cazalla: 91 advert views.. 1 response to which no additional response was forthcoming.. you'd think asking for $20 an hour (with room to negoiate for those able to muster the courage to ask would get some work but meh)
asciilifeform: re: pankkakeing: the basic process is, i think, that someone shows up here, plays for a while, then understands that rocket will not come, will not take him to mars. and leaves - unless he had some entirely other reason for sticking around, such as having become embroiled in actual projects with other people here.
cazalla: somewhat the lady doth protest too much?
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 22:39:17; ag3nt_zer0: the kid says, age 6, "you are insulting me"
asciilifeform: but he gave the impression of being somewhat pankkaked even earlier.
cazalla: anyway first decimation, now adlai, but how does a neg from mp preclude anyone from remaining in the channel?
cazalla: asciilifeform, fwiw, it is the gnomes that use flying machines, not so much orcs.. "i've got a flying machine!"
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 07:03:34; mircea_popescu: i guess us research facilities don't hold the actual scientists, us civil service doesn't hold the actual politicians and us prisons don't hold the actual prisoners. they're all in meta-usa, the meta-nsa, meta-criminals and generally an entire country-equivalent of actually competewnt dopplegangers.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254314 << laugh, but all of this has to be in some sense true, or the place would be indistinguishable from zimbabwe. i just looked out my window. i do not - yet - see zimbabwe. ergo some 'meta-' is in the mix.
asciilifeform: and must remember that orcs (the more unhinged, for this purpose, the better) keep up real estate bubble by fact of their mere existence.
asciilifeform: (maintain terror among the white tax base)
asciilifeform: the orcs who shoot at local cops are - all but formally - salaried employees of usg. doing what they were paid for.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ... the whole thing's a small nudge or ten away from people with guns realizing that cops hate getting shot at ... << important to distinguish city police (the folks presently getting shot at) from fed gendarmerie (alphabet soup) - the latter just ~love~ it, on account of it giving them an excuse to waco. all that armour, heavy weaponry, poison gas, flying machines that they've stockpiled, they'd love to use.
cazalla: so border force as in protect the borders, can only come in if buying vastly inflated real estate okay?
cazalla: fluffypony, the coppers were planning to go around asking people "papers, please" and this lot of degens put a stop to it lol
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 04:59:12; trinque: this "zapchain" is another idiotic user-generated content site, looks like
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254251 <<< it is funded by boost VC, that start up school where kid draper pisses away daddy draper's money on shit on awful ideas like zapchain itself and follow the coin.. boost VC pivoted to cover VR tech so zapchain is also covering VR these days as well!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
cazalla: ;;later tell moonpunter ya never did answer my question asking if you are the same madore from cryptocoinsnews
cazalla: ;later tell moonpunter ya never did answer my question asking if you are the same madore from cryptocoinsnews
mircea_popescu: not like if they absolutely had to move korean meth for some fucking reason they'd move it into russian siberia like sane fucking people.
mircea_popescu: eh why do i even bother
mircea_popescu: (and yes, everyone who ever thought about it stockpiles drugs in the phillipines, because hey, support infrastructure is cvasi-absent owing to the lazy ineptitude of the locals, and they got capital punishment for it too. not like you could fucking make it in mexico and ship it across the border, owing to the fact that
mircea_popescu: same fucking thing, to the dot.
mircea_popescu: Stammers scheme ended not with the North Korean methamphetamine flooding American streets as he had intended, but rather with a guilty plea in a Manhattan federal court, Bharara said in a statement. << "we got another five retards to confess to imaginary crimes we dreamed up ; they will cost the state 100k a year for the next 10 years up to as long as they live. and i expect to get a bonus", some dumbass india
mircea_popescu: dude who the fuck exports meth. what retardation is this.
mircea_popescu: i guess us research facilities don't hold the actual scientists, us civil service doesn't hold the actual politicians and us prisons don't hold the actual prisoners. they're all in meta-usa, the meta-nsa, meta-criminals and generally an entire country-equivalent of actually competewnt dopplegangers.
mircea_popescu: Being able to hear an alarm, being able to drop to the ground if youre ordered to do so, those are prison activities of daily living that if you cant do, you can get in a lot of trouble,
mircea_popescu: " It's part of the audit process, it's part of the intelligence phase that is part of being part of a national organization."
mircea_popescu: "oh life in prison is such a win for the government!" "reheheheally ? eeenjoy."
mircea_popescu: "Finding new ways to treat the growing pool of older, ailing inmates." heh.
mircea_popescu: stupid bitch's not even got the basics of 4chan down, what " Thought Leader & Advisor: Bitcoin and Block chain Technolgies"
assbot: Strategy for the antisocial struggle. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JAwmEP )
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> [...] << the whole thing's a small nudge << http://trilema.com/2015/strategy-for-the-antisocial-struggle/
punkman: “We know his goal is to make America great again,” a woman said. “It’s on his hat. And we see it every time it’s on TV. Everything that he’s doing, there’s no doubt why he’s doing it: it’s to make America great again.”
punkman: and the answer is yes http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2469736/Cops-bust-dealers-40lbs-BLUE-meth--just-like-Walter-Whites-famous-formula-Breaking-Bad.html
punkman: "Preet Bharara thanked authorities in Liberia, Romania and Thailand for assisting with the US investigation."
assbot: Briton Scott Stammers pleads guilty to North Korean drug smuggling plot | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jng9Un )
punkman: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/briton-scott-stammers-pleads-guilty-to-north-korean-drug-smuggling-plot
assbot: 'Nazi gold train': Poland asks treasure hunters to stop search | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1JnftOP )
punkman: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/27/nazi-gold-train-poland-asks-treasure-hunters-stop-search
ben_vulpes: bulk of the project is a mongo -> postgresql conversion
thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: when you say rescue project...you mean rescue them from those technologies right?
phf: we had this girl in the country house area, who every summer would be into the most pop thing of the time. we'd play a game, end of may when you get there, ask her if she's into whatever trashy thing at the time, "oooh, i love it how did you know". can do same with full stack developers by scanning hackernews frontpage
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller i'm bidding on a coffee script + mongodb + mongoose + nodejs + angular rescue project
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 03:14:58; asciilifeform: a 'release' is merely a particular kind of vpatch which deliberately touches a desired set of leaves, and turns into a leaf set which, when selected, produces the sought after tree.
thestringpuller: it's like some college dropout went through github and chose every web technology that seemed "fun" at the time regarding php.
thestringpuller: The code is so poor it works differently on all three environments, so the only way to truly know if it works is to test on production.
ben_vulpes: what's dev other than your laptop?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254179 << asciilifeform, breaking the tradition of bitcoin crapware and now the b-a 'test in production only' deployment philosophy!
ben_vulpes muses on the notion of hanbot wearing something ill-fitting
assbot: When Prisons Need to Be More Like Nursing Homes | The Marshall Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jnee2b )
punkman: https://www.themarshallproject.org/2015/08/27/when-prisons-need-to-be-more-like-nursing-homes
punkman: "College campuses on gun lockdowns today: Mississippi State, Texas Southern, Savannah State."
trinque: this "zapchain" is another idiotic user-generated content site, looks like
phf: qntra should hire a buxom lady with an ill fitting shawl for cto then
phf: no, but would be appropriate given the prose style
thestringpuller: who rips off kill bill these days...
thestringpuller: phf: does she really say that in the video?
assbot: Logged on 28-08-2015 02:14:58; moonpunter: well this thing that just happened in ferguson, where the cops showed up with overwhelming force and the kid decided to shoot at them before he died. it's like at what point are you allowed to defend yourself if you are reasonably certain you're going to die.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1254018 << the whole thing's a small nudge or ten away from people with guns realizing that cops hate getting shot at, the state hates cops getting shot at, and generally anyone with the stones to make an effort to rack up up a body count on their way out stands an even chance of not even having to go out
trinque: you've got a giant wad of incomprehensible shit, so at least if you snapshot the turd at various life-stages you can return to one when you've screwed up everything
phf: keep shit in dedicated buckets, poor it from one into another
phf: i think the idea makes sense for development in general, i mean "full stack" crowd approximates it by running a vm with the stack
asciilifeform: phf: a number of folks here were introduced to the concept for the first time when they met with 'pogo'
asciilifeform: trinque: ... the right fit of concepts << sometimes called 'orthogonality'
asciilifeform: <phf> mats: dos dev is sop multimachine. if you read early gamedev reminiscence professional setup almost always involved two machines, the dev environment and the game testing machine, with some rapid way to synchronize the two... <<< this is how 'embedded' work is still done, and imho it is the correct way to program
trinque: shows it's not just minimalism that's to be sought, but precisely the right fit of concepts.
asciilifeform: or, in the case of flow graph, examine visually.
asciilifeform: and, notably, never alters them
asciilifeform: trinque: importantly, 'v' is stateless other than the three directories spoken of earlier.
trinque: git for example, sure, has a tree in it, which is to say the monstrously large pile of git concepts has a sort of tree-like structure in it, among myriad other things
phf: mats: dos dev is sop multimachine. if you read early gamedev reminiscence professional setup almost always involved two machines, the dev environment and the game testing machine, with some rapid way to synchronize the two. not that are you necessarily limited to a single task at a time, you can load a tsr to perform a handful of auxiliary task, like notes or calculator or whatever. i think that's how "widgets" were implemented in apple's system
asciilifeform: so far it is ~one page, of 'python' prog. lang., if anyone has something else they would like to see it in, write to me
asciilifeform: i have already written the 'mathematical' portion. which actually snarfs up and computers the graph flows, and checks sigs
asciilifeform: (in the sense of, people who are not writing these, but desire to make some sense of what has been written.)
asciilifeform: a 'release' is merely a particular kind of vpatch which deliberately touches a desired set of leaves, and turns into a leaf set which, when selected, produces the sought after tree.
asciilifeform: which corresponds to a particular set of leaf nodes in the dependencyflowgraph.
asciilifeform: thing does exactly three basic kinds of thing - verifies sigs; determines what subcoagulations of spittle in the spittoon are in fact in single strands; and permits operator to select individual strands, and cut'em (by whatever criteria, including signatories or combinations thereof)
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i am saying these things with the secret hope of weaseling out of writing a manual later. << I though this is what danielpbarron does
assbot: Many Pools Rejecting XT in Favor of Other Undefined Fork | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRXjJu )
BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/08/many-pools-rejecting-xt-in-favor-of-other-undefined-fork/#comment-46931 << Replying to our Nigerian Prince
asciilifeform: i am saying these things with the secret hope of weaseling out of writing a manual later.
asciilifeform: sigs - another.
asciilifeform: patches live in another dir.
mircea_popescu: very much exactly this. there's a line from me somewhere in log going "all i want to figure out is what keys"
asciilifeform: get the files. place in dir.
asciilifeform: who they are - i've no idea.
mircea_popescu: but hey, we're also the only ones to want to have the P, because everyone else just needs summaries and narratives.
asciilifeform: in other nyooz, Π(∀n) broke past 1GB
mircea_popescu: yes, they matter for the bureaucrats who'd like to pass for mds, and which are presented as such by the state much like the guy in a white coat is presented as "a scientist" by advertising execs
mircea_popescu: as far as i'm concerned, as the MD i'm not actually, the bizarro notions re "add" and whatnot inthe dsm make exactly 0 difference.
asciilifeform: (best defined as states of mind rather than the particulars of physical manipulations, which tend to be superficially very similar - and often enough, exactly identical)
asciilifeform: the phase transition is interesting in that there is a great interval where chemists, alchemists - coexist
mircea_popescu: not because they're simply ignored ?
mircea_popescu: so in this perspective chemistry is only clean of alchemists because time offed them ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform should i also impale the ugly/stupid women ? on my own dime ? what else ?
asciilifeform: but you do. of legionaries. to impale the pseudoscientists.
mircea_popescu: i didn't need a legion of anybody either. http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-deal-with-pseudoscience/
asciilifeform: 'Should I ever strike it rich enough to endow a foundation, I would pay legions of trained statisticians to go through the literature and eviscerate the mountains of bad research and arrive at the truth. If Universities were interested in advancing human knowledge, rather than circle jerks with a football team, theyd fund entire departments of people who do nothing but this.'
asciilifeform: st two people on this list are complete scientific frauds. Probably, most of them are.'
asciilifeform: s subjects, like, you know, me, the buxom Russian girl reading Dirac in the corner, the options trader eating a sandwich, and the girl pouring the coffee, who is studying mathematics. This indicates to me that such people are so abysmally stupid and unaware of their own deficiencies, they couldnt achieve a scientific result if they actually tried to do so. Have a click on this link for the UCB psychology department: at lea
asciilifeform: 'I have often heard learned psychology department dunderheads stating what the result of their paper will be, and instructing their underlings to mine the data for p-values. I suppose they may have thought themselves speaking over the heads of the rabble, since nobody else from their department was visible. Mind you, they did this in a public place, in a town which is filled to the nostrils with people with training in rigorou
asciilifeform: in other nyooz,
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: this psa brought to you by the pussycat association of cattycorner, wiltshire.
mircea_popescu: how to annoy large dogs : while dog is in front and you're sitting in back seat, wait for it to stick its muzzle through the headrest, at which point put a strip of bacon flush on it. hide it once he withdraws. repeat.
mircea_popescu: and this very specifically means learning to avoid the numerous "learn statistics nao!" scamtraps, from bayesian bullshit to what have you.
asciilifeform: trinque: ... been in the position of having my doors checked, and I waited it out << i've lived in a 'burglary' street since last may - good share of the houses featured in city hall's 'crime map.' but for some reason nobody ever 'checked' my door
mircea_popescu: but, that aside. the logical next step, after learning arithmetics, from a "i'd rather not be robbed blind by everyone i meet" is learning statistics.
asciilifeform: could be - the pot
asciilifeform: and the demise of physics as an organized discipline
assbot: How to fail - the Scott Locklin method. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1MRUbgH )
mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-fail-the-scott-locklin-method/#selection-229.46-229.131
mircea_popescu: i don't remember what exact "bitcoin jesus" nonsense he had in his schedule, but i do recall i made the judgement the person can not possibly be intellectually respectable.
trinque: sure, I've been in the position of having my doors checked, and I waited it out
mircea_popescu: for she was in a diner and a guy tried to rob it, so the old woman got out a colt and blew the would-be robber's brain all over the wall
mircea_popescu: incidentally, as i went to texas, they were just having a celebration in the little town, mayor was giving an old woman some award
mircea_popescu: trinque the notion of not shooting an armed person is still very foreign to me. if you got a gun and i got a gun i AM killing you and then we can figure it out.
trinque: so you can get shot in the back
mircea_popescu: pretty sure serbia/ukraina are the same way
mircea_popescu: historically, if you're too lousy to do it yourself the police hold him down and then check if you want to prosecute.
mircea_popescu: romanian tradition of beating the shit of the burglar before calling police was still strong last i saw.
trinque: we forgot to carry the 1!
trinque: and it's telling how on-message the various supposedly distinct news outlets are
trinque: the financial "news" lately has been chock-full of lol
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> was 2 something <<< the unit being barrels of dried tobacco, or what
kakobrekla: in theory here you can go to a supermarket or a hotel or whatever, sit down in the middle and 'claim your space'.
mircea_popescu: how exactly they figure this washes is anyone's guess by this point. what growth ? the us has been contracting since 1995
mircea_popescu: and btw, the us gdp went up to 3 something while we were talking.
moonpunter: i signed a contract with the landlord, he violated it in several ways and attempted to violate it in more. he was disappointed when he figured out i didn't need his apartment, and most definitely stole some of my property left there before the move-out date, then lied to police about it. we don't need anymore laws protecting landlords where i live.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the same shithole.
trinque: yeah, I've heard of the squatting thing too
trinque: they've got all kinds of that here
asciilifeform: meanwhile, at the l0lphactory,
kakobrekla: nope and its a real pain. i know of a (a bit special) case where landlord can not get the lodger out. not legally. even if he doesnt pay.
moonpunter: thoreau wrote in depth about the value of the commons. i tend to defer to him. in mass. they say you have to call the cops before you can even think about defending yourself, even if the person is in your home.
mircea_popescu: i thought beating up burglar is traditional there too ?
mircea_popescu: simple enough to enforce. was the victim on the shooter's property ? fuck the victim, should buy more property next time.
moonpunter: well this thing that just happened in ferguson, where the cops showed up with overwhelming force and the kid decided to shoot at them before he died. it's like at what point are you allowed to defend yourself if you are reasonably certain you're going to die.
trinque: I certainly *personally* agree that there are frivolous reasons to judge a person.
moonpunter: i think the law should be blind to all existential things and apply to human action. if you harm another person in someway, violate their inalienable rights, that should be criminal, no matter who you are.
BingoBoingo: Well, in most rural places it isn't just the money. It's whether you're the sort who should have money or not.
moonpunter: here in Arkansas if you have money you're basically a protected class. my previous landlord is getting away with theft and extortion on a weekly basis. he fucked up when he harassed my wife via text, she's going to sue, the cops said that would be the best way to deal with it.
BingoBoingo: My personal standard for whether something should be a crime or not is Missouri's statewide ban on prosecution for merely being drunk in public. Missouri is more Texas than Texas in this regard.
moonpunter: mostly i just stay home nowadays. graced with virtual office type work. now and then i think about getting one of these cheap office spaces in town, but i'm fine living in my slippers and gym shorts.
moonpunter: i've been through there dozens of times, right, on greyhound several, and everytime i've been to that greyhound station there's been an ambulance and a herd of cops. every time.
trinque: and admittedly as a white male, it doesn't apply to me much there.
trinque: I know in certain places in Texas it's rather easy to get arrested for looking the wrong way, or being drunk in the wrong place.
moonpunter: cops don't even know what laws they're enforcing, most of them act on emotion, professionalism lacking, institutional racism, extortionist tactics at the jail - $3.00 per minute for a phone call in 2014
moonpunter: the justice system is retarded in general.
moonpunter: if you're drunk you're wrong. that's why i've all but quit drinking for the most part.
trinque: what part of the country, if I may ask?
moonpunter: the first time i pissed that cop off i was just telling off this lady that was rude to my wife. i live in a tourist town and we were downtown.
kakobrekla: what the fuck are you doing ?
moonpunter: sometimes they let you out on your own recognition that you are a drunk asshole
kakobrekla: oh, i was right then.
moonpunter: it means going in the back of a car to jail
moonpunter: i actually have lost count, but three times last year by the same local dick.
moonpunter: in fact on tuesday i had my final interview with the TDRL, they're moving me to permanent. oh well.
moonpunter: re-enlisted to go 25d but got a medical discharge before i ever went to school. they let me keep the bonus anyway.
moonpunter: i don't know about any artillery or most of the vehicles; i did maintain my humvee and i was the only truck in the platoon to never break down b/c i didn't mind annoying the mechanics
moonpunter: i trained on us weapons and when i got to the real army i was attached to a mortar platoon, but i only ever dropped one mortar myself, which was pretty awesome
moonpunter: the whole string
moonpunter: dunno what to do with the output i guess
BingoBoingo: moonpunter which part of the process is giving you issues?
mats: i vaguely remember reading a field manual (M2?) where it is possible to adjust which side spits out the rounds but don't recall details, if moonpunter figures out gpg maybe he can tell me
asciilifeform whenever thinking of left-handers-in-the-army, always recalls the medieval spiral staircases which assumed that nobody with a sword will ever be left-handed
BingoBoingo: Or if rifle is popular should be off the shelf commercial parts
asciilifeform: for folks with some money, there are craftsmen who will make oddities like this
mats: BingoBoingo: yeah. but then you run into instances where your weapon is designed to eject shells as though operator is right-handed, and then you catch third degree burns
mircea_popescu: there are known and amply documented cases of mechanical sight misalignment that can't be detected with one eye
BingoBoingo: <mats> some unlucky folks have a dominant eye different than the hand, which can make it difficult to aim << solution is hand yeilds to eye dominance. If left eye dominant shoot left handed.
asciilifeform: 2 eyes, 2x the light
mircea_popescu: it then makes sense to close one eye on top of it.
mats: some unlucky folks have a dominant eye different than the hand, which can make it difficult to aim
mircea_popescu: the people in life are people from movies,
asciilifeform: the kind that shoots
mircea_popescu: and ftr, the notion that pools "represent" hashrate is rank nonsense.
asciilifeform: mats: l0l re: the fella aiming with one eye
assbot: Junaid Hussain: British-born Isis hacker killed following US drone strike in Syria - Middle East - World - The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1hjpqFx )
kakobrekla: > but the kid-friendliness < shit, perhaps a mit student could actually successfully wire a lamp to it
mircea_popescu: williamdunne i dun think the dailymotion demo is expected to comfortably arithmetic in head.
asciilifeform: and yes, can whack with the stick.
asciilifeform: and could run just about whatever (to a point. internal resistance of the cells eventually catches up with you)
williamdunne: For a good laugh, a socialist using words they don't understand. Particular lols around bogeymanning options contracts; www.dailymotion.com/video/x2mxebi_the-super-rich-and-us-episode-2_tv
asciilifeform: interestingly, in the '90s there was a shortage, and plastic pieces of shit where you could stuff 3 'aa'-style cells were sold. as substitute.
asciilifeform: you could make a simple flashlight just from the battery, a lamp, and bit of electrician's tape.
asciilifeform: the battery was a thing in su since 1950s
mircea_popescu: then it moved to mean enema bag / pee implement under bed for sick people.
mircea_popescu: word (in romanian) used to mean "drinking vessel carried on the person', in 1800.
mircea_popescu: (and we called them "baterii patrate" = square batteries)
mircea_popescu: or extract the manganese oxide
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: the notable thing about those 'flat batteries' (what we called'em) was not where they were used, but the kid-friendliness (in the old sense of educative danger, rather than 'safety') - you could wrap wires around the terminals directly, even short'em across various objects to learn what happens
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: l0l! somehow i thought half-arsed ddos was 'the new normal' over there
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-08-2015#1253815 << pretty sure the reich had those, even.
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZQJeY2bVws << "the problem with your brother / is that he's always fucking your mother..."
mats: the ninjashogun ratings are hilarious
mircea_popescu: pretty sure i saw the thing attached to miner's helmet
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 22:58:18; mircea_popescu: <ag3nt_zer0> i said "no i'm not" << the one remarkable quality of six year olds is how quickly they can transform adults, even if specially trained, into other six year olds :D
ag3nt_zer0: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253717 << fair enough... though this reaction of mine is likely related to the fact that I was once fired from a school district while subbing because a student reported that I called her an "idiot" - wasn't true; I was speaking of the classroom behavior as a whole, but mattered not to the spineless principle nor to my "mentor" (I was sub for him) - this was with 10 days to
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i tell you honestly, if i actually had to run a retarded linux thing for each of these i'd strongly consider just giving up.
mircea_popescu: in fact they WERE once rich.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed they know how to be poor but happy. it works through being mentally retarded. they'd be equally happy if they were rich. they'd also be equally poor even if they were rich.
asciilifeform: for american folks who've never seen one, it can be found on the far left-hand side of this photo: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantern_battery#/media/File:Batteries_comparison_4,5_D_C_AA_AAA_AAAA_A23_9V_CR2032_LR44_matchstick-1.jpeg
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 21:16:31; mircea_popescu: tar was still used for insulation in 4.5V batteries when i was a kid. and the cells were paper wrapped.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253567 >>> guess what, turns out one ~can~ still get these! even in usa! but not in the shop. look on www for 'MN1203' - which is apparently what they are called now.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: appreciate, some monkey had to write them packetz down
kakobrekla: oddly enough i got last 3 lines before 'worx' in the same half a second
asciilifeform: *father's uncle
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253471 << i know of a fella who was in gulf war I. his father looked down on him for not having suffered being taken prisoner in vietnam; his father's father looked down on the latter for not having been abused by north koreans in korean war captivity; and his uncle - for not having been in japanese prison camp in ww2.
asciilifeform: (where all but a handful of'em are entirely opaque and nonprogrammable, and, direly, not the least bit inspectable..)
asciilifeform: the funniest thing is that, as described earlier, we already have this. in retarded form.
asciilifeform: in 'dataflow' concept, your computer is actually a barrel full of very small computers. most of them perhaps idling at any given time.
asciilifeform: who does not believe this, can pick a favourite vendor and read the data sheet (or his kernel's driver for the item)
asciilifeform: modern network chip is also implemented in quite the same way - it gets a chunk of memory to itself and drops incoming frames there, and waits for magic bit upon which it will crap out its buffer (also there) onto the wire
assbot: Logged on 27-08-2015 20:42:00; mircea_popescu: networking is chiefly multitasking because of the way it's implemented. but even in systems built to mt, there's a dedicated box added outside.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-08-2015#1253522 << must dig out this thread, because this is when i point out that the generalization of this principle - 'if it really has to happen all the time, it ought to have dedicated silicon' - is called 'dataflow computation'
asciilifeform: 'Now I seriously think of moving to Argentina. This nation already survived the horrific default of 2001, military dictatorship, deindustrialization and various other calamities, and came through it all with its dignity intact. They know how to be poor but happy (unlike Russians) and without neuroses (unlike Americans)I saw this with my own eyes.' (guest orlolz, http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2015/08/corn-madness-revisited.h
mircea_popescu: if only more people drank the damned fizzy pop thing.
gernika: They were probably shocked you weren
deedbot-: [Trilema] The function and the functioning of art. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-function-and-the-functioning-of-art/
mircea_popescu recalls the lulzy instance when "big deal" silicon valley firm wanted to talk but a) principals "didn't have the time" to come visit and b) they really didn't see "why i'd need" three first class tickets + hotel of "pick from this list" + the rest of the rider.
mircea_popescu: this because the usg is a great expert at making claims and putting forth pretense, but can't generally pay a cup of coffee if it comes to it.
mircea_popescu: it's quite obvious they won't pay the >10mn they owe on perfectly good claims to various users.
kakobrekla: I have a friend that made like 120 BTC because he could buy really cheap Bitcoins during a past flashcrash. From those 120, he only got 20 out. Bitfinex told him: sorry there was a trading engine problem. You never really bought 120 Bitcoins.
mircea_popescu: the all boys/all girls thing is beyond retarded anyway.
mircea_popescu: then move on.
mircea_popescu: <gernika> I wonder what is the sane mode of behavior for a child stuck in the public school system? << what the black kids do. fuck all the girls in class by the age they're 14, and whether they want to or not.
kakobrekla: i trade also there.