pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform the only other modification i made was choosing 'target architecture : x86_64' in the config menu.
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 04:57:03; mircea_popescu: consider the controlling case, as i opposed it to diametric s question back in the day. so quentin tarantino comes in here all upsed about you copying his latest movie. what do i say, "fuck off qt, if you made a movie you didn'ty make that movie" ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell asciilifeform with 'ncurses' installed, i went back to the buildroot dir, tried to 'make' and ended up with 'error 127' http://dpaste.com/0YZX5Y0.txt
mircea_popescu: total cuckold, the govt.
mircea_popescu: so funny that they collect all this data
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-09/australians-paying-thousands-after-ransomware-virus-infection/6683618 "The deputy chairwoman of the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, Delia Rickard, said over the past two months there had been a spike in the number of people falling victim to the scam. " "The commission has received 2,500 complaints this year and estimates about $400,000 has been paid to the hackers." fucking australians
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 05:25:46; onlooker: I have a son, he's 9 months old, I have to change his nappy, he doesn't respect math, time, copyright or patent. He's poor. My nephew is 12, he has no money of his own, but he has a computer, mines his own coins, and although they are not worth much, he's able to participate, He can't participate in Banking, he's not even allowed to use his own account
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1231871 <<< what is with (i assume) americans and no banking under 18? one of the first things we did at school was open a junior saver account whereby each friday the local banker rep would come by to collect our bank books and our $2 deposit each week, every week, each year without fail
phf: i'm pretty sure once i manage to build eulora on someone else's machine i'm just going to retire from computing altogether
ben_vulpes: clearly i don't understand how the world werkz
pete_dushenski: Guest96371: and if you also feel like giving 'rotor' (static linux and bitcoin build) a crack : http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html
pete_dushenski: Guest96371: there was some pretty decent conversation earlier today, mostly between asciilifeform and mircea_popescu about chip fabrication and game theory. start here maybe http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1230072
asciilifeform: one would, if lacking any other guidance, take 'longest chain'
ben_vulpes: don't confuse the issue.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the patches produced with antecedent marks (see earlier thread) could, hypothetically, stand alone.
asciilifeform: if there was some reason to.
asciilifeform: for the eulora folks, i will point out that the toolchain in 'rotor' could just as easily build their thing
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no arguments there.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150727/rotor_4c86b82236ebc4926a6ace8fb8310f37b948c8f1.tar.gz << it
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is in the tarball
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: "copy my rotor_buildroot_dot_config to the now-untarred buildroot dir as '.config'" << speaking of which, i seem to be snagged up here. can't find 'rotor_buildroot_dot_config'
asciilifeform: and pretending otherwise would, imho, be counterproductive
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the point i was trying to get across is that we are nowhere near a point where folks who are not #b-a regulars can really get into the true meat of the matter
phf: ben_vulpes: i have fresh formulas for the brew. also i've verified that eulora indeed builds with gcc-4.9
asciilifeform: incidentally there is nothing shameful in writing a commentary to another fella's patch
asciilifeform: i would dearly love to write a lengthy treatise to the ml on every single occasion
asciilifeform: since ben_vulpes is unhappy with this pattern, the next time ~every~ therealbitcoin node grinds to a halt on account of some shitgnomery, i won't be staying up at 3am releasing a patch.
ben_vulpes: "corrected" with no further context is useless.
asciilifeform: folks who somehow thought that the ml has meaning outside of #b-a, and happened to show up and read ml in precisely the wrong three minutes - may have scratched their head in frustration
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: folks who were reading the fucking log, had zero problems.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i suppose this is when we say that the log is both free and good reading and call it a day.
trinque: lots of people were wrongly recognized as all kinds of things in the past.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the funny part isn't that folks didn't go straight there, but that 'here is a pill against your headaches from last month+.' '.....'
onlooker: Ok so alternative medicine, homeopaths are where generally recognised as doctors prior to the AMA and big pharmas takeover of american medicine. If I'm telling you something you don't know I'll feel special :)
ben_vulpes: unless you're apple and can forcibly cram your changes down the world's throat, you have to wait for the world to catch up to your releases.
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> i STILL don't understand why just about everybody insists on building stator. << adoption takes a few weeks, have you seen the android numbers?
ben_vulpes: <phf> re was explained in grant morrison's INVISIBLES series. get your facts, straight son, straight from the source. fnord. << i think there are characters missing from this line but i can't tell
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: clearly not. just the end parts
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> ;;later tell mod6 http://dpaste.com/3YFS9YV.txt << test2 logs for ya << that's the whole log?
mircea_popescu: i thought homeopathy was that thing where diluting things makes them work.
pete_dushenski: well, stan's maze then.
asciilifeform: 'srsly, how hard to build reactor! dig some shit out of the ground, rearrange it a bit'
mircea_popescu: onlooker how did you get the idea homeopathy does something, anyway ?
mircea_popescu: srsly, you need what, 15 minutes of her time tops ? she's got the whole day.
asciilifeform: 'any other' only works like this if you're mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: like any other.
asciilifeform: just for the asking.
mircea_popescu: you know what's also fascinating in the same vein asciilifeform ? not everyone's courting the most beautiful girl in town! in a frictionless infospace they would! nevertheless...
mircea_popescu: expect a millenium of actual slavery for the plebs and not be disappointed by the events.
onlooker: I wouldn't even try to argue morality, math is the only morality I respect, if you can call it that
mircea_popescu: onlooker nah, the pendulum is swinging the other way. the poor had it way better than anyone would have expected, after the ww2 carnage. it is going away, it is perhaps never coming back to this degree.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1231604 << because it was there first and thus was heard of first and thus etc.
onlooker: mircea popescu, "the poor" is arbitrary anyway, I'm not suggested they even need rescuing rather they the playing field will be leveled whether the rich or elites help them or not
mircea_popescu: well because for a moment the slave thing and a previous comment sort-of made it look possible that you were 15
onlooker: old enough to remember when the POTUS was admired as the leader of the free world, and young enough to hope I live to see the last POTUS haha
mircea_popescu: when hiring a psychic, always hire the cheapest.
onlooker: because despite excellent job adults have done conditioning young people to be slaves, there are some who just won't submit
mircea_popescu: wait. someone seriously imagines they're missing something by not reading random homeopatic tracts ?
mircea_popescu: in any case, there's no rescuing the poor (and it's a morally dubious proposition to even try). let instead those of the poor that are there undeservedly claw their way out. over many generations of belaboured effort, ideally.
onlooker: asciilifeform thanks for asking, I guess a lot of the ideas I'm interested in homeopathic and medical stuff. There's a lot of "cures" out there, and so much of it is behind paywalls. I don't really have a plan for how to change it, I just expect it change for the same reason I expect the money to end.
asciilifeform: (see the adelberger thread)
mircea_popescu: so they say.
mircea_popescu: onlooker you're missing the part where i'm not sharing ideas with you. because who are you.
onlooker: ah, they are old idea lol... they are a good start no doubt, but it's not really my point. Anyway I don't expect the world to see things as I do, if everyone agreed with me I'd be worried anyway lol
onlooker: I just feel that if we actually shared ideas instead of hiding them from one another the world would be a smarter place. I realise the thinking required to get from here to there is a gargantuan leap
asciilifeform: (and other related)
asciilifeform: i'll have you know that at my university they play (on symphonic orchestra, yes!).... 'super mario.'
mircea_popescu: they played some modern shit. fucking insult to civilisation.
asciilifeform: american symphonics are on par with the rest of third world
mircea_popescu remembers in horror the one and only boston symphonic orchestra session he went to
asciilifeform: never seen the horse with own eyes, and don't expect to live to.
asciilifeform: we aren't getting mozart for the bargain, no
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mayhap you have the upper hand with that yeah
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is, you gotta contend with the fact that to many folks, 'copyright' ~means~ britney and microshit
trinque: read the logs, guy.
onlooker: so you don't think copyright, patent's or the legal system are antiquated?
asciilifeform: the sensory bubbles in which u.s. folk walk around in at public places are astonishingly fine
mircea_popescu: onlooker i don't think the antiquated legal system being retained was at any point contemplated.
onlooker: let me try another angle, would bitcoin work if it wasn't copyrighted? And if the answer is yes, does it follow that this means we can share ideas while keeping a record of who owns what without requiring this antiquated legal system?
asciilifeform: surprised they paid attention!
mircea_popescu: the unfuckable jersey wearing 30something set, too.
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu and the 4 other mircea_popescus are watching the good shit, while from my perch it looks like the entire western culture went poof
mircea_popescu: onlooker understand something : you got no leg into the world of ideas. i'm simply not sharing. copyright is there to give you a (slight) chance, nothing else.
assbot: Logged on 09-08-2015 05:23:00; mircea_popescu: me and five people will see the cannes films and poor people can watch reruns of "best ads of superbowl" over at denny's.
onlooker: mircea popescu, ask yourself this, would bitcoin work without copyright, if the answer is yes, then it's not a requirement for ideas to be shared while keeping an ownership record
mircea_popescu: if it was i missed it. but really, 20 years, 1-2k girls, this broadly speaking is on par with the results of the serbs.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could've sworn this was in the logz
mircea_popescu: turns out a bunch of pakis trafficked white girls as young as 12 by the thousands, for the reason of being white. which was concealed by the brits.
onlooker: who are the vast majority of the poor? well, I would argue that those under 15 in the USSA have the biggest skin in the economic game despite being currently mostly excluded from it lol... Crypto could/may change that
asciilifeform: onlooker: there's a fella who's been sitting in front of the u.s. 'white house' since 1982.
assbot: Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1IANg6N )
mircea_popescu: apropos of nothing : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
onlooker: I have a son, he's 9 months old, I have to change his nappy, he doesn't respect math, time, copyright or patent. He's poor. My nephew is 12, he has no money of his own, but he has a computer, mines his own coins, and although they are not worth much, he's able to participate, He can't participate in Banking, he's not even allowed to use his own account
mircea_popescu: which strictly exists because of the whole IP convention.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'textbooks' in this case being - once you reject the outright drivel and pediwikia printouts - dour and very terse, encyclopaedic overview of the basic maths, typically
mircea_popescu: what textbooks ? there are no textbooks because why sell shit for 10 dollars
asciilifeform: onlooker: consider, for instance, the predicament of somebody trying to correctly implement plain old rsa algo.
mircea_popescu: me and five people will see the cannes films and poor people can watch reruns of "best ads of superbowl" over at denny's.
mircea_popescu: onlooker how are the poor getting correct data iyo ?
asciilifeform: onlooker: 'math' as this mythological 'sword in the stone' that 'anyone!!!111!!' can just pick up and use, is unfortunately a fiction
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: between the chore of shoveling '98 spam and the chore of answering mail from other maths folks ?
onlooker: askiilifeform, perhaps I should say math is giving voice to the poor, because it doesn't distinguish my data from yours
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you perceive a difference there ?
mircea_popescu: onlooker one attaches to form, the other attaches to concept. this is a fundamental distinction in any case. see the earlier thread re lost 1800 tech know-how, and the russian z80s.
asciilifeform: just to the chore of interacting with people
onlooker: mircea, if you are distinguishing between copyright and patents it seems a petty distinction to me. I put them in the same category, both intend to punish people for copying thoughts and ideas
asciilifeform: it is a thing that barely exists outside of the chore of shoveling spamola
asciilifeform: the 'gurl with 1000 beta' is pretty clear, though it is a case of '1,2,3,infinity'
asciilifeform: the 'bitcoin gives voice'
mircea_popescu: which of the i dunno, three or so
asciilifeform perhaps lacks the lsd to follow this thread
mircea_popescu: in this view the nsa spying is more a required public service, like emergency health care.
onlooker: mircea popescu, exactly and I wouldn't put you in the same category either despite your claim that you are a defacto banker. Anyway, I won't pay for your work, despite admiring your lovely way with language. I just feel that the one thing you miss is that you are not the only one able to come up with genius. Did one person invent the light globe? Copyright seems to say yes, but then the history of the victors is nothing new
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 23:16:19; cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1231116 <<< mobile phones mang, it's not just you + her on the beach but you + 1000 beta faggots who follow her twitter/facebook/instagram + her on the beach
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1231494 << this is actually a great fucking point. buncha immature twerps acting out their life like they're in some sort of movie.
mircea_popescu: it soothes a psyche an' brings balance.
mircea_popescu: i'll tell you waht it is. i get to sometimes beat the everliving shit out of the students.
mircea_popescu: eh, i just had the peanut chicken you perhaps remember, and then went for the nude entertainment thing. hard to bother me for a while.
assbot: Logged on 19-07-2014 03:17:34; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if i didn't know any better, i'd imagine we went to uni together. we had 'the same' chick! she bedeviled our number theory prof with at least a hundred very boneheaded questions every lecture. he seethed, boiled, but couldn't throw her out. why? 'registered special needs.' (going for math degree!) she even got unlimited time on exams.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm getting flashbacks now of my number theory lecture, where we had that gurl
mircea_popescu: nevertheless... not as simple as all that.
mircea_popescu: the argument re stealing is actually ancient. it was articulated by the pillars of roman thought, of all people.
mircea_popescu: onlooker i am de facto a banker, but i doubt the term has any substantial meaning to you past "those meanie assholes that make the house i want cost more than i can afford".
onlooker: mircea popescu, yes, but you appear to be of the more logical bent than the standard elitist. Take for example your claim the paying for good things is how we get good things, this may be logical, but in fact the way the world currently works stealing good things has proven to be far more effective, Bankers are elitist too, would you put yourself in the same category as them?
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 22:53:48; ag3nt_zer0: i did that damn "visualize a quarter" experiment for a couple weeks and whne i finally found one, it was glued to the pavement
asciilifeform: n6: please consider reading kernighan and pike's 'the unix programming environment'
asciilifeform: n6: trying to get hand-fed through this gnarly and unpleasant process will be frustrating both to you and to others
asciilifeform: n6: since nobody else is standing up to do it, i will tell you the bad news: it appears that you are not yet ready for a source-based linux system
onlooker: *as something the elitests use..."
onlooker: I asked if you had an opinion, from the perspective of someone who seems intelligent and uses bigger words than me. I appreciate you taking the time to reply at all, I don't mind if you have no opinion, just I hoped you would see copyright as the elitists use to tell poor people they are not allowed to think
mircea_popescu: (ftr, the arms smuggle thing did happen. almost quite to syria. for 10 points, name the famous french poet who did this in his teens)
asciilifeform: he can beg on the streets if he wants.
mircea_popescu: consider the controlling case, as i opposed it to diametric s question back in the day. so quentin tarantino comes in here all upsed about you copying his latest movie. what do i say, "fuck off qt, if you made a movie you didn'ty make that movie" ?
n6: trinque, asciilifeform: Would you be able to point me to a place where I can learn how to build lsub on my mac then put it on a usb drive and move it to gentoo so I can get wireless working and make a key?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform supposedly it wasn't on the sidewalk.
asciilifeform: 'tis one thing if i was given a secret, swore an other. entirely other thing when i find a number scribbled on the sidewalk and decide to scribble it elsewhere
mircea_popescu: there's a trilema article about that, actually.
onlooker: mircea popescu, you don't need to have an opinion about the color of you shit either lol...
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 22:47:43; ag3nt_zer0: something about the jesus would have been a socialist shit
asciilifeform: which as i understand is the perverse concept that somebody gets to bang on my door and demand gold for copying a number
mircea_popescu: then i don't need to have an oppinion on it.
mircea_popescu: don't be coming to me to relieve you of oaths you took on the theory that you shouldn't have and if you were a better man you wouldn't have.
onlooker: if you fail to keep a secret they you have two choices, you can blame yourself for not keeping it well, or you can blame me and try to enforce copyright
mircea_popescu: so then...
hanbot: n6 alright, so then make that your top priority.
onlooker: I don't think copyright is the same thing as keeping a secret, if you keep a secret and you keep it well then you don't need copyright
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, then... it's complicated.
mircea_popescu: do you propose to do away with the POSSIBLITY of that understanding ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ever been privy to something on the understanding you won't be sharing it ?
asciilifeform: i don't see how it 'is complicated' at all. folks who wanna be paid when i copy a number, get a raging hardon for the state (tm) (r) when it makes noises of promise to make it happen
trinque: mod6: putting that email together
trinque: mircea_popescu: one thing occured to me this evening re: trump. he's telling the other people running to their faces that he's bought and paid for all of them in the past.
onlooker: hi there, would you like to share your thoughts on copyright? I've only come across your writings today and found them most entertaining.
hanbot: n6: get in the wot, don't pester people via pm, and forget about any braindamaged notions of "lobbying MP" you've cooked up for yourself.
phf: parsons is quite a character, there's a nice writeup about him and the whole crowley/hubbard connection in "apocalypse culture"
phf: i'm sure hubbard just lifted whatever he could from his time at the agape lodge
ag3nt_zer0: yeah... you ever look into the jack parsons/crowley/hubbard threesome?
phf: i only vaguely remember that talk, because i listened to it under the influence, and at some point i was convinced that i could perform magical rituals, and the only thing keeping me from fundamentally affecting reality was years of societal conditioning that i could at the time overcome. i think i was also at some point convinced that bush was a great grandson of aliester crowley by way of pauline pierce, and that he's going to bring about
ag3nt_zer0: phf: i dunno; after he said he wrote his own reality and as he was writing the things he was writing were coming true I figured the comic couldnt be better than that...
ag3nt_zer0: it's no secret that california shares a magickal connection based on the law of correspondences to the Hindu goddess of destruction and the final age of dissolution, Kali... nor is it coincidence that the sun sets on the western world in KaliforniCaitlynJender - Bernardino porno bender blender
mod6: yah, I left him a note to re-send a patch with a detached sig to the ML. can help or do it for him if required, etc.
mod6: was a gentoo/glibc environement -- compiled buildroot with the musl settings. didn't change anything to the "rotor" steps execept for adding the change to BDB configure options in trinque's message.
mod6: once we have that, and a new patch from trinque, i can complete my script and have a rotor that builds these test bundles with x86-64
asciilifeform: i personally regard these as important knobs and their absence from the original bitcoin as an atrocity
asciilifeform: mod6: i regard them as useful
mod6: do you think we should even bother with block dump/eat, -verify all?
mod6: was thinking that next I'll work on a patched bundle up through -verify all with rotor. and then work ourselves up to a place where we feel comfortable.
ag3nt_zer0: i mean I get the whole thing he was on about but he was seemd stragley excited haha
asciilifeform: it has to be supplied by the operator
mod6: yeah. but your bundle doesn't have the right directory structure, and doesn't really have a patching trail or anything.
mod6: asciilifeform: so, what my goal is, short term, is to produce a bundle that (similar to TEST2) is patched up through -verifyall that we can drop into the rotor, and use that for testing next.
ag3nt_zer0: phf: hahaha was that really in the INVISIBLES?
pete_dushenski: every day a new maze, then... cheese !
asciilifeform: i also appreciated. how else would we have learned that i am the last one alive with a sane linux install, for instance.
mod6: pete_dushenski: don't bother with the testing for TEST2 (or anyone else), just work for now on building rotor.
asciilifeform: defeating the very purpose of stator.
asciilifeform: ^ you are using CRUD FROM OUTSIDE THE STATIC BALL
mod6: However, I have seen that on Ubuntu & Debian if you build boost without libboost-python-dev boost will complain -- it will still compile, but it'll complain. it complains less with the python errors if it has that and the libbost-python-dev dependentcies installed.
asciilifeform: if your stator did not build before but builds after running the above, IT IS NOT STATIC !!!
mod6: Right, should be trying to bulid the Rotor, really.
asciilifeform: HAVING THEM ON YOUR BOX IS USELESS AT BEST!
asciilifeform: start the recipe and prod me when you hit a stumble.
asciilifeform: and go from there
pete_dushenski: they're not far off, mind
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: i know you wrote rotor for a reason, of this there is little doubt, but believe it or not, your instructions aren't dumbed down enough for me
asciilifeform: and use that binary for the rest of your life if you like.
asciilifeform: but seven other people will come and each one will bring seven idiocies from his local os
asciilifeform: the reason being that this is a waste of life
phf: re was explained in grant morrison's INVISIBLES series. get your facts, straight son, straight from the source. fnord.
phf: ag3nt_zer0: raw didn't pen principia, that's just a persistent misconception, in FACT it was revealed to trinque in its complete form by the divine mother HERSELF (hail eris!) during some of his particularly strong ACID trips (10 strip, they said it was weak, so he took 6, damn, man, i'm seeing things ain't even come up yet), at which point he traveled back in TIME to spread the good word to the honest people of california. this and much mo
pete_dushenski: seriously all i did was install os and follow steps outlined in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000140.html
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: what the hell did you build, and on what
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: which does *not* match the one currently on my site.
ben_vulpes: 33ff9cc085cfca6fa92443a0a17ef3dd7fe54765b6886b936d8955446f85a63e85298f79cd189345ebb54622084c5c414b68aba260e61c1ef22abebd8ed3ca82 << 512 of the recent logs
phf: ben_vulpes: wait, can you please check your log bundle. i'm getting diff identical folders from the first one i get and the updated one
phf: come to think of it i should probably test that it fails without the flag but with bullet present. i'll spin that up now..
phf: ben_vulpes: so it looks from the log like it's still picking up bullet from somewhere. i updated the repo, so now there's an explicit --without-bullet in the script, if you do brew update and rerun. i tested it by installing bullet and then doing a cs build
ben_vulpes: users derp their keys into localstorage?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: Ethereum down -74.25 % today, much investment!
ben_vulpes: <trinque> funkenstein_: yes, how could you have a complete model of the thing inside itself? << "to simulate a universe, you must have a universe"
ben_vulpes: <ag3nt_zer0> well thats what i meant about the political naivity naivte, you mean
trinque: I'd rather get sawed in half
assbot: Cruel Nature: Lions eating their prey while it is still alive! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DyynFx )
cazalla: how does one humanely kill a whale anyway? it's already outta the water, just get it over and done with and saw that baby up
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1231260 <<< harden the fuck up, people gotta eat ya know!
trinque: the art of sitting... uncomfortably
funkenstein_: 1st attention, 2nd attention.. shift the assembly point
assbot: Logged on 08-08-2015 17:34:56; phf: well, you're not experiencing it directly, and it seems palpable here, in the real world. like i went to a beach a few weeks ago in americatown (ocean city, md) and the vibes are just nasty. sluggish girls with stooped shoulders avoiding any sort of eye contact or making nasty faces at you if you linger on them too long
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=08-08-2015#1231116 <<< mobile phones mang, it's not just you + her on the beach but you + 1000 beta faggots who follow her twitter/facebook/instagram + her on the beach
funkenstein_: absolutely. trinque have you read the carlos castenada series? some great vocabulary introduced to discuss consciousness
mod6: <shinohai> funkenstein_ confirmed that the bug is only on my end, and not in bitcoind << ok thanks for the update
mod6: <+hanbot> re ml: where are sha256sums for, eg, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html (patch)? << Hi, in the case of that patch email, the SHA1 sum is embedded in the file name. For example: asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch -- if you were to download this patch, you could then run `sha1sum asciilifeform_dnsseed_snipsnip_192f7bc7c14c1d31c7b417c9cd77be51c4d255f2.patch` and it sh
trinque: it would seem that human beings have much more going on mentally than they're aware
funkenstein_: making the analogy to silicon computer terminology, processes have labels - identities if you will
trinque: explain the question?
trinque: the one that makes sense to me is that having an identity is distinct from saying you have a model of your own consciousness
trinque: funkenstein_: yes, how could you have a complete model of the thing inside itself?
ag3nt_zer0: ok gonna go hack my monkey at the piano... good afternoon
funkenstein_: "Rev. Ivan Stang originally planned on suing the authors for plagiarizing content from the Book of the SubGenius, but then realized that Principia Discordia had been written several decades earlier and that the Book of the SubGenius had technically plagiarized Principia Discordia"
ag3nt_zer0: prometheus rising is described as an operaters manual for the human brain and is a syncretism of learys 8 circuit brain model , korzybski's langugae theories, quantum gobbldygook, and other brain change shit
ag3nt_zer0: funkenstein: yeah maybe i am mistaken but i recall that he penned the principia discordia