asciilifeform: but my dosimeter is maxed out for the day, i won't be eating up any moar
thestringpuller: ^^^ yes the block chain will solve music piracy!
thestringpuller: "The Blockchain is may play a key role in the Music Industry. Revelator builds software that allows artists and record labels to manage, track and market their music all from one application. The company sees the blockchain as an opportunity to simplify music rights, which remain complicated and difficult to verify, with a new Intellectual Property (IP) management system that will allow artists to register their works on an imm
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: aha, mircea_popescu linked to that very same, earlier
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: this is reminiscient of the ICBIT MP exposed in 2012
asciilifeform: whole thing is a lul, worthy of nigerian sp4mz0rz, but apparently represents the official usg party line.
thestringpuller: At my first job, the devops team took an initiative to not copy paste, because people were copying root passwords into ssh logins. So they have this huge meeting about not copying pasting. And this one guy goes, "But there will always be copypaste"
copypaste: This news is delayed. Get access to this information before it is priced into the market with a real-time news feed for only $1.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu entomological sample, http://www.benzinga.com/news/15/08/5779058/bitcoin-flash-crashed-this-week << approximately a complete collection of ~everything but the actual truth~
punkman: was the sig good at least? :P
asciilifeform: punkman: your key does. but the SIGNATURE does not.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000150.html << FOR FUCKS SAKE which one of you is 'pub@extemporized' ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell jurov can we have an end to the filename mutilations on turdatron, please ??!@!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245340 << to quote stalin, 'they won't see this gold like they won't see their ears without a mirror.' even if (especially if) it is actually turned up.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245324 << ditto 'v.' i'm not ever writing anything that uses anything other than detached sigs in gpg.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 10:37:53; jurov: <stick`> miners themselves choose port to connect
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 09:02:17; punkman: the dash escaping GPG does works fine for me. the problem is clearsigning fucks with trailing spaces and whatnot
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245284 << yes. see the recent 'out of band' thread
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 08:23:38; punkman: "He began tapping on the wall between our stalls, asking why I wouldn’t respond, as if inter-stall conversation should be a totally normal, not disgusting means of communication."
asciilifeform: send the magic word to some poor schmuck
asciilifeform: phun phakt: RTL-SDR can be used to receive pager ('POCSAG') messages. naturally, any and all of them. if you only need to send one message, no need to actually buy a subscription...
asciilifeform: wire your t3rr0r1st4 thermonuke to a RTL-SDR listening on a silent and unused frequency, which you then transmit the codez on. 'n0body could have predicted!1111!!!!111'
asciilifeform: ... or cannibalism. (where? e.g., 'amazon kindle' device includes a 3g modem, with 'eternal' subscription, which can theoretically be removed and uncrippled)
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245238 << this is considerably more difficult than in most of the world. afaik you're stuck with industrial suppliers (who cater to electric meter firms, and similar)
kakobrekla: punkman> stray quotes where you add the color style < fixed but still slow neh ?
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 05:05:47; mod6: <+asciilifeform> because afaik no one has yet done this. << I have 2x completed full sync with -verifyall. And I have further attemps #3 & #4 >300`000 blocks atm.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about. << Gavin's eariler marketing campaign made this autumn the latest they could do this.
punkman: stray quotes where you add the color style
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:38:34; hanbot: <mod6> so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << picked the renaming bits out of here, worked for me, thanks. did not get the syntax error!
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245242 << can't wait for the 'i am usg stoolie and will be stoned to death if $leak is leaked'
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245265 << mine sputters, and barely runs, but loads. at first glance, whatever kakobrekla did to the log has doubled memory footprint
jurov: except me to test it, then I threw my hands in disgust when i could not easily troubleshoot why it fails to verify
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 08:47:37; mircea_popescu: incidentally : if gpg had the fucking sense to include MORE information on its information line, we wouldn't have the problem with the dashes.
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245281 << there's PGP/MIME (RFC2015, RFC3156) that allows to add such headers easily
assbot: Young Australians increasingly jobless, unmarried and living at home | Australia news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KxreSD )
cazalla: http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/aug/20/young-australians-increasingly-jobless-unmarried-and-living-at-home reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEgxS_vzQjU and with that, night night
assbot: These beans is shit.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Shenhua Watermark coal mine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1LmtsKs )
cazalla: tbh, chinese are not quite finished down under.. they want to destroy primo agricultural land with the .au gov blessing because hey, natives can always order in chinese food instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenhua_Watermark_coal_mine
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1244822 <<< they already took all the minerals, what more do they want ?!
jurov: <stick`> miners themselves choose port to connect
punkman: (exercise for students: clearsign a piece of text. append as many trailing spaces/tabs/CRs as you like to the clearsigned text. check if it's still valid. repeat process with detached signature, see what happens)
punkman: here's a diff comparing my genesis.vpatch, which I clearsigned then run through "gpg -d", to decoded_genesis.vpatch http://dpaste.com/1BC72A9
punkman: the dash escaping GPG does works fine for me. the problem is clearsigning fucks with trailing spaces and whatnot
mircea_popescu: then it knows it needs to stop after 593 characters rather than look for dashes like a drunk mole.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : if gpg had the fucking sense to include MORE information on its information line, we wouldn't have the problem with the dashes.
punkman: "You'll have to do s/\n|GPG|/\n/ to recover the vpatch." << why not gpg -d?
punkman: "He began tapping on the wall between our stalls, asking why I wouldn’t respond, as if inter-stall conversation should be a totally normal, not disgusting means of communication."
punkman: "The most horrifying moment of my employment at Amazon was the time I was using the toilet and a coworker began talking from the stall next to me. He asked me why I had not responded to his very pressing email. I closed my eyes and pretended this wasn’t happening. What email could be so important that it could not wait five minutes for me to use the bathroom?"
mircea_popescu: i don't have the color on.
punkman: hmm if you turn color off there are some stray quotes: <p class="chatrows lightgray" ">
punkman: I just can't see the extra "style="background:#f9f9ec " hosing anything, but who knows
mircea_popescu: so now i can't fucking use the log anymore. can i has revert ?
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-43598 << LOL. If you had a Bitcoin for every time someone eventually told you "You were right"...wait...
mircea_popescu: in other news, "Dear customer, We are sorry, Your PayPal account has been limited until we here from you"
thestringpuller: http://shitco.in/2015/08/19/the-bitcoin-xt-trojan/ << whoa this is a great story
hanbot: <mod6> so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << picked the renaming bits out of here, worked for me, thanks. did not get the syntax error!
assbot: Cities 101: The Mythic Undercover Yellow Taxi Cab NYPD Cop Car | Untapped Cities ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lm4jzp )
punkman: http://untappedcities.com/2015/03/30/cities-101-the-mythic-undercover-yellow-taxi-cab-nypd-cop-car/
punkman: "No, we were not hacked. 'Deez Nuts' is the legal name of the candidate and he is polling at 9 percent in NC: http://abc11.com/947054/ "
punkman: "I wonder what happens when there's a giant flaming mushroom cloud in your neighborhood and no one publishes a word" https://medium.com/@cmphku/chinese-media-and-the-tianjin-disaster-3bd98a6fac44
mod6: ... then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch" << bah. should read: "./vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch"
mod6: so i ended up chaging the file name to "vdiff.sh" + chmod 0755, and then changing the script so it reads: "vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch"
mod6: hanbot: the basic issue is that this line in asciilifeform's script: vdiff a b > genesis.vpatch
mircea_popescu: the possibility seems remote.
Birdman: Coldbleed is someone i had been talking to about the WoT and -assets so i directed him here
mircea_popescu: hanbot do you have the whole set of antecedents ?
Birdman: Hello, im getting the OTP when i ask for voice, but im not sure what to do past that
hanbot: no luck for me v genesis (http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000148.html); genesis.sh produces empty vpatch: http://dpaste.com/2KD5AB5
tripleslash: Why the need for full sync --verifyall? What'd I miss?
mod6: <+asciilifeform> because afaik no one has yet done this. << I have 2x completed full sync with -verifyall. And I have further attemps #3 & #4 >300`000 blocks atm.
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150819/genesis_2cba721ced8108cf65ab7d045081237ecda4602a.vpatch << seeing 'chicken' all in one file sorta reminds me that the thing is finite and pretty small, and can be grasped. almost.
mircea_popescu: in other news,
asciilifeform: (on therealbitcoin, naturally)
mircea_popescu: that being teh scant joy in otherwise generously daily distress.
asciilifeform sometimes finds himself wondering how much mircea_popescu's apparatus actually differs from therealbitcoin
asciilifeform: consider a post to the ml, even
mircea_popescu: i've been burning at it for > month by now, but the ~7 different spots that at times seemed dubious carry no significance or import.,
mircea_popescu: anyway, another batch of tests returns. the chain as currently seen longest, 370657 tall does in fact verify throughout in all presentations.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 04:32:13; mircea_popescu: the only cherry missing from this cake is to discover hearn actually outsourced this shit via odesk or some crap.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245138 << i dare say that this or similar scenario is unlikely. the 'rent-a-slave' outfits are largely helpless when asked for anything other than wwwtronic proggy
asciilifeform: the question of which monkey in the forest produced a particular stool sample, is perhaps interesting to ~someone~
mircea_popescu: it wouldn't be the first time us agent had to provide his own combat boots.
asciilifeform: of the code.
asciilifeform: this produces the characteristic schizo flavour
asciilifeform: if i had to guess, would guess that they farm it out filipino-style - but internally
mircea_popescu: "fuck your mother too."
asciilifeform: no reason he couldn't use the conventional gs-9 through 12 or whatnot monkey fleet
mircea_popescu: (contrary to his pretense, the man can't actually code / has never actually written anything / etc)
mircea_popescu: the only cherry missing from this cake is to discover hearn actually outsourced this shit via odesk or some crap.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the same, oh, it's broken ? no problem pinoy fix!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about.
mircea_popescu: you're prolly not old enough for it, but if yo uare THAT patient, asciilifeform dig up the old solidcoin stuff. it was a goldmine.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why all the "bitcoin fork" derpage. this really is solidcoin v2.0
asciilifeform: 'Calculate the priority of the new IP to see if we should drop it immediately (normal) or kick one of the other peers out to make room for it.' -- are you a plebe, or a loyal servant of the crown
asciilifeform: translated for humans, means 'if you wanna talk, prove you're a leaf node running hearnia. and don't pretend to be infrastructural node, we know who they are already and i don't recall selling you a license'
asciilifeform: 'Future... ...Design a protocol to let user wallets gain priority by proving ownership of coin age, as they tend to have short lived connections and roam around different IPs, but we still want to serve them ahead of long term idling connections.' << lulzy. hearn would have all nodes run hotwallet to 'prove coin age'
assbot: Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. · bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt@73c9efe · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jkc0Ea )
asciilifeform: whole shebang worth reading, for the patient
mircea_popescu: the lolcow that just keeps giving
assbot: Introduce the beginnings of anti-DoS resource scheduling. · bitcoinxt/bitcoinxt@73c9efe · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1JkbXbv )
mircea_popescu: im sure it pays the bills.
assbot: Logged on 04-06-2014 00:08:26; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the buggers' traditional defense is to pretend that the event was a non-event - or, if this is impractical, to continue living in an imaginary world where they 'scooped' the story first, and all of the 'unsanctioned' discussion never happened.
mircea_popescu: "they need it!!1"
mircea_popescu: buncha derps couldn't find their way out of a nonexistent paper bag, yet wish to have a "profession" and get "salaries". why "? for what ?
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo im half-amused that the "mainstream media" fails to connect the fetlife story to the ashley madison story.
mircea_popescu: good idea, too bad they failed.
assbot: The Gentlemen Prefer CoEds Club on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JxR3lb )
mircea_popescu: "Established Men, a website dedicated to pairing up beautiful young women with successful older men." << - >> http://trilema.com/2013/the-gentlemen-prefer-coeds-club/
BingoBoingo: Premise it totally improved though by seeing bad thing happen to actor who was the face of OS X for so long
BingoBoingo: Yes plenty of CanadiaMerican retardation, but... actually the five line synopis and punchline may be enough
BingoBoingo: Of course. I mean Mr. Tusk fucked the shit out of that penguin.
mircea_popescu: the only reason there isn't a cock eating rock somewhere is pure chance. otherwise, if it offered a hole, it'd eat well enough.
BingoBoingo: Could be both, seems they hooked Tony Blair
BingoBoingo: Ashley Madison at some point took in serious fiat though. They had prominent TV ads which means either VC suckers or customer suckers
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, given the stolid stupidity of those chicks on camwhores.com or w/e offered bitcoin.... safer bet is "no".
mircea_popescu: there might have been some hookers working the cream off the top, those 1-2% oif males that finally got the nerve together to actually GASP!~1 meet someone after 10 or so years of derping around on the site.
mircea_popescu: which is why the breach is particularly ruinous to them. as seinfeld said, "that's why divorce is so traumatic : you've been impeached, and i wasn't even the president!"
mircea_popescu: the value proposition of ashley madison reads something likle "you too can be ALMOST like one of those dudes that cheats on his wife. except, you won't ever get caught, because... you're not ACTUALLY doing it"
mircea_popescu: re the ashley madison thing, i believe it chiefly provides the same service faux exchanges etc provide to the click-bound generation. ie, they get to pretend like they're traders, don juans, what not, all from the safety of their own den, and - crucially - without actually doing it.
mircea_popescu: "here's my picture in front of the pyramids"
mircea_popescu: the thing's basically a usgism, in spirit if not in form.
asciilifeform: anyone who doesn't care for the 'entomology' here - can safely skip whole shebang.
hanbot: asciilifeform okay. but supposing i want to try out your versioning system & sign it and all, i -need- the "orchestra" build, do i not?
mircea_popescu: good for it. i dun know the author and don't care what he might wish to say one way or the other.
asciilifeform: hanbot: it will, possibly, supercede these if and when ben_vulpes, mod6, et al, agree that my current approach is correct.
asciilifeform: hanbot: in its present condition, it supercedes nothing at all, except for the laborious 'here's where to get all the patches and how they depend on each other' docs
asciilifeform: orchestra consists of precisely the same patches which made it into rel1 and those which are being considered by mod6 and ben_vulpes for inclusion in rel2
hanbot: "orchestra" supercedes "rotor" which supercedes "stator", and the v versioning system is usable (as-is) for "orchestra" only, correct?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the chumpers, one might suppose, thought this
asciilifeform: glaringly, no mention of therealbitcoin
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why surprising ? nobody seriously thought women were in there.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 03:33:24; pete_dushenski: http://shitco.in/2015/08/19/the-bitcoin-xt-trojan/
pete_dushenski: the timelines add up. first post on shitco.in on may 4, 2015. last post on wp site on feb 27, 2015
assbot: Mike the Crypto Goat | Exploring Internet security, crypto and civil liberties. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkk1s4 )
pete_dushenski: https://mikethegoat.wordpress.com/ << may be same as this mike ?
asciilifeform: or is there more than one
BingoBoingo: <assbot> First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkjXsj ) << Welcome to the Terror DOme
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> who the fuck even signs up for a 'dating site' ? how does this differ from the kind of folks who answer nigerian '419' spam ? << Some locales it is fishing with dynamite
asciilifeform: the 'xt trojan' piece
assbot: First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkjXsj )
pete_dushenski: "First Mike Tyson bitcoin ATM is launched - sorry guys, it's just another Lamassu machine" << lel. this one's for adam_obrien
asciilifeform: and yes, they keep all in 'excel.' because gott mit uns or something
asciilifeform spent an unhealthily large chunk of today crawling the dump
asciilifeform: who the fuck even signs up for a 'dating site' ? how does this differ from the kind of folks who answer nigerian '419' spam ?
asciilifeform: perhaps this is sop. if so, one can wonder why the chumpers signed up to begin with
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1244949 << surprisingly little discussion in the press re: the fact of there being virtually no actual (vs. perl script) females in the system
asciilifeform: !s from:TheRealJohnGalt
BingoBoingo: !up TheRealJohnGalt
BingoBoingo does not know their stimulus for keeping linux of life support, may have been Nvidia...
BingoBoingo: Problem seems to be they used plan9 userland as a path to saving linux when the linux part could have been flushed
asciilifeform: screw this 'i ran an os in userland on other os because i needed a thesis 111!!111' shit.
asciilifeform: then sell for glue.
asciilifeform: and shoot it in the head.
asciilifeform: take it by its reins, lead it out behind the barn,
asciilifeform: (i'm for abolishing those, on account of their profound uselessness...)
asciilifeform: you should get same thing i did, possibly excepting the timestamps
asciilifeform: that was the intent
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:42:28; mod6: The hashes look like the match -- mainly. asciilifeform, can you confirm that this is correct or incorrect?
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:20:07; hanbot: <mod6> asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken? << i must be dense, where's "bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest"? i don't see it in 1), i don't see it in 3).
BingoBoingo: It's just if you are marking up text for display... WHy butcher the whole thing with superfluous attributes?
BingoBoingo: Really the "style" attribute inside tags has no reason to be used ever
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: I'm cleaning it up, but can't be inserting extra style. Breaks the consisten qntra look.
pete_dushenski: i had it on 'justify' like i do on all contravex, then i remembered that qntra is 'left'
mod6: (contains the mainifest you are looking for)
mod6: hanbot: so yeah, chicken.tar.gz isn't linked in the 'V Genesis' email. But it can be found here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/chicken.tar.gz
mod6: The hashes look like the match -- mainly. asciilifeform, can you confirm that this is correct or incorrect?
mod6: alright, so I created this script: http://dpaste.com/04DJKKA.txt to produce a vpatch as discussed in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-August/000148.html : Here is the diff of the vdiff my script produced v. the one included with asciilifeform's email: http://dpaste.com/1ACSMBC.txt
mircea_popescu: "There's absolutely no difference between Keiser's scamcoin and Gavin's scam coin as far as the network is concerned : while one's a scammer that I humiliatingly defeated in the past whereas the other a scammer that I humiliatingly defeat in the future, this makes no difference for Bitcoin."
mod6: it's in the chicken.tar.gz
hanbot: <mod6> asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken? << i must be dense, where's "bitcoin-0.5.3-no-crud.sha256.manifest"? i don't see it in 1), i don't see it in 3).
mircea_popescu: anyway, notice the word wizardry. "if there is full credit card data in a dump, its not from us". whereas the dump clearly and pointedly states "some credit card data".
mircea_popescu: concerned ceo told the clueless press "i don't even" in an emotionally charged meeting over tea tonight
pete_dushenski: "if someone claims that we provide security and confidentiality, you ~know~ they've got the wrong guys !"
pete_dushenski: "Raja Bhatia, Ashley Madison's founding CTO who today consults for the website's team, is not convinced this leak is real. He told investigative journo Brian Krebs this evening that the site does not store credit card numbers. "If there is full credit card data in a dump, it’s not from us, because we don’t even have that," Bhatia added." << vs. internet 3.0
mircea_popescu: as the romanian expression goes, "sa increstam in grinda".
BingoBoingo: An internet between the ROckie Mountains and Pacific ocean
BingoBoingo humble enough to assume if something doesn't work that I introduced the problem
asciilifeform: incidentally, if you make a mistake in your 'genesis', other vpatches also will fail.
BingoBoingo just impressed there exists a versioning system nao
asciilifeform: if you read the 'orchestra' post and followed instructions, you have a set that will verify against 'breath of life.'
asciilifeform: OTHERWISE NOT.
asciilifeform: re: breath of life: again, the beauty of cruel equations: if your vdiffs are correctly generated, my signatures will verify.
mod6: asciilifeform: your step "2)", do you mean to indicate reference [1] instead of "also [3]" which is the email to chicken?
mircea_popescu: but yes, this is the right thing.
mircea_popescu: tye why and the what are not separable.
asciilifeform: but there is not always a place.
asciilifeform: most folks cram it into the payload, yes.
asciilifeform: (offtopic: perhaps the single most asinine aspect of gpg signature as-we-have-it is the lack of a clearly delineated space to write ~why~ you are signing something.)
asciilifeform: and post the sig
asciilifeform: if anyone does not understand why i did this, or, alternatively, believes that this ought to have been done in some other way - please speak.
pete_dushenski: speaking of said show, the review is another missed shot by scoopbot_revived. that williamdunne...
mircea_popescu: wilbns>Sovereign credit ratings from Moodys, Fitch and S&P will soon become extinct << unavoidably. they have been largely ignored ever since the ridiculous failures they displayed a decade or so ago.
gribble: Error: For identification purposes, you must be identified via GPG to use the order book.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>'military threat', in usg parlance, means 'won't bend over immediately when asked nicely to assume buggery position' << amusingly, this bled from the DoD into the "law enforcement" paramilitary wing.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, i'm about as biased in favour of an empire of china as i'm biased in favour of an empire of grasshoppers.
mircea_popescu: and it would seem the us is all glass. much like hitler's socialist regime, or stalin's socialist regime, the us socialism can not really take defeat well. either they turn it around or they go under, there's no "occupied france" going on.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: this is a political disaster for the us, nothing like the superficial humiliations it has received politically from the likes of putin and practically from the likes of isis
mircea_popescu: trinque>china for example builds its *first* aircraft carrier, and people talk about the chinese being a military threat <<< you don't understand how this works. the aircraft carrier is irrelevant. china bet on the winning strat (missile defense) and bet a lot more than the us can afford, and as a result now has unchallangeable area denial ability throughout the shores. this means it can pursue its own, private local
mircea_popescu: ascii_field>vs the more subtle but destructive 'international law' and financial pyramid << in fairness : this was bismarck's idea, to finance the pre-ww1 eurozone. it HAD to be constantly rolled up in higher and higher schemes, because at all points throughout the past two centuries, bismarck's folly (pay now and the more people coming next will pay you) seemed too big to fail.
mircea_popescu: <ascii_field>the excuse of 'if we hadn't raped this chick, somebody else would have' is a nonstarter << orly ? http://trilema.com/2013/no-womans-land/#selection-449.68-449.225
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 00:37:58; mircea_popescu: lots of things now the height of fashion in the us were invented by west a-h jewz.
BingoBoingo: Just lots of stunted, short and prematurely yellow swaths of the stuff.
BingoBoingo: IN other news Corn fields looking markedly worse this week
asciilifeform: hey, if eskimos or pygmies had invented it, it would be sop in usa just the same
mircea_popescu: well, that and the arctic, at any rate.
mircea_popescu: the girls iirc czech, and hm... don't ever visit bohemia then. it's where the small round cro mignon faceship landed
asciilifeform: where traces of intelligence, of expression - ground off, like the unnecessary glass in a lens
trinque departs, thanks for the responses.
mircea_popescu: trinque you know, the austro-hungarians had much better call to think of their alcatuire as "a singular thing"
trinque: when my own identity is very much involved with the idea that it isn't
trinque: my perspective came from thinking of the country as a singular thing.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do they make chicks with faces any more ?