trinque: am I wrong in understanding that there is still a considerable Russian military?
funkenstein_: trinque, one possibility: if no more paycheck people will just walk away, sell off the gear
trinque: whether or not ISIS controls Iraq is not the same question as whether they can destroy the United States
trinque: I would really like to understand this logic by which the entire US military vanishes, rather than at worst being handed down as an heirloom
trinque: and mind I'm not particularly thrilled at the thought
trinque: the USA has done total war before, even if it's been a while
trinque: and all the rest
mats: their influence and wealth is transnational
trinque: mats: some kind of "muslim unity" thing against the USA could very well happen
mats: ISIS doesn't benefit from the allegiance of any nation state, and nor do i expect any to give it
punkman: funkenstein_: and they even have an antique car museum
funkenstein_: forbes piece is nice in admitting the 1st priority of a university: real estate developer
trinque: or "wake me up when" they strike a deal with Russia
punkman: mats, aren't they already battling?
trinque: at that point I could believe that they're an actual threat, in that not they, but the actual other superpower, is a threat
mats: e.g. the kurds, shia
trinque: were I an ISIS, I would look for a large ally that was not the USA
mats: USG will attempt to parlay another group into battle against ISIS
funkenstein_: the "president" tv show seems mostly produced for foreign consumption, kinda like friends or baywatch
trinque: seems about the same size
trinque: if something poses an "existential" threat to the USA, what do you think will happen?
trinque: it's been trying to manipulate countries into this or that state with the military
trinque: they can knock down a few buildings at best
trinque: whether it's possible to solve that problme from the position of "US president" is questionable
trinque: you know, I find it sensible that he's focusing on Mexico as a threat rather than something like ISIS
lobbes: wouldn't their ancestors have been brought in the country 'legally'; i.e as property? good point though..
trinque: though I suppose he means something smaller, getting the courts to reinterpret it
trinque: if the 14th amendment were removed via another amendment, what of the descendents of slaves?
lobbes: I wonder where the Trump stands on 'greencard marriages'; another loophole he'd have to close to make that plan work
phf: ascii_field: i've tried reproducing the leak, but so far it looks like so according to my small test, mapTransactions.clear() should just work. http://glyf.org/tmp/foo.cpp.html there's a bunch of copy allocations that get cleaned up, but you'll notice when foo.clear() is called that picks up the leftover objects.
lobbes: I've yet to meet someone that doesn't enjoy The Doors. great combination of musicians
shinohai: <3 The Doors
trinque: wow, in re-reading the lyrics, more relevant than I even intended.
punkman: "In 2009 four former AAU admissions staffers filed a whistle-blower suit in federal district court in Oakland, claiming the school had illegally adjusted recruiters’ pay based on the number of students they enrolled. AAU, which declined to comment on the lawsuit, said in court filings that the compensation scheme was then legal under a “safe harbor” loophole because it also considered qualitative factors."
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 18:22:25; punkman: "One of the biggest blows to the for-profit education sector came in April, when Corinthian Colleges, based in Santa Ana, Calif., shut down and filed for bankruptcy. At its peak it had 81,000 students across 111 campuses. It closed after the Department of Education fined it $30 million and cut off student aid because it had misrepresented job-placement rates at subsidiary Heald College."
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1244081 << wake me up when they close mit, yale, stanford.
ascii_field: eventually the chumps notice that the cheap and expensive psychics 'tell the future' exactly equally
trinque: they... "lied".
trinque: in the next world, you'll have to say "lied"
ascii_field: the ancient maxim, as retold by mircea_popescu, 'when hiring a psychic, hire the cheapest'. but the expensive psychic is liable to walk over to the cheapest and shoot the poor fella
punkman: "One of the biggest blows to the for-profit education sector came in April, when Corinthian Colleges, based in Santa Ana, Calif., shut down and filed for bankruptcy. At its peak it had 81,000 students across 111 campuses. It closed after the Department of Education fined it $30 million and cut off student aid because it had misrepresented job-placement rates at subsidiary Heald College."
ascii_field: and therefore have been marked for gassing.
ascii_field: other thing is, the 'art college of art' chumpatronic sector has been edging into competition with the officially-blessed prestige-sellers
ascii_field: punkman: classic usg expose. 'let's pick on a usgwot-marginal scamatron, deflect fire from the main ones'
trinque: punkman: it's a filter; only the dumb pass through
punkman: http://www.forbes.com/sites/katiasavchuk/2015/08/19/black-arts-the-800-million-family-selling-art-degrees-and-false-hopes/
thestringpuller: danielpbarron: i see. I wonder if that guy made good on the bounty.
mircea_popescu: trinque in the conditional.
assbot: Logged on 16-07-2015 22:27:33; mircea_popescu: ~that~ is what the hoard is for.
ascii_field: as i understand, 'satoshi' is nor a moral authority, but a shotgun authority. and that shotgun is still locked in the safe, rusting
trinque: really sad thing there, culturally
trinque: whereas they were before trying to argue that of course he'd support bigger blocks
trinque: not that it matters, but since I haven't been looking, I wonder if reddit has completely turned on satoshi by now, in favor of the power rangers
mircea_popescu: the entire "blockchain voting" thing is bunk of the first degree anyway, as the power rangered sponsored fiasco with the most recent fork shows.
ascii_field: naggum had a perfectly valid point re: cpp bearing much of the proximate blame for microshit code being what it is
punkman: "STL containers may copy objects around in the process of doing assignment"
jurov: if you did only field = blabla() then...idk :D
jurov: if you did field = new blabla() the yes
jurov: in short, playing with c++ with objects oon the stack directly is asking to lose one's fingers
mircea_popescu: <trinque> I feel happy! << sounds to me like a cry for help. can we do anything for the gent today ?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> jurov: my point was that cpp allows considerable variance between what is printed on the page and what the code actually generated is. << to make it plain ; just because c let you push her into a corner once or twice (provided you bring sweets) doesn't mean they're not sluts mmkay ?
jurov: trinque: if feeling like messing with it further, try adding copy constructor w/logging, or pass pointers/references instead, etc.
thestringpuller: http://qntra.net/2015/08/no-xtcoin-support-committed-to-the-blockchain-yet/#comment-43373 << Slush's pool is now mining XT- blocks
jurov: and then obv destroys evey one
jurov: trinque seeing the code i think it just copies your "a" object multiple times
ascii_field: jurov: my point was that cpp allows considerable variance between what is printed on the page and what the code actually generated is.
ascii_field: now try getting similarly compact description in a cpp proggy re: e.g., the map issue.
ascii_field: and when a situation like this does come up, a civilized compiler (there is ONLY ONE known, gcc) ~will~ give you useful info re: types
ascii_field: that is why i said, ~the language~)
ascii_field: jurov: don't use the undefined. (note that i specifically said 'c', rather than 'unix' here)
mircea_popescu: "come to america - where coca cola has created christmas and the government has created democracy!"
mircea_popescu: like the difference between a) linkspamming google and b) a bunch of "infoproducts" on "make money while you sleep" having been sold to the retard forums.
mircea_popescu: it's a very specific thing when a large body of idiots finally implements something for the idiots to do.
mircea_popescu: the kneejerk, field-manual shape of it.
mircea_popescu: and on a broader point ; post snowden, seems the usg added a new thing to their manual.
mircea_popescu: yeah, who is that twerp again ? seems a rehash o\f the entire "twobitidiot" hangout.
mircea_popescu: people have spent so much time enjoying the company of computers, for it,.
mircea_popescu: in the end, it was not the ai lab and lisp that provided the best approximation of a computer companion.
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 17:09:51; phf: <ascii_field> invalidates the iterator << wouldn't that just leave a map full of pointers to free'd memory, why would delete on an instance touch the container?
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243953 << understand that naggum's point re: c++ being a language 'built and optimized by and for liars' is entirely true. what you see written on the page is not what you get! whole thing is built to lie to you.
ascii_field: phf: try it. you get a segfault on the second free
phf: <ascii_field> invalidates the iterator << wouldn't that just leave a map full of pointers to free'd memory, why would delete on an instance touch the container?
mircea_popescu: your window experiment is perhaps the worstly conducted experiment in the history of b-a.
ascii_field: but i have occasion to think about it whenever i hear mircea_popescu's hypothesis re: how 'they' are losing to 'us' in some sense
ascii_field: this picture normally fades into the background, as i've lived all of my adult life here in 'land of the warehouse'
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: understand, my exposure happens every time i sit in traffic next to their mazeratis, and drive home past 100km of their mansions
mircea_popescu: go, meet some of these "executives".
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 16:55:13; mircea_popescu: no, best is for them to marry usg twerps and live out the rest of their lives, warehoused in maryland.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243924 << the one thing we're pretty much guaranteed not to see - like orwell's 'jingo with a bullet hole in him' - is one of the 'executive' twerps sweating in a cubicle, sleeping not-at-all-ad-libitum, living in a verminous flat with roommates
mats: oh. well, she asked another employee for help, so i'm almost 100% sure it wasn't a play.
ascii_field: needs no other.
mircea_popescu: but only for this reason and no other.
mircea_popescu: which is how and why the su had no trouble at all recruiting agents in the us. even though, in any sense of summary view, it made jack shit sense of some people living in abundence to confederate with some idiots powering the empire of ideologically driven poverty.
mircea_popescu: and the fact that there's someone else at the end of the line, not merely listening but actively seeking that truth, is what drives the profession.
mircea_popescu: but yes, re the smarts bit : what distinguishes an agent undercover in shit from a housewife made out of straight shit, is that the former has, however tenuous, however rare, a place to speak the truth straight. radically so, as the case may be.
mircea_popescu: no, best is for them to marry usg twerps and live out the rest of their lives, warehoused in maryland.
ascii_field: now if only they were running a reactor, or a military engagement, and were now dead
mircea_popescu: more like "the world exists to cater to me and so it SHOULD be the case this unhappened".
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 16:14:37; mircea_popescu: not a word about how the company in question lied to an' defrauded its "customers". not like they're about to tar and feather bitlove llc or etc.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243877 << they're still living in the 'we pushed the unhappen button and it unhappened, motherfuckerz' universe
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 16:26:51; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps the 'smart women' are the ones who sign up for free house and good food in cambridge, MA, sponsored by idiot usg < one is not smart who must eternal lie, and with strange eons even smarts may die.
mircea_popescu: and to illustrate that "women on heels > any other women" point, http://40.media.tumblr.com/492f8f1ab819efdd19fa683e186d4b4c/tumblr_nq34ifAzsi1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 15:40:35; phf: thestringpuller: you should try patching that patch, by adding http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/map/map/begin/, for(...) { delete iter->second; } for mapTransactions and mapNextTx in the JettisonMempool function. seems like an easy fix, i don't have my env setup at the moment
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243849 << no go! this invalidates the iterator
mircea_popescu: * asciilifeform bbl <<< ran into similar issues with eulora. the thing is, as inconvenient as that may be, there's no actual alternative.
mats: there was a chick who looked 17 that took 5-10s to figure out $10-3.50=6.50 wtf is goin on here
mircea_popescu: anyway, she's clearly as dumb as that polyanna chick, or as boiled frogs, whichever you prefer. she looks like a marginal stripper at best. so yes, given her meagre assets, certainly living the soccer mom life of a wife of some usg twerp is much better than living the stripper life of her mates.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> perhaps the 'smart women' are the ones who sign up for free house and good food in cambridge, MA, sponsored by idiot usg < one is not smart who must eternal lie, and with strange eons even smarts may die.
mircea_popescu has absolutely no trust left in the value or importance of "the internet community". serving it is not unlike serving cockroaches.
mircea_popescu: a terrabyte's not expensive or anything. on the other hand, i'm sure i could burn an infinite amount of resources feeding the idle internet twerps.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if not, why not ? << because we aren't the usg of internet. here's how the hackerteam stuff looks, by the way : http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/bw-hackerteam.png
mircea_popescu: "Hey, I know you're trying to make a point and all, but do you mind removing me from the list?" then, now AND 4EVAR!!11
mircea_popescu: not a word about how the company in question lied to an' defrauded its "customers". not like they're about to tar and feather bitlove llc or etc.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i actually enjoy the butthurt tears of the jwz twerps. "oh, we can't pretend nothing happened now ?!?!?! hurrrrrr"
mircea_popescu: well apparently you're missing a fundamental life experience that's integral to understanding a swathe of humor!
punkman: haven't had the pleasure
mircea_popescu: dude... your wife is cheating on you. with me. ain't jack shit you can d oabout it, now go put on those panties she bought you and wash the fucking dishes.
punkman: someone needs to explain the bikini wax joke to me
mircea_popescu: "he data needs to be treated as sensitive and not available to the masses"
phf: thestringpuller: you should try patching that patch, by adding http://www.cplusplus.com/reference/map/map/begin/, for(...) { delete iter->second; } for mapTransactions and mapNextTx in the JettisonMempool function. seems like an easy fix, i don't have my env setup at the moment
phf: but then a stackoverflow answer says that std::map doesn't manage, and require for(...) delete iter->second;
phf: odd because map::clear documentation says "Removes all elements from the map container (which are destroyed)"
thestringpuller: i too am interested in the memory footprint and any potential leaks etc.
thestringpuller: just reading the patches.
thestringpuller: mod6: my bad BingoBoingo informed me of the data structure idiocy
mod6: <+thestringpuller> the intent is to jettison the entire pool? (hopefully I'm reading the patch correctly). mod6 informed me of the boost datastructure idiocy << wait, wat?!
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 14:32:04; asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this patch does not work as described, on account of boost idiocy (removal of items from the hash does not invoke their destructures! believe)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243747 << does mircea_popescu remember the thread about the fight of monkey vs man ? and whether the man is necessarily smarter, if cannot win. i dare say this applies here. perhaps the 'smart women' are the ones who sign up for free house and good food in cambridge, MA, sponsored by idiot usg
asciilifeform: does each one of the 50 muppets get a fed-backed altcoin ?
asciilifeform: 'Consensus 2015 is working with MIT Media Lab's Digital Currency Initiative to boost diversity in the cryptocurrency space by offering 50 Consensus Scholarships to young women and people of colour.' << glorious
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 08:38:36; mircea_popescu: ftr they have been available for a week or so.
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 14:34:40; thestringpuller: ah. it's a first step to mempool filtering once boost actually jettison's and poops the unwanted data, freeing memory.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-08-2015#1243805 << 'even root'. what nonsense is this. root isn't root if he can't, e.g., operate a dma-capable device on the bus and flip arbitrary bits
thestringpuller: ah. it's a first step to mempool filtering once boost actually jettison's and poops the unwanted data, freeing memory.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: must understand, this was intended solely for laboratory purposes
thestringpuller: the intent is to jettison the entire pool? (hopefully I'm reading the patch correctly). mod6 informed me of the boost datastructure idiocy
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: at some point i will write a working version of it.
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: this patch does not work as described, on account of boost idiocy (removal of items from the hash does not invoke their destructures! believe)
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asciilifeform: http://www.troyhunt.com/2015/07/heres-how-im-going-to-handle-ashley.html << watch the 'responsible disclosure' twerps stuff head farther than ever thought possible up own arse
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: what ended up happening with this patch? << http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150803/asciilifeform_jettison_mempool_195c600991e7306b0f21eddd834b38b9301cf12b.patch
asciilifeform: mats: folks were getting wise to the old-fashioned diddled boot sector. therefore, this.
assbot: Logged on 12-08-2015 21:41:42; ascii_field: 'nstead, a file called "wpbbin.exe" was placed in C:\windows\system32 and executed. That turns out to be a method Microsoft introduced with Windows 8 to allow the BIOS to execute code on boot up (!?!) called "Windows Platform Binary Table (WPBT)". I can find almost NOTHING about this anywhere on the internet except a single document on Microsoft's website (link to the Google Cache since it's a .docx fil
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mircea_popescu: ftr they have been available for a week or so.
shinohai: http://qntra.net/2015/08/coinwallet-plans-spam-while-the-spamming-is-cheap/#comment-43287 <<< top kek BingoBoingo
pete_dushenski: bringing up the rear !
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242457 << nah. i'm just getting closer to the age you were when you penned that one
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 19:23:56; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242168 << it is, lol. check out the idiot. 3 years, up 64x. 4 more years, up 32x. 5 more years, up 2x.
mircea_popescu: o right right, because in their alt-reality it's not really the bitcoin, it's "the blockchain technologee". nearly forgot.
mircea_popescu: punkman that's the sort of anarcho-patriarchist attitude that keeps women down under tech and stuff.
punkman lost the plot
pete_dushenski: she was the one who married the beast, who turned out to be an enchanted prince, who turned out to be an fbi agent
mircea_popescu: memory fails me. but i'm sure nobody on twitter is nevertheless a major force in things and such.
mircea_popescu: that's not right either. was she the inventor of savarines ? which were then named after her ?
mircea_popescu: no no wait. she was on the ship that discovered antarctica. which is why it was called antartibelle. right ?
mircea_popescu: i feel very confused, because i thought the anon derp in question was really part of the team that arrested miloshevich
pete_dushenski: the agent is... her husband
mircea_popescu: demo-craci. based on the happenstance that the way you say "ankles to ears" in romanian is "umeri-craci"
punkman: http://www.coindesk.com/events/consensus-2015/ that's even better than the "scalability workshops"
punkman: "This email is to notify that your following domains have been automatically renewed as per your request and the amount was debited from your Credit Card" oh nice, can't keep spending the bitcoins here
assbot: Logged on 20-07-2014 21:36:28; mircea_popescu: http://www.theonion.com/articles/openminded-man-grimly-realizes-how-much-life-hes-w,19273/ << the end of fucking days, when the parody sites are more truthful than the "serious" networks.
pete_dushenski: “Nearly every person I worked with, I saw cry at their desk.”
pete_dushenski: "Many of the newcomers filing in on Mondays may not be there in a few years. The company’s winners dream up innovations that they roll out to a quarter-billion customers and accrue small fortunes in soaring stock. Losers leave or are fired in annual cullings of the staff — “purposeful Darwinism,”"
mike_c: if they published x articles
mike_c: you offered to pay them
mircea_popescu: i don't readily recall anything of theirs. what was funniest ?
mike_c: and the domain is dead
mike_c: aww, doesn't look like it. too bad, they were funny
mircea_popescu: punkman amusingly, reviewing the (little) record from the 1700s, what the turks wanted from turkish part of romania was : a) sheep ; b) women. a distant 3rd, wax and honey.
mircea_popescu: the goat-to-btc atm.
mircea_popescu: yeah, right. because they're going to pay in goats.
pete_dushenski: one side: scammers, other side:...
pete_dushenski: bi "A bitcoin civil war is threatening to tear the digital currency in two"
mircea_popescu: i kinda have a lulz reading the stuff now and again, but yeah, too much can readily bristle one.
punkman: Vox: "Bitcoin is on the verge of a constitutional crisis"
mircea_popescu: not like you have to read the fishwrappers.
mike_c: yeah, i'm just too tired to keep even keel. they are annoying me today. just stop fucking with it so we can do some useful things.
mircea_popescu: if only bitfinex was worth twoi shits, and the planned price movement caught on, and all the alt-articles they tabled could have been published. aww what a glorious day could have been.
mike_c: this terminology.. how is yet another altcoin a hard fork
mircea_popescu recalls how excited they were over this, a year ago. almost looked like it's a thing that matters, to hear them talk.
punkman: Guardian: "Bitcoin's forked: chief scientist launches alternative proposal for the currency"
pete_dushenski: bi, vox, economist, everyone's takin' their potshots
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-08-2015#1242024 <<< nope, 4chan is a sjw safe place these days
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: ;;later tell bitstein ofn, i published an article on that like a month ago, not sure why it is back in the news cycle again
punkman: yes that's the only reason I keep mentioning the greek situation. Tomorrow it's gonna be you.
mircea_popescu: there's truly no curing human idiocy. butcher them and lay em out in the sun is the only cure.
mircea_popescu: and even today, there's people with dollars in us banks etc.
mircea_popescu: the thing is... even after that cyprus thing, there were still peopel thick enough to keep money in greek banks.
punkman: "As part of the deal, BoC absorbed the loans and insured deposits of Laiki, formerly the second-biggest bank, after its uninsured deposits had been comprehensively bailed in. The new bank was then recapitalised by converting 47.5% of BoC’s uninsured deposits into equity."
mircea_popescu: punkman and they're derping about for a few weeks while people can get a few hundreds out so the poor people can slowly leech their accounts during the interval.
assbot: Time for Europe to repeal the US-backed AML crap. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1J3esew )
brg444: Hi pete. What qualifies as new in that case? It is one I created a few months ago following the instructions on your blog..
mircea_popescu: they're still negotiating it, obviously, which is why the rule. but i doubt it'll be under 70%.
mircea_popescu: writing's on the wall, you'll get "stabilized".
pete_dushenski: 'We conduct our business in a way that protects the blockchain against plurality attacks, and our planet's climate against warming. We hope you'll join us.'
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: time to inform mr and mrs old timey derpminers, the qntra ones
mircea_popescu: brg444 see the chapter called "first steps"
mircea_popescu: "Connections are made over clearnet even when using a proxy or onlynet=tor, which leaks connections on the P2P network with the real location of the node. Knowledge of this traffic along with uptime metrics from bitnodes.io can allow observers to easily correlate the location and identity of persons running Shitcoin-XT nodes."
punkman: pete_dushenski: I doubt they have any serious qty
mircea_popescu: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010379.html << pretty fucking hysterical, how dumb these schmucks are.
mircea_popescu: kudos to the shitdev team!
punkman: the only local traders I've found so far want 300-400eur per coin :/
mircea_popescu: so shitcoin-xt is built to run on windows 10 natively i gather ?
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mircea_popescu: mike_c http://trilema.com/2015/so-the-broomstick-fired/ << your memo.
mircea_popescu: seems it does each about 50% of the time.
brg444: mircea_popescu I happen to have misplaced the email pertinent my trilema.com information access. what would be standard procedure to retrieve said password?