over of the headers & libs in auto.sh check those out here:
mircea_popescu: the mass slaughter of a large contingent of people who act as if "doing what everyone else does is safe", and who lose millions at it is the best thing that can happen.
mod6: <+punkman> ascii_field, does this sequence look right? >> 0.5.3.1-release + orphanage nuke + tx-orphanage + dnsseed_snipsnip + zap_hardcoded_seeds + zap_showmyip + dns thermonuke + irc nuke << looks right to me.
mircea_popescu: as eulora tips say, "a willingness to learn is not mandatory. neither is survival."
mircea_popescu: and the same people will be selling the farm three to six months down the road.
decimation: exactly, so if they have brains this will wake them up to 'wtf is going on with bitcoind'
kakobrekla: they are getting spammed with 'bitcoin upgrades' as we speak
mircea_popescu: so yes, zombies. just, make sure you identify the necromancer driving them correctly
mircea_popescu: and that somehow is by selling what they mine.
decimation: kakobrekla: exactly, which is why they would use whatever other people say is good
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla that's fine. they also have to make money somehow.
punkman: ascii_field, does this sequence look right? >> 0.5.3.1-release + orphanage nuke + tx-orphanage + dnsseed_snipsnip + zap_hardcoded_seeds + zap_showmyip + dns thermonuke + irc nuke
kakobrekla: but 'miners' are zombies, will eat whatever comes their way and cant count on them thinking about anything
mircea_popescu: but in any case : money talks. not "power rangers" and not the 0.3% ROI miners. and if moneys says fuck you everyone goes home and tries something else for next year's costume party.
decimation: kakobrekla: that's why the reference implementation ought to be written to appeal to miners
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i welcome the verification of this theory in the field.
decimation: maybe it was the work of the volunteer diggers in san francisco
kakobrekla: the truth be this or that, if the majority of miners takes up big blocks pogos and company is phucked
mircea_popescu: ascii_field get a load of this : three days of random, odd internet behaviour, discussed here publicly, which then went away by itself. i did nothing to the server, i asssume neither did you.
decimation: go to blockchain.info and watch the waterfall of txns
mircea_popescu: shinohai aha cool then. no spurts or weird disconnects or anything ?
mircea_popescu: i think i said this before, but in any case bears repeating insistently : larger blocks are a complex discussion that will involve many and numerous benchmarking. it's not the simple matter idiots make it out.
mircea_popescu: decimation prolly. who the hell knoiws why people vote
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: trying to recall - was it you who tried to parallel-process the signature checks ?
decimation: anyway, my earlier meta-point was that I theorize that many voted for obama because he was black but 'not that kind of black'
ascii_field: in other nyooz, 340100+
mircea_popescu: impossible to discern how much is a case of "the missionary used a word to best describe what he saw" and "we have created a structure through normal function". anyway, minor point.
decimation: "The main Luo livelihoods are fishing, farming and pastoral herding. Outside Luoland, the Luo comprise a significant fraction of East Africa's intellectual and skilled labour force in various professions. Others members work in eastern Africa as tenant fishermen, small scale farmers, and urban workers."
assbot: Luo dialect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1TaAliD )
decimation: they have their own language
mircea_popescu: ie, is it equivalent to saying "one of the terrorist people" or to "one of the lordship" ?
assbot: Luo people of Kenya and Tanzania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1TaA8fm )
mircea_popescu never bothered with it, but is this luo people an internal or an external identity ?
decimation: well, my point is that obama is from the Luo people
mircea_popescu: i do know it is upon the proponent to ~prove~ rather than just assert that the tools we developed to discuss and analyse the "terra irredenta" movements in italy cca 1800 are also applicable or meaningful in black africa.
decimation: so there's 'no meaningful difference' between igbo in nigeria and a majang in ethiopia?
mircea_popescu: but it may mean the map doesnt work for describing it./
mircea_popescu: decimation gotta bear in mind that "ethnicity" is not a thing, just a word we use for the thing. it's a map. that a map is flat and a place is round does not mean the round place has no geography
mircea_popescu: this isn't a lego car where all the pieces match shinohai
mircea_popescu: the french just started using it cca 1800 as if, and nobody really discussed the matter.
mircea_popescu: decimation i am broadly unconvinced the concept of ethnicity makes any sense in africa.
decimation: they generally come from wester africa
ascii_field: can help organize the cn surrender, too
decimation: note that obama is not 'black' in the sense of being ethnically like most black africans who live in the us
shinohai: The WH lineup for 2016 is a circus already.
decimation: he's the bastard son of a kenyan
mircea_popescu: "asian" is about as descriptive as "the country of earth"./
mircea_popescu: is that the car brand ?
mircea_popescu: didn't work so well for obama this theory
mats: well, further you get from immigrant parents, more retarded you usually get
mats: the first asian woman!!1
mircea_popescu: i gotta say i absolutely am loving the choices of women to put "in tech" the enema's makin'.
ascii_field: 'heightening the contradictions' (tm)
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 15:51:49; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184085 << it's the story of how the b-a WoT members were the coolest kids at the party, or how I pissed off a bunch of socially inept libertards by being seen hangning out with the hot chick
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184130 << running out of random letter combinations over at the start-up culture plant/
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184112 << either the only person figuring this shit's funny was german, or else they suffer from the disadvantage of being the second largest thing in nato.
mircea_popescu: ah. just a buncha stupid kids "trying" like the entire world were a kindergarten and "best effort" were a thing and really, we're just playing here.
ascii_field: was speaking of the 'in this country' bit
mircea_popescu: ascii_field what is "the very important business" a reddit chapter seeded and mostly fed by usg's own something awful crew would conceivably be doing iyo ?
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for trinque from 1 to 2 with note: Provided much assistance with Gentoo
assbot: Successfully added a rating of 1 for shinohai with note: Helping to test the bitcoin Reference Implementation
kakobrekla: mod6 the prefix is '!v'
mircea_popescu: i've not seen the likes of it since romania.
mircea_popescu: buncha amateurs the people in this country i swear...
mod6: !rate shinohai 1 Helping to test the bitcoin Reference Implementation
mod6: phf: was this the page you were trying to follow?
mod6: oh yeah, now that page was the one i was referring to; i find it pretty unhelpful at all unless you're looking for just who submitted/signed & the sig.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 19:01:15; trinque: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html << ossum
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-07-2015#1185572 << these appear to be in entirely random order...
mod6: and really, if you wanna follow along, it helps to have the historical timeline 'in head' as well by reading the logs since last October.
phf: i was actually taking a harder position, if somebody wants to follow along they should read the mailing list from the beginning, and having it all accessible in one place for offline reading helps
phf: jurov: i don't think there's complete understanding as to what should go into patchlist yet. the one we have now is fine, and i'm sure it will be improved
mod6: anyway, we'll get there.
shinohai: I have little better that piques the imagination
mod6: but pre-milestone release, it does get hard to follow. and since I do believe it'll still be some time before we get the next milestone cut, I should prepare some sort of document so individuals can help test. (we very much appreciate the enthusiasm and the help!)
shinohai: That would be the easiest, releases
mod6: yah. we would certainly put all the patches applied to a specific baseline into RELEASE_NOTES.txt as it was for v0.5.3.1
ascii_field: (iirc this was the case in 5.3.1 actually)
ascii_field: mod6: i kinda assumed you and ben_vulpes would roll the patch sequence docs into releases
mod6: i'm not sure what to do about this as far as the email list is concerened, yet.
mod6: there are a number of different directions these emails go in; patching for v0.5.3.1, pogotronic, gentoo, etc, etc. so I'll try my best to make this apparent when I write up a patch list, etc.
mod6: so phf brings to light a good point, reading through the email list, especially if you haven't read the b-a logs from oct-14 on is probably more than a bit hard to follow. ascii_field brings up a good point about having a 'family tree'
mod6: and trinque, did you hvae that -fPIC issue on gentoo with uClibC? that's the same error I was talking about all last month and in the SoBA
jurov: <mod6> one of the things that pains me with the SHA1s re-written into the filenames, is if you pull these files with curl, you have to rename them to their original names before you can verify the signatures. << good point
jurov: <trinque> jurov: could the btc-dev mailing list send mail via tls? ok, considered
mod6: it should allow you to sync off of mp's blockchain w/the appropriate cmdline params and then do dumpblock/eatblock when it's finished or whatever you like.
ascii_field: but presently haven't the time to do a proper job of it
mod6: i saw that comment yesterday, I briefly looked at it's page ascii_field, I'll take a deeper look at musl soon. hopefully that'll get us further?
ascii_field: (author explicitly subscribes to the 'short, readable, and compatible' thing)
phf: jurov: i'm not in a position to make suggestions to the way things are done in the republic :) i used patches.html, i found some issues with it from the perspective of figuring out what transpired before i started paying attention, so i did extra work on top. cura te ipsum. i figured having mailbox available will make the works of others after me easier
ascii_field: presently i suspect that 'musl' is the only glibc replacement that has any promise
trinque: I'll restart from the beginning and paste the whole thing
Jautenim: I coaxed it to compile the turd but segfaults straight away
ascii_field: it was meant to be a picture of my (at the time) set
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: probably the most dire omission is any 'family tree' for the patches
phf: ascii_field: having a turnkey solution is not the intent behind my request (though i prefer tools in my mail client to messing around with lynx/wget.) i'm interested in having a "take to mars" copy of bitcoind history. right now it's a bit all over the place. patches here, email text there, etc.
trinque: but I see the point clearly
jurov: but you sorely underestimate the work needed to put together http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/patches.html
trinque respects the various buttons he's created for himself to do all kinds of destructive things
jurov: i have nothing against publishing the mailbox
ascii_field: my point is that this is Not Like Other Projects
phf: jurov: i only joined the conversation recently, so i don't have a complete history of emails. of course i'm getting complete emails now, but not the past ones
ascii_field: if they loom large, it is because you are not spending the requisite effort
ascii_field: the manual gymnastics on command line should be a ~VANISHINGLY~ small fraction of your efforts
ascii_field: the point, which i've been trying and apparently failing to make for ages, is that if you are thinking about automating this, you are 'doing things wrong'
trinque: could refine that to "and then presents me a buffer of the diff"
ascii_field: may as well use 'git' etc. then
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 19:44:53; phf: mod6: well, lets say you have something like mutt open with the current email. it's pretty easy to write a script that takes current email and feeds it to an external script, that splits out patch, verifies it with the provided sig, and then applies it to the codebase (or pushes it into some queue of patches as a case may be). i.e. you read the email, push "p" to do everything for you, and then move on to the n
shinohai: ikr, I get it all in the mailing list, no confusion there.
jurov: i don't understand, either
jurov: um...er... if you want whole emails..then just receive them?
ascii_field: put it this way, if tomorrow you are shipped to alpha centauri with just the reference client, you must be able to set up bitcoin there.
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 18:54:52; punkman: mod6, let me know if you want me to rebase/resubmit cpuminer-snip or guicruft-snip before the next release

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