Show Idle (> d.) Chans
← | Results 280751 ... 281000 found in trilema for 'the' | →
assbot: BitBet is THE prediction market, which means it’s basically a megaphone. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1LaWhdt )
mircea_popescu: basically these are the remnants of the arawak
funkenstein_: "Linguistic studies have shown that roughly two thirds of the words in Papiamentu's present vocabulary are of Iberian origin, a quarter are of Dutch origin,and some of Native American origin and the rest come from other tongues."
mircea_popescu: who knew unemployment is the true fear of the libertard.
mircea_popescu: ahahaha o god the bitpay thing has done such an irony twist on buttcoin
mircea_popescu: "Ah the old "got what they deserved" and "should have known better" racket. That applies to dumbass butter cultists but not the normal people who need jobs and happen to land at this company. "
assbot: The Big Short Trailer (2015) ‐ Paramount Pictures - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1NQSXmC )
davout: that is, if anyone actually checks them
mircea_popescu: what you can add like comments in the file and shit ?
fluffypony: tell them 1992 called and it wants its easily-defeated crap back
assbot: IRS Agent Busted for Attempting to Extort $20,000 from Cannabis Shop Owner | The Free Thought Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyVuj1 )
mircea_popescu: did i fundamentally misunderstand what the promotional lie was supposed to be ?
mircea_popescu: but coming back to the issue, isn't "ethereum the webthreezeroeum technologee" supposed to have scripted contracts or something to be the future of future moneys ?
mircea_popescu: these freaks really think everything's worth money don't they.
mircea_popescu: "Wait. So someone purchased etherwallet.org (a premium domain name worth a not trivial amount of money most likely), put the work into creating an actual functional wallet with a pretty decent design, spent weeks promoting it, and for what? $1400? What is this? Kindergarten?"
punkman: "Running the code locally is better, but I think even the github code could be updated to leak keys to an external server. Wouldn't we need audited milestones with crc checks to be secure?"
assbot: ethereumwallet.org : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyUUBQ )
assbot: Marlene Dietrich: Where Have All The Flowers Gone? (Royal Variety Performance. 1963) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1YF3Cpr )
punkman: yeah just a sample of what the "media" is writing about him
mircea_popescu: punkman no buti mean, the widgets oir w/e on the page in question
assbot: Ghana's top undercover journalist masters disguise to expose corruption | World news | The Guardian ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyTOWE )
punkman: oh he's all over the social media in US/UK, even Obama mentioned him. at least as long as he stays in Ghana.
mircea_popescu: they got social media to "share ideas and stuff" just as long as those ideas are you know, easy, self flattering and funny.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 07:56:30; punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
mircea_popescu: "1965 hey look at this, they make houses out plastic now / 1985 bleh, my house is made out of plastic / 2005 i wish i could get a house not made of plastic"
mircea_popescu: if there weren't a pile of these "we"s running around, people^H^H^H^H reddit wouldn't be puzzling in the land of the lost "omaigawd bitcoinxt" etc.
mircea_popescu: "we" don't need random derp on youtubue to rehash what mp says a year-two later forgetting to mention the source. not because mp gives a shit, but because the sort of "we" that actually end up thinking their plastics are "made in the usa" generally get raped and can't figure out why.
mircea_popescu: to get to the point : it is not a valuable service to try and interpose oneself in front of actual power and pretend relationship. nor could it ever be. nor is it a sane or useful "strategy", nor does it ever work worth a shit.
assbot: The future of Bitcoin regulation on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1KyS2ol )
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 04:36:30; brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
mircea_popescu: dude the notion that someone has a currency named "ringgit"... give 'em a carrot already an' pat their ears back, too fucking cute.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 04:18:30; brg444: anybody here care for this dude Trace Mayer? never really bothered with him but thought he had couple of good insights in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXfEJD6DUk
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285441 << dudes that go "we" on youtube ARE the smell.
shinohai: BitPay has reduced the size of its staff in an effort to recoup losses due to inept management that lead to hax.
cazalla: shinohai, she gives the subtle troll away at 1:01
punkman: "Anas Aremeyaw Anas is known for, as he calls it, the “naming, shaming and jailing” of criminals all over Ghana – yet few people would be able to pick him out of a crowd."
cazalla: been that way for a while punkman, half the reason i never made money while i slept!
punkman: "People finding xss in sites and contacting them to see if they have bounties are the equiv of homeless people washing your dirty windshield"
cazalla: that is the second time today i've seen manuls
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:29:07; mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
punkman: you got a point there, but perhaps the movement always exists, a counterweight to "progress"
fluffypony: no I know, I'm just saying that the "I wish I could get a toaster without Linux" movement has already started :-P
fluffypony: punkman: the "retro" crap has already started, have you seen that Casio calculator that was released?
deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.00000000 BTC on 'Yes' - The ETH scam won't see 2016 - http://bitbet.us/bet/1199/the-eth-scam-wont-see-2016/#b31
gribble: The operation succeeded.
brg444: anyways, thought there was some interesting nuggets in there (switzerland exchange and the little bit about how Venezuelans using BTC to escape capital control)
brg444: (although it does look funny in the light now considering he's an investor in Bitpay)
brg444: cazalla, well he's wrong on a couple of things but I think it is a valuable service to remind everyone of why Bitcoin is there and how much money was wasted targeting broken business plans
brg444: about that, of course "there is nothing new in this world" but I thought this part was particularly lulzy : dude was having lunch with the power rangers (adam back, gmaxwell & gavin) and asked "why do we hire Bitcoin" to which Back & Maxwell replied "monetary sovereignty" and Gavin "because I feel warm and fuzzy when I make a payment".. smh
brg444: judging by the way he was going in on the lad likely the smell he refers to is Gavin :D
brg444: says there is supposedly a BTC exchange in Switzerland moving more BTC than all exchanges combined but staying on the low because of FATCA
assbot: Trace Mayer: "We need to remove the smell from bitcoin" - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1LBcoQ8 )
brg444: anybody here care for this dude Trace Mayer? never really bothered with him but thought he had couple of good insights in this interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXfEJD6DUk
BingoBoingo: !up brg444 You need the key to up yourself
BingoBoingo: Ah, just the orderbook looks like it moved
mircea_popescu: it doesn't show up if it doesn't trade within the mointh.
assbot: Good morning, may you serve the Lord, and may His holy dominion guide you through your dismal life.
gribble: (ticker [--bid|--ask|--last|--high|--low|--avg|--vol] [--currency XXX] [--market <market>|all]) -- Return pretty-printed ticker. Default market is Bitfinex. If one of the result options is given, returns only that numeric result (useful for nesting in calculations). If '--currency XXX' option is given, returns ticker for that three-letter currency code. It is up to you to make sure (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: a) shouldn't have got fat ; b) when the other sluts went to the twerking class, you should have been there already.
mircea_popescu: o god the butthurt.
mircea_popescu: gypsy guy, they have a thing for these.
asciilifeform: the kind that eats mice ?
mircea_popescu: "the lower price actually helps to more evenly distribute ETH."
asciilifeform: 'KeepKey is actually a fork of the Trezor project. We have maintained compatibility through development, and are compatible with Trezor v1.3.3.' << l0l
mircea_popescu: for the lulz : http://dpaste.com/3VDEQ9W << this is how a pageload looks on that site. three fucking pages worth of crap.
mircea_popescu: should be funny then, because https://archive.is/Xhemn
cazalla: asciilifeform, i'd say someone slipped it past the editor and it will later be removed
asciilifeform: for the love of god, montrezor!!!11
asciilifeform: 'To set up the KeepKey wallet, users need to install a Google Chrome extension on their browser.'
asciilifeform: in other nyooz from same fishwrap,
asciilifeform: also there is not yet the obligatory 'bitcoin died!!!111' nyooz piece! what witchcraft is this.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 02:33:13; mircea_popescu: check it out, they learned how to link !
mircea_popescu: in other news, the "strategic superiority rehash" thing is like the most read trilema article. i don't think this ever happened before for a day old item.
mircea_popescu: check it out, they learned how to link !
mircea_popescu: let them fucking explain where the words went, what do you care.
cazalla: mircea_popescu, pdf reads better as it is clear where the blackouts are (everywhere), perhaps i should've taken screencaps instead
assbot: Successfully added a rating of -1 for crescendo with note: Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
mircea_popescu: !rate crescendo -1 Aka Eric Martindale. Nice job trying to sell me/MPEx bitpay shares a week before information was to come out that'd render them worthless. Say hello to Daphna for me.
assbot: The problem of too much money on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1G5WmaJ )
mircea_popescu: With total accumulated investment reaching $32.7M, BitPay has now raised more venture funding than any other bitcoin startup. << this is drastically false.
mircea_popescu: im kinda sad nobody bought their shares, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: anyway. all the derps that wanna say things about how a non-bitcoin company's management reflects poorly on anything but the well known, amply documented and oft discussed ineptitude of the VC circus : feel free to suck a cock.
mircea_popescu: ahaha cazalla that qntra ascii thing is the lulz.
mircea_popescu: sciencehatesyouSorry for your loss 2 points 58 minutes ago This is sad, and it's just a shitpost from Mircea the Rapist's QNTRA << check it out, sciencehatesme.
mod6: appreciate the input here, im gonna ponder this for a bit.
mircea_popescu: Pierre_Rochard yes, there are some passible webdevs in argentina.
asciilifeform: one point by which you 'lift' the whole mess.
asciilifeform: mod6: same topology as the hook of a mesh bag
Pierre_Rochard: mircea_popescu: I know JS & a mobile wallet are anathema here, but they shipped Copay: https://github.com/bitpay/copay/graphs/contributors
mircea_popescu: they mostly like to write ~about~ things.
mod6: ok so. release vpatch would be creating a new vertex that has edges coming from the current leafs.
assbot: Logged on 21-09-2015 11:28:01; mircea_popescu: which is weird because where the fuck would she get moneyz.
mircea_popescu: they sit around and talk a splendid talk.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it is actually very common in usa software shops. indians produce mountain of horror, and then a handful of other people - clean it
mircea_popescu: what's it do for them ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform perhaps they fucked madonna as well.
mod6: right, i want the sync mech to work inside of the bounds of V.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: perhaps they had a stable of indians also
mircea_popescu: could have had a stable of indians doing the same job for 1.5% of the cost and 0.0x% of the liabilities.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you don't understand. it's not the place that's cheap
asciilifeform: then yes.
asciilifeform: but this way, a release is simply a vpatch that adds a 'this is part of such-and-such release' comment to a set of files in such a way that the desired leaves are brought into the release.
mod6: asciilifeform: hey, thanks for your input/thoughts there.
BingoBoingo: Pierre_Rochard: Interesting. I would have thought nice place downtown in the cool area would have cost more.
asciilifeform: there is precisely 1 kind of thing.
asciilifeform: it is the thing children like about 'lego'
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 after this, anyone who wants to build THAT release merely needs to 'grab' ~that~ patch and 'v' does the rest.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:27:12; mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285169 << the way i suggested doing it is to avoid having multiple classes of signed objects. manifest for a release would be merely another kind of patch - one that simply takes every leaf that is to form part of the release head, and add a comment to the top of the file, 'REL-xxx.' this auto-gloms the leaves into a single patch 'handle', think about it.
mircea_popescu: if gallippi wants to play the adult and "sign declarations", what's that mean ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: but why did it even need a physical office ?! the only possible explanation is mircea_popescu's...
asciilifeform: but other than this, unmodified
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> why would an outfit like bitpay even have expenses on top of bandwidth ? << Their office is literally around the block from a hooters knockoff that does pizza instead of wings. They spent on location
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285161 << i once suggested, iirc, 'rsync'. the beauty of 'v' is that it does not really matter ~how~ you marshall the bits around, given that every operation verifies every single bit of your tree.
mircea_popescu: or thereabouts.
mircea_popescu: just like the spam "mmwys" kids spend it all on trying to give other jerky teenagers the illusion that "mmwys".)
mircea_popescu: (hint : they spent it ALL on trying to give people just like you the illusion that mansions, and lizard hitler.
asciilifeform: i'm not a violinist either. but i understand how strings make sound...
asciilifeform: i still don't grasp ~what~ they spent it on
assbot: Logged on 12-01-2015 03:09:44; mircea_popescu: BitPay will soon be dead. They probably make $1000 per month revenue and burn around $500K.
asciilifeform: (the pill is to spawn p+1 threads, where p is cpu count, and parcel out verification jobs to the workers)
asciilifeform: there is absolutely no reason for it save the fact that i have not had personally the time to shoot it in the head
asciilifeform: the illusion of cpu-boundedness really comes from the idiot serial-verify of block tx-en
mircea_popescu: well the chinese surely do.
asciilifeform: 'thou shalt not add, neither shall thou take away' - that kind of thing.
asciilifeform: more importantly, authenticated.
asciilifeform: (or the backbone, if you like, molests. i don't care who. there is exactly one pill against this.)
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:17:01; mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285144 << the thing spoken of, i think, was the annoying tendency of every isp we sit down on to molest the packetz
mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/3m91ls/eyewitness_people_walking_out_of_bitpay_office_in/ <<< ahjahaha check it out, buttcoin crew is confronted with a dilemma between their own stated goals and their own mental capacities.
asciilifeform: the specificity-of-diddle 'theorem' more or less demands this approach.
asciilifeform: (the set of mathematical operations used in crypto is quite limited, well-defined, and does not require a turing-complete interpreter to fully encompass.)
mircea_popescu: i saw it in the logs. i dun know what to say of this as of yet.
assbot: Logged on 28-09-2013 09:10:42; mircea_popescu: my current curiosity in the field is why isn't cramer–shoup more widely usedf.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-09-2013#333713 << first mentioned here almost two years ago to the day
mircea_popescu: in any case : one of the things i'd like to see is non-familiar stuff.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:13:17; mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: “You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++’s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285135 << it is also, to borrow a naggumism, theoretically ~possible~ for a mountain of garbage to lack a single fly.
mircea_popescu: yeah but they were "oh, you know what, sigs for THIS really need to be dependably known"
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 00:28:18; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284796 << i suspek that's what they were trying to do with the sha1.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285102 << presently they are quite unlike! hash type for general-purpose message signing is ~selectable~ from the handful of traditional algos; hash for signature ~of keys~ is hardwired to sha1 !
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the blockchain is tough on the disk i/o, yes. as illustrated by the abysmal failure of pogo-with-mechanical-hdd
mircea_popescu: it does fucking lock the io somehow.
assbot: Logged on 25-09-2015 01:22:51; mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-09-2015#1285158 << this picture is not correct. 'locking' here refers to literal lock, the global big fat lock in bitcoind, the one that makes it only pseudo-multithreaded on account of just about every major routine hogging it
mod6: anyway sorry for the verbosity, thanks for listening. just wanted to see if I was on the right track before I get too far along.
mod6: we could have a signed list of mirrors in the same location as the manifest so that there is some redundancy
phf: mircea_popescu: yes, once i do the publishing
mod6: (incase there are patches added to the site webdirectory that are not included in the release manifest)
mod6: So I added subroutines to pull all patches, wots and seals from the foundation site, and/or audit what's already local by checking the local vpatch hashes against the manifest.
phf: mircea_popescu: i did not publish the instructions, i will update http://www.eulorum.org/OS_X
mircea_popescu: i think this is the correct approach. also i like it.
mod6: so for instance, I've made http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/TEST2.manifest, so far unsigned as its just for testing my code for a minute here..
mod6: one possibility to publish releases in the future now that we have V is to create a manifest of V patches and have the co-chairs sign the manifest, as well as the patches.
mod6: this way when one clicks on a node in the directed grap (from before), it takes you to the actual vpatch. anyway...
mod6: so, to start, I dropped the vpatches, wot pub keys, and seals (sigs of vpatches) into a webirectory here: http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/
mircea_popescu: machine can not do anything else during, if you're say making a large tarball at the same time odds are you'll cry.
mod6: oh speaking of eulora, is the new version out?
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:54:55; phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1285041 << we can already do this using iptables like god intended. it didn't practically help in the field if you recall.
mircea_popescu: you gotta meter what txn they pass you and score them.
mircea_popescu: but on the subject : the only thing that matters is the value transferred. any other approach is a waste of time.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1285009 << what abgout the idea of eulora on macos!11!!
mircea_popescu: check it out asciilifeform, "experts at Morgan Stanley" fixed the world!
mircea_popescu: Stroustrup said: “You can write C++ programs that are statically type safe and have no resource leaks. You can do that without loss of performance and without limiting C++’s expressive power. This supports the general thesis that garbage collection is neither necessary nor sufficient for quality software. Our core C++ guidelines makes such code simpler to write than older styles of C++ and the safety can be validat
BingoBoingo: Nah, "Trend Piece" aka not news that sneaks into the news
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 20:23:18; mike_c: mircea_popescu: wot user does a live search now if user isn't found, and/or provides a handy link for the JS-handicapped among us. http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/FooBar/
mircea_popescu: "Adopting Russian Orthodox Christian terminology for an important house of worship, the building is called the Moscow Cathedral Mosque. Its main golden dome and tall minaret reflected the style of many Orthodox churches, except for the Islamic crescents atop them."
BingoBoingo: "Don't get anesthesia in Peru, They mess with the functional parts"
BingoBoingo: It's nice that they put that warning up there
mircea_popescu: hands off the functional parts, yo! stick to tits and hips and whatnot
mircea_popescu: last fucking place you want the dudes to get involved, the cunt and the other set of labia.
mircea_popescu: in other news, the pin of the association of plastic surgeons from lima, peru depicts as a logo a stylisized cunt.
mircea_popescu: it can just be published as an item, you don't even need a "connection" between the two.
mircea_popescu: this way B can send any payments its customers want, and A will idem send whatever payments its customers want, and at the end of the day the whole balance is BTC settled at the agreed upon price and that's that.
mircea_popescu: also the correct way to handle this is through some sort of repo agreement. "A agrees to receive any sums from B throughout today, Sept 25th, and remit no later than by Sept 26th, at 8:00 gmt at address so and so a sum of btc equal to : the sum of btc received ; plus the sum of X currency received divided by Vx ; plus the sum of Y currency received divided by Vy ; plus [etc]."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284827 << he has a point. the notion of putting http in there but then going "The settlement part isn’t covered by the document, for the pretty simple reason that settlement is a business matter, not a technical challenge. It would also vastly complicate everything." is pretty wild.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:20:54; asciilifeform: (a panel which fits on a passenger car roof - let's even assume one on the hood, as well - would be lucky to pick up 200W at high noon on a cloudless day.)
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284802 << how fast do you expect to go in traffic ? 200W should be enough at the 1mph speed provided your bearings aren't made out of clay.
mircea_popescu: and yes it will have to be redone if nothing else then for that reason.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 14:13:39; asciilifeform: if the protocol had been designed by sane people, ALL SIGNATURES WOULD HAVE SAME FORMAT regardless of for what the signature is - for a file, or for the key itself, whatever
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284796 << i suspek that's what they were trying to do with the sha1.
mircea_popescu: you don't pay the credit card, you move the balance on a bigger credit card. duh.
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 13:50:30; hdbuck: raspi + 3D printed case! they'll sell at least 100 of them, so that's around $1.2 million a piece to pay back the VCs. i am waiting for the « toasters » tho.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284785 << pay BACK the VCs ? da fuck's wrong with you!
BingoBoingo: Yeah, Looks like it is just you and the smaller MPIF share betting on trump so far with everyone else offering odds
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] BitBet is THE prediction market, which means it’s basically a megaphone. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/09/24/bitbet-is-the-prediction-market-which-means-its-basically-a-megaphone/
brg444: about bitpay, can't say they don't doesn't deserve what's happening to them :/ they're part of the reasons why we have a trove of redditard today who think everyone and their grandmother should be using BTC for retail purchases...
phf: shinohai: what prompted the question?
phf: shinohai: what's the context?
gernika: It might not have been empty. That said, I didn't see the noise in the logs I would expect to see if it were connected to another node.
phf: i don't have intuition for complete eatblock time, but 3 weeks does sound like surprisingly long time, even with all the checks enabled
phf: gernika: you know if the addr db empty? if you did a connect with that node at any point, it'll have a populated address database and start connecting immediately on startup
ascii_field: the other important question is whether the node being synced was also accessing the net at the time
ascii_field: (as distinct from the eating)
ascii_field: how much time spent on the dumps ?
gernika: Yes it did. I did not dump all.dat files at once. I would dump one, eat through it (in about 24 hours), then dump the next.
ascii_field: but was the entire blockchain already present on disk to be eaten?
gernika: The node was not on the network, it was just eating from disk. It did not appear wedged, just processing one block after another.
ascii_field: let me guess, of the 3 weeks, most of the time was spent wedged ?
ascii_field: then burn the whole thing & start over
gernika: wedged - due to not having the patch yes
ascii_field: as in, didn't have the bdb locks fix patch applied ?
gernika: Right. So I made it to 368xxx and got stuck on the large block syncing from one of your nodes over the network. I then (probably) had a bad shutdown and corrupted the db. I then used eatblock to sync from what I had on disk up to that point.
ascii_field: the correct way to use eatblock is with dumpblock coming from an already synced LOCAL node.
ascii_field: i am asking ~specifically~ how the thing was put together
ascii_field: as in, where did the blocks fed to 'eatblock' come from ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu once alluded to a dirty ad-hoc implementation of this by chinese operators, where nodes had vpn links to one another
ascii_field: and for 'trusted' peers, in the above sense, to be ones where all comms in both directions are authenticated.
ascii_field: the correct recourse is crypto.
phf: well, the patch gives special status to ips that were explicitly provided. if you're being mitm'd, your only recourse is operator intervention, the goal of the patch was to ensure that your recourse does not automatically become "use random shmoe"
ascii_field: because the whole thing was written by the profoundly retarded
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 19:30:42; gernika: Friend is claiming he can do a full sync in 6-8 hours using the phoundation client (non-ssd), while it took my OpenBSD box 3 weeks using eatblock. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1284966 << headers-only sync is not sync. the phoundation client is not a bitcoin implementation and hasn't been for ages. on the other hand, a box that takes 3 weeks to sync FROM EATBLOCK ON DISK has something seriously wrong with it.
ascii_field: (all of the mitm against my nodes has taken the form of vaguely plausibly-deniable packet dropping and delay)
assbot: Logged on 24-09-2015 21:29:38; phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. bot
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=24-09-2015#1285009 << trust without public key authentication of ENTIRE transmission is a waste of time !!
phf: -connect based nodes in large avoid this problems because there's a mainloop that keeps adding same -connect supplied addresses over and over again, so even if elsewhere it's decided to drop the node, it'll be added and reconnected again on the next iteration. never the less a connect node can still be banned for misbehaving, which is something that his patch prevents from happening
phf: one way it might help with ascii's problem specifically though is that your client will patiently wait for ascii's node, even though there might be periods of time where it would otherwise be completely unresponsive.
assbot: Logged on 30-08-2015 15:45:26; asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu (corrected) dulap still behind; i had a thought that the very possibility of this problem is an atrocious idiocy - why should an infrastructural node (so0opernoude!!!) rely on the whims of wild animals to learn latest blocks? we need the 'nobles'-never-disconnect table.
phf: appreciate any comments on the subject.
phf: to misbehave, idle however long and send data as large as they want. what's not implemented: prioritizing trusted nodes over others during node selection: you might still lose connection by natural means, in which case -addnode nodes will be dropped, and a standard node selection mechanism is used. the patch so far is here http://paste.lisp.org/display/155710. i'm thinking that ultimate vs. trusted distinction might be unnecessary. i would
phf: ascii_field, mircea_popescu, et al: i've been experimenting with idea of trusted nodes in bitcoind. so far: address has levels of trust, ultimate, trusted and untrusted. adding an address with -connect gives it ultimate trust, with -addnode makes it trusted, otherwise (reported by other nodes, random connections, etc.) are untrusted. nodes have the same level of trust as their addresses. trusted nodes (i.e. both t. and ultimate) are allowed
Pierre_Rochard: from the public info I read, they’ll continue with a skeleton crew, could make a turnaround if there’s a bubble soon :/
BingoBoingo: BitPay is/was the non-retarded retail alternative to CoinBase
BingoBoingo: Because like CoinDesk is going to have a friend in Atlanta walk by the BitPay offices to take in the rumoured slaughte
BingoBoingo: Wanted to commit the report to the textual record as soon as possible
assbot: Almost 10,000 Syrians have registered to live in a country that might not exist - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1KxKnH3 )
mike_c: mircea_popescu: wot user does a live search now if user isn't found, and/or provides a handy link for the JS-handicapped among us. http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/user/FooBar/
mike_c: would rather not do it server-side to reduce dependencies
mike_c: I was going to add an ajax search of the user page to the 'not found' btcalpha wot nick search page
trinque: another lovely day in US-Russian relations
← | →
Random(trilema) | Download hourly DB snapshot | Get Source Code