assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 15:07:09; shinohai: asciilifeform: what, exactly, constitutes an industrial-sized therealbitcoin node?
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 15:01:30; mircea_popescu: <gribble> Sent 57 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> dulap desperately needs to not be the only industrial-sized therealbitcoin node. phuctor is severely i/o starved << so help hanbot get it going.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219316 << hanbot, what are the remaining issues?
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 13:32:51; kakobrekla: I think it is wrong to ban a person just because they hold different beliefs. < this doesnt make much sense , but > I think it is wrong to ban a person just because are sick. < does.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219234 << yet sick is strictly the most common, oldest and widestly still used reason to ban someone.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 12:56:17; shinohai: If there *is* a God jurov, I'd like to think he chooses you, instead of vice-versa. I know all the "free will" speeches.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219177 << the conflict there's purely rhetoric. in the much more comprehensible slave-master dynamic, it's still teh master that chooses the slavegirl. the perceived challenges to free choice this brings are purely imagined by the perceiver.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 12:49:57; kakobrekla: nah, the correct observation would be that religion is a virus and religious people ill.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219170 << culture, generally. observation as ancient as the original cro-magnon / neanderthal divide. N the Ist famously made it, and look where it got him!
mircea_popescu: actually this may well be how to know you live at the dawn of a civilisation. shit doesn't work and you imagine this to be an exceptional, remarkable, worrisome thing.
mircea_popescu adds "cult doesn't work" to the ever-lengthy-er list with "linux doesn't work and gcc doesn't compile" on it.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck cult is this with such diversity.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219161 << there's no wai out with you people is there.
mircea_popescu: looking forward to all the reddit threadsa going "thank you mp for bashing hearn's head right before hearn managed that one".
mircea_popescu: they're going through the good dev bad dev routine on reddit, somehow none of them seem to remember where the actual ammo is stored.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 03:53:10; asciilifeform: coderwill: on top of the thousand and one other sins, tor linked in ssl at the height of 'heartbleed' - something which pretty much nobody is speaking of today
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219051 << amusingly, mike hearn's attempt to do the exact same for bitcoin at the exact same time ALSO seems to be a secret only we know.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 03:31:00; asciilifeform: the total war against honest history is a specifically 20th c. thing (if we discount chinese and egyptian monarchs who were deeply into rewriting the books)
mircea_popescu: there's plenty of gyroscopes much cheaper, faster and broadly speaking better than "reinterpret history"
mircea_popescu: the main problem with this syllogism is, perhaps counterintuitively, its tail.
mircea_popescu: way i read this sort of stuff from you is like so : "stoicism is important for one's balance" ; "the stoic position is 'heroes hang when traitors triumph'" ergo "i will look through time and retroactively call traitors those who succeed and heros those who fail, irrespective of how derps generally fail and competent people are rarely unimpeachable, because i really have no other ways and means to maintain balance so i'
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219025 << you're going the wrong way in time.
mircea_popescu: "The aim of this mail is to let you know that, according to default, your bank account has been put on credit hold status, and will remain so until your balance will be completely liquidated. Your attention to this matter is sorely encouraged."
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mircea_popescu: problem is that the last people who could think retired in the late 80s, and the leftover idiots will not yield until trampled. so they'll get trampled, short detour, we move on to hating ru and cn in 2030.
mircea_popescu: they'd prolly fade off the hate radar and we could all move on to hate putin and the chinese hydra like god meant it.
mircea_popescu: if it came to terms with the fact that they're in charge of a population of shitheads in a poorly developed country barely hanging on to the first world, with decaying infrastructure they can't upkeep etc,
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1219013 << the usg has a problem with its millenarist, one-world approach, which is stepping on everyone's toes.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 03:17:35; decimation: either he was a brilliant ru spy, or he was a self-appointed reddit internet policeman
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 03:06:06; coderwill: Ah, thanks for the background - that's really interesting. I myself am thinking about a new project, and was wondering if in this day and age it is a disadvantage to attach a real-life identify to the Internet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1218982 << i don't generally think much of the derponymous. others don't care.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 02:37:25; BingoBoingo: Well, they will probably keep humans at the cash register to provide a surface for customers to direct anger at.
mircea_popescu: (on paper they should get the major benefit of blame deflection, but in practice it dun work, everyone bames washington anyway)
mircea_popescu: by now usg painted itself in the very sad corner where it has to provide housing for free and does the whole ration meal thing via mcd. all the drawbacks of centrally planned, scarcely any of the benefits.
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 02:33:54; BingoBoingo: So long as McDonalds has few corporate stores they have to staff and having staff at all is largely a franchisee problem McDonalds will automate for consistency (i.e. robogrill) instead of doing so to purely reduce labor.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1218967 << this is a good point. labour costs are not a problem per se - they're set as policy lever (and more effectiuve at controlling wage strucure in the us than any sort of law)
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 01:22:26; asciilifeform: i.e. if you built it and it ended up sitting down in /home/luser/a/b/d/e/f/g/p/q/r/s, it will stay there. or rebuild WHOLE THING again.
mircea_popescu: dude how the fuck does this braindamaged fucktarded generation work, already.
mircea_popescu: "Although Wikileaks first publicized the emails in 2012, they did not release all of them until two years later." << lmao wut, rly ?!
mircea_popescu: some Luke-Jr somewhere swore he "was delivered" and the fishwrappers echoed the unverified, unsubstantial claim is all.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-07-2015#1218908 << atm i doubt they actually exist
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218839 << it's funny how this shit works. "malleability" might be responsible. us agents might be responsible. santa claus might be responsible. not the fat fuck and his various friends throughout the redditard community.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218827 << i find it's a pretty good heuristic, this. plaintext html ? guy's doing ok. bootstrap ? retarded kids couldn't find their way to etsy.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 22:05:10; shinohai: I think I read somewhere that failed "social currency" reddcoin 's lead developer quit, after squandering all their IPCO funds, and now they are going to attempt round two.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218822 << and why shouldn't they. as long as there's idiots with excess fat...
shinohai: asciilifeform: what, exactly, constitutes an industrial-sized therealbitcoin node?
mircea_popescu: <gribble> Sent 57 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> dulap desperately needs to not be the only industrial-sized therealbitcoin node. phuctor is severely i/o starved << so help hanbot get it going.
decimation: asciilifeform: http://wtop.com/dc/2015/07/streets-closed-as-police-investigate-vehicle-crash-into-capitol-barricade/ < dc lulz for the day
asciilifeform: i think he'd rather move the packets with pencil and paper than so much as look at a 'cisco'
asciilifeform: but if, like or not, you transport a herd of elephants every friday, buying the 'boeing' may be a logical choice
asciilifeform: i expect him to answer that he didn't buy it for the same reason he won't buy a 'boeing'.
decimation: yes, it seems his requirements are well within the capabilities of pedestrian switches/routers
asciilifeform: re: yesterday's thread, i'm frankly surprised that mircea_popescu ~didn't~ buy the trunk line
asciilifeform: built for the job
asciilifeform: what is the point of omitting this basic - and free - filter ?
asciilifeform: (they walk ring buffer when tx-ing or rx-ing frames)
asciilifeform: decimation: the only hitch is that modern nics appear to demand ram access
asciilifeform: this is only even theoretically usable for own code if you have a ~real~ (that is, amd, and 'coreboot'able) machine
decimation: pratically speaking it is best to keep the whole footprint smaller than the L3 cache on your cpu
asciilifeform: otherwise it doesn't matter where you put the buffer, so long as it gets used, whole, for every decode, with no further allocatory shenanigans
decimation: I also found a utility called 'pipe viewer' (pv) that rate-limits pipes - handy for both of the above tools
asciilifeform: (though mempool is probably the mechanism for said leak)
asciilifeform: ain't mempool either.
asciilifeform: ^ if this is not a memory leak, then i fart toyotas.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu dulap desperately needs to not be the only industrial-sized therealbitcoin node. phuctor is severely i/o starved.
asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/stats << tank is empty and is to be refilled this weekend. anyone who wants to test a key - now's the time.
decimation: not in the least. how do you distinguish?
decimation: kakobrekla: why are religious people any more ill for holding a conviction about the supernatural than atheists - who hold similar convictions?
decimation: danielpbarron: what does a 'practitioner of modern judaism' do exactly? like, they know they torah and tanakh but are too cool to follow them?
shinohai: Well I could certainly phrase it better kakobrekla. My brain is rather fried atm.
kakobrekla: I think it is wrong to ban a person just because they hold different beliefs. < this doesnt make much sense , but > I think it is wrong to ban a person just because are sick. < does.
shinohai: danielpbarron: I think it is wrong to ban a person just because they hold different beliefs. I have plenty of Xstian friends.
kakobrekla: does ba haet? yes? then its probably true.
davout: does reddit haet? yes? then it's probably true
kakobrekla: thats the first thing you establish before telling lies.
davout: "Those who believe there is a difference between nirvana and samsara, are already in samsara"
shinohai: The Jesus that is portrayed in the gospels seems the polar opposite of all that is preached now.
jurov: A new commandment I give upon thee: lean back and enjoy!
shinohai: So if god already knows I am evil and he is going to send me to hell, what is the point of even trying?
shinohai: If that is true, then does that mean God is equal part Satan as well? I don't follow.
shinohai: If there *is* a God jurov, I'd like to think he chooses you, instead of vice-versa. I know all the "free will" speeches.
jurov: if you are convinced that you're despicable scum and choose a faith that says so.. then you cherrypicked too
jurov: shinohai how can you ever choose a faith otherwise?
shinohai: I'd rather say "I'm an atheist" and be wrong, than be one of the hypocrites danielpbarron describes.
shinohai: I believe if you are going to follow a faith, you can't just pick and choose the parts that sound cherry to you.
kakobrekla: nah, the correct observation would be that religion is a virus and religious people ill.
shinohai: I have read the Bible many times and have come to the conclusion that the majority of "Christians" I have met or seen are decidedly un-Christlike.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 19:12:18; mircea_popescu: * danielpbarron too << maybe solution then is ask 7 yo kid if they should be killed and do the opposite.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 19:09:50; shinohai: trinque: I do regularly mumble prayers in public to Satan, when fundamentalists ruin my meal by trying to pray loudly over their food for 30 minutes.
shinohai: At the very least, I have not cursed God one time in all my failures with this pogo danielpbarron, so maybe there is hope for me yet.
punkman: Adlai: does the rocket fly?
shinohai: Same with me with this cross-compilation shit. I just got to take a breather and keep researching, eventually I'll get it.
jurov: as i can't get it to work and nobody's using it, maybe that would be for the best
assbot: Logged on 31-07-2015 00:53:05; asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov would you please consider getting rid of the PILE OF SHIT appended to the filenames ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: ;;later tell mike_c a belated grats on the birth of your daughter
mats: 20:25:57 <+asciilifeform> mats: down to business - what's your position on the 'july plot' men ? << no opinion rly
BingoBoingo: decimation: He would give a fuck. I have to imagine one hunts lions in part for the danger.
decimation: asciilifeform: re: radiothermal generators> the new hotness is to use...stirling engine! https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/rps/asrg.cfm
BingoBoingo: punkman: Far more badass than my dentist brother.
BingoBoingo: I actually didn't know he used a bow until minutes ago. I thought he would have used one of those exotic African calibers .300-.460 with a name attached like Weatherby or Tyranosaurus. I am impressed.
BingoBoingo: Also note Reuters includes that the dentist used a bow and arrow.
punkman: "One of the first things I did after installing OpenBSD back in the day was set up a 6bone tunnel and ping6 all three other IPv6 sites out there. I was living in the future. Fifteen years later, and well... Fuck IPv6."
assbot: Cecil the Lion is a Pretext for Expanding Extraterritoriality of US Law | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1M0HBNi )
BingoBoingo: Oh, a new qntra critic http://qntra.net/2015/07/cecil-the-lion-is-a-pretext-for-expanding-extraterritoriality-of-us-law/#comment-36023
decimation: except where is his mother's pension?
asciilifeform: e photographed, and since I once had to lend him 150 bolivars, I sort of blackmailed him, I asked him to get a picture of him to send it to my family. He was shorter than I was. When I found the picture I decided to speak, otherwise it was useless for me to say I had known Majorana.'
asciilifeform: ked like a prince. I sometimes told him What the hell do you live for ? You are always sad. He said he worked, we dined together, then he would disappear for 10-15 days. He had a yellow Studebacker. He only paid for the gas, otherwise he looked always penniless. Sometimes I used to tell him You care so much for this car and have all these papers. These were sheets with numbers and commas, bars. He never wanted to b
asciilifeform: r, few and wavy. The white hair of a man who was once black-haired. One could see it from the fact that he wore his watch over his shirt, so to wash his hands he opened his sleeves and black hair could be seen. He was shy, often silent, and if you invited him to a night club he wouldnt come. He might have been 50-55 years old. He had a roman accent but one could see he was not. One could also see he was well-learned. He loo
asciilifeform: 'I left to Venezuela because of disagreements with my father in April 1955. Once in Caracas, I went to Valencia with Ciro, a Sicilian friend, who presented me to a Mr. Bini. I connected Bini to Majorana thanks to Carlo, an Argentinian. He said Do you realize who that guy is ? Hes a scientist. Hes got a brain you cant imagine. He is mr. Majorana. They had met in Argentina. He was of average height, with white hai
asciilifeform: ^ mega-physicist, possibly the top mind in the subject in entire 20th c., vanished, also famously, under odd circumstances
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: The Physicist Who Vanished: The Strange Fate of Ettore Majorana | Mysterious Universe ... ( http://bit.ly/1OEvRh2 )
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu << i had no idea that there even was a 'majorana ran off to ar' theory! >> http://mysteriousuniverse.org/2015/05/the-physicist-who-vanished-the-strange-fate-of-ettore-majorana
asciilifeform: coderwill: on top of the thousand and one other sins, tor linked in ssl at the height of 'heartbleed' - something which pretty much nobody is speaking of today
asciilifeform: decimation: the thing is about as readable as bitcoin
asciilifeform: plus his tor article (don't have the link handy atm)
assbot: Logged on 04-10-2013 15:21:32; mircea_popescu: i'm with asciilifeform's suggestion : that pps is prima facie evidence that the nsa is in fact currently decoding ALL traffic passing through all tor nodes, linking it to originating ips and storing this mess.
asciilifeform: 'Last September, investigators discovered that Ciccolo allegedly wanted to travel overseas to fight for ISIS, according to court documents recently unsealed. Then, Ciccolo began speaking with someone whom he didn't realize was an undercover operative. On July 3, the FBI watched him buy a pressure cooker from a Walmart in North Adams, Massachusetts.'
asciilifeform: a little booth, in which one can enlist in the army; but it was 1) directly in the very centre of time square 2) fenced off, and guarded by police, no one could go in!
decimation: yes, but the problem today seems to be sorting signal from noise
asciilifeform: the ancients, must note, had a much easier job of it.
decimation: and the romans too
asciilifeform: the total war against honest history is a specifically 20th c. thing (if we discount chinese and egyptian monarchs who were deeply into rewriting the books)
decimation: certainly usg is gonna throw the book at snowden - how could anyone in the civil service have sympathy?
asciilifeform: (my primary beef with kalugin is that he is one of the folks actively working to ensure that an honest primary history of the 20th c. can never be written; rather than anything he did in the wars of the empires)
decimation: certainly. what is your position on mr. oleg of the kgb?
decimation: traitors to the third reich
asciilifeform: mats: down to business - what's your position on the 'july plot' men ?
BingoBoingo: I dunno how anyone could trust Greenwald after Citizenfour unless they have some liberal switch in their head which gets tripped when they see his Brazilian boyfriend
decimation: he's either a very good actor or he was earnest
BingoBoingo: But that's asciilifeform's theory
decimation: I do see how all the noise and confusion benefits usg's enemies
decimation: aside from the metadata stuff, the evidence that there's domestic spying going on seems pretty thin
decimation: yeah that's a pretty likely theory
BingoBoingo: decimation: I lean towards Snowden being a derpy redditor with an opportunity who happened to steal the powerpoints because... reddit
decimation: he might have had a pretty good case (that he was a whistleblower) if all he released was the verizon court order for all the metadata
trinque: he can be oblivious and serve the same purpose.
decimation: either he was a brilliant ru spy, or he was a self-appointed reddit internet policeman
mats: I have no dramatic theories as to wut is going on (like alf) but I do not care at all about what he has to say
decimation: I don't buy into this conspiracy theory stuff. a much more consistant theory is that he didn't know wtf he was talking about
decimation: mats: I think you are right about snowden by the way
BingoBoingo: I mean the connection mean I've basically self doxxed, but my slave name may actually be a less common string than the IRC nick.
coderwill: Ah, thanks for the background - that's really interesting. I myself am thinking about a new project, and was wondering if in this day and age it is a disadvantage to attach a real-life identify to the Internet.
coderwill: BingoBoingo: Not to change the topic, but have been wondering something, if you don't mind me asking - do you write under your alias as opposed to a real name for any particular reason?
coderwill: It will be interesting to see if food shortages are bearish for McDonald's in the long run. OTOH, I wonder how much of the menu is actually subject to food shortages.
BingoBoingo: Well, they will probably keep humans at the cash register to provide a surface for customers to direct anger at.
BingoBoingo: At the point where USG decides franchisee employees are actually McDonalds employees... coke machine
BingoBoingo: So long as McDonalds has few corporate stores they have to staff and having staff at all is largely a franchisee problem McDonalds will automate for consistency (i.e. robogrill) instead of doing so to purely reduce labor.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> mcdonalds 'provides good jobs' << Nah jobs are the franchinsee's problem
decimation: where do they dig this shit up? meanwhile actual shit happens in usg all around washington - not important?
assbot: Yes, my teenage son is transgender. No, you may not ask about his genitals. - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1I60ACb )
decimation: https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/07/30/yes-my-teenage-son-is-transgender-no-you-may-not-ask-about-his-genitals/?hpid=z9 < lol new low for wapo "When others ask me whether or not my son has a vagina, and they actually do ask, I feel violated and disrespected. Transgender people are human. "
BingoBoingo: decimation: I doubt it. The steps where humans are involved are the ones where X has to be moved to Y. Ones where the chromosonally retarded can perform adequate error checking. Perhaps the right machines exist in some bunker, or it isn't economical to produce them though they have been developed.
BingoBoingo: <decimation> so they are stuck with humans who pretend to know how to make coffee << Just like McDonalds where every aspect of food preparation is automated except for parts where the necessary machines don't yet exist.
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2015 19:45:47; asciilifeform: payload (incl. the signature) is in the crypted blob
assbot: Logged on 16-12-2014 01:40:04; asciilifeform: what follows is the payload, divided into K gibblets, each below udp mtu in size, each signed with ephemeral key. the gibblets are coded using fountain code (e.g. 'raptor') and you need N of K - in any order - to reassemble.
decimation: so they are stuck with humans who pretend to know how to make coffee
decimation: greenspun thinks that if starbucks went 'full coke machine' and got rid of the employees, they wouldn't be able to charge the rates they do, because 'not hand crafted'
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't know if you have been to a starbucks recently, but they converted over to 'fully automatic' espresso machines - with milk dispenser!
asciilifeform: so we can start talking about bytes in the bin!
asciilifeform: i.e. if you built it and it ended up sitting down in /home/luser/a/b/d/e/f/g/p/q/r/s, it will stay there. or rebuild WHOLE THING again.
asciilifeform: they contain configs with absolute paths !
asciilifeform: mod6, ben_vulpes, trinque, et al: if any of you had problems with 'rotor,' be aware that the toolchain dir and its contents CANNOT BE MOVED OR RENAMED
shinohai: I jokingly said that perhaps he and Edward Snowden were gay lovers on reddit once, and almost got tarred and feathered.
asciilifeform: the hilarious part re: elbrus - given ~only~ the published material - is that it has standard chinese peripherals, on memory-mapped i/o...
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: given as the whole purpose of elbrus, to the extent it had one, is to be a non-nato computer
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: this is the one thing guaranteed not to happen
BingoBoingo: That is likely. If any escape it may be that oracle wishes to kill the market for them.
asciilifeform: like the last... 4 of'em
asciilifeform: if any were produced at all, they are being used in-house.
shinohai: True dat, asciilifeform ... mod6 told me the same :/
trinque: might be the thing
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov would you please consider getting rid of the PILE OF SHIT appended to the filenames ?
trinque: ag3nt_zer0: began, then workload ate my free time for a bit, but it's still in my stack
BingoBoingo: 0.5.3 isn't much different from 0.7.2 really a lot of overlap. Mostly just more loc, but not too many differences yet in the ones they share. Most of the wild differences and cpp-isms enter in 0.8 and 0.9 and beyond
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho, the problem is that the item you are becoming familiar with, has no future.
BingoBoingo: It is hard to say what anyone counts on. It is also hard to say how well I actually understand the cpp I attempt a performance of reading. And so Imma keep chopping at this for a while to get more familiar with the code. main.cpp is already ~1000 loc shorter than 0.7.2 release, perhaps more. I figure Derp on 0.7, read 0.5.x and patches and maybe at some point I will understand
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 23:49:03; ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1218871 << none of the cups i had there tasted of burned diesel the way 'starbucks' mandatorily does.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: So I can learn and derp on systems other people aren't counting on
BingoBoingo: Not sources provided at http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/bitcoin-0.7.2/ are now out of sync with what I am actually running
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> y'know, like everybody in, e.g., buenos aires, can << this is wild and unsubstantiated FUD. bad coffee is everywhere in ba, the argentines can't grow their own, and their braindead government won't let them import green beans in enough of a timely fashion to keep them from going stale or molding. i have *had* good cups of coffee there, but even in the nice places the espresso is only casi casi.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 02:15:56; trinque: I reject entirely the notion that concepts can be owned.
assbot: Logged on 30-07-2015 01:58:03; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2015#1217301 << the legal precedent is that if you're thye sort of guy that solves his own poroblems rather than seek the help of the state, you're a self-radicalizing terrorists and general wesley snipes of nato wants you in treblinka
decimation: but at any rate, you can experiment yourself, dump large quantities of data from one machine to another. you will find a non-zero error rate eventually
gribble: The operation succeeded.
jurov: decimation: since you like to split hairs, does, say, does the noise distribution in your internet connection have a value you can use in shannon's theorem?
assbot: Logged on 13-04-2014 22:27:18; asciilifeform: the 'a) wanna buy strela? b) fuck off c) really, dontcha? b) ok sure c) off to jail' thing has been going so long that it doesn't even make national news every time now.
ascii_field: (karpeles doesn't want to eat the nailgun yet, apparently)
ascii_field: rather than his actual handlers
decimation: <+jurov> funkenstein_: shannon would apply if the intertubes were analog < shannon applies to intertubes, as his theory applies to all tranmission of information - you must expend energy to communicate and there is no infinitely reliable channel
shinohai: I think I read somewhere that failed "social currency" reddcoin 's lead developer quit, after squandering all their IPCO funds, and now they are going to attempt round two.
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LTGPjz )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/ << obligatory
mircea_popescu: meanwhile they sold for 1/4 what i was offering ? "presale" , what's that, the web2.0 word for "fraud" ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski lol ? they claimed iirc something more like 0.001 which is whyt i was offering 5k for 1btc last year
mircea_popescu: no, seriously, what's the thing quoted at ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu you'd be an even older old man by the time you went through a billion eth
kakobrekla: peterl because the end point of assbot url parser is in france. assbot is on another server, for obvious reasons.
mircea_popescu: go there, come back with functioning hardware ?