trinque: and I'll be curious at 5:15 whether it shits something verifiable on deedbot.org
trinque: towards the end, yeah
asciilifeform: probably the norwegian titles
asciilifeform: iirc 2 chokes on just about anything other than straight ascii
trinque: as for now, I made curl and gpg kiss via the shell (quoted of course)
trinque: asciilifeform: dunno, python was choking on the string silently; maybe I'll investigate more later
asciilifeform realizes with horror that he owns perhaps 90% of the titles in naggum's library list
asciilifeform: trinque: can you get me any output from the crash ?
trinque: I just grabbed it with requests *and* verified it with the gnupg turd by hand
asciilifeform: sed by other U.S. and foreign government agencies. Apart from their evident utility as frequency standards in laboratories engaged in research in that field, or responsible for the maintenance and transmission of standard frequency and time signals, there was at first no well-established application for these instruments. '
asciilifeform: 'Though the instrument spoke well for itself, National continued its promotional efforts. These were misplaced, for there was in those early years no commercial market. Ninety percent of those first fifty Atomichrons were purchased by military agencies for their own installations and for loan to other government facilities, university-operated military laboratories, and university laboratories. The other 10 percent were purcha
trinque: asciilifeform: the text of that message silently crashes or hangs python when **printed!!**
assbot: IEEE UFFC | History | Atomichron: The Atomic Clock from Concept to Commercial Product ... ( http://bit.ly/1ToQzVJ )
asciilifeform: iirc the tube's good for about a decade
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decimation: appears to have onboard ocxo, which the datasheet claims 5e-8 stability - about +/- 1.5 seconds per year
decimation: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Datum-Symmetricom-BC635PCI-U-PCI-Time-and-Frequency-Card-BC635PCI-QTY-Avail-/161733020476 < for folks wishing to create their own usg-free ntp server
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> ^^ i dare to suggest that the patch be considered by therealbitcoin ^^ << This is a bitcoin.conf option
trinque: like... I'm just going to shell out to the gpg binary
trinque: this python-gnupg is a motherfucking piece of shit
asciilifeform: wtf did that ~other~ list come from
asciilifeform: i motherfucking signed it
asciilifeform: and none of the microshit
asciilifeform: notice, none of the american pablum
trinque: heh osu has throttled me for pulling too many distfiles from them
trinque: I dunno, maybe this included the basement books
asciilifeform: and i ~remember~ the list from his estate sale
asciilifeform: esp. since i have it on good authority that they've been laser-printing that pdf
asciilifeform: (the pdf you get if you're an idiot and pay ansi $20, or on warez - same, is an almost unreadable scan)
asciilifeform: the coveted ansi standard, in particular
asciilifeform: that'd be the real deal
asciilifeform: trinque: have you tried emailing xach for a copy of the archive and very spiffy browsing scripts ?
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 18:37:52; mircea_popescu: sounds like you reached the age of cazalla
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195371 <<< what can i say other than the longer i am sober the more inclined i am to head outside than sit here on pc
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/be78def1cabf80ec440a73edf5dbbd7b/tumblr_n9svk1RoIs1s6dk4zo1_500.jpg
asciilifeform: gonna tell me that the folks who service the money printers are paid 'for unique skills' rather than 'because who will stop them from taking every other bucket home' ?
asciilifeform: what part of the linked text is false ?
pete_dushenski: or venice, as the case may be.
pete_dushenski: fascinating hubris, these guys.
mircea_popescu: you generally know who the retards wish to be by looking whose words they try to misuse.
pete_dushenski: because "the market doesn't work unless we make it work"
pete_dushenski: another word for socialists to reappropriate
asciilifeform: someone here might have told me that the fella who put that book together later turned sc4mz0r somehow
pete_dushenski: "Overall, the fact that the rise of top incomes has been much greater in certain sectors, such as finance, and among senior executives is more consistent with a pattern of rent (excess earnings relative to market-determined earnings) creation and extraction specific to those sectors than with a competitive market for skills." << because "market" is now synonymous with "fair". donchaknow.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: there is a dead-tree book containing 'satoshi's posts'
trinque: danielpbarron: the whole forum?
asciilifeform: trinque: if you need my site for anything, it's there
asciilifeform: i fail to see why i would need them to move any faster.
asciilifeform: aha, like other chipsets
decimation: well, there must be some level of 'basic functionality' the eth device supplies without it
asciilifeform: it is running without the weird acceleration crap
asciilifeform: decimation: there is not.
pete_dushenski: o hey bloombergview figured out footnotes. they're catching on to the style, those nooz types, next is qntra-level content.
asciilifeform: because to hell with having items that aren't in constant required use, in there.
decimation: https://www.mail-archive.com/misc@openbsd.org/msg138968.html < ah well then I am pleased to annouce that apparently openbsd will be supporting oceton usb in the very near future
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron lmao you are there are you ?
assbot: Market Complexity Broke the NYSE Before Saving It - Bloomberg View ... ( http://bit.ly/1gqVkjc )
punkman: http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-07-09/market-complexity-broke-the-nyse-before-saving-it
pete_dushenski: ayup. i can't seem to keep them straight.
decimation: ah that explains it then
pete_dushenski: decimation i continue to confuse the bsd's... for the edgerouter, i used freebsd as well !
asciilifeform: in other newz, uncle al was smart. emailed me at my consulting co. to see if comment was from an actual human
decimation: anyway, the net effect of this 'govt secrecy' racket seems to be to keep secrets from usians, not from foreign spies
decimation: yeah, good point. the vast majority of the 'real estate wealth' I just mentioned is actually notional value on some bank's loan sheet
asciilifeform: get fleeced, rather
decimation: you would end up with that chart I posted yesterday, which shows that 10 counties 'own' the majority of us real estate wealth
decimation: as if the vast collection of trailer parks 'downstate' makes up for the $mil condos in arlington
asciilifeform: and you would not ever guess this fact, from the linked chart.
asciilifeform: fact is, there are 20k usd houses and same building elsewhere for 2mil.
decimation: "The RPPs are calculated using price quotes for a wide array of items from the CPI, which are aggregated into broader expenditure categories (such as food, transportation, or education)1. Data on rents are obtained separately from the Census Bureau's American Community Survey (ACS). The expenditure weights for each category are constructed using CPI expenditure weights, BEA's Personal Consumption Expenditures, and ACS rents expenditur
asciilifeform: (^ it is very plain that they disregarded real estate)
mircea_popescu: the us doesn't even have a fgucking missile spec sheet.
mircea_popescu: who exactly has the chinese lists ?
assbot: Map: How much $100 is really worth in every state - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1gqUrqP )
decimation: asciilifeform: the irony is that cn govt and us govt know what is going on, but the average usian voter is kept in the dark
asciilifeform: 'they have list' - 'we have list'
asciilifeform: this is precisely what the pencilpushers mean by 'standard traditional intelligence gathering'
decimation: now even the janitors have to worry
asciilifeform: decimation: and in vietnam war they didn't ?
decimation: because now even the little kids growing up today will know what they are signing up for if they work for usg
mircea_popescu: obviously it was for the children
decimation: mircea_popescu: sure it does, if she has a strap-on and another 300 men lined up
asciilifeform: which recently pioneered mega-innovations like switching to wholly-imaginary, rather than merely underpowered, airplanes
asciilifeform: (the favourite sons)
asciilifeform: the 'thanking' is not wholly stockholm syndrome, but is used to justify giving every other printed usd to the .mil contractors
mircea_popescu: either before that tomorrow or after that tomorrow, some arab kids too.
mircea_popescu: all i see here is, the usg is no longer a virgin. today, china raped them and they thanked it for the service.
asciilifeform: hey, the mega-cunt left vacant by su had to be filled
mircea_popescu: it was, literally, "we like this kind of rape - the guy is strong enough."
asciilifeform: ^ trivial. if fella works at embassy and ~isn't~ in the list, he's cia
asciilifeform: 'Not every spys data is in the system. The CIA conducts its own security clearance investigations and keeps that data to itself. Even so, some U.S. officials have said that a foreign spy service might be able to identify U.S. intelligence operatives by comparing stolen OPM records with rosters of U.S. personnel at embassies overseas.'
asciilifeform: (the latter - us, coolies - contractors)
mircea_popescu: decimation i like that the only thing said there is "we like china cock - so delishious!!1"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the funny part is that there are various limits, in fact, because actual civil servant gets pension, health cover, holidays, statutorily
mircea_popescu: really, this should be in the constitution : not more than one person per million.
asciilifeform: decimation: there is an official usg fiction that dirt lifted from 'airbus' isn't passed straight to 'boeing', etc
decimation: I guess it's roughly the same logic that leads one to conqueror Iraq (or Afghanistan) and then pretend that extracting tribute is immoral
decimation: I would like to see the moral reasoning that leads one to believe it is 'ok' to 'conduct traditional espionage' but not the kind that 'can benefit industry'
assbot: Hack of security clearance system affected 21.5 million people, federal authorities say - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1NWRQ3f )
decimation: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/federal-eye/wp/2015/07/09/hack-of-security-clearance-system-affected-21-5-million-people-federal-authorities-say/ "However, some U.S. officials caution against taking actions against foreign states when the cyber theft is conducted for traditional spying motives. The United States has not officially named China or the motive, but privately officials say it appears China was conducting a form of trad
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1195171 << Viking recuntissance in North America happened at a pre-Apocalyptic time. By the Anglo Arrival diseases brought by the Spanish had left North America post-apocolyptic
asciilifeform: http://bgr.com/2015/07/08/hacking-tools-pita-encryption-keys-radio-waves << why is this ~2 yrs. plus-old project constantly in the nyooz
decimation: asciilifeform: amusing thread re: Guido et.al. discussing how how exactly they should fuck somebody trying to just 'import pkg' https://mail.python.org/pipermail/import-sig/2012-March/000430.html
trinque: lol, at least it will give me something to read til the power goes out
punkman: trinque: there is no hope
trinque: nah a command line thinger I can toss a url or regexes at and have it duplicate the site locally
trinque: I'm archiving things for the derpocalypse
asciilifeform: in other 'news,' my node has 44 connections
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.7/octeon/INSTALL.octeon < they claim that openbsd doesn't support usb storage
gribble: The operation succeeded.
decimation: USB support yet, which means that there is no local storage
decimation: ;;later tell pete_dushenski There is no
ag3nt_zer0: thanks for the words of encouragement
mircea_popescu: one kid unhappy with the other poseurs in the "cancelarie" of romanian schools cca 1980. maybe two. in each school.
mircea_popescu: if it makes you feel; any better, this is a traditional problem of teaching as practiced since that bismarck's invention of the "school"
mircea_popescu: so tell them that.
ag3nt_zer0: my problem is that I get so fucking mad at these poseurs who have the nerve to claim that they carry the flame of knowledge to pass on to these kids... when all they are doing is trying to make themselves appear nice in their own mirrors
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: yes, I still have to learn the ropes in these ways... don't fret, my inner psychopath is learning
mircea_popescu: you, of all the only people here, are in the best position. stop making up random excuses.
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 15:07:02; asciilifeform: can be attached to the gpio in pogo
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: the principal said that I have a choice... but it was just a sidelined statement really
trinque: it's not like you're going to save that public school from itself and then that'll somehow mean the empire doesn't fall over anyway
trinque: the whole thing's coming down anyway
ag3nt_zer0: but I won't say anything till I make my money to travel the world next year... then when I quit I will mention that they should look into their shit a little more
trinque: so piss in all their cheerios or leave, mang
ag3nt_zer0: and trinque, this is a PARENT PARTICIPATION school... and none of these motherfuckers seem to know that their entire discipline system was created by this jack ass
trinque: really do have to be willing to fight people to keep any sanity in the states
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 so you told them that "maybe YOU do, miss derp, but I do not. anything else ?"
ag3nt_zer0: and it turns out the entire thing was created by a guy who commited suicide in a hotel room after he was accused of molesting kids
mircea_popescu: sort-of like the "here's gavin's head on a plate, fuckwits. now what ?"
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 14:50:35; asciilifeform: we launch the pogos, and suddenly 'ntp is obsolete, dontchaknow,' here is a new replacement by poettering, 85% consensus1111!!!1111!!! within weeks, plug pulled on ntp servers
trinque: and when the child screams for another cupcake, you shall deliver it to him in no less than 15 seconds
ag3nt_zer0: so i resisted for a while, then finally looked it up thinkning "ok, I'll have a good go at it and backburner my cynicism"
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: to be fair, I was subbing last year, and so these were not "my" classrooms, but still, it is just so fucking degenerate man... but check this: even of it IS your classroom it can still be quite dufficult with these fucking democratically programmed idiots in charge
asciilifeform: in related newz, i sometimes go to a 'dry cleaner' shop. their price, unchanged for a decade+, has gone up 50%. it was actually part of the chain's name, and they have to put garbage bags over the neon signs...
trinque: whereas the problem you describe is one of *you* not being in charge
asciilifeform: i wonder if any of them ever encountered phrase 'load shedding'
mircea_popescu: i gotta love idiots, srsly. if not me, then who.
mircea_popescu: "You can't solve a problem of lack of bandwidth by higher fees for access. A system that is too bandwidth limited to serve it's users isn't fixed by making the service more expensive."
mircea_popescu: noi wait 42. 42 is the right version to have.
mircea_popescu: make the block version be 81!
mircea_popescu: they should have a vote!
mircea_popescu: BitFury pool (~ 16% of hashrate) drops their max block size to 135 kB amidst large mempool backlog << check out all the gavin miner support.
asciilifeform: we still haven't recovered from their species having net connections
assbot: Logged on 08-07-2015 21:17:35; ascii_field: one telling mark of a tard is that he is unwilling to consider that market's job is not only to supply folks with things, but to REFUSE to supply them
trinque: the idea that a bunch of kids can overrule you is insane, aside from a fantasy
trinque: what I'm saying is if you were in power in the situation it wouldn't matter
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yes but these ridiculously reductionist tolerance ideas put into the heads of idiots just amounts to, as MP says something about in a blurb about professionalism on trilema, amateurs playing the racist card or what not... any number of limp-dicked excuses and diversions from what should be the teacher's right to maintain a fucking orderly environment
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 12:58:26; punkman: "I wish I had the money to setup enough miners myself to get 95% hashing power and just freaking fork already."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194820 << the reason he doesn't have the ~2 trillion required is EXACTLY that he would do this with it. and it's a stupid idea and it shouldt be done. in the general case, money works to limit the power of influencing the course of events people have, and gathers itself in the hands of those who ~SHOULD~ have most to say.
asciilifeform: mr b is probably closest thing southern europe has to a 'lizard'
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 09:58:31; punkman: "Berlusconi, 78, will not have to serve the sentence as the statute of limitations expires later this year, well before a final ruling will have been reached on appeal."
assbot: Logged on 09-07-2015 08:41:10; jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2015#1194359 so there should be plenty examples of usg diddling a traffic on the backbone, could you please post one?
mircea_popescu: he can not. for who is the employer
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: that reduces to "you should, as the teacher, be in charge of the fucking room."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: doubt it. he's switched 'discuses' a couplea times in the past few yrs, it looks like
ag3nt_zer0: meanwhile, any good student, mexican, white, asian, whatever, is completely fucked and her education is retarded even more than it would be normally, just by virtue of the PE system... but this shit makes it so much worse
mircea_popescu: and i bet you they told you all you needed to hear about gravity wells and whatnot.
asciilifeform: trinque: i've spent years trying to pull naggum, uncle al schwartz, et al out of the landfill
ag3nt_zer0: I mean maybe we aren't speaking of the same thing... here, in US, multiculti is synonymous with "tolerance" and "diversity" and cultural relativism.... which translates to, in many cases, classrooms full of unruly mexican children claiming racism if you say that 2+2=4
trinque: let it be known that I resent having had to search the landfill for this shit
asciilifeform: but there once was this notion.
mircea_popescu: it just means the us destroys everything it touches
mircea_popescu: just because they sell shit under imported names in the us doesn't mean the originals are bad
ag3nt_zer0: haha it isnt even just under the surface
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah I suppose... unless you have to sit through a multiculturalism focused education program in humboldt county run by marxism-hypnotized dykes... then noticing fruits of their labor in Silly Valley public ed... then start thinking warrior again
asciilifeform is ^ much of the time
mircea_popescu: sounds like you reached the age of cazalla
mircea_popescu: mike_c how you doin' these days
trinque: had 'nam vets and such talking about how they couldn't come back from war mentally because they liked war so much
trinque: I'm trying to recall the name
mircea_popescu: there is no conceivable reason the combined cultural pull of us should exceed that of greece. they're about the same toilet.
mircea_popescu: and generally, the world will be broadly a better place once the colonies get their voice turned down to the 1.6-2.2 they deserve.
ag3nt_zer0: I wasn't in the mood the first few times I started it, so I stopped... finally last night had the receptivity and it hit pretty good...
mircea_popescu: i'd have much rather had french internet than ustardian internet.
trinque: funkenstein_: docu has folks from kissinger's indonesian bloodletting reenacting and recounting their stories
mircea_popescu: "The government chose not to enact coercive measures, however, stating that the regulation of the online activities of children was up to parents, not the government. " << most important thing about minitel.
ag3nt_zer0: trinque: yeah, natural in a way... but the vibrant colors, the recreations, them watching the takes and commenting... the translations... fucking crazy
trinque: having them reenact the events was a little strange, but what I was struck with was the matter-of-fact attitude they had towards the events, mostly
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: no script... it's like nothing else I have seen - http://www.theactofkilling.com/
ag3nt_zer0: mircea_popescu: well, it's called The Act Of Killing and you should look at it
asciilifeform convinced, but it took many years of actually working through the maths
mircea_popescu: (that reason being, obviously, that they can't get to play their inept advertising with it)
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 vimeo never worked. for some reason html5 standards are too hard for these schmucks
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i am not even convinced yet. just, not particularly convinced of the contrapositive.
asciilifeform recalls the ordeal of convincing mircea_popescu that al schwartz isn't a 'timecube'
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/0ff0aff9dffec8a9a978794148cd219e/tumblr_mjw7i4bmlm1qfaf1fo1_1280.jpg
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 youtube stopped working for me with some update or other.
mircea_popescu: he should be here, i'm sick of being the most lines.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's a compulsive ant-stomper. went where the enviro-whiners congregate
mircea_popescu: i mean of all the places... no wonder it took forever to find him.
mircea_popescu: fucking discus. what the fuck is wrong with that guy.
decimation: I think the 3231 is end of life, probably trying to ditch stock
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah DS3231 is the older version of the same chip that doesn't have any onboard sram
asciilifeform: where do these little modules go? toasters? time bombs in afghan ?
asciilifeform: they are produced, and apparently sold, in vast quantities.
asciilifeform: what i wonder is where these are typically used.
asciilifeform: 'Anyway, it is my considered opinion (along with, I wager, most everyone else's) that positively the ONLY way that's getting show to be inconsistent is by some intoxicated kids during having sex or somesuch. Everything else was tried to death.' (from mircea_popescu's www) <<<< 'ftl drive will be discovered by an ee student on the verge of flunking, designing stero amps.' (al schwartz)
mircea_popescu visited one such thing, in costa rica. it is the closest i ever got to a medieval hospital.
mircea_popescu: ever seen the sexploitations in question ? women on cots, 500 to a hall, separated by hanging sheets ?
asciilifeform: them.
mircea_popescu: like they have in indonesia / poor asia generally and it fascinated tarantino
asciilifeform: (twist: rewrite orwell's '1984' where 'minilove' is actually a dour and heavily bureaucratized network of official brothels.)
asciilifeform: a maths prof informed me that until recently, it was customary to answer their letters. but not any more.
asciilifeform: and there are still legions of crackpots trying to prove ftl with what they studied in school.
asciilifeform: sometimes the 'construct future with past' thing gets taken up and run ragged, though. as in the case of 'square the circle with ruler and compass' problem that drove folks batshit until 19th c even.
mircea_popescu: it should be standard class in disinfo ministry, but hey. they're also saving these days.
mircea_popescu: a superlative form of hermeneutics if you wish. certainly decent training exercise for the more advanced students.