mircea_popescu: btw, was it actually named for the lucky strike smoker chick ?
mircea_popescu: except the one whose name's ada.
asciilifeform: betcha mircea_popescu could easily include ada in the gurlz training and no one will notice the difference
mircea_popescu: which is exactly what's 50% of the conversation in my household for the first x months of the life of a new girl anyway
asciilifeform: idk about the lot of you, but i am not inclined to play 'underhanded c contest' for this.
mircea_popescu: haha not in ada, just, they'll have to publish it and we'll go "omfg you can't be this stupid, redo it" like 50 times.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:03:57; danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245343 << come to think of it, yes my browsers have also been much slower at loading the log ever since the color change
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have been deliberately dancing around the spitoon-drinking that reimplementing 'diff' and 'patch' would be.
ben_vulpes: i've taken to using the -d flag with patch *always*
ben_vulpes: i don't consider bitcoin production ready in any of the incarnations that i've seen
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 18:23:28; mike_c: i consider it simply, the foundation says so.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: the amusing thing is that you seem to think that *you're* the pauper hereabouts
mircea_popescu: mats the name he gave his node
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we might be the first to seriously diff a diff
ben_vulpes: (in other news coracle at 338451)
asciilifeform: funnily, i was never able to get the custom format string feature in gnu diff to work with the -uNr standard
mircea_popescu: there is that
asciilifeform: though iirc diff will complain whenever a file on the local filesystem is being replaced with 'older'
asciilifeform: at any rate, they can't be removed entirely because epoch0 is 'magic' to diff
mircea_popescu: ironically, it is b-a that has the first and so far only actual application of "blockchain technology"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they are not ~entirely~ meaningless, in that they impose an ordering. BUT my antecedent hashes do that now.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the timestamps are truly meaningless here.
asciilifeform: while folks are awake, i would like to pose the question,
asciilifeform: iirc hanbot also had the out-of-order thing with genesis
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:02:54; punkman: http://untappedcities.com/2015/03/30/cities-101-the-mythic-undercover-yellow-taxi-cab-nypd-cop-car/
ben_vulpes: there i stand shocked and inebriated at this turn of events
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 06:02:54; punkman: http://untappedcities.com/2015/03/30/cities-101-the-mythic-undercover-yellow-taxi-cab-nypd-cop-car/
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 03:18:03; asciilifeform: srsly there is no end to the retardation of linux
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1244973 << on another client thinger recently i saw a pull request that replaced naive iteration through the list of files as provided by the ruby fs abstraction with an iteration over a hand-curated list of files because "differences between linux and os x"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: at the beginning of each line.
ben_vulpes: the fix?
ben_vulpes: and five minutes later, found the commit wherein previous slaves had "fixed tests"
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 02:09:25; mircea_popescu: anyway, notice the word wizardry. "if there is full credit card data in a dump, its not from us". whereas the dump clearly and pointedly states "some credit card data".
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6: your diff is correct (only timestamps at variance) << right on. thanks for the tip about locale.
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: they don't dare come near
BingoBoingo: But THEY would attack him
mod6: asciilifeform: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/genesis.sh && http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/mod6.genesis-cmp-20150820.txt
BingoBoingo: What doesn blob from hell mean in the context above?
BingoBoingo: What the fuck
trinque: ben_vulpes: godspeed against the pussdemon
ben_vulpes: trinque: blob from hell has me by the short and curlies
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 01:43:43; *: asciilifeform presently breaking brain trying to find what the fuck IF_LINT is for
trinque: ben_vulpes: fighting back the blob-thing?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246551 << subject of programmers, there's a bit of ruby in a client ios build
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 01:22:37; mircea_popescu: maybe the conversation's too o'cult.
mod6: another crazy thing is this BDB configure script. i got rotor to build on i686 with TEST2. but the crazy thing is that it seems to compile just fine when BDB has --host=x86_64-linux OR --host=i386-linux but NOT without a --host=<SOMETHING>
gernika: doh sorry - thestringpuller
ben_vulpes: whips crack in the uranium mines, tho
ben_vulpes: i hope to have time to review within the month
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: super work on the orchestra
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for adlai from 1 to 2 with note: highly educational
assbot: You rated user adlai on 17-Oct-2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: seems sane.
gribble: You rated user adlai on Fri Oct 17 11:28:06 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: seems sane.
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as the guy links it as "pgp signature"...
mircea_popescu: i could prolly have the girls crack that 18 bit sig by hand
mircea_popescu: what the fuckl
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron i can't make out what the problem is ?
phf: but while researching some line of thought, discovered that they are making a movie of pkd's Radio Free Albemuth. i was who own all those pkd rights?
phf: plan9 by the way, uses a custom dialect of C
asciilifeform: (otherwise very spiffy, largely through having sat out the last 20 yrs of drepperization)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> is there a patient on this operating table at all? or just four-limbed tumour mass ? << Seven limbed actually. You neglected several long tumors have calcified bone like structures
asciilifeform: this horror went past the point of being recoverable, long, long ago.
phf: hehe, i was going to make a ~joke~ with the description of how if_lint operates, turns out that's how it actually operates.
asciilifeform: is there a patient on this operating table at all? or just four-limbed tumour mass ?
asciilifeform: 'More important, I looked through some of the Gnulib and GNU utilities code that deals with working around bugs in GCC's diagnostics generation, and -Wmaybe-uninitialized in particular has caused us so much grief that we typically silence it in a different way, which I should mention. We use a macro definition like this:' << holy fuq.
assbot: Paul Eggert - Re: Add macros for diagnostic control, use them in locale/weightwc.h ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBlhbX )
asciilifeform presently breaking brain trying to find what the fuck IF_LINT is for
mircea_popescu: most of the "community" got passing grades from schools i wouldn't send my donkey to.
mircea_popescu: most of reddit's problems atm consist of a "but hey, i was at the tavern, i copied the tavern master, therefore i know"
mircea_popescu: phf the approach can take you very far provided you understand it takes you absolutely nowhere.
phf: that's fair, though i think the approach can still take you far, as long as you assume that there's someone with better knowledge and taste then yourself, always
mircea_popescu: but look how terribru the C rms has learned turns out to be.
mircea_popescu: phf sure, but most of the things we do today can't be thus learned.
phf: mircea_popescu: i think the idea was imprinted on me through soviet imagery still, of a young pioneer politely and carefully observing an older pioneer performing some tricky task, soldering say. the implication was "this old person, knows better, so shut the fuck up and learn"
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: another thing much in the vein of the old time pub function above was the "calificare la locul de munca", the last breath of apprenticeship.
mircea_popescu: "On older terminals, the underscore code is displayed as a left arrow, called backarrow, the caret is displayed as an up-arrow and the vertical bar has a hole in the middle."
mircea_popescu: so it was sort-of abandoned for the mass.
mircea_popescu: what has happened however was a shear (ie, kill the middle). there is no point in carnation lower class men should be engaging in this sport, that's not in any sense their place. not like a random blue collar derp can, through no matter how liberal application of port and tavern-debate, become an engineer.
phf: james lafond incidentally wrote how old time pubs were places were men could run wild boasts by the others and get called out or not, and that this form of conversation has been lost. seems to me in "consensus" places there's always some fuck ready to butt in into any point, just to make a counterpoint, that it's inconceivable for redditards that there's a dozen reading and thinking without running their mouths
asciilifeform: n00bz - 'man ascii' on your terminal if unsure what the order is!
asciilifeform: my diff sorts lexicographic by terminal file name. as the gods meant.
mircea_popescu: over the past ~year or so.
asciilifeform: 'pogrommer' (in the words of ex-gf)
mircea_popescu: it's fucking incredible the serendipity of this shit as overlapped on that convo.
mircea_popescu: who figures "hey, i'll write a tool, and if it does different things for different people - all the better!"
mircea_popescu: what the shit already.
mircea_popescu: maybe the conversation's too o'cult.
asciilifeform: trinque only thinks this because he took the lsd!
mircea_popescu is depressed. ALL THESE YEARS.
mircea_popescu: What strikes me in all these IRC convos involving butters is that they are not talking. This is not a conversation. They say shit past each other. No one listens, no one responds, they're just on some dumbass tirade for no purpose."
mircea_popescu: azns build the best empires.
mircea_popescu: and, for a lol, penis size and social structured-ness are ALSO inversely correlated. which is why azns have the tiniest, and africans the biggest.
mircea_popescu: which is why, to this day, the best strat to get laid is to TALK TO HER.
mircea_popescu: (the fact that you can talk to a mated female, on top of all the other strategies to get her to fuck outside her pair, changes everything.
trinque: so being able to refer to the thing caused it?
mircea_popescu: language was the original russian brides website.
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2014 21:25:42; mircea_popescu: A CS student named Lin had a prick the size of a pin. It was no good for girls but just great for squirrels, they squealed with delight with it in.
mircea_popescu: you know, the average monkey is both much smaller overall, and then her cunt's much tinier proportionately still ?
mircea_popescu: "An asshole with these opinions on women cannot be trusted to be kinder to his customers."
trinque: mircea_popescu: because any opinion outside the hive mind is arbitrary!
mircea_popescu: so technically they should be called rippits.
trinque: sounds like mp doesn't know what's going on because he predicted the present outcome before the community was onboard with the notion
mircea_popescu: no but seriously. so he could imagine what was going through my head. and then i was right long before people even knew what it was called and therefore...
mircea_popescu: "I'd say he has completely lost the plot at this stage. He was calling bitcoinXT an altcoin long before it was even suggested. I can't imagine what's going through his mind right now given that I could imagine the completely fucked up shit that was happening before." << if anyone has a reddit to english translation service, please help.
asciilifeform: the 'pyramid' nonsense aside, people do end up fixated with whatever their unmet animal itch is
mircea_popescu: anyway, it'd seem the fact that rape doesn't work in nature liek reddit wants it to is becoming a much bigger problem reddit has with mp than merely the fact that money doesn't work in nature like reddit wants it to.
mircea_popescu: i'd fire her. she wants to teach the kids to talk trash about random people, that's what lincoln is for.
mircea_popescu: and not only isn't she fired for this, but somehow "the community" thinks this is sane.
asciilifeform: why can't herr luther do whatever the fuck he wants with the ink that he bought with the paper that he bought....
mircea_popescu: yaya. because apparently "there's six million idiots with nothing better to do on the web".
mircea_popescu: ag3nt_zer0 why can't it be that the woman does whatever the fuck she wants with the camera she boughjt in the space she paid for and everyone else can just go dangle ?
asciilifeform: the ragged dervish is permanently preoccupied with starvation
mircea_popescu: the italian guy.
asciilifeform: gimme a smart gedankenorwell then
mircea_popescu: not that he didn't know better, either.
mircea_popescu: no, this is not the case. he was just stupid.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'wrote because i am wrong' is imho correct, but in the ~literal~ sense. as in 'my whole existence is an uncorrectable wrong'
asciilifeform: or, alternatively, from the gallows
mircea_popescu: no, not the same thing.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's more the case that "wrote because i am wrong, and i know i am wrong, and if i don't write i can't sleep."
asciilifeform: wrote because the choices are 'write into a bottle' or 'eat bullet'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i never got the impression that o had pretences to 'great'. he wrote for the archaeologist. as i do.
mircea_popescu: in fact, the only actual attention orwell has, at any point, enjoyed, is in the fringe of 1984 afficionados, which suddenly saw itself bitcoinized into relevancy cca 2010. otherwise...
BingoBoingo: But she was being so unreasonable that it helped my cause. When I told the cops that I slipped the nelson on her they were congratulatory. The one cop says, Really, man, you used the nelson? Way to gothats the best thing for women who are trying to hit you!
mircea_popescu: well heck, how is it my fault nature doesn't fit their projections ffs.
asciilifeform: perhaps it is like being a mollusc? or hawk? or which other animals were mentioned
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> jurov: why long, set up a dos box, enjoy the maxint games which were maxint times better than anything available today. << word.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's not altogether clear multi thread benefits bitcoin much. at least atm.
trinque: ah lode runner is theirs?
asciilifeform: buncha others.
trinque: asciilifeform | jurov: why long, set up a dos box, enjoy the maxint games which were maxint times better than anything available today. << /me wishes to see asciilifeform's DOS game list, as I was too young to truly appreciate the era
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in http://qntra.net/2015/08/collected-notes-on-the-xt-client-and-xtcoin-fork
jurov: cuz of the hawk... and some molluscs (like cephalopods) are very intelligent
jurov: "What kind of terrible offense must one commit in their past life to be reborn as a trickster god's cruel experiment: a living work of sadistic irony possessing the visual acuity of a hawk, the palate of a dung beetle, and the agency of a mollusk."
assbot: Degenerate gambler Mircea Popescu muses about how female monkeys love their rapists but will attack beta males: "No female monkey that's been raped, even if regularly and consistently, ever attacks the rapist." : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1J8UgrH )
asciilifeform: jurov: why long, set up a dos box, enjoy the maxint games which were maxint times better than anything available today.
jurov: i know. just feeling the longing after himen.sys :D
asciilifeform: the interesting one, naturally.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1246308 << aha. for instance, one fella i know loaded the new (today's) 'ashley madison' crud. and one of the archive balls fails pgp sig.
asciilifeform: it literally gives nothing over the naked iron, for this job.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 18:34:19; ascii_field: so a 'dos port' is more appropriately a 'bare metal' port, and doesn't need the dos for anything
ag3nt_zer0: so then they teach him to sing songs, then replace the words with what they actually want to say
ag3nt_zer0: ... teaching stroke victims to talk again - after 5 years of fruitless attempts this guys doctor taps and sings happy birthday and the dude just sings it straightaway with him
ag3nt_zer0: more miraculous music stuff: melodic intonation therapy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_5verI-bj8
mats: BingoBoingo: re: "Hearn's Blacklist Shenanigans", some corrections -- "these data structure" >> "these data structures" and "though some voice" >> "though some voices"
BingoBoingo: Also, who would have thought "People" magazine would "get it" and join the shitlord train to swolehalla http://www.people.com/article/project-harpoon-photoshop-plus-size-women-speaks-out
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Nah. Two St Louis shootings. One was Ferguson hoodrats shot through a house killing a nine year old with a stray bullet. The other was StL PD shooting a fleeing innocent youth.
mircea_popescu: is this the nyfd shooting or something else
BingoBoingo: Gawker of course has a piece on Homeboy fleeing the crackhouse and eating pig lead
BingoBoingo: Should be fixed and in the I can't even department http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-police-officer-describes-heartbreak-of-fatal-shooting-of-/article_bb249529-3870-5ae1-83da-8545f4a6773e.html Yet they burned a chunk of North St Last night for the kid who ran out of a crack house
mircea_popescu: "his true loyalties and thinly disguised malfeasance are apparent even under the most superficial examination" ?
BingoBoingo: K, thestringpuller isn't getting shares from Hearn's code
BingoBoingo: Of course. I's just like to kill the Cawsmax Ray excuse
mircea_popescu: this because "the people" have no proper function in government, and unlike the aspie 14%, the people know this well enough.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245641 << except this is how it works, always and everywhere. /me doth not know a time or a place where it was different. including the early days of the us revolutionary movement, or the days the menshevic faction had the upper hand, or any other time.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 19:10:43; ascii_field: 'Update: The US Coast Guard informed me that the 16,000 pounds of cocaine seized during the July 18 semi-submersible bust has been changed to 14,000 pounds, due to a "quantity mistake" in their initial report. This story has been changed to reflect that correction' << 2,000 for obamitler's cellar
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245638 << a ton of uncut cocaine, more than the collected body of us sluts in the proper age could snort anyway.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 18:48:57; ascii_field: 'the cuckening'
mircea_popescu: wait. pd-dos was the os one not dr-dos.
mircea_popescu: "wait, THAT is what computers were for ?! all these years!"
mircea_popescu: it's as if bitcoin suddenly raised the bar for programming computers and now most everyone's too short to play.
mircea_popescu: fucking openssl dispolays the issue.
mircea_popescu: why ther fuck would it not
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245518 << i thought ls was the problem.
mircea_popescu: buncha veterans of the lost war on lawn of white house,
mircea_popescu: will discuss their debates, whatever, "race", "women" bla bla. much like the locals do soccer.
mircea_popescu: they'll just sue the chinese in a chinese court protesting that the chinese arew forcing them to pay bonds as they promised to pay,
mircea_popescu: in fact this country is quite exactly the future of the us, almost to the last dash.
ascii_field: re: whether long-term thing or no
mircea_popescu: and the next day, people had to hide the police from the mob, like they were jews suddenly.
mircea_popescu: modern ro is kinda what the us aspires to be. and at the point where that happened, about 3%.
mircea_popescu: "then us finally gets to meet its destiny".
ascii_field: then chechnya. which isn't a long-term affair.
mircea_popescu: this is strictly true irrespective of any other consideration, and the epsilon can even be calculated quite well.
mircea_popescu: if the odds for a policeman being answered with bullets are ~0%, there can be a country.
mircea_popescu: understand : the ability of the usg to continue strictly lays in the fiction called "lawful order".
ascii_field: wake me up when they stop 'death ray'ing.
ascii_field: because the 'don'
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 16:50:56; ascii_field: (could easily be wholly fictional, but, in the immortal words of tlp: 'if you're reading it, it's for you')
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245510 << the consensus seems to be that the us will end under a hail of "don't thread on me" folk. it's what chomsy thinks but daren't say, it's what the various judges think which is why they come out with all the lulzy pretense of "systematic" discussion etc.
mircea_popescu: aww. so much less russias they could buy.
mircea_popescu: you can't have a middle class unless the poor class is being squished underfoot.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, the only possible definition of "middle class" is, "what's left of the poor fucks once the rich fucks are done raping their daughters and shooting their sons for sport."
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 14:26:53; mike_c: so, Jared drives to the prostitute, gets busted, and has to pay the feds not to seize the car he drove there in?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245446 << well, it wasn't really his car. think of the us more in terms of a casino. he was allowed one spin on the casino's car, and then if he wanted another spin he had to give them another ticket.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245396 << imo it's just a leftover magic thinking thing. "oh if i keep the kid's name a secret evil witches can't steal his soul".
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245376 << which is why the only possible answers are violence or submission, which is why the inane bitching on social media sounds just like she's playing coy but enjoyed it, and which is also why "a society without violence" can not in point of fact function.
jurov 's gonna dictionary ping *.bitcoin-assets.com to see if there's more :D
kakobrekla: i didnt publish the link really.
mircea_popescu: yes but traditionally the way broker works is that he allocates his trades. so... you say it happened, you have a block it could have happenbed in, that's it.
jurov: well, i was troubleshooting coinbr transaction "2015-08-19T22:31:42+00:00", B 53950, "S.MPOE" @ 68266 but it got put together with others and then published in channel
jurov: kakobrekla/mike_c , is there any public source for mpex trades (other than mpex.coinbr.com) that does not mutilate data?
BingoBoingo: I was kinda iffy about him with the whole Trezor thing
mircea_popescu: "good guys" gotta at some point comprehend the jwz future is no future.
BingoBoingo: Even though it links to all the times Mircea was right and doesn't have Mircea on the byline
mircea_popescu: well, no. it works as intended : if you extract all the prefixed lines and wipe the prefix, you get the original text.
punkman: I was also trying to make a point about the |GPG| prefix being useless
mircea_popescu: the correct solution is to reimplement pgp and make it behave re clearsign.
mircea_popescu: still, these perfectly valid technical objections aside - signed is deeply inferior to clearsigned. this is a fact, and it won't change.
mircea_popescu: just making the point that it's fucking impossible to predict wtf it does
punkman: mircea_popescu: I was wrong on the CR part, not sure on the exact set of whitespace chars it will happily eat, but it's probably more than tabs and spaces. example: http://dpaste.com/18QBJJY.txt
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 13:20:14; BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo i don't actually think they were READY to deploy this autumn. irrespective of the september term they might or might not have lied to manageement about. << Gavin's eariler marketing campaign made this autumn the latest they could do this.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245360 << yeah well, allow me to welcome youy in the wonderful world of soviet bureaucracy. the guns were delivered at kiev. the men were delivered at odessa. the ammunition was left behind. inexplicably, the front fell.
ascii_field: hell, i don't find it esp. appetizing, either.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field there are two undistinguishable reasons for silent answer. one's that no one heard.
assbot: Logged on 20-08-2015 13:16:47; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245242 << can't wait for the 'i am usg stoolie and will be stoned to death if $leak is leaked'
ascii_field: when i wrote that essay, and there was no positive reaction to it, i concluded that bitcoin users are just too fond of fellating the invisible cock of the anonymous microshit vs wizard, to care half a damn
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=20-08-2015#1245331 << mebbe a blessing, this. sometimes mine takes 3 hours, i'm on like the fifth cup of very milky capuccino...
ascii_field: it also occurs to me that an anti-bombed bitcoin is only a hardfork ~if~ the bomb falls.
mircea_popescu: "does it grow on dead body ? " "ayep" "then it's dangerous weapon for usg"
ascii_field: there is exactly one weapon.
ascii_field: (not carried out, because they weren't morons..)
ascii_field: i, for instance, am not any more thrilled about satoshi's blocks being spendable than a german in 1945 was re: the trotyl that hitler ordered planted on everything worth half a broken pfenning
ascii_field: briefly back to earlier thread, i hypothesize that is s-bomb falls, the 'counter-bomb' is a schelling point.
mircea_popescu: the text reads "append as many trailing spaces/tabs/CRs as you like to the clearsigned text"
mircea_popescu: well you can readily see what i added, it's all in there