ascii_field: say, a public www where these can be dropped in a hopper
trinque: ascii_field: maybe in the case where the payload was munged in regards to whitespace or the like ?
pete_dushenski: danielpbarron the only show i wasn't allowed to watch was wwf wrestling
ascii_field: so it is quite impossible to verify that it is valid per se, without having the payload
ascii_field: btw here's another thing to add to the 'gpg is mega-retarded' list: gpg sig does not contain a sig of self !!
ascii_field: punkman: perhaps it does? but iirc the only contributors thus far live in l1
assbot: So who's running the Courts circus ? on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JqCG6a )
mircea_popescu: incidentally, i'd like to remind the esteemed readership, especially those people who would like to make their non-stem degrees useful to the future of this world, that http://trilema.com/2013/so-whos-running-the-courts-circus/ is still open. a significant amout of work has already been put in, help me reward it by completing the task.
ascii_field: and, for the first time ever in history of versionatrons, you can take a tree of unknown constitution and determine what patch set it corresponds to (if any)
ascii_field: both vdiffs and sigs (the former by virtue of having one or more of the latter matching) are immediately attributable to an l1 pubkey
jurov: otherwise, left body empty
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the importance of the thing i intended, roughly, is that ~everything is either a vdiff or a sig~
jurov: if your email client is known not to mutilate text, put clearsigned text into the body instead of first attachemnt
jurov: mircea_popescu: only clearsigned text is mandatory, there can be none or any number of further attachments(not necessarily only patches), each with detached attachment.name.ext.sig
mircea_popescu: and the actual email body - empty ?
pete_dushenski: mod6 aha. so there's hope for us yet !
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: third, if the second exists - a detached .sig for it
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> really, if this wasn't obvious to mod6, ppl like hanbot and i have no chance << this probably should have been obvious to me. but sometimes, hard to see the forest through all of the trees. i've been looking at the compare diff a lot lately, and forgot that /all/ is contained in the genesis.diff.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the actual patch (optional, if the message concerns a patch) - 2nd attach
mircea_popescu: speaking of which, who wants to hold my retarded hand while i do that again ? i forget, what do i do, send an email with the plaintext as body and the detached sigfile as attachment ?
mircea_popescu: ima try to a signing statement once i put it to the ml
mircea_popescu: i kept meaning to do a statement explaining the major importance of that thing but i didn't really find my words with the deed.
mod6: just ran the `patch -p1 < genesis.vpatch` in an empty dir, and then volla, bitcoin source exists
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: do try the new recipe
ascii_field thought this was obvious from the recipe!
mircea_popescu: mod6 the entire idea is it creates it de novo
ascii_field: then compare result with 'chicken'
ascii_field: now make an empty space and fire the diff
mod6: yup, ok. and when I have my own genesis.vdiff, should compare with `diff -u` to the one you posted in your original email? or compare with vdiff?
ascii_field: now, fire the diff
mod6: I can say that your change to vdiff.sh `diff -uNr $1 $2 | awk 'm = /^(---|\+\+\+)/{s="sha512sum \"" $2 "\" 2>/dev/null " | getline x; if (s) { split(x, a, " "); o = a[1]; } else {o = "false";} print $1 " " $2 " " o} !m { print $0 }'` certainly removes the timestamps from the output hashes.
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: for extra lulz, here is a vdiff of the change, taken using the new vdiff, of vdiff.sh ! >>>>> http://dpaste.com/10CMS6H
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 20:57:40; ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: here is an experiment: change ' print $0 " " o ' in vdiff.sh to ' print $1 " " $2 " " o '. this results in timestamp amputation. the patches work fine, except that gnupatch is no longer aware of preexisting files and will happily create the same file twice, if so run, glomming on top of itself.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 03:25:47; asciilifeform: iirc hanbot also had the out-of-order thing with genesis
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller who are you hosting with ?
thestringpuller: so as soon as I figure out the wp thing, i'll have a dedicated blog
thestringpuller: i also bought thestringpuller.com
thestringpuller: no better than tumblr. i just don't like making themes
trinque: which is why today's cock-tease of a market slump does me no good. come on baby, lets have the full rip
ascii_field: trinque: it is in the initial stage, of cementing the precedent, via jailing an already unpopular fella
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller worse than tmmlr ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell ben_vulpes and how is the lovely lady v these days ? staying active i trust ?
assbot: Logged on 26-07-2014 18:48:15; asciilifeform: this is why i simply don't get people who continue to think of their relationship with the u.s. court system in legal, rather than military, terms.
hdbuck: question why would usg need our browzer history via our computer since they already have it all via google
ascii_field: the one law that nobody ever cancelled is 'not caught, not thief'
trinque: so we go from the 5th amendment directly to "you must investigate yourself on behalf of the all powerful state"
trinque: presumably any piece of information can be used in any imaginary investigation of the future
trinque: "Under the law, people are required to preserve any evidence they knowingly believe could be used in future investigations, even if no such investigation has been launched."
trinque: and furthermore
ascii_field: Matanov isn’t the first person to be sentenced under such circumstances.'
ascii_field: 'The absence of evidence shouldn’t be viewed as proof of guilt, but tell that to the U.S. federal court—where Khairullozhon Matanov received a 30-month sentence in mid-June, in part for deleting his browser history. Though he wasn’t an accomplice in the Boston bombing, the FBI charged that the friend of the Tsarnaev brothers with obstructing justice by destroying evidence in the case. That evidence inc
ascii_field: if folks are happy with this result, i will re-create and sign the entire shebang tomorrow.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ascii_field: also i recommend changing the last line of the script to LC_ALL=C ./vdiff.sh a b > genesis.vpatch
ascii_field: for both from-vacuum creation of files (as in 'genesis') and the later patches.
ascii_field: but the resulting vpatches work, when applied with conventional gnupatch
ascii_field: mod6, ben_vulpes, mircea_popescu, et al: here is an experiment: change ' print $0 " " o ' in vdiff.sh to ' print $1 " " $2 " " o '. this results in timestamp amputation. the patches work fine, except that gnupatch is no longer aware of preexisting files and will happily create the same file twice, if so run, glomming on top of itself.
cazalla: "We are going to have taxation officials travel around the world visiting these companies asking them to register for GST purposes," federal Treasurer Joe Hockey said.
cazalla: retail is rightfully dying here, so i guess they think this will shore up the taxes they're losing from that sector.. i am more curious to find out if it'll be applied to steam games and in-game purchases
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-21/gst-to-be-applied-to-all-products-services-sold-by-vendors/6715582 <<< yet another reason australia sucks
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 18:46:15; phf: i use to like vice do's&don't's, they were mean and funny. i always thought vice was magazine version of the whole terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam trash" photography, but that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense that they would be faux edgy tech articles, no better or worse then any other online rag, but i can't get over the image of hipsters on heroin writing that shit
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247400 <<< the guy who founded it (gavin mccines) got shoved out by the sjw who now operate it
trinque: ideas, man... they're powerful
trinque: http://abcnews.go.com/US/slender-man-stabbing-teens-enter-pleas-adult-court/story?id=33225373 << wasn't it 4chan or the like that invented "slender man" ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
trinque: and I think I'll continue to just make all the decisions rather than offer options, and then describe how one might proceed from there on their own, if they so desire
trinque: this weekend I'm going to put together a rudimentary site for trinque.org and gather a few of the tools I've built there
phf: i use to like vice do's&don't's, they were mean and funny. i always thought vice was magazine version of the whole terry richardson, merlin bronques "glam trash" photography, but that was still cool in 2004-2006. i guess it would make sense that they would be faux edgy tech articles, no better or worse then any other online rag, but i can't get over the image of hipsters on heroin writing that shit
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: but easier to get uranium from the sea.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: was digging for traces of sanity in there
mircea_popescu: I had a TS clearance at Lockheed, and you have no idea what questions they asked. "Have you ever fucked a sheep?" << to which the only acceptable answer is, "does your mother count".
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why patent nonsense read by fewer people than are involved in writing it keeps somehow creeping into the conversation. but this sort of masochism of the intellectual is both ridiculous and overplayed already.
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 15:19:42; BingoBoingo: Not even wrong: "However, the question of whether miners and pools will support that increase in the form of XT, a fork of Bitcoin Core, remains. It currently has 13.7% of bitcoin's hashing power behind it." << https://archive.is/41s4u
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247281 << yeah, because numbers can be anything. for instance by this procedure motherboard has a readership. which fallacy gets a strangely memory-holed alf toi keep linking to it as if it were a thing, somehow.
mircea_popescu: the only thing that matters re propaganda is whether it gets repeated. that's 100% of it.
mircea_popescu: not like they have an actual perspective or anything to say
mircea_popescu: not so naturally. why is the thing still getting links i don't get it ?
mircea_popescu: somehow they never heard about more recent events.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field the motherboard article you linked says "satoshi" exactly once, ands that is to claim "and Satoshi showed with some basic calculations that hardware improvements were very likely to outpace Bitcoin growth for decades into the future."
thestringpuller: dunno if the buttcoiners hate or love #b-a
mircea_popescu chuckles at the thought of some [not so ?] distant time in the future when various derps will discover that "nobody could have predicted" they had a lengthy record of shit to answer for in the logs.
mircea_popescu: i am asking them.
mircea_popescu: a 2nd league hockey team could probably beat up the argentine armed forces.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1247230 << well, on the good news front, they never had any military capability to begin with
mircea_popescu: but at some time, back when the stupid parents of the current generation were yet illiterate, english was a pleasure to read.
mircea_popescu: you know looking back... i remember a time when anglo web produced a lower proportion of articles that don't crash and burn in the first paragraph.
mircea_popescu: "This Nonsensical Linguistic Construction (NLC) and American college campuses share a deplorable commonality: they both confuse referents"
mircea_popescu: "The Federadion of Mosquitoes, Lice and Ticks (FMLT) and American college campuses share a deplorable commonality: they both suck"
mircea_popescu: "Survival Hunters and Gatherers Above the Arctic (SHGAA) and American college campuses share a deplorable commonality: they both walk on thin ice."
mircea_popescu: these people are an insult to humanity.
mircea_popescu: ajhahaha wut the fuck already.
mircea_popescu: "The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) and American college campuses share a deplorable commonality: high frequencies of rape."
mircea_popescu: i have nfi who these guys are, they didn't have the modicum of a clue to make contact or anything. for all i know the whole thing's an orchestrated attempt to shore up the notion that anyone still gives a shit about the usg inside the us.
ascii_field: it is even possible for both hypotheses to be true simultaneously
ascii_field: the next multicolourphone.
ascii_field: 'stand up to the establishment!'
ascii_field: alternatively, disinfo to make idiots dig up the 900Mhz thing and use it
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the basic thread is that usg is understandably unhappy about violations of the 'diddlable sop standard'
mircea_popescu: ascii_field yes, lame. but the thinking seems to be, it's no big deal if special people have machine guns, it's a big deal if common people have slingshots.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> dope would be one thing, but this guy smokes the carpeting. << likely smokes dope from a pipe carged out of a crack rock
ascii_field: mats: the man runs winblowz. by own admission.
mats: >The old arts of spying has really disappeared, my favorite is Android, for ease-of-use. The first thing I do is root it with towelroot to remove update capabilities, then remove bloatware, then unroot it of course.
ascii_field: fiddybux for the whole thing
mircea_popescu: "Late Friday, the Twitter feed for Rhino Security, the consultancy run by the projects creator Ben Caudill, announced that Caudills talk was being pulled from the DefCon line-up, and that the ProxyHam project was being called off. Effective immediately, we are halting further dev on #proxyham and will not be releasing any further details or source for the device, the message read. Existing #proxyham unit
ascii_field: the linoleum
mircea_popescu: dope would be one thing, but this guy smokes the carpeting.
ascii_field: mats: the man smokes dope
mats: he keeps talking about the proxyham wtf
mircea_popescu: guy's prolly laboured for two weeks to make that thing, which he perhaps sees as "in the best us civilisation tradition".
mircea_popescu: https://medium.com/@spair/increasing-the-block-size-limit-85ff236fc516 << read the source at any rate.
mircea_popescu: they've been in favour of preferably nobody remembering they exist until this goes away.
ascii_field: 'There's going to be a shitload of stuff going down. The hacker said they were going to release. If it were me, I'd had come clean immediately to my wife. I had a TS clearance at Lockheed, and you have no idea what questions they asked. "Have you ever fucked a sheep?". When the OPM hack happened, I wrote an article where I came clean to everything.'
chetty: a tad more blatant than the usg methods
ascii_field: for the $2M again. I should have done that rather than tell him to get the fuck off my property.'
ascii_field: 'There is nothing illegal that the government there is not into. The government is smart if you just go there as an American you will not be bothered. I lived in the jungles where I was the only white person, and they were on to me. They asked me for $2M, weeks later 40+ armed men stormed my house, shot my favorite dog, and held me in the sun with my hands tied. The next day the congressman came and apoligized and asked
assbot: The second Ashley Madison leak is mostly source code | The Verge ... ( http://bit.ly/1MDdqdL )
ascii_field: http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/20/9185469/ashley-madison-leak-contents-email-archive-biderman
assbot: Marc Hochstein on Twitter: ""Regulating use of bitcoin at the protocol level" -- would pretty much ruin it http://t.co/hfN1QCo8NT" ... ( http://bit.ly/1JaCA15 )
BingoBoingo: I love finding out who reads Qntra sometimes, take this example of the editor of American Banker https://archive.is/3zJWA
BingoBoingo: Not even wrong: "However, the question of whether miners and pools will support that increase in the form of XT, a fork of Bitcoin Core, remains. It currently has 13.7% of bitcoin's hashing power behind it." << https://archive.is/41s4u
assbot: Is there a video with a panel discussion about the block size BIPs, fork drama, etc.? Is there demand for one? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4R59J )
punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3hu0k1/is_there_a_video_with_a_panel_discussion_about/
assbot: How Bitcoin Could Make Distributing a Universal Basic Income Actually Possible | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4IXGm )
asciilifeform: what a peculiar fishwrap. i read, for instance, the linked piece, http://motherboard.vice.com/read/how-bitcoin-could-make-distributing-a-universal-basic-income-actually-possible -- and kept waiting for the mention of where they plan to steal it... didn't see one
assbot: Bitcoin Core Devs in ‘Civil War’ Insist We’re Not Getting The Whole Story | Motherboard ... ( http://bit.ly/1U4HSyf )
asciilifeform: http://motherboard.vice.com/read/bitcoin-core-devs-in-civil-war-insist-were-not-getting-the-whole-story << mega-lulz
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://bitcoinist.net/bitpay-favor-merging-bip-101-bitcoin-core << >> time to stop feeding them ?
asciilifeform: 'We describe three new occurrences of the sexual coercion of king penguins (Aptenodytes patagonicus) by Antarctic fur seals (Arctocephalus gazella) on sub-Antarctic Marion Island. These recurrent observations follow a common pattern where the seal chases, captures and mounts the penguin, followed by copulation attempts. These observations are similar to a previously published observation from the same island, and we suggest th
kakobrekla: someone else that sees garbage on chan pls to paste the log link to assbot pvt msg and tell me what you get
kakobrekla: eh how the fuck
chetty: you know its interesting how argentina demonstrates normality ..all of the hoopla about what if 'greece' or whoevers todays whipping boy defaults ..not much, life goes on really
mats: >2012 saw the training ship ARA Libertad seized in Ghana on the orders of a hedge fund seeking reparations from the Argentinian government. Shortly afterward, the corvette ARA Espora was stranded in South Africa for seventy-three days after the German company hired to repair a mechanical fault refused to carry out the work as a result of the Argentine
mats: in other news, I have perfected my Japanese Curry recipe
punkman: "The problem is staggering. According to a White House report, one in five women (20 percent) is sexually assaulted in college. Around 5 percent of men report being sexually assaulted on campus as well."
mircea_popescu: but enough laughs for today. tomorrow is another lolday!
assbot: Mycelium_Running comments on Degenerate gambler Mircea Popescu muses about how female monkeys love their rapists but will attack beta males: "No female monkey that's been raped, even if regularly and consistently, ever attacks the rapist." ... ( http://bit.ly/1JmBegE )
fluffypony: shinohai: why would we want to eat the youth in Asia?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246340 <<< jesus christ, put the poor bastard out of his misery instead
kakobrekla: shitload of pages has this in their tos ... ' if you came here, you agree with all what we say below: you are a dick. '
kakobrekla: thats pretty much the standard
shinohai: isn't this the same genius that tried to sell bible coin or some shit by issuing fake shares?
fluffypony: by continuing to read this sentence you acknowledge and agree to the aforementioned terms, if you do not agree with them you should have stopped reading like 3 sentences back
mircea_popescu: punkman by reading this you agree not to agree with the ideal herp derp whateverthefuck.
punkman: "By downloading and/or executing the Ideal Reserve Clearinghouse application, you agree to the following terms: You will not attempt to reverse engineer the Ideal Reserve Clearinghouse application."
assbot: The Ideal Reserve - a decentralized, instantaneous, price stable, cryptocurrency ... ( http://bit.ly/1HZobAQ )
punkman: "Creator of The Ideal Reserve with about a decade of experience in applied economics, over a decade of experience in finance, and over two decades of experience in technology."
mircea_popescu: i think the woman is deeply insulted.
punkman: nobody wants the job eh
assbot: Exploring the Wreck of USS Macon, The Navy's Last Flying Aircraft Carrier - USNI News ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIZDqW )
punkman: for dirigible aficionados http://news.usni.org/2015/08/19/exploring-the-wreck-of-uss-macon-the-navys-last-flying-aircraft-carrier
assbot: Meet 'Deez Nuts,' the Teen Presidential Candidate Punking America | Rolling Stone ... ( http://bit.ly/1WIZfZv )
punkman: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/meet-deez-nuts-the-teen-presidential-candidate-punking-america-20150819
mircea_popescu: punkman 20 cpm is outrageous anyway. they could get maybe 3.5 or something.
mircea_popescu: wait. tidd ?! da fuck is tidd doing there. and donfried roflmao. omfg this is the elephant funeral already.
mircea_popescu: and the mcdonalds happy meal diet clearly isn't agreeing with nuland.
scoopbot_revived: I killed one, I'm publishing another, who the hell knows what's going on anymore. http://trilema.com/2015/i-killed-one-im-publishing-another-who-the-hell-knows-whats-going-on-anymore/
mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Secretary_Kerry_Meets_With_Ukrainian_Opposition_Leaders_in_Munich_(12253362394).jpg << dude check them out, they met in a tourist furnished studio thing.
punkman: "Snapchat’s ad rates have declined rapidly. This month the company announced it would start to charge $20 per 1,000 views, a fraction of its earlier price, agencies say."
mircea_popescu: are they in jail yet ?
mircea_popescu: what the fucking omf.
punkman: Ancient greek class, at least as I remember it, never focused on the sounds. It was more "here's 150 grammar rules to memorize"
mircea_popescu: ("sweeter omega", realy, in the words of my very old classics teacher, but that'd be a term of art)
punkman: I'm bad at the whole making sounds thing, but I suppose ω would be slightly longer than ο
punkman: well I dunno if it that was the case 500 years ago, certainly not today
mircea_popescu: IPA notation's not even exact enough to capture how close the two final vowels ACTUALLY are.
Vexual: pinch your lighter in the nightime like a fucking bum
punkman: Vexual: are they too poor for butane?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246926 I can't even remember all the things I tried to burn with magn. glass
Vexual: hows the ratraces cazalla?
Vexual: phf: some dick owns the rights
Vexual: crankin the barbie i guess?
BingoBoingo: 0.8 introduced the leveldb bullshit
Vexual: joecool, the answer presents itself
BingoBoingo: joecool: With the anticipated spam attacks ideally you will want to bolt the Ophanage amputation and thermonuke modifications to whatever you choose. Also make sure you fix the BDB locks problem in your chose codebase. Anything post 0.3.21 and pre 0.8 should be fine. If you don't have particular things you fuss over 0.5.4'stator/rotor' is probably as close to idea as you will come
BingoBoingo: <joecool> what's the ideal bitcoind version to run nodes with nowadays? << Either 'stator' with protocol ticked to 99999 or anything with a lulzy version string
joecool: what's the ideal bitcoind version to run nodes with nowadays?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell asciilifeform How do you handle an overloaded dosimeter? I've just kind of been ignoring it but the burns and nausea are piling up.
BingoBoingo: "This city is highly dependent on sales tax, and where a business will be operating under a conditional use permit due to parking and traffic considerations, we feel it reasonable that it pays a PILOT (payment in lieu of taxes)," City Administrator Bob Shelton said. "The medical service fees are not taxable but when the practices sell items, sales tax is involved."
BingoBoingo: Oh how the bezzle changes http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/dermatologist-agrees-to-sales-tax-deal-with-frontenac/article_cb22f6bc-fe3e-5c12-b65f-1ef832f09590.html
gribble: Janis Joplin - Me and Bobby McG - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHRg_iSWzM>; Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose - Genius: <http://genius.com/1028439/Janis-joplin-me-and-bobby-mcgee/Freedoms-just-another-word-for-nothing-left-to-lose>; Kris Kristofferson – Me and Bobby McGee Lyrics | Genius: <http://genius.com/Kris-kristofferson-me-and-bobby- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: ;;google freedom's just another name for nothing left to lose
mircea_popescu: once that absolute last hope is lost, suddenly they're all saints somehow. da fuck.
mircea_popescu: for as long as there's even the faintest hope of maybe one day scamming someone, every last human being is 100% jwz.
mircea_popescu: how this shit works, where truth only ends up spoken by the thoroughly disgraced, is my favourite mystery of nature.
mircea_popescu: this thing is only notable because the guy is exactly correct in what he says. but he's easily the least frequentable name in romanian politics, short of actual mental cases. and this not in a good way - he truly is reprehensible.
mircea_popescu: http://www.ziartricolorul.ro/fostul-ministru-de-externe-adrian-severin-da-lovitura-de-gratie-amestecului-brutal-al-yankeilor-in-justitia-romana/ << obscure romanian fringe thing, printing the letter an obscure romanian twerp (caught in corruption probe, kicked out of eu parliament, as the last phase of his public decay - only ended up in the eu parliament because at the time that's where romania sent all its bankrupt n
mircea_popescu: they've heard of one potemkin but not another, they know of this but not that, they're familiar with queens but don't think the brooklyn bridge exists, stuff like that.
mircea_popescu: the very approximative knowledge in humanities of the english speaking folk, at both astroturf and crackpot/armchair general level never ceases to amaze me.
mircea_popescu: btw, i have been wondering since the stuff started : how is it that tatar-bunar's never mentioned re the ukrainian situation ?
asciilifeform: nah it's him hammering the ground with his face (falling down drunk)
mircea_popescu: is the "face down fight" a sort of fucking ?
mircea_popescu: but hey, the nationalistic ambitions of victoria, regina horsefucker.
asciilifeform: complain to them, not me, l0l
assbot: Logged on 21-08-2015 04:56:04; mircea_popescu: "Maid of Athens, ere we part, give, oh, give back my heart! Or, since that has left my breast... keep it now, and take the rest! Hear my vow before I go, ζωή μου, σᾶς ἀγαπῶ."
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-08-2015#1246988 >> i was taught that english call this item 'macaronic poem.' in my mind, the iconic instance is pelevin's 'my sister, do you still recall как Ельцин бился мордой в пол ?'
mats: welp, the way building codes makes shit safer, you just end up jerking off in the firehouse or starting a business on the job
BingoBoingo: <mats> lots became firefighters after, to chase the thrill << The one part of the Nordic system that works always. Once people get hooked on the thrill you don't have to pay them in anything other than opportunity to continue.
mircea_popescu: "Maid of Athens, ere we part, give, oh, give back my heart! Or, since that has left my breast... keep it now, and take the rest! Hear my vow before I go, ζωή μου, σᾶς ἀγαπῶ."
mats: lots became firefighters after, to chase the thrill
mats: their entire deployment
mircea_popescu: it's lulzier to propose to people that "lightning could never strike aeroplane - what's to close the circuit ?!?!?!"
asciilifeform: it is lulzy to show this gadget to students/n00bz with a piece of metal uncontacted by any ground on the other side, and nice tall spark
BingoBoingo: of course, how could it be invented otherwise
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the basic concept was introduced in early '40s and not changed since.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> not mega-surprise, proper medical gear was scarce. << Still rather state of the art.
asciilifeform: (apparatus where a small tesla coil craps out high-freq current which burns out, e.g., a mole; what closes the circuit? ~you~, as an antenna!)
asciilifeform: my mother (was a dermatologist) had one of these ^ modified as a radiothermal cauterizer
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Yeah mythology. Stalin was an evolution of Peter's empty facades and clumsy imitation of the west.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo the crimean event was pre-ww2.
asciilifeform: but i had, brother's, at home
mircea_popescu: actually needs the fire-enabling resin.
asciilifeform: gotta be dry and sans the 'fire-resisting' crud
asciilifeform: can give kid (chemically untreated - go, find, in usa) wooden plank, in lieu of ants, if the latter cannot be had
asciilifeform: mats: gotta be around the size of your palm, to work reliably
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> how did they hear of crimean potemkin but not of the great red ship ? who knows. << Cold War culture. Those ruskies love playing pretend...
asciilifeform: otherwise, just frustrating.
mircea_popescu: it's funny what of the outside world makes it in.
asciilifeform: maxim of the day: only visit anthill with a magnifying glass in your pocket.
mircea_popescu: i had nfi what the anglos are trying to say by "potemkin", which is a common enough name, among people with an actual culture.
BingoBoingo: Also... apparently there is a smart shaming subreddit
mircea_popescu: fun fact, since for some reason i'm doing history now. romania's head rabi (niemirower) died in 1940. he was succeded by one alex safran, who was 29 at that time. and by virtue of being head rabi, the young man also had an ex officio seat in the romanian senate. but for not being yet 40 years of age as the senate required, he asked for, and obtained, a special derrogation from the high chamber of cassation. and was sea
mircea_popescu: then do not protest my rarities!
asciilifeform: the last time i 'asked around', i discovered folks who didn't know who won ww2.
mircea_popescu: mostly, yes. more effectually, it came with the #include that you'll be a father to her kids.
asciilifeform: but this came with the #include of cocks of low rank not daring to ask
mircea_popescu: (also let me mention here, as this may come as a suprirse to my western friends - that in romanian classical society, as well as for that matter most of eastern europe, as well as for that matter all of europe in an earlier, simpler time - it was the height of poor taste for a woman to refuse sexual congress, and a pointed declaration of personal infirmity. sort-of like saying you can't read without your glasses