assbot: Successfully unrated WolfGoethe
trinque: !v assbot:trinque.unrate.WolfGoethe:aebf4e3a51678a9538932c577f3d025744b6d9d15447342b9cbcc4b197eae9ab
trinque: !unrate WolfGoethe
gribble: WolfGoethe was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 10 weeks, 3 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes, and 21 seconds ago: <WolfGoethe> some fool locking up my coins with bogus trades. what fool wants to deposit cash to the bank... at midnight???
trinque: ;;seen WolfGoethe
gribble: liquidassets was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 weeks, 6 days, 6 hours, 4 minutes, and 8 seconds ago: <liquidassets> property only entered into it when I tried looking up meaning to funciary commodity. Yes, the "do you want it?" seems to be the question. Thanks MP always a pleasure
phf: oh, i missed the confusion part. the setup saves text files of sms messages and ~separately~ a folder of voicemail messages in mono mp3
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:22:09; BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242106 << prolly a great thing to fix huh. << In practice largely supplanted by the patch on therealbitcoin list
trinque: and the problem's so simple!
trinque: just another webkit wrapper
ascii_field: the essential thing is to use nothing whatsoever created by the folks who have so thoroughly disqualified themselves.
trinque: the browser, emphatically not
trinque: I am saying hypertext as the concept that there are relationships in written word that can be traversed is right
ascii_field: phf: the whole shit-orchestra, all the way down to the turtles and elephants, is a mega-liability
phf: it's probably better then nothing, but without a foundation style audit, it's a liability
mircea_popescu: for the gfx browser.
trinque: independent of the site author!
trinque: and it would know things you could do to the media!
trinque: yeah nah, I'm talking burn it all to the ground
phf: trinque: closure is a browser, which spawned a bunch of projects, one of them is closure-html, an html parser
trinque: because hypertext isn't wrong, the browser is
phf: trinque: there's "closure"
mircea_popescu: ie one that supported none of the crud.
trinque: the DOM is far to intermingled to ever deallocate certain things
ascii_field: who doesn't believe this - get thee to valgrind, and see for yourself.
mircea_popescu: so for my own curiosity (inspired mostly by our bitcoin experiments here) i had it tested. there's no modern browser thatr doesn't leak memory.
ascii_field: this is almost UNKNOWN on any other vendor
phf: trinque: i parse gsm by hand, because. but there's a handful of linux packages that'll do it for you
ascii_field: trinque: how else is the thing to let your machine know that it got a call, msg, or whatnot
mircea_popescu: i bet you he gets the bulk of it from womenz that don't know enough contemporaneous culture to just send nudies.
trinque: phf: what's this modem? is the sms aspect special, or do I just need to learn those horrible looking codes?
ascii_field: here in the stone age lands, it is generally expected of a 'serious person' to be reachable by voice phone
trinque: and if something doesn't do either of those things, it gets taped into one of them, or abandoned
mircea_popescu: if someone is dumb enough to talk to a machine they should CONTINUE.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck even listens to voicemail. i never have.
mircea_popescu: phf why not download the text ?!
kakobrekla: bbbut you are starting off with text which is best, especially to download on the road
phf: obviously, they get lame'd
ascii_field: incidentally, and not unrelated, payphones of the traditional kind where almost entirely abolished where i live
mircea_popescu: why not make them bitmaps
ascii_field: granted, not as extensive as once before, in the old days
ascii_field: they still have separate cabling and all.
jurov: they rely on 'net, too, back since desert storm
mircea_popescu: this problem is easily resolved : there can not be an "any" node.
jurov: ascii_field: if it can filter internet such, then it can do radio, too
ascii_field: 'a' == every territory presently occupied by the bugmen
mircea_popescu gapes in amazement at the incredibly powerful tool he came up with over dinner conversation.
ascii_field: that there's your 'every.'
ascii_field: fine. when i pull this 'cord', we get a bitcoin node in a place where usg does not wish for there to be honest nodes.
mircea_popescu: so then you say this, and your "Certain" has become an "every"
ascii_field: for every pull of the cord.
mircea_popescu: think is "all". wank is "some". "certain" is iffy and should be resolved to either.
mircea_popescu: actually, i would propose that's the difference between think and wank in the space in question.
mircea_popescu: see, that's the difference. i don't think we ca do a "like to think" if the premise is not an "all" or "every"
ascii_field: one effective answer is 'don't go there' - reasonable
mircea_popescu loathes to think without premise.
mircea_popescu: so what';s the premise ? i guess i missed it.
ascii_field: and therefore not of interest.
ascii_field: ^ ANOTHER reason tx ~has~ to be expensive, and blocks - light.
punkman: well US transactions need to leave the continent no?
ascii_field: not to be relied on for the future.
ascii_field: application for hypothetical device
ascii_field: but do wake me up when somebody starts transmitting a therealbitcoin blockchain i can pick up with my rtlsdr !!
ascii_field: trinque: it still lives & dies by the official transmitters
trinque: general notion being that I might do some driving around with the laptop soon, see the states while it's easy, and I'd like to rely on passive tech (beeper, gps, etc) more as an exercise than because of any operational need
ascii_field: there is a proper one somewhere
ascii_field: signal from the station is very strong, can be received, typically, even in a lift, or an underground station
gribble: POCSAG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POCSAG>; POCSAG - Signal Identification Wiki: <http://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/POCSAG>; RTL-SDR Tutorial: POCSAG Pager Decoding - rtl-sdr.com: <http://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl-sdr-tutorial-pocsag-pager-decoding/>
ascii_field: small box that only receives (somewhere in the 400 MHz band), with character display
trinque: surely this, being sane, must be on the way out
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure they still heartbeat
ascii_field: trinque: passive in the sense of not transmitting
trinque: ascii_field: now that I'm reading about it, is the passive in one-way pagers actually passive in the sense I care about?
ascii_field: that scarcely anyone keeps these for longer than 2-3 yrs
ascii_field: then - straight to dumpster
ascii_field: danielpbarron: wait till the os update is mandatory
mircea_popescu: but then again gold is a very low bar. almost anything makes more sense to hoard.
ascii_field: unless they have peculiarly short shelf lives
mircea_popescu: the consensus is, it makes more sense to hoard NRFB smartphones than gold.
jurov: so the consensus is.. i should start stocking on hdds/ssds?
ascii_field: pretty much 90% of my 'rich' fantasy consists of being able to actually do my hardwired 26-hour circadian instead of pretending, badly, to do the standard 24
ascii_field is to sleep as the archetypical sex starved 14 y.o. is to sex
ascii_field: wake me up when the makers of 2007-present autos hang
ascii_field: however it works if 'that's how world works' and the consumer frog is boiled 1) reasonably slowly 2) in unison
mircea_popescu: the soviets tried the inflatatron, but by making shitstick cellphgone. it blew in their face)
mircea_popescu: (incidentally -0 this is how the russians ruined their at some point fledging industrial reputation
ascii_field: they ship'em now.
mircea_popescu: yeah but i don't see how the smartphone made out of shit and sticks will cut it
ascii_field: the other thing is that price doesn't double when those directly hit can 'borrow' using shitflation - e.g., switch to chinese electrolytic capacitors instead of fukkupied jp parts
mircea_popescu: price doubled. (price doubled specifically bnecause it wasn't all the way, incidentally)
mircea_popescu: but yes : goods there moved from pipeline to storage like... halfway. 1/3 of a way really
mircea_popescu: jurov nah it was like 3, and in any case the weather stayed bad and 90% of production was in the same area.
mircea_popescu: pogo isn't the same thing as "cellphone"
jurov: pogo is useless without hard drive, either (and no, we don't have antifuse rom)
ascii_field: as it is, a used car's worth of benjie buys the lot.
mircea_popescu: this is the star line of goods. just like normal stars.
mircea_popescu: that 1% total sale volume is the last sustainable place for it, after price increases past 100x demand collapses entirely and the good either becomes monetized or disappears outright, in the hands of collectors.
mircea_popescu: so, sales of 100 units/day, at 100x what they cost a day, some point at t5.
mircea_popescu: the good now moves from pipeline to sotrage pricing, and as a result it will slowly dwindle as price goes exponential and demand collapses.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field here's the model i propose to you : current debit is 1mn units/day, say, call this t0. "world ends" event, t1. prices spike 40-50% and social support wanes. demand drops 80%. this is t2. production stops, and the pipeline gets diverted to storage, this is t3.
thestringpuller: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/#comment-115061 << It's a shit blizzard mircea_popescu
mircea_popescu: the us dun count for shit in this story.
mircea_popescu: the pipe's chinese mostly.
ascii_field: i won't be surprised if we learn that usg has purchased and burned the bulk of those.
mircea_popescu: ytou know, like the pogos. exactly.
mircea_popescu: not for a moment was i proposing user-owned shit to make it. but there's boxes.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 19:29:50; mircea_popescu: nah. they're not actually useful and were made in bulk, so.
mircea_popescu: and for the record, that guardian article is a horrible hack job. it looks like someone took a camera and went to a coupla yard sales. wtf guardian, seriously ? you ever seen new jersey ?
mircea_popescu: certainly before the 2020.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242241 << bwahaha thanks for adding the references. this is going to become VERY useful in the future.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 17:35:12; kakobrekla: really it prolly should be more expensive than _ANY_ other way of paying.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 17:28:32; kakobrekla: stress network meh, thanks for derping in the history of everything forever and no way they heard of testnet.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242217 << they don't want to test, thjey know it doesn't work already. they want to derp. and, for a while yet, they can, so let 'em enjoe.
mircea_popescu: nah. they're not actually useful and were made in bulk, so.
mircea_popescu: yea. and in 2020 a phone that has 32 gb card will cost 100x what the phone with the 64 gb card cost in 2015.
fluffypony: SO THEREFORE
mircea_popescu: a more pointed example of how the entire thing just ground to a halt could not be devised if one tried. and yet the derp figures this bolsters his case. because he went to a school in the united states.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 15:46:27; pete_dushenski: "Gavin has done more for bitcoin in a few years than you could do in a life time. 2003 128mb in my phone, 2006 1Gb on my phone. 2010 32gb on my phone, 2015, 64 gb on my phone. And your telling me raising the block size limit from 1 to 20 mb is an issue?"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242168 << it is, lol. check out the idiot. 3 years, up 64x. 4 more years, up 32x. 5 more years, up 2x.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 15:38:50; pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/08/18/asking-your-friend-to-bang-your-prospective-wife-and-other-silly-ideas/
mircea_popescu is kinda tooi lazy to dig up that article with the oglaf cartoon re the electoral debater.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242140 << thios, really. there's absolutely no reason to allow aws anywhere.
mircea_popescu: why they expect it to work however...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242129 << the dream of cheapskate "influencers", yoiu know ? they're gonna spin up 5k amazon instances for $500, and count it as a "majority" becauyse totally, votes from a buried pogo and an aws instance with a 100 hour lifespan are EQUAL.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:31:36; asciilifeform: nah but you 'get points for trying' if you break your fists. somehow. in the bizarre usg twerp view of the world.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242118http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242118 << quite exactly. "o hai, wer didn't accomplish anything and our servers crashed in the process. WE CAN JUGGLE!!1"
mircea_popescu: i guess they did get something from the early mpoe-pr adversative marketing techniques. so in that sense less dumb than most forum derps.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:27:14; punkman: "The previous CoinWallet test only achieved about 15% of its output because its servers crashed."
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mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-news-in-brief-hearn-is-a-shitstain-mp-is-right-fuck-reddit-love-satoshi/#comment-115061 << kinda nonplussed this didn't deliver yet.
trinque: how's this not just any other altcoin?
trinque: the kind of woman you can curl up with a book in
mircea_popescu: but i did order mcdonalds icecream cones be purchased and sampled, because wtf already, when i came here first i was shocked at how good the icecream was. then i found a place which shocked me again, at how good their icecreeam was over argentine icecream. and recentyly found a second, which YET AGAIN
mircea_popescu: trinque dun hurt telling these things out plain, in general.
punkman: mircea_popescu: they drop the mcd on their own. << yeah that's what I was shooting for, why would a good slavegirl want to vote in derplections?
trinque: yeah, of course this was a goodbye, so I have made an assessment of whether the tumor's extractable
phf: trinque: in my experience you want to bring that socialist stuff to the surface asap, and then nip it in the bud, or end the whole thing if failed. eventually the unexplored is going to be what creates strife
mircea_popescu: trinque see ? that's your spv. "you're my thing, and if you shut up and suck it you may one day be smart enough to do all the things you don't like toi think about now because you're unsure"
mircea_popescu: ascii_field if you enforce looks and a fuckable muscle tone, they drop the mcd on their own.
trinque: yeah I've said things like that, and not asked whether
ascii_field: let's also ask which mcdonalds item they will be ordered to eat?
mircea_popescu: that question divides the abstract world in two. not even that one or the other of the two kinds is better. merely the distinction is useful in and of itself.
punkman: why would you let them vote?
mircea_popescu: one of the most useful conceptual tools at your disposal. "am i doing this because i'm not sure i'm the king-emperor, or because it's what the king-emperor does ?"
mircea_popescu: would you tell them who to vote for ?
mircea_popescu: lemme ask you this. if you were the well bearded patriarch of a most devouted harem
mircea_popescu: you thinking what they'd do is not good enough.
mircea_popescu: shinohai right, and this exists not as a tool to keep in line the beta boys of isis, but as a means for isis to lose its fucking leadership.
trinque: right, were I to just take charge and say "well you belong to me then, and that's that" she'd react with all the socialist bullshit in her head
mircea_popescu: theres a reason when people go dancing they agree aforehand on WHAT dance will they dance
mircea_popescu: which is why /me recommends structured relations. takes all this dubious derpage out of the thing.
shinohai: I also read a story of Yazidi women who have formed a paramilitary force to kill their rapists (ISIS)
trinque: my reaction was "if this is your natural reaction to me, what the fuck's wrong with it?"
mircea_popescu: trinque dun judge womenz by what they say to you at times like that.
mircea_popescu: an' should really be ashamed of themselves.
trinque: you know, a former girlfriend I said goodbye to this weekend told me that the problem with being with me was that she lost the desire to seek other sexual partners when fucking me (this apparently being psychologically important to her for some reason related to shopping)
mircea_popescu: i suppose you could turn this into a "you're not supposed to be a man, i picked you because you're shit, to make you my live toy. if you contradict this i'll fucking kill you" which could then be summarized as "jilted" and "revenge". but if THAT is what the authors are thinking when using those words, they're worse than the KKK over there.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 14:22:09; BingoBoingo: They aren't complete, because I accidentalied a lot of it
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, she WILL disable dribbly betas that make half-assed attempts which they manage to fend off.
mircea_popescu: notably, no female monkey that's been raped, even if regularly and consistently, ever attacks the rapist.
mircea_popescu: it's not revenge and it's not cheating, it's "you're too shitty to reproduce". a sensor they do have in their brain, and which is being so deeply downregulated to live in teh civilised world, it starts firing randomly.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242093 << for the record, "revenge" "cxheated" etc is bullshit. female monkeys genitally injure beta males. usually by biting.
mircea_popescu: "AND THIS IS FOR THE PAPERCLIP!!!1"
mircea_popescu: don't shoot mikey, we're not disparaging windows. just the users. k ?
ascii_field: the canonical: 'one day, a bullet hit stierlitz in the head. "a hollow-point, must be!", thought stierlitz, scatter-brained'
mircea_popescu: in all the cases of murdered wise men, is "i wish they had first bothered to know who the fuck i was".
mircea_popescu: and this is not nearly as contrived as it may seem. the one wish that will come up if you actually are a necromancer and can speak with the dead
mircea_popescu: the last thing you hear is "fucking shit, excuse me, miss. i thought he was someone else."
mircea_popescu: so you kiss at which point a dude opens the door, pulls out a shotgun and blows your brains away.
mircea_popescu: lemme show you. suppose you go by a diner in wash, and inside see the most beautiful girl ever
mircea_popescu: now, maybe they are aware and use windows for impenetrable reasons, to which i don't got much to say.
mircea_popescu: this "not retarded just unaware" is nonsense. that they're unaware is the proof of their retardation.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla sex dun matter. the entire thing was "male curiosity is the same thing that makes the male sex drive".
kakobrekla: how do you know the sex of my machine?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: computers are less annoying than most women these men would say.
mircea_popescu: no. the statistics are that young males spend more time with computers than with women.
mircea_popescu: "this guy looks like his next door neighbour rather than his father ergo inheritance is wrong"
mircea_popescu: jurov "use" is not really the word there, and plenty of people we did or do hold in high esteem don't know how to use computers, or got a war wound.
btcdrak: I'm on a google hangout with them right now, just checking.
mircea_popescu: iirc some guy here was doing some pro bono work for the,
btcdrak: mircea_popescu do you know the guys at quedex.net?
mircea_popescu: punkman there are good (and mathematical provable) reasons for which tx fees will never in average exceed ~0.001
mircea_popescu: most of the regularization of the tx price of bitcoin will be done by usd being forced to devaluate in comparison
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 18:29:04; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242070 << yeah, and many people derping around "pua" conferences aren't retarded, just unaware there's better ways to relate to women.
punkman: I'll just send you the priv keys, "you move it"
mircea_popescu: because steak isn't that. and so... $5k a transaction is no big deal. if you don't care to have your shit verified by the entire world, go send a wire, at $500 or w/e it will be by then
mircea_popescu: so, no, the price of steak is not going to be considered by comparison to "price of food" defined as "mcshitty menu".
mircea_popescu: the reason is that bitcoin tx offers some specific services neither visa nor wire offer.
mike_c: "The fact that the XT fork hasn't occurred yet is ridiculous," CoinWallet said. << I do so love the tears of rage and frustration.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to the expensive topic : it is an inconvenient but nevertheless incontrovertible fact that the price point for bitcoin tx is VASTLY above the pricepoint for "visa tx" or "bank tx".
mircea_popescu: "yeah... like everywhere else ? the us got rich by being a republic, not by being a democracy. the soviets got rich under tyranny and then the demobureau fucked it up"
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, the money got here specifically because undemocratic"
mircea_popescu: there's all this money here. let's democratic it.
mircea_popescu: clearly bitcoin government is bad and they should hold a vote.
mircea_popescu: well... the government of the us is paying them to derp on reddit. why is the government of bitcoin not paying them to use bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: this'd be the definition of retarded neh ?
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 11:47:11; jurov: many ppl using windows are not retards, just completely unaware there's a better way to use a computer
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242070 << yeah, and many people derping around "pua" conferences aren't retarded, just unaware there's better ways to relate to women.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 11:41:25; kakobrekla: anyway, a tool can be retarded, its the very definition of it ; "you are a such a tool". see?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242062 << you are such a tool means that you don't act of your own retardation. this is the worst insult known to usian.
mircea_popescu: i heard the same thing.
ascii_field: (it was still pretty heavy on the retardation, but not an outright maculature)
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: recently, for lulz, i collected warez scans of every published book i could find with 'bitcoin' in the title
mircea_popescu: lmao all the fucktarded jokes. "who makes the byline of a crypto book start with the workd unlocking?" "o'reilly executives"
mircea_popescu: in the spirit of punkmans', http://33.media.tumblr.com/88a6aa4de7e4fdb7df6b8679ec5768de/tumblr_nbwyl50pxz1tas0xfo1_400.gif
punkman: get up, get out, you lazy lout // get into your working clothes // up to your knees in oil and grease // and a grindstone to your nose
chetty: <ascii_field> kakobrekla: idk, dropping bullion from a nuke bomber with fighter escort, flying through five usg vassal states, probably ought to cost more// isnt that the same thing?
kakobrekla: really it prolly should be more expensive than _ANY_ other way of paying.
ascii_field: then again, ~threatening~ to spam is... free
punkman: at the acting
kakobrekla: stress network meh, thanks for derping in the history of everything forever and no way they heard of testnet.
pete_dushenski: btcdrak: tis in the logs
btcdrak: 30day backlog "stress test" on the way http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/coinwallet-plans-bitcoin-dust-attack-september-create-30-day-transaction-backlog-1515981
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pete_dushenski: http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2015/aug/14/china-deserted-amusement-parks-stefano-cerio << china in the "off season"
pete_dushenski: "if you call the library's IOServiceOpen function with an invalid owningTask parameter, a kernel-level IOUserClient will be passed a NULL pointer for the calling task. This pointer makes its way through more of the OS and is used to locate a variable in memory where a bit is set. By controlling the page of memory at address zero, an attacker can direct where these bits are set, and thus manipulate the kernel's m
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lobbes: ;;later tell asciilifeform regarding lobbesbot; I am going to try 'upgrading' my bot to a more recent fork. According to #supybot, there was a rewrite of the RSS plugin that *should* address that issue of ratcheting back
pete_dushenski: "Gavin has done more for bitcoin in a few years than you could do in a life time. 2003 128mb in my phone, 2006 1Gb on my phone. 2010 32gb on my phone, 2015, 64 gb on my phone. And your telling me raising the block size limit from 1 to 20 mb is an issue?"
pete_dushenski: *mush heathens MUSH*
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 02:55:17; wilbns: mats: people will be employed to execute roles in cyberspace. telecommuting and working from home is the first step.
pete_dushenski: now i know where the banana troll is from.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242003 << someone was quick on their feet. i had this up as a header for maaaybe a few days. really more like a day or two.
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