mircea_popescu: "bar of silver" and big somehow don't go together. what's silver, like a pizza an ounce ?
BingoBoingo: Neither do I
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> is the guy even here ? << My vague recollection is back in the day he wasn't an MPOE-PR fan. Usagi critic sure but though MPOE was just a differnet evil. Then again I am drunk early and memory flawed.
mircea_popescu: is the guy even here ?
mircea_popescu: For very good reasons, XT got #REKT, and all the pretentious undergraduate Marxist pomo jargon in the universe won't help it be anything but a colossal failure."
mircea_popescu: Oh right, the 1MB cap is exactly like slavery days. Got it. That's not offensive at all. And neither are your first world armchair claims of resistance against censorship. You and your exorbitantly privileged critique of theymos' moderation wouldn't last a day in China, where real censorship exists.
mircea_popescu: "Shackles of the BIP?"
mircea_popescu: To the proposal of "XT?" the community overwhelmingly responded "NACK" (cite: xtnodes.com). So regardless of your fact-free preference-tailored extreme minority opinion, the debate is over, and was won on inherency take-outs + presumption (not to mention solvency and the a priori 'FUCK HEARN AND THE CORE DEV HE RODE IN ON' deontological imperative).
cazalla: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-09-24/make-it-unaustralian-to-disrespect-women-turnbull-100-million-dv/6800330 <<< "All violence against women begins with disrespecting women," Mr Turnbull told reporters at the launch in Melbourne.
assbot: pizzaface18 comments on ELI5 21Inc. (part 2): Why do we panic when mining pools hit 51%, but support 21Inc.'s inevitable 51% IoT-based pool? (Since it's "Not about the mining", it's about microtransactions mined for free by 21Inc51%Pool^TM?) ... ( http://bit.ly/1LxD97X )
mod6: The National Razor had a better ring to it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> gasenwagen! << Tis the People's Wagen nao
mod6: no arguments there
mod6: well, arguably there are a variety of classes involved there. but you can make that happen with just the standard development kit, no special imports of packages are required.
mod6: so i had to kinda make my own magic there. was simple with an added flag + check.
mod6: including that there is no actual way to have an else case for a for loop in perl. lol.
mod6: so maybe someday, we'll have the gherkin with a python backend.
mod6: oh, and I was gonna add a bunch of cucumber tests to exercise the V code to ensure correctness. haven't even started that part yet.
mod6: I also am considering adding a "pull" or "sync" method. something to check your local vpatches against whats available at the foundation.
mod6: i perhaps wanna touch on some colorization of the graphviz graph nodes depending on the signatory, we'll see.
mod6: working on some cleanup. toposort seems to be doing what it should be, press is testing well so far (manual tests), currently writing the help info etc.
mod6: anyway, yeah, just be aware that it breaks things with the Makefile. http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000127.html
mod6: <+phf> shinohai: you probably have rm_gitignore.patch applied, which removes .gitignore files from src/obj/nogui and nukes the folders along the way? << i said to disregard this patch. reason is, it wipes out output dirs required by the bitcoin makefile.
BingoBoingo: Seriously though why would a train carrying coal move through the area around St Louis from WEST to East?
BingoBoingo: Not the weirdest thing though. The weirdest thing was seeing a train full of open top coal cars going through town from WEST to EAST
BingoBoingo: shinohai: I just kinda assume that nowadays. Apparently one of the local 5-0 lives in the duplex across from this house, but the only sign I get that he lives there is he stops there on breaks and says he lives there
BingoBoingo: Weird, I was smoking out front and saw a camaro with the license plate "For USD" or maybe "For USO"
shinohai: Nah I am experimenting with an arm build and deleted the folder myself, forgot to add them back like a genius.
phf: shinohai: you probably have rm_gitignore.patch applied, which removes .gitignore files from src/obj/nogui and nukes the folders along the way?
phf: is there reason why openssl docs snip by Marcel Hernandez is not part of canon?
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 20:26:20; wywialm: i'll be going, thanks pete_dushenski for a nice (even if boring to the audience) discussion
BingoBoingo: I was about to say earlier that one of the people on my shortlist of Satoshi candidates died today.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 22:33:35; pete_dushenski: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."
pete_dushenski: "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded."
pete_dushenski: “When you come to a fork in the road, take it.”
pete_dushenski: Yogi Berra, a Hall of Fame catcher for the New York Yankees whose mangled syntax made him one of the sports world's most beloved and frequently quoted figures, has died at the age of 90."
mircea_popescu: he's definitely more closely associated with the cdcr than with btc.
mircea_popescu: and no, "bitcoin" is not an acceptable answer. what's next, "hey, he was an inmate at pleasant valley and it didn't fail either" ?
mircea_popescu: this is actually a valid question to ask the muppets. "name a venture roger ver was associated with to any degree that didn't fail".
shinohai: I can't find *any* contribution he really makes to the space besides increasing popcorn share prices.
mircea_popescu: must suck to be reduced to trying to support yourself through whoring out your name, which you gotta keep telling yourself is somehow valuable. which it isn't, but desperate scammers don't have other options and who knows, really stupid noobs may not know any better.
BingoBoingo: In other news, trolling the news with basic gardening http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/Winfield-gardener-finds-strange-fruit-on-the-vine-328743471.html?device=phone&c=y
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: But is the wire DDoS proof
BingoBoingo: ascii_field: But the "network effect" in the sense of putting up more relay nodes with various people's trust preferences reduces DDoS risks
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: gotta understand why i even opened the issue to begin with. the dependence of therealbitcoin on pc hardware is an extreme danger.
ascii_field: i - elementarily - lack the time.
BingoBoingo: shinohai: Would likely require a deturded p2pool with a gossip sort of "pool with people I don't think are shitheads" Wot mechanism
BingoBoingo starting to wonder if pogo could ever run bitcoind and a form of p2pool at the same time
wywialm: i'll be going, thanks pete_dushenski for a nice (even if boring to the audience) discussion
mircea_popescu: "Mustaches and beards are permitted so long as they are kept clean and neat."
mircea_popescu: anyway, the heretical, unwelcome, incorrect, impudent, poisonous, insolent, frivolous, vulgar, coarse, brazen proposition that the poor are not lesser humans but more, in contrary of nature, obvious fact and the manifest will of any conceivable divinity.
wywialm: to francis' defense, he does a lot more of the pretense of that than actuality of it << that is another good point
mircea_popescu: to francis' defense, he does a lot more of the pretense of that than actuality of it,
mircea_popescu: anyway, "voice of the people" pope is a gross misunderstanding of the entire thing already.
wywialm: let me only make the provision that the application of ordinary tools, while depending on the power you refer to, is not infallible (just to clarify, in case it's not obvious)
mircea_popescu: this only works because the stick.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 19:40:11; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2015#1283826 << im kinda impressed with wywialm s rather well rounded understanding of catholic issues.
mircea_popescu: the ordinary tools are predicated on the tool. much like i will go "do i need to pick up the stick ?"
wywialm: he has more ordiary tools at his disposal, the infallibility is the ultimate. He may excommunicate, promulgate canon law, issue church penalties, issue magisterial statements, accept & decline ordinance of bishops
mircea_popescu: ascii_field that's the problem, the task is made significantly harder by previous idiots who didn't understand they were pulling the trigger.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i very much doubt there's that many people who are the intellectual equals of the task. the catholics decided that this must be so, but setting that doctrine aside, i find it dubious in practice.
ascii_field: when's the last time he pulled that trigger ?
mircea_popescu: name another ?
mircea_popescu: this is almost exactly what the master of a harem is, for that matter.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the pope has one job and one tool. his job is to provide non-breaking answers to any questions that can't otherwise be resolved or set aside. his tool is infallibility, which is to say that if he speaks ex cathedra he can't be wrong.
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:58:16; wywialm: the most precise definition of this is the vaticanum I constitution "pastor aeternus", and this is to guard the tradition of the Church
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-09-2015#1283826 << im kinda impressed with wywialm s rather well rounded understanding of catholic issues.
ascii_field: r loads a lot of DLLs from the executable directory first, so by copying the vpndownloader.exe file from Program Files to a temporary directory and dropping an appropriately named DLL you can get code execution as SYSTEM.'
ascii_field: 'The fix for this issue seemed to be modifying the file verification process to only allow a signed file which also has in its version information the original filename of vpndownloader.exe. This, along with the name change makes it clear you only want to execute the VPN Downloader application. However the code doesn’t limit the location of the executable file, so one exploitation vector is DLL planting. The downloade
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:25:48; wywialm: please ask the Pope
mircea_popescu: banal shit, but : there's two kinds of men. there's those who assume the usg is anon all powerful ; and those who've killed usg agents after being bored to tears by their inept begging.
mircea_popescu: "Fear assumes limitless possibilities: the thing you fear has infinite power, infinite resources, infinite resolve, unknown identity. Hate comes when you know them. Cyril Connolly did not say, "if it bleeds, we can kill it." But he should have."
mircea_popescu: o hey, check out the ballas insights.
mircea_popescu: srsly, the odds bitcoin breaks out next month are worse than 10:1 ?
mircea_popescu: https://bitbet.us/bet/1179/btc-to-top-700-before-november/ << gotta love how this thing insta-rebalances so the no side makes a shaving above 101%, ie, what bitbet takes.
ascii_field: sure they can
mircea_popescu: if we can have an arrangement where these peasants are opressed into the dirt by boot to the face, i'm willing to forego ipads in exchange.
mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> the notion that britney spears did damage to music might be compared to the idea that Garza did damage to bitcoin << still, i'd pay a little for it not being possible for britney to exist. and garza idem.
wywialm: in particular, when i do not approve of his certain actions, i assume them to be his private and not official, unless proven otherwise
wywialm: and with pope, the actions are primarily teaching, so i strive to keep this difference there
wywialm: if you meet, say, Warren Buffett, and he tells you 'sure, I'll give you some money', do you expect the cash to come from his personal funds or from BRK accounts? I'd expect from any officer to distinguish between his private actions and actions of his office
thestringpuller: mod6: seriously he is a music reverse engineer. He can listen to a song and write down the chords on a single listen.
pete_dushenski: while you ALSO say "'do what he means not what he says' << just the opposite"
pete_dushenski: either way, he is bound by what he says on record. not what he 'means' in the context of whatever arbitrary third parties may deem to be relevant teachings of his predecessors
pete_dushenski: pope either owns the keys of his predecessors, and therefore everything they've every signed, or he doesn't and then he can pick and choose what to sign with his own key
pete_dushenski: wywialm: well, catholic church teaches that he received some from his predecessors :) << doesn't add up with >> also, he is bound by what has been signed by them
thestringpuller: In modern times it seems to enable stupidity rather than squelch it.
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: my mistake; but intrafamilial socialism was beneficial in allowing the species to use "strength in nubmers" against say the wooly mammoth and sabertooth tiger.
wywialm: also, he is bound by what has been signed by them
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: your 'imo' as to the merits and value of intrafamilial socialism doesn't stand up against the biological and historical record.
wywialm: no, as the pope does not sign with only his personal key
pete_dushenski: which doesn't apply to the pope's case here.
wywialm: there is difference between what i say loosely, what i say clearsigned and what i sign and put on the deedbot
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: imo in both these cases, it's detrimental to the species since the weak are perserved for no other reason than "because I can and I love my son/daughter".
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: yes but the affect of "preventing" natural selection from occurring in the family unit is only temporary. even d00d protected in parents basement until his 40's may never have kids. (or perhaps the barrier to having kids is so low the termporary shield against selection of any sort gives unfit offspring the opportunity to spawn with other unfit offspring i.e. idiocracy)
wywialm: i wanted to point that the level of officiality (at least by catholic criteria) is ambiguous even with most publicised texts, such as his adhortation or encyclicals
pete_dushenski: there's no official v. unofficial distinction to be drawn. none whatsoever.
wywialm: i do not believe that pope has opinions, simply put. what pope says is what pope says *officially* and not to the journalists at the airport
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: families are very personal things, up for each to decide where to draw the lines of 'close enough to care about'
pete_dushenski: this rationalist dualist approach to division of the same mind holds no water.
thestringpuller: and even here wouldn't socialism in the family unit prevent natural selection only temporarily?
wywialm: pete_dushenski, i'm a little bit familiar with the galileo case, and i wouldn't put it as an example of revision of doctrine
pete_dushenski: yes. they are.
pete_dushenski: wywialm: nope. that just doesn't wash. this is the EXACT same shtick as 'opinions of ceo of megacorp are not the opinions of megacorp'
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: when you say from a family level (which is more decentralized in context to global societies socialism), do you mean immediate family? Dad Mom Borther Sister? Or do you mean a larger lineage: grandpa, grandma, aunt uncle cousins?
wywialm: but i think there is difference between saying that about Bergoglio as Bergoglio, and as Pope Francis
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: see, 'socialism', while we tend to use it in this manner here, doesn't ~have~ to refer to the societal level. it can also refer to, say, the family level, wherein it works quite well and, yes, prevents natural selection, which'd be the point.
phf: doesn't cathoic church has a deedbot of some sort? i'm more familiar with orthodox system, but presumably they come out every once in a while to updates for canon and the catechism, "we found the previous belief that 10 angels can fit on a head of a needle invalid, and on the account of recent scientific developments in nanotechnology, we are now convinced that the correct number is in fact 17" sort of thing
thestringpuller: By forcing society to be "equal" doesn't that benefit the stupid more than the fit?
thestringpuller: ^- pete_dushenski is there a difference at this point?
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:14:26; wywialm: then Pope Francis is not a socialist
assbot: Logged on 19-09-2015 03:02:00; mircea_popescu: nobody's getting "anally dilated" in prison dude. wake up and smell the coffee, erections are rare.
wywialm: if this sounds ambigous to me - and it does - i'd check what is the context of what the pope says, and this is e.g. his predecessors
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: can the machine have lazers ? for shooting non-tall slaves ? but then one tall one survives the blast and becomes the leader of the resistance ?
wywialm: i'm not particularly interested in Jorge Bergoglio's opinion and what he means, i'm rather scared that this is far away from i'd like to hear
thestringpuller: the protohumans eventually die off and what is left is a human race dedicated to maintaining the machine, in the sense of the zerg protecting the hivemind. Here the machine is the leader not a man.
thestringpuller: Well lets say the machine was created by protohumans (pre-machine humans), and then as a result became slaves to the machine
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 18:24:29; wywialm: is this another case of 'do what he means not what he says' << just the opposite
wywialm: well, catholicism has not begun in 2013 and not in 1965 as well and there is plenty of context to be applied
pete_dushenski: either pope's words are his words and stand as they are, or else they have an alternative and alterior 'meaning' and can be 'charitably interpreted'
pete_dushenski: wywialm: mkay then the issue at hand is from whence we derive this 'charitable interpretation' if not from his 'meaning' rather than his 'words'
thestringpuller: In this scenario I would say all men are a slave to the machine. Without the machine the species ends.
wywialm: however, this pope doesn't seem to be bothered by such things as 'official text'
wywialm: do what he says as interpreted as charitably as possible and in the light of the whole catholic teaching
thestringpuller: At that rate instead of limiting wealth, why not make the leader of society the person who happens to be the tallest, (if that is everyone is bred to be the same height but due to anomolies one or two individiuals are much taller than the rest)
pete_dushenski: wywialm: because that opens the door to an untold number of personal fantasies, as has been previously discussed in the logs
thestringpuller: Add some soma and other drugs in the mix and you have robotic people who don't care about wealth but "maintaining" the machine that spawned them. Honestly in this context a differentiation of male clones would benefit society in the same way the Irkin empire in Invader Zim came to power.
pete_dushenski: wywialm: is this another case of 'do what he means not what he says' ?
thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: "As such, I would find it absolutely essential, in order to take this question to its logical conclusion, to murder everyone in my constituency extant and to replace them with an army of sterile maleviii clones (perhaps with the help of Monsanto because I hear they’re pretty good at this sort of thing), whom will be raised by robot nannies, so as to control for the differences between parenting qualities and s
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: this'd be too hard to measure and even harder to enforce. honestly, a sterile male clone army is simpler.
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: so what's your way to limit wealth ?
pete_dushenski: !up thestringpuller
pete_dushenski: "It is not poverty, but prosperity, that needs explaining. Poverty is automatic, but prosperity requires many things – none of which is equally distributed around the world or even within a given society."
pete_dushenski: http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/the-left-has-its-pope/ << wywialm danielpbarron
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wywialm: pete_dushenski, there is no letter in Jesus's teaching to be followed
pete_dushenski: that the pope follows jesus' teachings to the letter would be like obama following jefferson's
pete_dushenski: jesus is an entity very much distinct from the church
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 16:13:59; pete_dushenski: socialism : the political viewpoint that holds as its highest virtue the coercive redistribution of resources
phf: i think there was a conversation at some point how diff/patch doesn't create empty directories and you have to resort to .keepme hacks, it was suggested that the correct solution is to patch makefile.unix instead, but i don't think that was done
shinohai: I'll try manually adding it. I'm in the habit of deleting object files when a build fails
wywialm: the most precise definition of this is the vaticanum I constitution "pastor aeternus", and this is to guard the tradition of the Church
pete_dushenski: wywialm: ok. i'll bite. what's the pope ~actual~ mandate ?
wywialm: pete_dushenski, he may try to speak as the voice of the 'people', but it is clear to me that it is way outside of his mandate as a pope
shinohai: trilema, is there any knowledge it doesn't contain
shinohai: I brought up the subject due to the statement he made that "I am not a socialist" yet in my limited knowledge of the subject, he has a lot of socialist ideas.
pete_dushenski: wywialm: in any event, that's a 'world's tallest midget' competition. the pope is still just a politician representing way too many people and interests to be effective
pete_dushenski: despite paul's opinion to the contrary, there's always a trilema reference somewhere
phf: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7sRArBiqnC4/SU7ROynutjI/AAAAAAAAAP8/sKqNE7ZyxHI/s1600/PBF244-Preach_Skate.jpg << 'man of the people'
ascii_field: 'In January 2009, USP Lewisburg began a mission change converting to a Special Management Unit (SMU) facility. Therefore, the information in this handbook is for the general population inmates only (Cadre Unit).' << this is worth explaining. SMU is a series of 'special prisons' where folks are held incommunicado. instituted under bush II
ascii_field: of his time. It is important that each inmate follow the rules of the institution in order that all
wywialm: well, the pope has vastly more power on His subjects than queen of denmark, if this is what you mean
pete_dushenski: he thirst for power and possessions knows no limits. In this system, which tends to devour everything which stands in the way of increased profits, whatever is fragile, like the environment, is defenseless before the interests of a deified market, which become the only rule." << every socialist hashtag wrapped up in a single paragraph. no points for guessing who wrote.
pete_dushenski: y is thus born, invisible and often virtual, which unilaterally and relentlessly imposes its own laws and rules. Debt and the accumulation of interest also make it difficult for countries to realize the potential of their own economies and keep citizens from enjoying their real purchasing power. To all this we can add widespread corruption and self-serving tax evasion, which have taken on worldwide dimensions. T
pete_dushenski: "56. While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. This imbalance is the result of ideologies which defend the absolute autonomy of the marketplace and financial speculation. Consequently, they reject the right of states, charged with vigilance for the common good, to exercise any form of control. A new tyrann
wywialm: ascii_field, incidentally, the Vat-II does not mandate majority of His actions, beginning but not ending with the Mass and ecumenic policy
ascii_field: 'Whem I'm released, the only restriction I have is travelling for the first few months. Other than that, Im allowed to use the internet. Im debating wether to buy the blackphone when I get out or just root an android ' << win
pete_dushenski: i'll leave that bit of homework to others, wywialm perhaps
ascii_field: iirc in usa somewhere there is a spare, schismatic pope who isn't
gribble: The operation succeeded.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell pope_francis are you too much of a 'man of the people' for latin now ?
ascii_field: l0l, that pope is in town today, neon signs warning of it on the 'beltway'
wywialm: the same goes with his recent encyclical
wywialm: please ask the Pope
wywialm: note that there is no latin text
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pete_dushenski: the private utterances, that is
wywialm: and the virtue is the preservation of the moral order of society, of which private property is an essential part
wywialm: the catholic teaching on the subject (afaik) is that there should be no redistribution, but that there are obligations to the poor that should be met in a non-centralistic manner
wywialm: then Pope Francis is not a socialist
pete_dushenski: socialism : the political viewpoint that holds as its highest virtue the coercive redistribution of resources
pete_dushenski: so expecting francis or any other clergyman of 'the people' to expound the virtues of capitalism or sanity is like expecting a potato to grow legs and start running marathons
wywialm: as i stated earlier, this depends on the definition of socialism
pete_dushenski: wywialm: the idea being that xtians are the original socialists, if not the jews before them.
pete_dushenski: pope poverty-spec isn't exactly breaking the mold here.
wywialm: i'm no expert on catholic teaching, but under charitable interpretation, Pope Francis is not outside catholic guidelines on care of the poor and principle of subsidiarity
wywialm: shinohai, depends on the definition of socialism
pete_dushenski: s up my sleeve to ensure that I can overpower anyone that comes through the tunnel."
pete_dushenski: unpleasant as I possibly can to anyone who dares to crawl through the tunnel. I will try to the best of my ability to make them regret their decision...I'll try my very best to sexually assault him or her. The tunnel is constructed in such a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out. And trust me, I have a lot of secret
pete_dushenski: "Why rape? Because as an artistic gesture, it's one of the most impactful I can think of... It dawned on me that if the work [we local artists] created had never existed, the world would be no different than if it had. None of it mattered to anyone outside of our small and insignificant circle of peers. I wanted something that would have more impact...I want to make it clear that I plan to make the experience as
pete_dushenski: http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/09/no-fixed-abode-rage-zipcar/ <-- excellent reference to --> http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/01/im_building_a_rape_tunnel.html
pete_dushenski: basically, the usg is one giant boobytrap
ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: can't really hold the streetwalker responsible for the condition of the streets now can you?
pete_dushenski: lobbes: in essence, the usg's continued insistence that, in every regard and in every field, the map is the territory, is used to trip up both citizens and corporations wherever and wherever it might be convenient
gribble: The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: lobbes: usg tentacle is the catholic church's only future existence
assbot: Logged on 23-09-2015 04:55:31; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2015#1278736 << turns out that i was off the mark here. to wit : "Emissions system and fuel economy testing is conducted while a vehicle is placed on a dynamometer—think of it as a two big rollers or a treadmill—rather than driving on the road. The vehicle has only its driving wheels rolling (the front ones, in the case of VW vehicles). But the rear tires
lobbes: yeah, didn't they alter their code to 'switch' when it detected testing or something similar?
pete_dushenski: funkenstein_: vw is under investigation for 'studying to the test' atm. i'm sure they'll be slapped with a big ol' fine by usg and then watch their sales fall by 10-20%
lobbes: I'd argue that 'music' is just fine, but it is the 'popular music industry' that suffers today. But, the masses have come to expect (tm) as they say
funkenstein_: the notion that britney spears did damage to music might be compared to the idea that Garza did damage to bitcoin
lobbes: you also gotta love how he feels qualified to endorse the 'climate change' scam. smells like a usg appendage to me
shinohai: Thanks jurov. Seems today he is with the democratic socialists.
jurov: shinohai: https://secure.marketwatch.com/story/thank-god-the-pope-is-an-anticapitalism-socialist-2013-12-11
shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3m1j8r/accessories_for_the_21_buttboard_now_available/ <<< priceless
mircea_popescu: anyway, im taking the local devs out for a breakfast hackathon. bbl.
mircea_popescu: but basically... it never occured to me that in point of fact bitbet's minimum acts as a tax. and a lot of other things in here never occured to me. i'm still reeling over the whole pile.
mircea_popescu: might be why the "2 btc minimum on sports bets" thing introduced last year nigh on killed sports. that may need to be taken off.
mircea_popescu: now it's just 0.01, which means we suck the meaning out of a cent. if minimum becomes 0.1, we suck the meaning out of ten cents. which may be too much,
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla the problem i see is this : forcing bets removes their signalling capacity. if i increase the minimum i just remove meaning from money.
kakobrekla: mircea_popescu yeah should prolly bump the initial bet to .1 instead
mircea_popescu: this is what they teach in math school now.
mircea_popescu: right because there's a fundamental difference between equations that come out positive and equations that come out negative.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: this'll sound strange, but shorts are 'pessimistic' and even 'cynical' in the eyes of the large-foreheaded
mircea_popescu: yeah, they're into this for the money, except they only want to make money by going long. shorts are bad mkay.
asciilifeform: jurov: well, if we count gtk, then - virtually everything
pete_dushenski: 'because gambling is uncouth and only done with vegas bookies using their scammy lines'
punkman: pete_dushenski: seems like there's at least 30 "accounts" with more than 300k eth https://etherchain.org/accounts
asciilifeform: 'turns out xfce4's terminal app depends on it. it's getting pretty tough to keep a gnome/kde free system. maybe i should give in to the evil' << l0l
pete_dushenski: so anyone crazy enough to have plunked down 150 btc on ethereum's pre-sale would take home ~1`100 btc + whatever chunk of the bitbet they so desired before closing it out
deedbot-: [Trilema] The strange case of the six hundred dollars and other stories. - http://trilema.com/2015/the-strange-case-of-the-six-hundred-dollars-and-other-stories/
asciilifeform: possibly the oldest