trinque: mircea_popescu | texans would prolly ally with the invader if the invader bitchslaped california harsly enough << this is a fair point, and drives home all the rest.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/562ac2236fcaadfa4772643e97bdfe09/tumblr_nq30unWHdb1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg
asciilifeform: ument panel falling off in flight. The weapons also dealt extensive collateral damage, as the sheer numbers of fragments from detonating shells was sufficient to damage aircraft flying within a 200 meter radius from the impact center, including the aircraft firing.' << l0l
asciilifeform: 'The airframe vibration led to fatigue cracks in fuel tanks, numerous radio and avionics failures, the necessity of using runways with floodlights for night flights (as the landing lights would often be destroyed), tearing or jamming of the forward landing gear doors (leading to at least three crash landings), cracking of the reflector gunsight, an accidental jettisoning of the cockpit canopy and at least one case of the instr
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, has ever existed a worse failure than the GSh-6-30
BingoBoingo: No, that's the AC-130
asciilifeform: 'puff the magic dragon'
mircea_popescu: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/21/legendary-10-warthog-sends-isis-fleeing-even-as-it-faces-pentagon-cuts/ in other news.
mircea_popescu: rinque>my understanding was that everything we did in the 20th century involved the rape of other countries << kick that dem-socialist coolaid srsly.
asciilifeform: y expectation that words string together into anything other than a noisy flow, and in no case does any notion occur to bother them that perhaps words carry the future in any sense.' << where is this ~not~ the case ?
asciilifeform: 'Meanwhile in a cattle herd inhabiting an endless plain, the strictures of speech as a regulator of human activity do not exist per se. Argentines do not speak like you and me, Argentines bleat and bark like your sheep and dogs. They appreciate the loudness, the sudden quality, the melodicity, the formal "propriety" of speech much like a parrot judges another parrot's noises. They do not however comprehend, nor do they have an
mircea_popescu: otherwise what, "bravery to me is X" "oh, you mean pissing ? because X pissed at a certain point in time!"
asciilifeform: then sure.
asciilifeform: and hasn't overseen others program since perhaps '05
mircea_popescu: neither has anyone else.
asciilifeform: the fella who hasn't programmed since what, '95 ?
mircea_popescu: the word programmer, to me, is chiefly synonymous with rms.
mircea_popescu: in africa doctor is more or less synonymous with shaman, what the fuck light does that throw on any discussion
asciilifeform: sorta like the word 'programmer' to mircea_popescu is synonymous with mark karpeles
mircea_popescu: nevertheless!!!!
assbot: Nick Szabo on Twitter: "What happens when the managers and investors ignore the engineers and scientists .. . " : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1fqi95w )
asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hn8r4/nick_szabo_on_twitter_what_happens_when_the << moar from the filipinotron
mircea_popescu: no dude. not everyone's 14 when their battery runs down.
mircea_popescu: in the casino for the first time, and can only win, because mom had us with saint Winny.
asciilifeform: everybody's 14 when their battery runs down.
asciilifeform: sometimes, one even gets the 'old and new romanovs' in same physical package.
mircea_popescu: not like you're gonna try and argue THAT bunch of degenerates were the true namesakes.
mircea_popescu: (but i can bring same argument - hey, any PROPER romanovs the reds shot ?)
mircea_popescu: unlike in the case of the romanovs, by the 1940s time had already cleansed this bunch.
asciilifeform: 'Élisabeth de Rothschild (née de Chambure; a.k.a. Lili; March 9, 1902 - March 23, 1945) was a member by marriage of the wine-making branch of the Rothschild family.'
gribble: Life After the Holocaust: Blanka Rothschild: <http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007189>; Blanka Rothschild - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: <http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_oi.php?MediaId=2845&ModuleId=10007189>; Blanka Rothschild - United States Holocaust Memorial Museum: <http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/media_oi.php?MediaId=5945>
BingoBoingo: I seriously going to have to work on the no SPV allowed problem. Why should "/bitcoinj:0.12.3/Bitcoin Wallet:4.35-blackberry/" even think it ough to be service by my node
gribble: Élisabeth de Rothschild - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lisabeth_de_Rothschild>; Philippine de Rothschild - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_de_Rothschild>; Baroness Philippine de Rothschild - obituary - Telegraph: <http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11056866/Baroness-Philippine-de- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: they'd hold her down for you, too.
asciilifeform hearing of this for the first time
mircea_popescu: another thing nobody really wants to talk aboot.
asciilifeform: how many rothchilds in the camps ?
mircea_popescu: you can't build yourself a rich house as a fiftene year old stealing from your father and fencing the stuff.
asciilifeform: (zurich? antarctica? who the fuck cares)
asciilifeform: when their current host dies, they will decamp to wherever it is they have a welcome party
mircea_popescu: for the us.
asciilifeform: summed up to something like 'there's three barrels per man there, and they will all point at us'
mircea_popescu: merely because the ww2 cost the us less than it cost europe does not mean it wasn't costly.
asciilifeform: it is interesting to read the jp rationale for not attempting invasion or even saboteur ops on the u.s. continent in ww2
mircea_popescu: i'm sure they were all spies sent by stalin himself to lure the enemy into a false sense of confidence.
asciilifeform: incidentally, re: the latter, this is not spoken of much in soviet or even modern times, but when germans invaded, the barber shops near the front were packet. with gurlz.
mircea_popescu: texans would prolly ally with the invader if the invader bitchslaped california harsly enough
asciilifeform: uteri at the ready ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "usian" is a population. like the argentine cattle. not a nation.
asciilifeform: didn't we earlier 'there is no american' ?
mircea_popescu: yeah, he would. like the woman puts up resistence. with her uterus.
mircea_popescu: but the notion the usian will put up any sort of resistence, to any sort of invader, ofany kind come from anywhere...
mircea_popescu: it's the most pronounced in humans.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc, the behaviour is even more automatic and pronounced in certain fish
mircea_popescu: it had plenty of other choices, such as for instance, sitting around.
mircea_popescu: notrly. where the hell is that gif
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: question is, naturally, not 'whether rapist', but 'which'
mircea_popescu: the firmware in question is both dedicated and ubiquitous.
asciilifeform: dedicated firmware in play there, no ?
mircea_popescu: yes, but they have paradoxical reaction.
mircea_popescu: <trinque>and I would expect a military dictatorship period directly following the fall of usg << IF you can find a certain corporal in the army that will get badly defeated and who resents the coupla decades of peace which consist mostly of american teenagers being used as public toilets from rashapur to ankara, then yes, maybe, dictatorship.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mexicans are kinda lazy methinks. the arabs are more serious when they do it.
mircea_popescu: what do you think a military is, some sort of a country club ? it exists to obey orders. the orders atm are on the line of "scoring officers' sensitivity to inane nontopics"
mircea_popescu: <trinque>if there is not a single man inside the us military who can figure out something to do with even fragments of the thing, wtf? << you need to stop being racis.
mircea_popescu: <mats>militaries require competent leadership. when i say existential threat, i do not mean ISIS will march on DC << it doesn't want or need to march in dc. all it conceivably might want is to pull a rotherham over at vassar.
asciilifeform: nothing, that is, but open mouths. so you - close them.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: demand destruction is, approximately, the dekulakization one does for folks who have nothing
mircea_popescu: of the... daily mail ?!
BingoBoingo: Where is the editorial consistency?
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>trinque: the next major usg trend is 'demand destruction' << i suspect this is what 2015 stalin would have called dekulakization.
mircea_popescu: "the woman has her own tits!!1" mmmyeah ?
mircea_popescu: <trinque>the USA has its own oil reserves, many of which have barely been used << so does nigeria. wtf argument is this.
asciilifeform: mats: they were Officially (tm) (r) abolished in '90s
mircea_popescu: the future where russian military was like present day german military seemed the likelier eventuality in 1990.
asciilifeform: nothing but ~80% of the materiel ? l0l
mircea_popescu: much like the third reich military had no debts owed to weimar and generally was hitler's creation.
mircea_popescu: <trinque>am I wrong in understanding that there is still a considerable Russian military? << you are wrong in imagining there's any sort of continuity. present day russian military shares nothing at all with the one that ended, and is almost entirely putin's making.
asciilifeform: not the least.
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_>trinque, one possibility: if no more paycheck people will just walk away, sell off the gear << exactly how it went in russia heh.
mircea_popescu: sorta like one's curious to see the 2006 F1.
mircea_popescu: remember ? we lolled at it in these very logs.
mats: idea goes: we fight moar proxy wars and don't need so much line infantry, so we'll employ doorkickers and hire out to palantir and academi for the rest
mircea_popescu: in no way different than any other mental healthcare hospital, except it's larger and per-patient cheaper
mircea_popescu: <trinque>I would really like to understand this logic by which the entire US military vanishes << the "entrie us military" long ago vanished. it now consists of boys playing video games and girls playing the tomboy. that is not an army, it's a psycho patient support group.
mats: yeah seriously. the army, for instance, is being whittled down to nothing, which has been in the works since rumsfeld/bush
mircea_popescu: <trinque>we'll lose ground but there's a vast difference there << nobody has any incentive whatsoever to be "american". it's not even vaguely an identity. you might wish to be texan, maybe, liek some soviets wished to be russian. but otherwiose, being an iowan or a californian or a wisconsinian or generally an american is the epitome of fair weather friends : for as long as it pays to do so and no longer.
mircea_popescu: the last light shut off is in the office of the guy giving free housing to "needy" voters.
mircea_popescu: <trinque>the us military will be the last light shut off, not the first << looked at the budget past decade ?
mircea_popescu: <trinque>seems about the same size << the chechens are about the same size. the us is in no sense the same size as the su when it fell. this theory can be readily verified putting the country through the equivalent of the 90s, which is coming regardless.
mircea_popescu: <mats>ISIS is an existential threat at this point in time << he has a point. isis would be the first state actually outside of us policy since soviet russia.
mircea_popescu: trinque how do you know he means the part about immigrants and not the part about "the debt of the us shall not be questioned" ?
mircea_popescu: what nonsense is this! what'd the world do!
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>wake me up when they close mit << what, you mean THE PREMIERE something something INSTITUTION in THE WORLD!!! ?
mircea_popescu: the country of africa & middle east.
mircea_popescu: the middle east ? i forget.
mircea_popescu: they really should, once they're done fix bitcoin, go bring democracy to africa or what was it.
mircea_popescu: all the many things reddit's expertise shines upon.
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, we have yet another bleeting barn animal from anybarn, usa, derping impressively about things he's heard of, via movies.
mircea_popescu: lol. this entire "cheap suits" business has its comedic value. here's something you wouldn't know : while visiting here, ben_vulpes got to meet my tailor, on the grounds that we walked by his shop downtown and teh old jewish gentleman ran out to assure his dearly beloved mr popesco that his suit will be done in time.
bitcoinfailed: you want something with high armholes so when you lift your arms the entire thing doesnt lift off your shoulders
bitcoinfailed: just wanted to point out its time to lose the cheap suits
trinque: anyhow, was just responding to the request for deedbotting
trinque: either way, title doesn't matter for zee bot
ascii_field: but this particular gambit is working, mass sell floods (or simulacra thereof) pretty much everywhere
ascii_field: 'cause historical graphs for spreads don't usually have room below the zero
ascii_field: snapshotted the 'crossed wires' for posterity
bitcoinfailed: you fall for doug casey's recommendation of the place
ascii_field: guess they decided that a very low resistor is safer than a dead short
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they're at it again. because apparently didn't have enough last time
ascii_field: punkman: already done with the credit card scam thing
punkman: "1) make web app claiming to check if someone's deets were in the Ashley Madison DB 2) harvest this new list of philanderers to blackmail"
punkman: "Truth is, this service never quite delivered on their promise. When my last two startups closed shop, it took shutdownify over 3 days to process the first one, and the second was still a full two days to get up and running. At that point I could have just put together a page myself. It didn't help that they rewrote their tech stack from Ruby to Node even as they were trying to find customers. "
BingoBoingo: In the hallowed halls dedicated to hallowed hall where songs were sang of songs once sang
mircea_popescu: did you also call the m,useum of modern art ?
ascii_field: of these instructions includes AES-GCM (Advanced
ascii_field: instructions are specific to accelerate the FIPS Publication
ascii_field: Mode (dependent upon finite field multiplication), the six AES
ascii_field: by six AES centric instructions. While the intended use of
ascii_field: CLMUL is used to perform the carry-less multiplication of an
ascii_field: 'The PCLMULQDQ instruction Intel introduced in 2009
ascii_field: plain sight in the sense that your dna is.
punkman: YC should have acquired them :P
punkman: "We knew when we started Shutdownify that its business model was risky, since many of our clients had already run out of money and were in the process of dissolving their companies."
mircea_popescu: ascii_field well, a man can't really ask (nor should really ask) for more than to be on the wrong side of the major battles of his time.
mircea_popescu: phf nah, it means, "told you they're going to lose the war - already out of bullets!"
ascii_field: and is part of the overall 'diddled crypto' campaign since clinton
ascii_field: re: intel: thing is, usg economizes. why con folks into using diddled cpu, if they can be persuaded to run winblowz 10 ?
ascii_field: phf: qemu, l0l! then wait century for block verify
trinque: I recall because that's what he said in response to asking whether he was guilty of w/e chargers
phf: ascii_field: hey, we won't even have to write an op_sigverify for qemu deployment, they'd do it for us
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: they'll frame it as 'just like mining!' too. 'why did you expect to be able to use 2009 pc for a node!111 you wouldn't try to cpu-mine,' aha
mircea_popescu: "oh, they won't be really USED yet. we just want it for when intel finally comes out wiht the chip and we can push it - not before"
mircea_popescu: in fact, making "intel the only way to run bitcoin node" is the biggest strategic gain usg can hope for atm.
mircea_popescu: the time i consider changing off rsa is a time after i've taken a piss on the ruins of the white house.
ascii_field: good enough. it'll offload the scratch storage for the elliptic grind to dedicated sram
mircea_popescu: and no, they don't get to uise the "quantum" gimmick to push ecc against rsa. like they didn't manage the past three or four gimmicks.
ascii_field: it'll be in the next instruction addendum
ascii_field: (the nsa elliptic curve memo)
mircea_popescu: well no, they gotta work.
ascii_field: it'll be rolled into the 2017 intel shitentium or whatnot
ascii_field: for them, not expensive at all
mircea_popescu: well... in the sense that finding a girlfriend is cheaper than building a submarine in the garage, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: the effort so far is unimpressive.
assbot: Logged on 18-08-2015 18:45:59; ascii_field: the canonical: 'one day, a bullet hit stierlitz in the head. "a hollow-point, must be!", thought stierlitz, scatter-brained'
ascii_field: and the asphalt
ascii_field: but to help it explore the back of his car
ascii_field: was there any genuine doubt in any genuine head that the mega-blox was a bullet for bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: forget everything. there's not going to be larger l2 caches.
ascii_field: (on other occasions, because my arse)
mircea_popescu: it might be the DISK cache, i guess
mircea_popescu: in any case, comercially available home computers do not seem capable to verify full 8mb blocks six to the hour.
mircea_popescu: and back to the blocks issue : i've had a number of tests on various platforms. it would seem that time to verify blocks does not in fact scale liniarly with the block size.
mircea_popescu: (m l crassus, for the innocent)
mircea_popescu: but i would propose the actual case study for healthcare economics is... roman firefighting.
mircea_popescu: the major challenge with the healthcare is keeping payments fair (which really simply means meaningful).
ascii_field: recalling barnum's canonical 'sucker is born every minute, and two to take him' - can also add 'and two hundred and twenty two to visit the spot next day and smell the farts'
mircea_popescu: (got another one. 10 days now, that thing)
mircea_popescu: ascii_field ah with the quotes. yes,.
mircea_popescu: difficult, but on the overall possible, i believe wilbns
mircea_popescu: the only thing you can have is forcible rituals of passing, where the kids pay in flesh.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, /me does not belive "for profit" education can be a thing. you can have for-profit amorous relaitons, something the us claims to be down on. you can't have for-profit education. it is a fundamentally unprofitable activity.
ascii_field: and the lion will show hyena his place
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field> and therefore have been marked for gassing. <<< the other thing is, they had been doing fraud on a scale not seen since the credit unions.
ascii_field: the am leak is mega-lulzy
trinque: its true, there's not nearly enough pressure yet to see which structures will stand
ascii_field is not orlov and isn't paid by ru; hell, they won't even give him a passport
ascii_field: or if they shy away from shooting every harvard and yale graduate on their soil when the hour comes
ascii_field: for instance, see how these folks pissed themselves with rage when ru wouldn't give up its sole warm water port just because washington asked
assbot: Logged on 19-08-2015 19:50:57; trinque: china for example builds its *first* aircraft carrier, and people talk about the chinese being a military threat
trinque: this bias while understandable clouds the issue entirely
trinque: china for example builds its *first* aircraft carrier, and people talk about the chinese being a military threat
trinque: the missile launches work just fine
trinque: where all I'm saying is the 20th century's weapons are still there, and if the F35 doesn't work, this matters?
ascii_field: funkenstein_: don't confuse the freshly-usgificated su republics of 1991 with 'most folks'
funkenstein_: most folks will pay you to take them away
chetty: sure it does, it still has $$$ (as many as they can print)
trinque: chetty: that misses my point; I'm contradicting the claim that it doesn't still have a massive, throbbing cock with which to do so
ascii_field: vs the more subtle but destructive 'international law' and financial pyramid
chetty: <trinque> it takes no self-hate on my part to observe that the us raped and murdered throughout the 20th c// please to point to a first world country that didnt?
trinque: it takes no self-hate on my part to observe that the us raped and murdered throughout the 20th c
ascii_field: the folks inviting properly qualified minority female disabled folks to come to mit and write thesis on history of oppression by evil white males
ascii_field: chetty: the libertards are properly the 'repentance' arm of usg. what mr mold referred to as 'the cathedral'
ascii_field: the excuse of 'if we hadn't raped this chick, somebody else would have' is a nonstarter
ascii_field: chetty: the anglos being the authors of the global rapeatron, with themselves at the apex, earned the hate.
trinque: and to do otherwise would itself be a sort of exceptionalism
chetty: the only reason other nations didnt rape us is us had bigger stick, they happily rape each other all the time. Americans are not special and not worthy of special hates
trinque: the lowest guys already make postman wages
trinque: and rather well trained
trinque: it depends on whether the command structure in the militaristic side is decaying as badly as the civilian side
ascii_field: trinque: how about the other other space station? the one with 25 tonnes of trotyl and ball bearings
trinque: this all vanishes because somebody decided they wanted to do fundamentalist islam again
trinque: the one with nukes on it
ascii_field: trinque: they tried, with jp
trinque: the point is I don't think anyone sits back and thinks about "what happens with the *other* space station"
ascii_field: countdown to 'it wasn't rape!!11 they LIKED it!'
chetty: <trinque> my understanding was that everything we did in the 20th century involved the rape of other countries// great propaganda to make americans hate themselves
funkenstein_: on these topics i have found robert steele to be quite educational
ascii_field: trinque: have to understand that, to lizards, usa is also 'another country'
trinque: my understanding was that everything we did in the 20th century involved the rape of other countries
trinque: I am referring more to the conflicts not necessarily declared wars
ascii_field: trinque: at a certain point, there is a phase transition. where life is no longer about u.s. army's 'access to necessary resources to operate' but instead col. schmuckson's access to his mansion and cocaine
chetty: <trinque> given its whole mode in the 20th century was knocking countries over for their resources?// meme of renown
funkenstein_: you know just because we can put capital letters together doesn't mean they represent a coherently motivated thing
trinque: doesn't that apply to what USM would do generally in the aftermath?
trinque: ascii_field: recall the convo about my family's farm with its gas well?
trinque: and I would expect a military dictatorship period directly following the fall of usg
funkenstein_: trinque, it has always been my assumption that such folks a) have the gold b) move the drugs c) controls m0 presses
trinque: if there is not a single man inside the us military who can figure out something to do with even fragments of the thing, wtf?
ascii_field: trinque: the next major usg trend is 'demand destruction'
trinque: among other places
trinque: the USA has its own oil reserves, many of which have barely been used