ascii_field: mircea_popescu: tell it to the americans !
diana_coman: could be, tbh I held the same belief right up until I experienced "the wonder of birth"
mircea_popescu: but the original point was that no, survival after c section was shockingly good even in roman times.
mircea_popescu: "Also mircea_popescu has disappear off the face of the earth. Its time for him to pay up. He can not be found on twitter or OTC or bitcointalk. So long shit talkers."
mircea_popescu: anyway, iirc plenty of hospitals won't even consider it, because the cost/effort of emergency c section is too high
diana_coman: it didn't use to be the practice/allowed so kind of hard to tell (as far as I know in Romania for instance you'd still be directly set up for a c-section) so kind of biased numbers as to what the body can/cannot
diana_coman: there is vbac too if that's what you mean (with 1/200 chance of uterus rupture and potential death, yes - then again, just check out in how many ways one can die giving -or should I say not-giving- birth the first time anyway)
diana_coman: maybe I was lucky or something but honestly all I needed was rest+food (both in huge amounts admittedly) and otherwise....
diana_coman: I was out walking after a solid sleep (which was the one and only thing I needed like crazy)
pete_dushenski: yes, survival is there. no doubt about it.
pete_dushenski: the victims can't lift a teacup for several weeks, limited to one flight of stairs per day, etc.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski it doesn't heal as in, restore function. but it does heal in the sense, you won'tfucking die from it.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289816 << kinda the reason the c-section is literally the oldest medical procedure known to man
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 13:55:17; pete_dushenski: Julia Cordray and Nicole McCullough, ftr, you both suck. that you've raised $350k is a testament to the problem of too much money, not the worth of your unoriginal ideas. don't quit your dayjobs and/or give your rich husband's feet a big smooch when you get home.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289804 <<< ahahawhat bs, they raised 350k ? this is not enough to cover the cost of raising.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 13:51:19; pete_dushenski: "Can I start someone else's profile? Yes. You will need their cell phone number to start their profile and they will receive a text that you were the person to start their profile and that they should check out what you said about them on our app." << surely, this can't be gamed! it's 100% certified fresh dummyproof!
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289802 << it's the newest and bestests in coverup for spam.
pete_dushenski: me thinks mr. coffee slut is being lyrical. as fucking if anyone is narrating their future plans WHILST SQUIRTING
mircea_popescu: (seriously, i am. i fucked much fewer men than most of the women i ever hang out with.)
mircea_popescu: i've yet to meet someone who narrates their life as they climax, but then again im relatively inexperienced.
pete_dushenski: instead of just walking out the door at some point, mayhaps or mayhaps not to return
mircea_popescu: or alternatively, like it wouldn't make for a great fucking story, "and then i said hey if i weren't leaving for this uberimportant reason i'd totally marry you while coming all over him, and then he said the hell with reason, marry me, and that's when i said yes"
pete_dushenski: "dear, i'm off to work in the mines, see you this evening"
pete_dushenski: "honey, brb, going to grab the mail"
pete_dushenski: what, like ppl don't narrate their lives ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu sounds to me like this girl was actually just leaving town, but hey, had we been there, we'd know for sure.
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mircea_popescu: ;;google "listen to old gloria. the greater sacrifices"
diana_coman: until 16 year old me figured out that ...they only talk, so bullshit
mircea_popescu: really, behavioural heuristics are probably the most scandalously poor "superpower" of the man in the street.
diana_coman: uhm, 12-14-16 year old me certainly recoiled/retracted from sudden cries/shouts etc from construction workers in the centre of the town
mircea_popescu: diana_coman generally the coy behaviour makes girls retract from sudden spikes of attention.
diana_coman: "oh good, will come back more often then, until you get over it"
mircea_popescu: what did they think money was far ?
pete_dushenski: maybe that'll be the day i can afford eizo monitors like that rich man stan
assbot: Grisha Mamurin has provoked a storm of protest by paying girls to flash their boobs and kiss him ... ( http://bit.ly/1FIcQuX )
assbot: Girl, 15, forced to stand by side of the road with humiliating sign | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1FIcvsg )
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237221/Girl-15-forced-stand-road-humiliating-sign.html
pete_dushenski: actually had the most incredible kimchi-spiced sea bass last night
pete_dushenski can hear the sound of mp's keyboard breaking in two over his knee
davout: pete_dushenski: "As to my “sub-child level of maturity,” given that I just so happen to have an enfant terrible chez moi, I can attest first-hand to my vastly superior level of maturity. Example #1 : I don’t cry when I’m hungry, I go to the fridge. Example #2 : I don’t shit my own pants, I use the bathroom. And if you were just being hyperbolic, you suck at it." <<< top kek
assbot: A Guide To Buying 5000 Ether/Bitcoin, 2.5x More Than Ethereum’s Genesis Sale Offers | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1KTMvqD )
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/07/23/a-guide-to-buying-5000-ether-bitcoin-2-5x-more-than-ethereums-genesis-sale/#comment-32029 << ethtards are relentless, i tell ya. never underestimate retard strength, kids.
diana_coman: I suspect it kind of gave me some weird hallucinations but it could have been due to the more-than-extreme-falling-asleep-while-walking exhaustion instead, hard to tell
diana_coman: they made such a fuss and then they gave me a whole bunch in hospital anyway (threw most of them away in the end)
diana_coman: cazalla> is this true? "Codeine is not available over the counter in the US, most of Europe, Hong Kong, India and Japan, but about 1.3 million packets are sold at pharmacies around Australia every month." <- it's true in the UK at least (where they are nuts anyway)
pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKegRnTimFs << views from 'when the world worked'. in usa, 1930s were the last decade of any sort of wealth.
pete_dushenski: "As of Monday, the company’s shares put its value at $7.6 million" << gtfo. seriously.
pete_dushenski: Julia Cordray and Nicole McCullough, ftr, you both suck. that you've raised $350k is a testament to the problem of too much money, not the worth of your unoriginal ideas. don't quit your dayjobs and/or give your rich husband's feet a big smooch when you get home.
pete_dushenski: "Can I start someone else's profile? Yes. You will need their cell phone number to start their profile and they will receive a text that you were the person to start their profile and that they should check out what you said about them on our app." << surely, this can't be gamed! it's 100% certified fresh dummyproof!
pete_dushenski: your exes, your co-workers, the old guy who lives next door. You can’t opt out — once someone puts your name in the Peeple system, it’s there unless you violate the site’s terms of service. And you can’t delete bad or biased reviews — that would defeat the whole purpose."
pete_dushenski: "You can already rate restaurants, hotels, movies, college classes, government agencies and bowel movements online. So the most surprising thing about Peeple — basically Yelp, but for humans — may be the fact that no one has yet had the gall to launch something like it. When the app does launch, probably in late November, you will be able to assign reviews and one- to five-star ratings to everyone you know:
pete_dushenski: "If I threw in a little calibrated genuine romantic emotion, combined with sexual dominance, it was relatively easy to keep them hooked. This is why 50 Shades of Grey is so popular – Christian Grey isn’t an asshole. He almost cares too much while still being sexually dominant. Women want to be swept up in an emotional whirlwind, and the more I tried to keep my “Alpha cool” the more they responded with
pete_dushenski: "33. C. – Tinder – 8/8/8 – Boyfriend. Really sexy, feminine, generous mid-twenties brunette. MASSIVE tits. I fucked her ass for the first time, and she promptly got weird on me and withheld sex the next time we saw each other. I let it ride and found out later she’d been seeing her ex again. She got weird because I came in her ass while things were getting serious with him."
pete_dushenski: not that i disagree that a girl's early 20s are prime mating time, but this should be self-evident, not 'down the rabbit hole' stuff
pete_dushenski: red-pill awareness to know that her early twenties is the time to lock a man down."
pete_dushenski: "24. G. – Tinder – 8/8/9 – Logistics. Early twenties blonde model and a fucking rockstar. The only girl I’ve fucked who was hot enough, feminine enough, and interesting enough to be a long term option. One day while she was riding me and squirting all over me she said “If I was staying here I’d totally fucking date you.” I felt the same but she moved to the Pacific Northwest a week later. She has the
pete_dushenski: "14. M. – Cold Approach – 6/6/5 – Bail. Boring mid-twenties girl I approached at a boring bar. The first and second dates were boring, her friends were boring, and the sex was boring. I have no idea what she’s doing now, but it’s probably boring."
pete_dushenski: "this guy slept with fifty women. Fifty. He’s not a movie star or a well-known musician or even, ahem, a great writer. He owns a coffee shop in Asheville, NC. He frequently “dominated” or “humiliated” the women he met, and he claims to have introduced a few of them to anal sex, but every single experience he had with them was entirely and thoroughly consensual."
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assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 08:39:22; mircea_popescu: here's an idea for a tumblr : take a chick to random toliets, fuck her, polaroid a scene, leave it affixed to the wall with some email on it, publish the emails you get.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 08:19:34; mircea_popescu: anyway. or to get back to jamaica, there is zombie. but kindaoverused.
asciilifeform: the 'planet' thing, as with most american neologisms, leaves little to the imagination. it refers not to obesity even but to a qualitative jump in the progression of the disease where the afflicted begins to lose 'human form' - what a child might draw when asked to 'draw person' - and converge to... a sphere. hence 'planet.'
asciilifeform: just about nobody, outside of p.t. barnum's circus, was 'hamplanet' in 1880. not rich people, either.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 07:57:19; mircea_popescu: the OTHER however, and in the us population without exception the more important, is toxin load. the body has two approaches to dealing with toxins : excretion and fat burial.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289392 << this is why 'fastfood-fat' is, to the trained eye, a thing; and is what i thought the term 'hamplanet' referred to, customarily.
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pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/01/in-which-volkswagen-takes-aim-at-the-insanity-of-statal-overbearing/#comment-32083
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289384 << chin-ups, push-ups, sit-ups, walk-ups. the way to go, really.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289736 << there existed at least one 'revolver' where the drum revolved to snarf up wankel-shaped cartridges from a hilt magazine, whereby this cartridge would be its own chamber! and fell out when spent and drum rotated!
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mircea_popescu: before that, the meanwhile defunct s.wol also spent a decent chunk, about in the same range.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 07:31:04; midnightmagic: The contract they were trying to sue us under was held invalid by the British Columbia Court of Appeals because they didn't have the right to lease the premises of an unabandoned railway depot for other purposes.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 07:28:24; mircea_popescu: "your honor, i direct your attention to page 792,paragraph H of tome 9 of the conspiracy to overthrow the world over! as you can clearly see, it says right there i disagree with things and stuff."
mircea_popescu: they;ll pay if the roi is there. your job is in making sure the roi is there, which is not trivial, and will probably take significant effort early on.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski eulora certainly is, xtokica is, qntra and bitbet might be, the beeline islong.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 07:11:11; midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: The Fils de Liberte were likely guilty of it. I don't know if they were actually charged. Yes, a pile of people have been charged, and convicted, of sedition in Canada. Interesting semi-related factoid. de Gaulle when he gave his famous (in Canada) speech "vive le Quebec! vive le Quebec LIBRE!" and the camera cuts to uproariously jubilant crowd, that's an edit by a separatiste
mircea_popescu: most programmers of the web-and-vc ilk today are not in fact solvers, but chasers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so in that sense, programming is not a unified field. there are two disjunct efforts.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i mean, hanbot did her time in the trenches, which mpex presumably backed, but who of the 3-4 actual businesses here is going to pay for yours truly to shmooze at conpherenes ? i'm not totally sure i see it.
asciilifeform: this is the Right Thing for ~very few~ items. and yes, a game is a textbook example of where it is ~not~.
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 20:12:15; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you get clients, work on their projects. like anyone else.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288939 << well, if 'b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency', are you proposing that therealbitcoin, bitbet, mpex, s.nsa, qntra, paymium, etc. are looking to hire pr talent ?
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 10:20:06; mircea_popescu: more importantly : if kelvin versioning is not useful for diana's bot, on what exactly does the expectation that kelvin versioning is useful at all rest ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289635 << if rifle is worthles as a fishing rod, where does the expectation that it is useful in the hunt rest.
pete_dushenski: the things i didn't know i know !
davout: or maybe there's a subtle, or not so subtle, difference between revolver and pistolet that i'm unaware of
pete_dushenski: speaking of pr, here i was thinking idkwtf it is, then lo and behold, my digital memory came through in the clutch : http://www.contravex.com/2015/01/26/even-north-korea-knows-that-public-relations-isnt-about-being-nice-anymore/
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 01:02:00; VariaVarietatis: ;;later tell pete_dushenski I'd be willing to help with the PR.
pete_dushenski: "mama said he's bona fide!" (o brother where art thou)
mircea_popescu: ahahaha GET THE FUCK OFF MY LAWN
pete_dushenski: if you're going to diddle 'la fin' you may as well go all the way, get your director, and start shootin' !
mircea_popescu: "i will now insert this flexible qtip in your nose. would you like me to hit you in the head with this mallet first ? for safety?"
assbot: Logged on 22-10-2014 07:45:49; mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: it's completely wild to see how much the bitcoin network hashrate fluctuates. << you understand those aren't directly measured, but more like calculated after the fact ? it's normal variance, you're trying to guess how many times a coin is tossed by how many heads you see. well...
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 02:37:09; brg444: still amazes me someone out there can turn on/off nearly 100,000,000 GH/S with the flick of a wrist
davout: to me "nasal endoscopy" just sounds like "finger in the nose, just longer"
mircea_popescu: but i mean... if you need anesthesia for nasal endoscopy then women definitely need like a spinal tap for the case someone inserts a finger in the cunt
mircea_popescu: vicious circle to the moon.
mircea_popescu: right. and on the other hand, "people seem to take them, i guess i gotta offer them."
davout: mircea_popescu: the reasoning is probably something along the lines of: "guy offers painkillers, stuff's prolly painful"
mircea_popescu had a nasal endoscopy recently, doc wanted to give me lidocaine for it, i didn't want it, he was like, "i don't understand why anyone would want to be unable to speak/chew and drool all over themselves for three hours to avoid the minimal disconfort of a half minute procedure, but you're the first one to turn it down in so long i forget"
davout: jurov: they sell codeine in combination with paracetamol here, for headaches mostly
jurov: took them home, everyone was wtf
jurov: deedbot-: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20151001/attachment_49fce8b161347553452b2968861026ecbc2a56a0.txt
deedbot-: [Trilema] Whoever said resource allocation is a solved problem deserves a kick in the nads. - http://trilema.com/2015/whoever-said-resource-allocation-is-a-solved-problem-deserves-a-kick-in-the-nads/
mircea_popescu: cazalla yeah the libertards went nuts with codeine
cazalla: from http://www.theage.com.au/national/all-codeinecontaining-medications-could-be-prescriptiononly-from-next-year-20151001-gjzdex.html
cazalla: is this true? "Codeine is not available over the counter in the US, most of Europe, Hong Kong, India and Japan, but about 1.3 million packets are sold at pharmacies around Australia every month."
mircea_popescu: so in this sense : open source doesnarrow the space of possibilities. this however is only beneficial for some of the things, those that have a perfect form to be found.)
mircea_popescu: (and the disruption eulora brings to the table doesn't end here, incidentally. the above requirements as to change are why while i'm in generall all for open source, i will never share the fucking server code. it's not just that easy copying of the "exam rule book" so to speak makes the exam unworthy of taking, and therefore the game more boring. it's more importantly that i have to conserve for myself the space of mov
mircea_popescu: more importantly : if kelvin versioning is not useful for diana's bot, on what exactly does the expectation that kelvin versioning is useful at all rest ?
mircea_popescu: there isn't a definitive fixed form eulora that is the answer to a putative "eulora problem". there's going to permanently be changes to it, known in the parlance as "expansions".
mircea_popescu: so 1) eulora is a computer game. this makes it software, yes, but because it is not actually trying to solve a problem/set of problems but to CREATE a set of problems (which is the very nature of games, after all - the people running 100m aren't in a hurry and the people doing relay aren't actually you know, passing important messages in that stick or w/e, it's just makework for the enjoyment of the process) it has to
mircea_popescu: so let me ask, of asciilifeform or whosoever wishes to approach the problem, the following theoretical question.
davout: you can use "fin" as masculine but then it's something else
mircea_popescu: went through the "missed runway firing 90% of staff" start-up thing a few weeks ago.
mircea_popescu: no, they just ran out of people.
Naphex: whatever the hell that means
Naphex: jgarzik join shitpay advisory board with gavin; maybe they can advise them not to send 5000 BTC to random people on the internets
davout: la fin as in "the end" is feminine
mircea_popescu: Le Fin de Siècle, butotherwise, "la fin" ?!
gribble: The operation succeeded.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: if latest victory is greatest victory then the current pacycheck is correctly priviledged at the expense of all previous ones. win.
mircea_popescu: totally. let's play war in the sense of the jews trading "artwork", we keep defeating each other this way both sides win.
mircea_popescu: "oh, the great military victory of having (briefly) retaken a position we lost to the enemy last week, which was like their greatest victory ever."
assbot: Logged on 09-09-2015 18:57:08; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-09-2015#1267818 << for the record, a "modern military base" IS a horrible castle.
BingoBoingo: <cazalla> like when ya let ya nuts sag outta ya jeans in a photo << Waiting (2005) has names for all the possibilities in the penis showing game
cazalla: nah not photo bomb, but i know there is a word
mircea_popescu: no i mean, when you put your penis (or alt-penis as the case may be) in someone else's pic
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/0f0f6485b8784f85e3d3155bb09b861c/tumblr_numzdfjojq1ty4k89o1_1280.jpg << what's the word for this ?
cazalla: then for whatever reasons, you cheeks flush
cazalla: ya gotta soak ya toast in butter and then cake on an inch thick of vegemite
mircea_popescu: not crazy about the oz thing tho
cazalla: well, it is salty so prob tastes the same too
cazalla: mircea_popescu, ya know i was gonna say i'd melt that fucking thing down but.. wikipedia "The figure has been repeatedly stolen:"
mircea_popescu: im tryin' to get the good word over to the aussies, they eat nothing but sheila and tarantula pate over there.
mircea_popescu: current republican party (democrat at the time) "freed" slaves, such as it were.
mircea_popescu: if this keeps up ima have to fork the pisschain.
cazalla: quite content with the standard jizz on tits method
cazalla: i can't say i've ever had the idea
cazalla: "..who find pleasure in eating food soaked in urine of others, including bread voluntarily abandoned in public urinals.." that is fucking filthy
mircea_popescu: at it's core, it is the practice of leaving some bread in an urinal to be retrieved later.
mircea_popescu: cazalla http://24heuresactu.com/2012/01/08/les-soupeurs-sexe-et-urine-une-tradition-qui-se-perd/ there.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> obesity is not to be sociallly tolerated, and sure as fuck not supported on tax money what the everloving fuck. << Not on tax money. Private business is accomodating the Obesity.
BingoBoingo: the system leading to a potential claim for damages under The Privacy Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552a(e)(4)(I).[20]
BingoBoingo: Fron wikipedo: The United States Marshals Service is the agency component that first holds all federal prisoners. It uses the Prisoner Population Management System /Prisoner Tracking System. The only types of records that are disclosed as being in the system are those of "federal prisoners who are in custody pending criminal proceedings." The records of "alleged civil contempors" are not listed in the Federal Register as being in
mircea_popescu: obesity is not to be sociallly tolerated, and sure as fuck not supported on tax money what the everloving fuck.
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 02:13:12; BingoBoingo: In other news, state of the art in American Fast Food innovation "priority" seating http://imageham.com/images/2015/09/30/imageab1b4.jpg
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289162 <<< dude what the fuck is that stupid shit.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Best part in my digging is that people held in 'civil" or normal contempt of court don't have to be listed as inmates, and aren't on the federal level
BingoBoingo: A true hero for the people, record holder for contempt of court incarceration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Beatty_Chadwick
mircea_popescu: as proven by the fact that when i take a nude chick out, whether i fuck her or not, other dudes (the few who don't try to ignore) MIGHT try to photograph but sure as well won't try to fuck her too.
mircea_popescu: wait... you won't... piss ?! as the anonymous guy said to the great tom green, "you should look into that. that could turn into a debilitating condition."
mircea_popescu: here's an idea for a tumblr : take a chick to random toliets, fuck her, polaroid a scene, leave it affixed to the wall with some email on it, publish the emails you get.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Awfully common in the angloshpere
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cazalla: probably would've driven the 10 hours at 18, but at 33, she is gonna have to drive here or i cbf
punkman: there ya go cazalla
punkman: "Really need to suck some dick right now. All I’ve thought about for days is cock. My body literally shakes when I think about it. Is this how addicts feel when they’re in withdrawal?"
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/b11c800817436cddf1028055a07d3635/tumblr_nvgx9xPeRA1rbsxuao1_1280.jpg << watch the guy die next week acciedentally and her sorry ass be nicole smith'd
assbot: Packing the essentials - the quiet terror of being alive | whoreeecrux ... ( http://bit.ly/1VrL7k2 )
mircea_popescu: the jeans and dress heels combo. this is what it's all about.
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/eaa45c186f01e7a30c279a9234dff8a7/tumblr_nrskr09N2u1tsn8x4o2_500.gif
BingoBoingo: Agent J has recently been intensifying his "move along" "Mike was right but an asshole" "let's do the change differently" deal
assbot: A boy did nice things to my body, came all over my... - the quiet terror of being alive | whoreeecrux ... ( http://bit.ly/1VrKYgm )
BingoBoingo: Last name starts with the first letter in Gavin
assbot: Logged on 01-10-2015 01:34:28; btcdrak: looks like people are beginning to see past the veil...
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-10-2015#1289125 << more like a "let's save gavin by burning the mike asset to all hell" ploy. it's... well it's not gonna work, but hey, they gotta try because they gotta paycheck
mircea_popescu: for all the public exercises in verbal nonracism, one needs but examine how the asian man looks in english, since the coolie and laundry man of 1815 san francisco, to the waspy, evil conniving gook of the war to today's strange.
mircea_popescu: in the public imagination, it's this derp whom you'd be unkind to pick a fight with
BingoBoingo: Worse, the gay man of 1950 could still rot
cazalla: BingoBoingo, already in the list of films for him to watch
BingoBoingo: Better to start him with Rambo's First Blood Part one, so he knows the consquences of being violent for the USG first
cazalla: thought i'd show my son but still abit too young at 20 months to be jumping aroind karating his mother
BingoBoingo: * cazalla watching enter the dragon.. wondering how asians went from so cool that black people wanted to be bruce lee to being total betas << Asians were always super beta, bruce lee was the rare exception
cazalla watching enter the dragon.. wondering how asians went from so cool that black people wanted to be bruce lee to being total betas
mircea_popescu: anyway. or to get back to jamaica, there is zombie. but kindaoverused.
BingoBoingo: THe body can carry a hefty amount of surplus around without ill effect, but the brain is also largely supported by kinds of fatty tissue and responds poorly to the wrong kind of fat incursing.
BingoBoingo: There's always biodiesel
mircea_popescu: actually the problem of the morbidly obese is exactly like the problem of the society that spawned them. balooning debt, which is eagerly soaked up by unproductive/rent seeking parts ; however any cuts of income hit the productive parts first.
BingoBoingo: It's why the surgeries work so long as the patient give the nervous system time to sync to the corrected stomach size.
BingoBoingo: That and the normal stomach has so many folds that it can stretch and grow to accomodate several basketballs of volume in the galaxy sized and in unfortunate bezoar cases
BingoBoingo: It's the opposite of how in cancer the problem is the cancer is in every way healthier than the surrounding tissue
mircea_popescu: well. same thing with fat : after bmi 40ish or so it is rather impossible for the body to recover on its own.
mircea_popescu: because the protein construction machines are made of proteins, and those proteins have been digested.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo you familiar with the fact that if one is starved for long enough, eventually one appears alive and can move but WILL die of starvation and can't eat ?
mircea_popescu: at which point other fad "helps" and so on.
mircea_popescu: "oh, our new fad diet is to only eat old car seats!!1 IT WORKS!!1". yeah, in the 1.7% of the population whose sticking point at that time happened to be a lack of X, which X is abundant in used car seats, it "helps", until the metabolism gets wedged into something else.
BingoBoingo: Well, then past BMI 45 when you get into super morbid obesity, or death fat territory you get skeletal distortion
mircea_popescu: how many "lifechanging diets" actually work ? and how many actually go "vitamins and micronutrients, and some reasonable exercise" ? and what's the overlap between these two classes ?
mircea_popescu: this is no excuse, of course, you gotta restock and insist. but people who dunno this dunno what they need to do, either.
mircea_popescu: just like the woman with a cunt infection is "uninclined to be sexy".
cazalla: mircea_popescu, nah, local supermarket use to do roast chickens for $2 at the end of the day
mircea_popescu: which is the biological reason why fat people are uninclined to be active.
mircea_popescu: but a) those are limited ; b) muscular activity doesn't magically turn oxalate-whatever into glucose and water ; c) in plenty of cases the fixed requirements of muscles actually further deplete already depleted stores of various nutrients.
mircea_popescu: anyway, what i was going to say : the being active thing helps, in people with sane problems, in no large part because it exercises the glucide -> protein pathways.
BingoBoingo: Ended in 1988, huge amount of bitching because people would spend so much on credit for the deduction.
BingoBoingo: You'd be surprised the way Americattle latch onto incentives
assbot: Logged on 22-09-2015 22:07:44; mircea_popescu: "really ? make them sit on a pineapple."
mircea_popescu: but not giving scooters to fat people won't help them be less fat.
mircea_popescu: if their brain forces them to worship you, like child brain does, or if they willingly worship you, like slave does, then yes you can order them into anything.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i srslyhave yet to see a problem that can be fixed by authoritarian approach in people other than children and slaves.
BingoBoingo: The hamplanet problem isn't helped by calorie depots offering scooty puffs so a planet need only walk from their car into the store, to restock on calories
mircea_popescu: the reason that fat doesn't go away is that the liver knows what's in it, and doesn't feel itself equal to the task of opening that nuclear casket.
mircea_popescu: since fat burial is not in the same sense limited, people get what's known as "unloseable weight".
mircea_popescu: meanwhile the intake is not limited by anythning but the size of the throat and one's patience to keep shoving things down it.
mircea_popescu: the excretion happens through skin, urine etc. but in all these avenues it is fixed and limited.
BingoBoingo: The crossfit thing is a cult where they celebrate initiates puking in the gym like college freshmen at a frat party and exalt the old hands working their muscles until the break down to the point of killing their kidneys
mircea_popescu: the OTHER however, and in the us population without exception the more important, is toxin load. the body has two approaches to dealing with toxins : excretion and fat burial.
mircea_popescu: anywya, to get back to the original thing. there are two components to being a hamplanet. one is the heavy calorie intake in a very poorly balance diet. lacking sufficient long tail nutrients, the body finds itself stuck and unable to handle the food intake, much like a builder that gets fifty barges of bricks but no mortar, no rebar, no nothing can't really make houses, just brickpiles.
BingoBoingo: The crossfit/Rhabdo thing is the perfect warning for taking even "functional" movements too far
BingoBoingo: Best examples I can think of for that come from baseball. No single movement is too strenuous, but the elite players all get crippling over use injuries that will knock them out of the game for a year at a time
cazalla: and not like i ever got in there trying to swing as much weight up as possible using momentum etc
BingoBoingo: Squats are the women's lift. Builds dat ass
cazalla: sleep, lift, eat a whole chicken, sleep, lift, eat a whole chicken.. even for a guy it gets old, women at zero risk of being beefcaked from lifting, never saw a woman in the gym i ever thought needed to stop squatting
mircea_popescu: (pisses them the shit off, the "even more for a woman" part. i got some reasonable biceps, nothing athletic, just, healthy male human sort of thing. and well... woman can't get it. six months later, gained 1/4 inch, i never work out, cue the ragenvy)
mircea_popescu: but you have a point, it's not like, two weeks!!1 sorta thing. and im not very hardline about it either.
mircea_popescu: oh, no, they can all kick better than i can lol.
cazalla: or is simply the case that she might hit back harder? :P
cazalla: unless they're eating dianabols for breaky, how is that gunna happen though?
mircea_popescu: i actually don't let teh womenz lift lest they get too big.