ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] danielpbarron: << handcrafted coffee now? << this actually is a thing. I've had it in CR. It looks say like : http://trilema.com/2011/chestii-pe-care-mi-le-doresc-dar-nu-le-voi-putea-gasi-niciodata/ << actually how all decent coffee is made
ben_vulpes: sounds melty
ben_vulpes: i was hoping for someone outside of the echo chamber.
ben_vulpes: !up Xuthus
ben_vulpes: who's that?
ben_vulpes: <mats> [] ive been here a while and i still can't get over the high class white pussy strolling the streets << take any home yet?
ben_vulpes: hola pumperos
ben_vulpes: man i gotta get better at telling stories.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes wait, this was a little girl ? << yeah
ben_vulpes: (mind you, the girl in question was herself running around nekkid)
ben_vulpes: a real, as mircea_popescu sez, lolwut moment
ben_vulpes: "THEY'RE KISSING!"
ben_vulpes: "EWWW!"
ben_vulpes: i was at the nude beach this summer. scads of folks of all ages and sizes parading around, lady v and i stretched out with wine and sammiches on a blanket somewhat away from the hubub. hundred feet or so down the beach i hear this little kid:
ben_vulpes: actually hilariously
ben_vulpes: gosh
ben_vulpes: NO FUCKING AT THE NUDE BEACH
ben_vulpes: the tail-buttplugs scheduled for saturday...meh
ben_vulpes: there's a schedule and everything
ben_vulpes: and messy post-hummer faces on monday
ben_vulpes: i'm looking forward to anal stretching tomorrow
ben_vulpes: but now mircea_popescu does it by hand and with more variety
ben_vulpes: a sad were we all
ben_vulpes: months
ben_vulpes: for like...
ben_vulpes: watch blocks coming in for transactions of relevance to your address, and then request them from btcd
ben_vulpes: undata: all you need to do is cook up raw transactions and sign them
ben_vulpes: maybe i should caveat with american "wood" floors
ben_vulpes: although wood floors and heels man
ben_vulpes: yeah fr srs
ben_vulpes: that's a demerit.
ben_vulpes: ain't nobody cooking on their knees, either.
ben_vulpes elbows undata
ben_vulpes: tell her to stick it deedbot
ben_vulpes: mright
ben_vulpes: it works better with close genetic matches
ben_vulpes: this would be a good story.
ben_vulpes: repeatedly too
ben_vulpes: TOTALLY GOING TO CLONE MYSELF, GUYS
ben_vulpes: so i can pump his blood through me
ben_vulpes: aw man now i gotta get my braindamaged clone to happen
ben_vulpes: “If two rats are not adjusted to each other, one will chew the head of the other until it is destroyed,” << yesssss
ben_vulpes: http://www.nature.com/news/ageing-research-blood-to-blood-1.16762 << okay now this is some cool science
ben_vulpes: that's pretty bad
ben_vulpes: blech
ben_vulpes: nOgAnOo: you're cloaking tardily.
ben_vulpes: not i.
ben_vulpes: minix, eh?
ben_vulpes: ;;tslb
ben_vulpes: one must get to the place one wants to be, though.
ben_vulpes: allergic to the outdoors or something?
ben_vulpes: man you are *lazy*
ben_vulpes: Kushed: you're flapping.
ben_vulpes: quick poll: stehpinklers or sitzpinklers?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> okay. it's a similar thing for women. a girl "thinks she migh have been raped". a woman is slightly bemused at your apparent expectation that taking her clothes off puts HER at a disadvantage. << huh.
ben_vulpes: hm.
ben_vulpes: myeah i can smell that.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> punkman: fake boyfriends that is << the trouble with an actual boyfriend is that he just might make you a woman << just what distinguishes women from girls?
ben_vulpes: excuses excuses
ben_vulpes: gearshift can be a fun toy
ben_vulpes: you and your car fetish
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.nijotz.1:2d059de0adbebaa481f0efb6ce77cf7ff0034a39cd7cc5f8051ee8d4f8654833
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/mercedes-benz/sl-190/1958/276479 << i still don't see why you need that boat when you could have something pretty looking and leggy
ben_vulpes: also not really a breakthrough until the text's been parsed, but whaddaya want from "science" these days.
ben_vulpes: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/01/150122114405.htm << probably just pornography, a la the logs for this place
ben_vulpes: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/01/22/thunderstruck_spaceplane/ << totally never doable in the states
ben_vulpes: keys are cheap
ben_vulpes: make a new one
ben_vulpes: paha
ben_vulpes: !rate nijotz 1 dis guy i know
ben_vulpes: oh no voice yet?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> no wallet at all. << precisely this.
ben_vulpes: you'll tar your good name in here
ben_vulpes: exploitation, objectification, the whole lot
ben_vulpes: nijotz: you know this place is full of women hate and racism right?
ben_vulpes: whoa nijotz dropped by?
ben_vulpes: http://40.media.tumblr.com/973de9a76c1d60f52173199e053d9e25/tumblr_ng3qs8sdhy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg me, i'm more of a city type. << glasses off, eyes down.
ben_vulpes: buenos dias mis pirómanos
ben_vulpes: now there's an interesting notion
ben_vulpes: i'm not entirely up to date on the thread, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2015/01/22/winklevoss-twins-aim-to-take-bitcoin-mainstream-with-a-regulated-exchange/
ben_vulpes: how'd i get almost 800 lines behind in one day!?
ben_vulpes: fucking sms.
ben_vulpes: no i get the history and the technology, asshats.
ben_vulpes: ...
ben_vulpes: thing
ben_vulpes: <davout> [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character
ben_vulpes: got tablets?
ben_vulpes: !up yhwh_
ben_vulpes: it's like one of those "so bad its good" things but it's more like "so pissed at computers i've now got ptsd and 'shall we over the trenches for fun tonight fellas?'"
ben_vulpes: but all caps glee
ben_vulpes: that's glee
ben_vulpes: that's not rage
ben_vulpes: "HTML? SUUURE! IMMA BILL YOU LIKE AN HOUR FOR THAT! ON CALL? SURE! THAT'S LIKE 3 HOURS EASY PEASY!
ben_vulpes: i'm cut all the way over to gleeful wanton murder today
ben_vulpes: <jurov> don't copy that stuff here then. can cause murderous rage for mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes and others << my murderous rage reservoir is depleted
ben_vulpes: "IN YOUR ENDO, HOOOOORES"
ben_vulpes: "popescu is coming! popescu is coming!"
ben_vulpes: i can just imagine them frolicking squealing naked through the woods
ben_vulpes: no i'm not waking up late
ben_vulpes: heyo terrists
ben_vulpes: davout: leave britney alone
ben_vulpes: http://www.bubblear.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/03plaza.jpg << the wide shot isn't even terrifically convincing.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: more or less that "there were peepul!"
ben_vulpes: cloudfuxxed
ben_vulpes: (bubblear known derps, but nevertheless)
ben_vulpes: http://bubblear.com/224-accusation-unrest-last-nights-nisman-protest/ << mircea_popescu, for contrast to your claims re nisman silence
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: ya duh if the defense is "DPR was more than one person" then the obvious next step is "well and of course we shooped the key around"
ben_vulpes: http://antilop.cc/sr/#trial << and yet nothing from today
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> [] lulz https://twitter.com/ErrataRob/status/558037792568410112 << and yet nothing on motherboard, despite twitter's "source" of Kari Paul, nominally a writer for the rag in question.
ben_vulpes: zing
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gavinandresen.-5:8e4060d0c134fa8feda50c5e3e897056c40b5142c493f8d4371e8bbaf386085d
ben_vulpes: !rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.
ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin several times and would like to continue.
ben_vulpes: ;;rate gavinandresen -5 has already broken bitcoin innumerable times and would like to continue.
ben_vulpes: their proprietary spreadsheet program will only save documents compatible with the version of itself that runs on 10.10
ben_vulpes: my time will come, i'm sure
ben_vulpes: i've yet to eat 10.10.
ben_vulpes: decimation, yeah, that's the one.
ben_vulpes: my next operating system dabblings are going to be in bsds and gentoo
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: not i, no.
ben_vulpes: basically purpose built for them
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: nah, it was great for the adobe suite
ben_vulpes: "just works" is dead. has been for like 3 revisions now, but the rest of the world is finally waking up to it.
ben_vulpes: stumpwm (a cl window manager) handles multiple monitors better than OS X.
ben_vulpes: want to hear something else lispily amusing?
ben_vulpes: not even kidding
ben_vulpes: because that's what he threatened to do!
ben_vulpes: i'm still waiting for robert viragh to call my mother and tell her i hang out with nasty people on the internets
ben_vulpes: oh, reddit discovered the fundation?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] i don't know anyone that seriously thinks they have a model on it << severely lacking in the whole conversation
ben_vulpes: tooling lust << no it's true
ben_vulpes: and emacs is not it
ben_vulpes: dood there must only be one canonical window manager
ben_vulpes: ?rate undata -2 fucked my .emacs
ben_vulpes: granted, 'twas my own fault for not unsnarling it more quickly.
ben_vulpes: undata recommended me an emacs config change that took *hours* to unsnarl
ben_vulpes: oh jesus i return
ben_vulpes: and body, while you're at it
ben_vulpes: feel bad about your toolchain
ben_vulpes: nudity!
ben_vulpes: SHAME
ben_vulpes: your IP is showing!
ben_vulpes: *gasp*
ben_vulpes: asking questions faster than his tiny brain and crippled fingers can keep up?
ben_vulpes: Naphex: distracting << lol. not pandering, do you mean?
ben_vulpes: sotting, yeah.
ben_vulpes: i can never remember this word.
ben_vulpes: honking?
ben_vulpes: dorking?
ben_vulpes: sporking?
ben_vulpes: pronking?
ben_vulpes: he has to show. has to "try to talk sense into -assets"
ben_vulpes: it's allll part of the act.
ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> thestringpuller: Well ESPN says they paid ESPN in BTC << i thought it was a promise to pay in btc, the paper for which ESPN liquidated immediately
ben_vulpes: p much
ben_vulpes: roasting gavinandresen
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: you missed all the fun
ben_vulpes: "why are your bangs off center"
ben_vulpes: lol well rubby haircuts are normally done by the hair wearer
ben_vulpes: davout: well i've written java, i've written ruby, and i've had extensive interactions with the relevant "communities" (although only my local java "community")
ben_vulpes: for people with silly hair
ben_vulpes: it's just java
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i also unload the dishwasher in the morning and turn the lights off at night.
ben_vulpes: <ben_vulpes> my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer" << asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: i derp through apple's code signing shitshow so that they can focus on writing moar softs
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: others write the softs
ben_vulpes: davout: oh yeah don't use the layout engine
ben_vulpes: kakobrekla: apples proprietary "integrated development environment" for "objective c"
ben_vulpes: my keys "have issues"? get fucked!
ben_vulpes: who wants to "fix issues" related to keys?
ben_vulpes: contains "fix issue" buttons
ben_vulpes: xcode "code signing" is hilariously opaque
ben_vulpes: my new title is going to be "systems and app store submission engineer"
ben_vulpes: i can't spot *every* scam
ben_vulpes: trying desperately to eke out food credits over here
ben_vulpes: i'm submitting builds to apple
ben_vulpes: fu davout
ben_vulpes: it's downright suspect that mircea_popescu goes to lunch and gavinandresen shows up
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen is clearly unfamiliar with the pricing model of every luxury good ever.
ben_vulpes: <gavinandresen> asciilifeform: I don’t want to rescue anybody, I want as many people as possible to Get the Bitcoin Religion! Can I have an AMEN? << good fucking god
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: what even is a sidechain?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's just a basic blood pressure/cortisol reduction measure
ben_vulpes: let him up the spamgun
ben_vulpes: grarrghragr
ben_vulpes: !down gavinandresen
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.gavinandresen.-5:1b1cb1a93eadfd534bec6d5cdc3328d057c6baa2e6e97b7bfa34e5157384cc73
ben_vulpes: !rate gavinandresen -5 broke bitcoin in too many ways to mention. inquire within.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: this is why you kept getting sucked into arguing with Robert Viragh over plainly stupid shit.
ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot gavinandresen
ben_vulpes: lobbes: tell him who said it, he's ignoring me.
ben_vulpes: !up gavinandresen
ben_vulpes: !up lobbes
ben_vulpes: again.
ben_vulpes: <gavinandresen> Pierre_Rochard: I believe the goal should be to maximize the value of Bitcoin for everybody << you're fired.
ben_vulpes: fucking drop it.
ben_vulpes: this is FUD, plain and simple.
ben_vulpes: eventually they mature and are prioritized.
ben_vulpes: and their transactions *don't* get tied up forever.
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: nobody who matters gives a shit about the marginal user.
ben_vulpes: give. up.
ben_vulpes: you never had any support in -assets
ben_vulpes: you've lost all support for these large blocks in -dev
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: you cannot construct this conversation on the foundation of fees. you cannot possibly know how fees will behave in steady state or in perpetually inflating block size state.
ben_vulpes: don't address any of the *only valid points* being made here.
ben_vulpes: ha yeah please
ben_vulpes: and you insist on "adding features" instead of fixing your mistakes.
ben_vulpes: the list goes on.
ben_vulpes: KV stores for a complex data set.
ben_vulpes: non deterministic transaction generation.
ben_vulpes: stale wallet backups that your asshats are responsible for.
ben_vulpes: want to talk about what's hampering adoption?
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: adoption is for the masses. i don't give a single fuck about the masses. bitcoin is not for them now, nor will it ever be.
ben_vulpes: that is to say, "god".
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: and we have the guns, coin and code on our side.
ben_vulpes: it's unnecessary and i reject it.
ben_vulpes: and our stake in the ground (0.5.3) is our indictment of everything that your people have done for the past umpteen months.
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: i'm pointing out that the only acceptable patch for wallets is total removal.
ben_vulpes: then you got hosed with the whole "change address" debacle.
ben_vulpes: and so, you had to track "relevant transactions" in the wallet.
ben_vulpes: the moronic quest to make the thing occupy as little space on disk as possible precluded you people from selecting a queryable db
ben_vulpes: in fact the entire wallet model is completely broken.
ben_vulpes: gavinandresen: the notion that the wallet code should be responsible for setting fees is utter braindamage.
ben_vulpes: we are not considering counterfactuals.
ben_vulpes: there is a 1mb limit.
ben_vulpes: this is a distraction and poor logic.
ben_vulpes: Pierre_Rochard: you assume some kind of "goal", and that there's a "we" with it.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [] nah, writing everything in c++ is dumb. << write it in every language, discover interesting bugs.
ben_vulpes: " state
ben_vulpes: yeah, and again we're at the "snapshot of a dynamic thing
ben_vulpes: let's at least hit the steady state behavior before starting to diddle with important economic variables like block size.
ben_vulpes: there is only bitcoin, and if one cannot afford the miners fees for inclusion in a block, one does not need to transfer bitcoins enough.
ben_vulpes: there is only bitcoin.
ben_vulpes: horseshit.
ben_vulpes: in any event, gavinandresen, there'll be no more forks from you. you blew it back in the day, and you lost the initiative on this one months ago.
ben_vulpes: obvious plant is obvious
ben_vulpes: !down felipelalli
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.felipelalli.-1:d220de3c0270b6e3f3f923fa6dbfd6daa164792bb1919eccdca66d6aedf87c4c
ben_vulpes: !rate felipelalli -1 snr penalty
ben_vulpes: !gettrust assbot felipelalli
ben_vulpes: no. not happening.
ben_vulpes: "oh look we're also talking about improving things over there so you may as well roll over on the megablocks issue"
ben_vulpes: the topic under discussion is the moronic megablock shit, not signature rules.
ben_vulpes: not wherever you people get together and wank about "innovation" in the blockchain
ben_vulpes: around *here*, gavinandresen.