mircea_popescu: im pretty sure there's a windows emulated in javascript somewhere.
mircea_popescu: there was this whole "we'll do things in javascript", it's what github lives as in my memory.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i read it, i read it. didn't surprise, either. "windows nt in javascript" or what was it.
BingoBoingo: <hanbot> re my cuntoo-in': i ran bootstrap.sh, got trinque's smileyface, but then "cp: cannot stat '../config/4.9.94-apu2': No such file or directory". i'm having moar surgery tomorrow, but i'll dig into this again friday. << Let me know if you need brought back online then. I can't imagine hippos work weekends, if their build is still going on by then.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun expect you'll want to eat the whole article, but it sums to quite a bag of lulz : can run entire proggy in the 'speculated' parallel universe, in such a way that it dun logically exist on e.g. by-the-book emulator, but only on post-2009 shitcpu
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 18:17 diana_coman: I have on my conveyor first to complete and publish the full set of data zcx vs sjlj; after that I guess I'll publish the notes re building ave1's gnat too
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 17:57 mod6: thanks asciilifeform; the one thing that changed, other than the hashes (from sha512->keccak) in the vpatches, is in the genesis.vpatch, I removed that UTF-8 character.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899500 << certainly the time to do such touch-ups.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899468 << the thing didn't work out, but principally owing to ustardian incompetence (they failed to pay protection money, because they think they're mussolini or some duim shit). little to do with your ideal of humanity, merely a practical application of the superiority of patriarchy.
mircea_popescu: purely cultural problem. how come "every mayo of fightin mass" ain't on the imaginary borders of the empire, fighting the republic ? cuz they fucking can't, lol. how would they, the republic integrates their ideological system.
a111: Logged on 2018-05-22 05:18 mircea_popescu: long story short, soviet kids integrated into youth culture faster than soviet state integrated "soviet world" ; the result was the failure of the soviet state.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:41 asciilifeform: e.g. how come erry man of fighting age in vz aint on the boarder, pumping lead into the 'humanitarian convoy', manning ack-ack batteries, etc ?
a111: Logged on 2019-02-27 00:39 asciilifeform: soon enuff , when no moar castros, those bananistani will be living in mortgaged cardboard, eating mcd, and watching 'netflix', shitting out 'blogs' fulla malapropisms , an' ~nobody will remember any other time.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899460 << there's an island, smaller than cuba, "civilised" before it. it's where the industrialized farms dump their (otherwise unsellable) mutton bellies, in preference of having them removed as garbage.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899452 << this'd be precisely why spawning's a waste of republican time. the daughter of random orcs from africa makes just as good a putative slavegirl, the son of random chinese provincial governors makes just as good putative meat for the noose as anything your missus could be bringing you home.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899446 << pretty sure there was a ONE mcd in havana, best-korea style.
hanbot: re my cuntoo-in': i ran bootstrap.sh, got trinque's smileyface, but then "cp: cannot stat '../config/4.9.94-apu2': No such file or directory". i'm having moar surgery tomorrow, but i'll dig into this again friday.
diana_coman: I have on my conveyor first to complete and publish the full set of data zcx vs sjlj; after that I guess I'll publish the notes re building ave1's gnat too
a111: Logged on 2019-02-16 09:44 ave1: diana_coman, in system-linux-*.ads (in gcc/ada directory) you'll find the line: ZCX_By_Default : constant Boolean := False;
diana_coman: the missing bit re compiling ave1's gnat with sjlj was found by ave1 : http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897189
asciilifeform: right, then.
asciilifeform: ( i.e. was prior to the thread where diana_coman rebuilt ave1's )
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
mod6: thanks asciilifeform; the one thing that changed, other than the hashes (from sha512->keccak) in the vpatches, is in the genesis.vpatch, I removed that UTF-8 character.
asciilifeform: shinohai: not yet. it's on the conveyor tho.
shinohai: asciilifeform: didja get chance to do regrind steps on trb? I would of course *like* to have your sigs there, since you wrote a bunch of old patches.
asciilifeform: wb shinohai . what've you been up to these days ?
asciilifeform: btw if anyone here happens to come across 1 of these lolboxes, feel free to send to asciilifeform for xray ( if you want it back, will cost return postage )
asciilifeform no longer specifically stampcollects these, but occasionally turns up by chance
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in yet-another-faux-FG : https://www.quintessencelabs.com/products/qstream-quantum-true-random-number-generator/
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/the-working-philosopher-and-the-what-if-philosopher/ << Trilema -- The working philosopher and the what-if philosopher
deedbot: spyked rated diana_coman 4 << eulora, ada and others; showed me around .ro.petroltown
spyked: ^ re de-header-ization: it's currently in the works, I'll shoot out another update once the new .tar.xz is ready.
lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 9 hours and 54 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> that gutenberg tarball -- didja get a chance to auto-kill all of the header liquishit ? i'd prefer to mirror a flensed copy, the 50kB of 'this text copyright wikitards(tm)(r)' is eyesore
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-27#1899477 <-- ty, asciilifeform! I'll update the post with a link to your mirror later today
hanbot: <BingoBoingo> hanbot: There's a team with one profoundly fat person working deep in the hot aisle putting filling up a rack. The hamplanet's moving about makes keeping a terminal plugged into the machine a precarious proposition. Will dive again later. << lol ty for the perseverance in the face (crack?) of doom BingoBoingo
asciilifeform: was 'textbook case' of 'miami of the central nervous system'
asciilifeform: but from what clues BingoBoingo dug up prev, the vz folx have already 'let miami into their hearts'
asciilifeform: or why, for that matter, not stormed pantsuit 'parliament' and dragged guiado out by the heels to the public stake ?
asciilifeform: *the border
asciilifeform: e.g. how come erry man of fighting age in vz aint on the boarder, pumping lead into the 'humanitarian convoy', manning ack-ack batteries, etc ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: as i understand, maduro is on the chopping block; and i dun think these are unrelated
asciilifeform: soon enuff , when no moar castros, those bananistani will be living in mortgaged cardboard, eating mcd, and watching 'netflix', shitting out 'blogs' fulla malapropisms , an' ~nobody will remember any other time.
asciilifeform: i have nfi how anyone can escape the conclusion that 'western civilization' of the past-50y model is in any way diff in effect than eating pb paint chips.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-13 02:20 mircea_popescu: it was utterly the case of eg ro revolution. none of the people there wanted "freedom". they were literally pissed off they can't drive over to austrian border and load up the car at the w/e discount shop.
asciilifeform: when 'civilization' swallows island, they'll be watchin' 'netflix' like mircea_popescu's argentines.
asciilifeform: right nao in cuba, there's this wonder, orcs who machine toyota gearboxes to fit in 'lada', etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-16 20:09 asciilifeform: which is why north kr was priceless treasure -- the ONLY remaining experiment with industry sans konsoomer-spending-britneyizes-all
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform Well hard to tell if they are opening to McDonalds or simply moving to converge with Uruguay's Fat Forehead party
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho pretty sad , actually : the (afaik) last 100% mcd-free reservation on hemisphere, totters.
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell spyked that gutenberg tarball -- didja get a chance to auto-kill all of the header liquishit ? i'd prefer to mirror a flensed copy, the 50kB of 'this text copyright wikitards(tm)(r)' is eyesore
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: In other stuff, apparently Pat Buchanan is still alive and kicking http://archive.is/YjzYT
BingoBoingo: His side of whatever he's contributing to their build is in the hot aisle. But he's ~350 pounds, so he can only stand to be in the hot aisle ~90 seconds at a time. That's a lot of purposeless movement I would rather not deal with when the hippo workday has to end sometime.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Roughly the size. It blocks setting up the keyboard and monitor for an extended period of time without the risk of his ass propelling the setup into the rack because he imagines he can move like a dainty princess.
BingoBoingo: hanbot: There's a team with one profoundly fat person working deep in the hot aisle putting filling up a rack. The hamplanet's moving about makes keeping a terminal plugged into the machine a precarious proposition. Will dive again later.
feedbot: http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/085-gutenberg-iii.html << The Tar Pit -- Project Gutenberg ASCII text archive
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714. - Part III.
feedbot: http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2019/02/a-bridge-to-cuntoo-for-the-lenovo-x61-x86_64/ << lobbesblog -- A bridge to Cuntoo: for the Lenovo x61 (x86_64)
mircea_popescu: "While much of the data affected is public profile information, it includes usernames, emails, hashed passwords and the salt (allowing the hashed passwords to be reversed). We care deeply about our users security and are taking numerous steps to prevent this from happening again and to protect against the misuse of information."
mircea_popescu: once there, well...
mircea_popescu: until then, it's gonna be piddly.
mircea_popescu: so what you want to do, is exactly the "everyone is doing this", hence systematization.
mircea_popescu: the second only works worth half a shit when it's "in order to stay out of jail". and even then very dubious.
mircea_popescu: there's exactly two arguments who can work on typical moron. the first is, "everyone is doing this" ; the second is "you must this in order to that".
asciilifeform: entirely troo. and in light of this, just about miraculous that any of the konsoomer shit can even be repurposed for actual work, at this pt
mircea_popescu: well this yes, but nothing is different from this. the chronic masturbators making up white esltardland don't suddenly become serious about some selection of topics, or even one topic.
mircea_popescu: out of the people going to see some blockbuster, 33% are there because they're mouthdrooling retards, 66% are there because they're with their friends, and <1% are there to see the movie.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this sector is not substantial, is the point im making.
asciilifeform: there's still a substantial 'hand-sewn' sector, where counts.
mircea_popescu: you have the top inch and the bottom foot, and in between miles upon miles of NOTHING
mircea_popescu: there's ~nothing in between~. there's no pyramid, one inch wide the first inch, three inches wide the third inch, and a hundred inches wide the hundredht inch
mircea_popescu: ad asked open-ended questions like "how can I trust you?" and "how do I know this is for real?"--these were future investors. They were asking me to persuade them. They wanted to believe."
mircea_popescu: , I always knew whether or not they would invest. Those who would not become investors always made specific requests for information, requiring several referrals of non-alts who had been playing the game for a few years. Obviously I could not provide this without giving the names of other investors. Since my business' website guaranteed anonymity, this was not practical. But those who did not make specific requests, and inste
mircea_popescu: consider this item i recently fell upon by accident : "And so the scam rolled on through April and into May. I gathered around fifty active investors, and scammed about a billion non-Morty investments. I was repeatedly pulled into convos, usually lasting only a short time as they asked a few questions. Within the first few lines of communication
mircea_popescu: that old http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain/ discussion is not an idle consideration. this is the fundamental structure of everything, from baltimore gangland, where the police shoots the 20-gun tribes to make room for a dozen 2-gun tribes, to whatever you pick, "Merchandise scores in the theme park stores" and Disney is the king of the hill.
a111: Logged on 2018-07-06 18:46 mircea_popescu: (ro used the prefab construction process -- first, send mining equipment, flatten land ; then, put in rail ; then, roll out a rail crane, and roll prefab on cars up to it ; then move the derivation
mircea_popescu: globalisation is another way to say "systematization". whether it's systematized delusion or systematized http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-06#1832377 nevertheless the middle is thoroughly pruned in all contemporaneous groups.
asciilifeform: pretty sure that most elcaps ever baked, went into tv. but can see the pt.
mircea_popescu: certainly. nor do electrolytic caps specifically require the pc.
mircea_popescu: how's tricks these days, danielpbarron
mircea_popescu: that's the limit -- the sum total of folks alive capable of going through one of these bootstrappings is ~5.
mircea_popescu: the star of the http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=55 vivisections still runs to spec << market communication still pretty fucking terrible.
mircea_popescu: things reinforce themselves, you have fg AND pizarro AND AND AND.
asciilifeform: as it is, if yer launching yours into orbit, i recc pb foil over the cpld.
asciilifeform: if it were possible to source an antifuse fpga for the http://btcbase.org/patches/fg-genesis/tree/fg.v , thing would be trooly indestructible short of incinerator or train running over it
asciilifeform: ( caps -- strictly ceramic , with tantalum for the larger filter )
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: you ( & customers... ) may find it interesting, that even tho fg was not specifically built for radiation-hardness, the star of the http://www.loper-os.org/?cat=55 vivisections still runs to spec
asciilifeform: possibly only that many folx alive who give a serious shit re crypto. possibly i made it the wrong shade of red, fuck if i know.
asciilifeform: ( and possibly even the lightest, in re count of moving parts.. )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if asciilifeform weren't sitting under a pile of unfinisheds -- then conceivably yes
mircea_popescu: haha, so then, scheme in iron, in 2 weeks ?
asciilifeform: in vehehery other noose, asciilifeform accidentally, in the course of unrelated worx, dug up the long-sought pill for the http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-19#1586264 item.
asciilifeform: the lulztwist is that here you cannot get the tall ceiling of that коммуналка even with 5 mircea_popescu-s worth of moola
mircea_popescu: we're substantially different things, i'm something, the poveraccio's not a thing.
mircea_popescu: i mean you're not them, substantially. if i shoot some schmuck they ask me "what i was thinking", if some schmuck shoots another they just dump him in the hole.
asciilifeform: baked out of 19th c. actual-people flat, as they came
mircea_popescu: they're incomprehensible and uninteresting to "patriarchy" aka the lordship principally because they're epiphenomena of poverty in a manner unexperienced.
asciilifeform: the interesting, imho, detail, is that i went and found what they pay. if you add up the rent of the 4 коммуналка derps occupying any of these, you get ~2x what asciilifeform pays for same sq. m.
mircea_popescu: one can't really understand "gender identity" or whatever, faggot-bla-bla without actually comprehending the demographics.
mircea_popescu: trend's been ongoing since at least the 70s, once the yellow flower of alabamy decided her only future's to go to new york to be a writer.
mircea_popescu: the girls that don't, remarkably, are even odds lost in smalltown idaho or other such nowherezeone horrors.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: these -- yes the 'fyootoor', in last decade they tore down good % of the town around here and built honest sovok-style communal-by-design flats
a111: Logged on 2019-02-19 04:42 BingoBoingo: Also tonight I saw the good bum mentioned http://bingology.net/2018/12/24/preparations-for-the-second-navidad-in-uruguay/#footnote_1_2160
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the infestations are a by-scene thing. the art scene's not particularly lice-y. some music scenes are ; the sex scene may be, depending on the house mother. on it goes.
mircea_popescu: nah. artsy chicks are anxiously clean, these days.
mircea_popescu: more valuables there than in a whole suburbia's worth of soccer moms.
mircea_popescu: actually, this happens regularly. witness the "art studio" / squat that burned a few years ago.
mircea_popescu: if you define "living is exsting + jew" then yeah, i expect you won't find "living without jew".
BingoBoingo: ^ Here too, they get regularized and even then usually only when pasta base is involved
mircea_popescu: it's not even legal to take down ~illegal electricity connections~ they made, half the time.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo what difference does it make ? if you're rich, get 6x4x2 or w/e, not like you can't specify arrangement. might delay you a day. whopee. << Well trying to figure out if the Port or Puertito is a more appropriate place arrive.
mircea_popescu: more a thing in german-yurp than us, but a major thing nevertheless, on both coasts and in plenty of midwest pockets.
asciilifeform: on the coasts, diff story. you can get away with dealing dope by megatonne, in bmore, but just try live in container.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-24 06:42 mircea_popescu: witness how instagram is chock full of a bunch of pretentious pictures of foods/travels/whatever that the putative "authors" ~aspire~ to.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there's a massive 'artistic' sculpture consisting of coupla dozen containers somewhere on the road to washington from here. they're plentiful, and folx in 'flyover' usa do sometimes live in'em ( see endless 'how i poured cement' http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-24#1899021 -derpery on 'youtube' etc. )
mircea_popescu: now THIS is the sort of [interfaced] cvasi-boat alf could readily live on -- if everyone else also did.
BingoBoingo: Well, how many containers does the alf lab need?
asciilifeform: that'd rock, actually. the 1 annoying detail is that even at current fare ( what, 2k orcbux? from ny to marseilles ) the folx who can afford fare, dun care to live in container
mircea_popescu: imagine, neighbourhood of the future, == port of the future. you sign the slip to where you wanna live next, they take you there.
BingoBoingo: I recall mircea_popescu had a story about folks trying to build stone house in the US
asciilifeform: not limited to 'ugly' ersatz housing, either. recall the mircea_popescu thread about some ro fella who thought he could get away with building a stone euro-style house in urban usa, where the locals could see it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well, local control issue mostly. Universal building codes get adopted and at the local level derps enforce Stick Frames because the presence of deviant construction drops the relative value of the established derp's stick constructions.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in usa would be moar common if were not artificially suppressed ( it is legal to be a hobo , but not to live in shipping container or anyffin else not Officially mortgaged via the lizards )
BingoBoingo: The more "affordable" option emerging are furnished, shipping containers. These however are a rural and outter barrio thing.
BingoBoingo: The locals like fire. Estufas de leña for winter and parrillas for asado. Lots are too narrow to not have disaster during the matchsticking.
asciilifeform: usa seems intent on replaying the career of the illustrative-idiot character in erry single trad folk tale. even 'the 3 pigs'.
asciilifeform: i dun even know presently what prevents it. possibly if the fast-growing pine thing usa uses, grew in south a, argentina + uy et al would already look like matchstick washington.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: your orcs , not yet invented the pretense. mix cement, pour, done.
BingoBoingo: Even Uruguayo socialist housing compared to the US... Seeing these how these 10-12 story towers go up is a trip.
asciilifeform: quite hilarious re 'houses' -- the other day there was a little gust of wind, certainly nuffin rising to the level of 'hurricane'. and then i go for a drive, and errywhere pieces of 'house' came off
asciilifeform found, by chance, a living descendant of the manor people. old woman, 9000 cats...
asciilifeform: ( manor -- pretty interesting in own light. literally entire town, incl. the university grounds, usedta be part of it pre-dekulakization. yet most of the folx living there nao, dun even know that the manor house exists. inside, threadbare museum, open 1ce a week or sumthing, souvenir shop. )
asciilifeform: there's an old slaveholder manor not far from asciilifeform . it is quite threadbare if you were to stand it next to the habsburg dwellings
asciilifeform: even those, tend to be rather spartan per europistani standards
asciilifeform: picture-perfect 'just how much shit WILL they eat if never knew different' setup
mircea_popescu: there's of course ye olde brownstone tenements
mircea_popescu: femstate lulz, the termites could prolly chew the trunks making up one original log cabin and spit out paper cells for a whole neighbourhood of contemporary drones.
BingoBoingo: The failure to transition from temporary log cabins and clapboard to cob or ferrocement is yet another weird Anglo colonial quirk.
mircea_popescu: why would it! it priviledges the wrong criteria over considerations "much more important to us".
BingoBoingo: Not like the US is going to rediscover "cob" construction.
mircea_popescu: in practice, women make do, and the femstate as organized womanhood (whether you like it or not) will... well... see, it gets something in exchange for permanent defeat. it's indefeatable in its own terms now!!!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh, it's self-limiting, if enough houses burn down it'll just be the new fashion. "this is how things ARE now" worked ok for new york in its slow descent to africa, what's to keep them.
asciilifeform: ( there's a reason why in old japan arsonists were invariably burned at the stake, i.e. same as for high treason )
mircea_popescu: "no, there's absolute truth, and absolute value of symbols. no means no ~objectively~" "since when ?"
asciilifeform: incidentally 'burned own house' is somewhat misleading , in we-build-from-matchsticks usa there is good chances of incinerating whole street
mircea_popescu: "there's nothing to realise, no means no" "to whom ?"
mircea_popescu: yet the very obvious "female accidentally displays agency, ends up in http://trilema.com/2015/gender-politics-and-the-war-on-will/ conundrum" is pretty lulzy. what is wrong, to be an activist or to set your house on fire ?
asciilifeform: pretty great. gotta wonder if these folx realize on some level that they're pouring the foundations for the eventual crematoria. ( or will be 'surprised', like the prev set )
BingoBoingo: Anyways, to be clear the arsonist fusser is XX chromosoned, presumably taking male steriod hormones for years if not decades.
mircea_popescu: somewhat parallel to the very threatened reaction of girlies in a group of girlies, when i bid one come over. "if she goes to the slaugther when called to the slaughter, who's to say i wouldnt?!?"
asciilifeform: 'Meanwhile donations rolled in for Joly and Moore. The church hoped to raise $10,000 but quickly sped past that amount. By the time St. Johns and other groups were done they had collected $58,000, they said. In a Facebook post two days after the fire, Joly exhorted supporters not to respond to the blaze by threatening violence. “Yes, be angry, be very angry,” he wrote. “Use that anger to force good! Use that anger to make chang
mircea_popescu: they're pretty lulzy to watch, lost in their lala-land of "good that's done" and whatnot.
asciilifeform: 'As gay rights supporters try to reconcile Joly the crusader with Joly the alleged arsonist, they worry the arrest could be used to reverse all the good he has done' << lol!
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/02/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-ii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714. - Part II.
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/another-week-another-us-hate-hoax-as-lgtbbq-activist-torches-own-house-killing-pets/ << Qntra -- Another Week, Another US Hate Hoax As LGTBBQ Activist Torches Own House Killing Pets
BingoBoingo: Less pressing as the headcase contents get flushed and refreshed with the re-reading, but it's a thing on the issues chart
mircea_popescu: debt is the only post-imperialist given.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I carry some technical debt, but as I've been learning since last year there's a lot of pressing cultural debt.
mircea_popescu: that's kinda the problem with reading. the actual driver of length-ening is precisely this, one could produce shorter articles, but it's a time-to-read/space-to-write tradeoff.
BingoBoingo: Some trilemas I read quickly in 2013-2019 today take substantially more time to read as I correct and rebuild the working set in the headcase. Then again 2013-2017 I was mistakenly filtering for Bitcoin. But that filtering doesn't work.
mircea_popescu: there's no guarantee "writing an article" is a procedure that returns, in principle. maybe it ends that way.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: reading'em is pretty fast, in asciilifeform's experience, if you have the 'working set' loaded into brain
mircea_popescu: it does seem though that the "article is ~500 words" thing that stood true for a decade or so meanwhile morphed into an "article is ~2k words" thing. i hope it stops, this process, before expanding past the point where not even i can be bothered to read one.
deedbot: diana_coman updated rating of spyked from 2 to 3 << met irl; writes at http://thetarpit.org/
mircea_popescu: somehow february counted as two months for the blog, nfi.
diana_coman kept up with the logs but not with trilema.com
asciilifeform: ( funnily enuff, not ram -- they lost ram market to samsung and it aint coming back )
mircea_popescu: make a computer look like an aluminum can, one spikey end with the cpu and radiator, one flat end to sit it on.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it ~is~, in their bleeding-edge luser pc product. just not anyffing you'd buy. e.g. https://archive.is/Kqh7F
mircea_popescu: i honestly don't understand why latest pc even has pcb in at all. all the shit could be on-die anyway.
mircea_popescu: why don't they, technological incapacity ?
asciilifeform: ftr there is a (theoretical) 'innocent' explanation for 'nuffin socketed' -- at current-day freqs, sockets actually cost comparably with the chip
asciilifeform: so far i only found that 1 chinese box, costing its weight in silver, etc. but this does not disprove mircea_popescu's hypothesis.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform possibly tenuously, hence the lulz.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> check out what changed in 4 years alfie, back in 2015 we had to ~go there~. now they sit around reading the log on their own dime, to "preemptively" etc. << very true
asciilifeform: ( not simply arm, either, but ~anyffin~ non-x86 )
asciilifeform still curious how they maintain the http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-16#1897140 lulzstatusquo
asciilifeform doesn't even ~like~ arm much, but it remains the case that it's the 1 green leaf in the garbage disposal of non-x86 atm
mircea_popescu: whatever. there's better shows in town, anyway.
mircea_popescu: check out what changed in 4 years alfie, back in 2015 we had to ~go there~. now they sit around reading the log on their own dime, to "preemptively" etc.
mircea_popescu: aww. is this http://trilema.com/2015/on-how-the-factored-4096-rsa-keys-story-was-handled-and-what-it-means-to-you/ all over again ?
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in 'the new linus torvalds' lulz: https://archive.is/C6AFq >> 'The price advantage of ARM will never be there for ARM servers unless you get enough volume to make up for the absolutely huge advantage in server volume that Intel has right now ... no real advantage to ARM ... basic economics ... this is why the PC took over, and why everything else died ... you're going to be a tiny minority ... x86 won'
mircea_popescu: ally rotten in most applications you're likely to encounter. as it stands, between the "mechanical birdwing" that never could possibly take off and the early aeroplane that generally crashes and burns, you're stuck picking the latter.
mircea_popescu: "analytical philosophy", as the currently preferred endonym for "typical anglo provincialism", ie the attempt at naive extension of "common sense" and broadly dysfunctional medieval solipsisms is methodologically sound, but unfortunately fundamentally rotten, and in the most laughable ways at that. "postmodernism", as the anglotard xenonym for, mostly, post-structuralism, is fundamentally sound, but unfortunately methodologic
BingoBoingo: Congrats on the good news lobbes
lobbes: However, I'm pleased to say I now have a bootable (and, this time, login-able!) cuntoo on my usb stick. I'll aim to get a post with all the details out this week
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 19:16 lobbes: Luckily, this time around I have a 40MB screenlog to parse through. Will return once I have a more substantive understanding of where exactly the failure points are when trying to build my kernel config
mircea_popescu: the weakest computer geek of 1989 is still a gravel chewing, piss&vinegar machine compared to the toughest "hoodlum" of 2019.
mircea_popescu: even those. dorks have aspirations, they don't intend to waste their only shot at life. it's gotta be used well, they aim to die doing what they themselves deem worthy, etcetera.
mircea_popescu: guards go home with accidental cum in their hair daily.
mircea_popescu: kinda how this works, all the self-loathing weirdos end up in "jail".
BingoBoingo: That they don't actually have and can't have any franchise is obvious.
mircea_popescu: I can see that you are not a very good Dom/Master. You are abusive and hide behind that title as an excuse. You are not attractive, you have a terrible personality, and you don't deserve subs. I hope they can work up the courage to leave your abusive ass."
BingoBoingo: Just... how much these papers suck. Why would anyone who isn't a self hating pervert sign any agreement structured this way?
mircea_popescu: how does one distinguish the usg from this fat ugly but stupid older woman strutting about as if she's gonna decide how the money's spent ?
mircea_popescu: the lulzy "you're paying for our incarceration circus" thing is ever spreading, i see.
mircea_popescu: i don't understand how the rfuck it stands.
asciilifeform: aha. iirc they had to replace the orig hollow titanium sword with solid steel one, old one bent
mircea_popescu: problem with modern monumental construction, fucking impossible to be elegant in concrete, it's the definitive substance of "american gothic", two square tubs and stolid flowers behind or somesuch is all it does.
mircea_popescu: i recall some lulz about cutting the sword because taller than whatever lavra
asciilifeform: quite symbolically of fall of su, incidentally, word is that the thing's become a 'leaning tower' and likely to splat soon.
asciilifeform: under it , marshall chuikov & other folx who helped to fill the hill with dead jerries, buried.
asciilifeform: sword per se big enuff to sway in the wind.
asciilifeform: ^ in bg, the chix with sword, 85 metres, biggest colossus in world when built (60s)
asciilifeform: it's not clear to me that the congenital defects are fixable ( hence the various 'trbi' threads etc )
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's large in the clinical sense, it's possibly the ~best prospect surgery~ known, other than apendectomy.
asciilifeform: rright. but must observe, that folx who dun grasp http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-12#1823933 , ~will~ build a gnu. regardless of what they're nominally attempting to build.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the point isn't the tool, the point is that you don't have to build a fucking gnu.
asciilifeform: even nao imho thing is a mockery of the orig. 'p2p' premise
mircea_popescu: five thousand generals and a shortage of generalling you couldn't believe, it's like the island with >9k fishermen which last saw a fish painted on a tuna can.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so ? no shortage of names in the lengthy annals of anglocomputing.
mircea_popescu: which is the whole "movement"'s http://www.loper-os.org/?p=165#selection-311.0-316.0 moment : no cypherphunks, no "free/open source", no "computer science", no "community", NOBODY has the excuse that "oh it couldn't have been made to work" anymore.
asciilifeform: i'm not even convinced that bitcoin would still work if not for the coupla times mircea_popescu applied the defibrillator
asciilifeform: the pov where 'esr quisling, and if not for him, linux would work' is imho simplistic -- there were 9000 quislings, and maybe dozen frustrated honest folx . what could that possibly have added up to.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-23 19:03 mircea_popescu: "Poking at making an open source version of the Cisco toolchain again, from publicly available sources. (No, Cisco isn't paying me to do this, most of those engineers are off for the holidays and not even answering their work email. I'm doing it because I'm disgusted with the FSF and would love to undermine Mepis II any way I can.)" << nuts.
asciilifeform: even without any poetterings -- the gnutards just about make republican spain look like unified front in comparison ( e.g. what to make of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-23#1898976 ?! )
asciilifeform: d00d drank the 'inclusivity' rotgut, and ended up 'including' poettering + 9000 lesser poetterings et al
mircea_popescu: "Life's hard and the path obscure, but you'll figure it all out..."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found it interesting also, the various linux breakages he describes, i walked through in real time ( 'suspend mode dunwork on any lappy, who do i have to kill' etc 2007-present )
mircea_popescu: it's always a fascinating question, this, "srsly, you lot ended up making the bolshevik party ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: that particular dood was (mildly) interesting to me because he was one of the technically apt people who ended up making ubuntu.
asciilifeform: sorta why i ended up turning the squelch knob slightly down, and nao one can see rubbish grain photos etc. on asciilifeform's www.