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jurov: iirc the keyserver will be geared maximally toward manual process
mircea_popescu: motherfucker. see, this is how bad ideas corrupt.
mircea_popescu: e jury must decide the fate of the defendant-patient. And the FDA--judge simply makes sure everyone is civil. Not accurate, save for outright perjury; just civil."
mircea_popescu: I'm going to repeat this because I know people are going to misunderstand me: the system that you want is impossible to construct in the framework of modern medicine, if for no other reason than doctors don't read-- derive no benefit from reading. The system does not exist, and you cannot create it. Psychiatry is politics; medicine is the justice system. Pharma are the opposing lawyers, and doctors are the jury. Th
mircea_popescu: a treatment. It's not all the doctors' fault; but that's the system.
mircea_popescu: "Pharma is the backbone of medicine, because, unfortuantely, medicine is about treatment, not prevention. If a doctor recommends exercise, or garlic, or even aspirin, it's a sidenote, and a quaint one. "Oh, my doctor thinks I should move to Florida for my asthma!" Meanwhile, they'll give out the amoxicillin to every crying toddler, even though they know that that is detrimental. you know why? Because it looks like
kakobrekla: also wasnt there the idea of running ba keyserver?
trinque: thestringpuller: take a heroic dose of a psychedelic alone; works as well as a fight
kakobrekla: i think there was a discussion back then about this, having it coupled or uncoupled
mircea_popescu: imo the right play would be to stop refreshing and move to a "provide your pubkey in pastebin" model. prhaps even to be enhanced to a "ask someone in wot to sign your pubkey and give it to assbot" later. too soon for that imo.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:56:15; mircea_popescu: phf i doubt assbot actually updates them. it might also not look at expirations, i dunno how kakobrekla did it, maybe he weighs in.
mircea_popescu: all neurosis works the same way, the subject replaces the thing as is with a construct in his own head.
mircea_popescu: the ancient theory on consumptive masturbation was that monsters are a figment of the imagination, and so the practical cure was to expose the young man to ACTUAL, ie, anatomically accurate depictions of the other gender. what today we'd call porn.
mircea_popescu: for young males with anxiety "disorders" the only workable solution is to get into a lot of fights.
thestringpuller: for people with anxiety disorders: what works for you other than drugz?
asciilifeform: binaryatrocity: and consider moving away from keybase. generate a civilized key on your own hardware, sign it with the old, and quit sharing private key with the enemy.
asciilifeform: binaryatrocity: register with assbot; at some point, other people might rate you, and then you will be self-voicing.
binaryatrocity: yes but I cannot yet voice myself, and the "requirements to be in Assbots WoT can be found <here>" link goes to the homepage
asciilifeform: binaryatrocity: it is a search command. if you follow the link, will see discussions of the item from the past. might learn something.
binaryatrocity: The pleasure is all mine. Well met.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this is how condoms break if they do.
mircea_popescu: punkman ah i hate the pulling out stuff
assbot: Miss Platnum - Give Me The Food (Offizielles Musikvideo) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1k1iQFm )
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:47:10; mircea_popescu: i have never, ever, in my fucking life been in a situation where pumping dried out the woman. how the fuck does this work even ?
punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2015#1297582 given enough airflow and pulling out on the outstroke, it's sort of possible, at least temporarily
punkman: BingoBoingo: If there was a single cannon the idiots could take it << no no the cannon takes the idiots, unless I'm out of powder
mircea_popescu: and concentrate that time, and then get the hell out of the way."
mircea_popescu: "I have a surprising piece of advice for parents, which I hope will be taken in the spirit it is offered: your kid doesn't want to be around you that much. No one does. This isn't because you're a bad person but because you're an ordinary person. You are not such a unique, creative, intelligent or even interesting person that the kid benefits from constant exposure to you. When you have something to offer, maximize
mircea_popescu: i've seen the thing where after a bout of sustained fucking her cunt would leak of its own volition for another fucking hour, yes. but what is this sandy bitch bs.
mircea_popescu: i have never, ever, in my fucking life been in a situation where pumping dried out the woman. how the fuck does this work even ?
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: The Effects Of Too Much Porn: "He's Just Not That Into Anyone" ... ( http://bit.ly/1OyoH09 )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2011/02/hes_just_not_that_into_anyone.html << how the fuck does he figure THE GUY has chronic sexual dysfunction ?
mircea_popescu: motherfucker! who has this problem ?!
mircea_popescu: y, that one more condom wouldn't make the necessary difference."
mircea_popescu: "I met the woman at a Broadway show, but the night's best piece of acting, I'd say, came from me, back at her East Village apartment, after we'd been having sex for about 25 minutes, with Neil Young wailing the song "Comes a Time" from the laptop on her bedside table. The dried-out condom had a full-bodied choke hold on me, but I'd already stopped twice to put on a fresh one, and I knew, as I kept earnestly pumping awa
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 03:15:13; mircea_popescu: thjat's why borax gets them. it scratches their carpace, they lose water.
asciilifeform: 'works of nature', even at their ugliest, don't provoke in my mind a sense of the monstrous - because they do not have the flavour of dead ends.
mircea_popescu: thjat's why borax gets them. it scratches their carpace, they lose water.
mircea_popescu: cockroaches are pretty interesting as far as that goes. for instance : did you know that the entire fucking genus, which is immnse, strictly depends on there not being abrasive surfaces ?
asciilifeform: in fact, at this point if i had to choose whether to spend the rest of my days in the close warm company of cockroaches, XOR with c++ - would likely pick the former..
asciilifeform: and i'm well aware that some of the subjects i work on arouse much the same reaction in yet other people.
asciilifeform: there is prolly at least one lucky fella to whom every gram of those 5kg of roaches steaming out of the kitchen cabinets is a fascinating treasure.
mircea_popescu: anyway, that's the cultural antrhopologist standing story an' im sticking by it : speech is interesting because it provides permanence in a very improbable setting.
asciilifeform: from the problems-we-don't-have series! (tm) (r)
mircea_popescu is well gratefull to be dead long before he'd reach the end of anything.
mircea_popescu: it'd then be the case that sooner or larter we;'d have to do everything. EVERYTHING.
mircea_popescu: well... they're colored. you ever seen my pic with the sea slugs ?
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:34:57; mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving."
asciilifeform: it was re: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2015#1297452 . to which my reflexive reaction is much the same as that of a non-entomologist is to five kilograms of cockroaches pouring out of a kitchen cabinet.
mircea_popescu: and i meant indelible not inedible. i blame the keyboard.
asciilifeform has exhausted his brain-stack depth and forgotten the return address of what originated this train of thought
mircea_popescu: that's your inedible point of contact : the same agent that cooed and went heels over head through the use of the same mechanism then taught you how to usew that mechanism.
asciilifeform: i was referring to the cultural context of what-makes-man
mircea_popescu: he fucked the woman that taught you to speak yo.
mircea_popescu: you are familiar with the basics of human sexuate reproduction i expect ?
mircea_popescu: that's how that thing got added in there, outside of that line it's dead.
mircea_popescu: grandfather is only present in the father (and his antecessors) chain.
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the context of your father shares a lot with your own.
asciilifeform: so the grandfather-who-had-no-blowjob is every bit the man...?
asciilifeform: there we go.
mircea_popescu has serious trouble evaluating the gender of people who lived in socio-cultural constructs that share little with his own in any sort of term that's meaningful for common parlance.
mircea_popescu: dude i have no idea, the long dead are a 4th fucking gender.
asciilifeform: (there is not one shred of reliable evidence that he once fucked any living thing)
mircea_popescu: or in other words, the only reason you think they're still men is because their key expired and you don't have to refresh anything.
asciilifeform: the second was post-assbotization.
mircea_popescu: phf i doubt assbot actually updates them. it might also not look at expirations, i dunno how kakobrekla did it, maybe he weighs in.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but they are dubious scientists. if euclid walked over here and got into an argument with me over fucking bannach space algebra, pete_dushenski would prolly be right in his wing with a !rate euclid -1 gramps has nfi where his rope ends.
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't think that's the case. there's some magic happening, because there are no provissions to do a key refresh yet my formerly expired key still works.
asciilifeform: euclid never knew long division. gauss never beheld a pocket calculator. both, in my mind - men, just the same.
mircea_popescu: but some common ground can be found. "your wife won't do what you tell her to ? what does the possessive denote then ?" for instance. "oh but it hurts. and she finds it disgusting". yeah. that's the fucking point. of course she'll obey an order to eat more chocolate.
mircea_popescu: to some people, the notion that men aged > 50 today as well as their antecessors didn't do x y z thing automatically disqualifies them, as men. to some other, it's just ridoinculous bs.
asciilifeform: glad the matter is in good hands...
asciilifeform: but... srsly what else exciting action am i missing?! anal sex among sewer rats? should i be constructing a robotic camera to determine its quality in the pipes underneath my street ?
asciilifeform actually does not know the answer to this riddle
mircea_popescu: did your father get a blowjob ?
asciilifeform: wake me up when the feminism-is-back-in-mainstream-jezebel-access-hollywood thing is paradigmatically darwin-shifting something.
mircea_popescu: the thing with science is that there's no science outside of what science you make. there's no wave function in the actual fucking fermion.
mircea_popescu: here's a pro tip : everyone investigating matters out of paradigm decide, with clockwork regularity, that their attempt was a mistake.
asciilifeform: try as i might, the thing fails to clear my wetware spam filter.
mircea_popescu: the same thing you gain from trying to figure anything else out.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:34:57; mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving."
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:08:02; mircea_popescu: you want a washbasin to shit in, plug the bidet and go at it.
assbot: Logged on 13-10-2015 02:07:53; *: mircea_popescu never uses the innundated toilet model. it's fucking stupid.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2015#1297438 << they are sop in usa. to this day i do not know precisely why.
mircea_popescu: he entrenchment of an aristocracy, can't have one without the other once you get bigger than 20M, ask Bismarck. "Does he write for Time?" No. But keep this in mind every time you hear how great it is Bill Gates is curing malaria after leaving us all with Windows."
mircea_popescu: in media and not understand media? The fact that feminism is in the mainstream means that it doesn't exist, it is no longer real, in the same way that when you hear "gun control debate" it's a lie and "fiscal cliff" is an easy to market, safe distraction from the structural problems that can never be named, here's one: for any heterogeneous population, the expansion of a "welfare class" is logically inseparable from t
mircea_popescu: "For the past two weeks Sandberg was anywhere nothing useful is happening, and I'm going to include Facebook in that. Some cry-baby over at Jezebel was thrilled that Sandberg was featured all week on Access Hollywood, holy Christ, she thought this was a good thing. "Feminism is back in the mainstream in a big way," she wrote, I assume in between quaaludes, "the women's movement is actually moving." How can you work
mircea_popescu: and in other news these monte cristos are fucking exquisite.
mircea_popescu: consensus is the sure sing of a cattle herd.
BingoBoingo: If there was a single cannon the idiots could take it
mircea_popescu: the side point being that agreement is neither required nor actually the criteria.
mircea_popescu: just a large-ish body of accepted knowledge which merely appears accepted "by everyone" in the sense that nobody agrees with all of it but nobody has seriously attacked all of it.
phf: i thought the matter of subkeys, "automatic" key replacements or substituions was settled by hanbot's story. i really put too much faith in it as the b-a canon seems like
mircea_popescu: you want a washbasin to shit in, plug the bidet and go at it.
mircea_popescu never uses the innundated toilet model. it's fucking stupid.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Catfish: The Real Danger Of Social Media ... ( http://bit.ly/1GETBNO )
mircea_popescu: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2010/10/catfish.html << i thought i saw a bunch of bad films. omfg i dunno where this guy shops but i've never seen films half as bad as the fucktarded youtube facebook shit he's watching.
mircea_popescu: lor you mean of the whole thing ?
mircea_popescu: at the various conferences.
punkman: anyway, good thing I distributed my key before the shappening ;)
shinohai: ^ would love to purchase for the sole purpose of making court-ordered payments
asciilifeform: a treatise re: all of the (identifiable!) ways in which the rfc is retarded, would exceed the rfc in length, manyfold
mircea_popescu: it's not like the distinction is in any way meaningful. it's pure bullshit, which is one of the major reasons the pgp "standard" is so borken. there's no actual enforcing of the notions it then purports to expose to the verbal world.
asciilifeform: punkman: didja miss the nyooz item where the collision approached the cheap-as-dirt point ?
asciilifeform: the fp is a sha1
punkman: I don't see any mention of sha1 in the rfc regarding subkey sigs etc
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 22:51:13; punkman: btw if you don't want the signatures on your subkeys being sha1, I think --cert-digest-algo is the option that needs changing
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1297376 << this does absolutely nothing about the subkey signatures OR the fingerprints
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 no reason not to publish the thing now.
nubbins`: "If I was in their shoes, I'd..." ...suck just like they do
mircea_popescu: funny how many people discover they really got nothing to say once the gate is there.
mircea_popescu: miss california / miss usa aspirant, asked by that slime perez hilton what she thinks of same sex marriages, didn't have the presence of mind to tell the old fag to stuff it with the bullying, as this is about hot young women not about wrinkly old poofs nobody would fuck with a loaned goat penis,
mircea_popescu: unrelatedly, anyone familiar with the life of this 2010 rapunzel, carrie perjean ?
punkman: btw if you don't want the signatures on your subkeys being sha1, I think --cert-digest-algo is the option that needs changing
mircea_popescu: can you demonstrate rsa malleability in the sense of, appending "pete_dushenski.rate.punkman.2:" as prefix to cyphertext ?
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the basic problem is that you are decrypting $blob and, so long as the output has the expected form (and how many of us check? yes, i check. but there are folks who will pipe it straight into their irc via shellatron. yes, you know who you are
mircea_popescu: kinda why the issuie is an elephant in room : we (i) dun really wanna go into it because it's such a bitch to manage and creeping featuritis 5 ways to sunday
jurov: okay, then there can be both serial number and previous hash
mircea_popescu: ascii_field i still dun get what the problem is.
mircea_popescu: no, but if the number reads "4" you don't need to be shown the deed with number 3 to know 4 is a valid number.
pete_dushenski off for a jog then more turkey. so much more turkey.
jurov: which will be own field and goes into the signature
ascii_field: so he modifies assbot so that the next time mircea_popescu is given otp token, it is actually carrying the rsa-enciphered symmetric key from $message
mircea_popescu: jurov but at the time you see 4, you do not see 3.
jurov: then space for forgery diminishes dramatically
ascii_field: (from some captured email in the past)
jurov: how chaining them by hash makes them mutable?
mircea_popescu: jurov no, they have to be immutable.
ascii_field: the text.
mircea_popescu: the text is "assbot:pete_dushenski.rate.punkman.2:blabla"
ascii_field: the other thing, you are not decrypting the string !
ascii_field: (i.e., we ~think~ we are decrypting garbage, but who knows what it is. perhaps nsa killed kakobrekla and the next auth token is actually using the symmetric key header from your last transmission to the satellite !!)
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1297290 << incidentally, this is the cue i've been waiting for to bring up an old observation of mine re: assbot and similar:
mircea_popescu: otherwise you get a disaster of commons situation where 5k services are stuck doing things because you were bored one evening. that might work for a woman's book club\
ascii_field: the flip side of this is that civil-death-by-dint-of-key-compromise will become a thing.
mircea_popescu: puts the cost of security right where it belongs : on the key owner.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it allows you to update it. the idea that others would accept your update on your own terms and for free is bizarre and i guess unwarranted. going forward i imagine moist everything will be financed through fees on key updates. such as say assbot.
nubbins`: the wisdom of buying a private key is left as an exercise to the reader
ascii_field: because 1) he would have to send a shuttle to his orbital station to swap out the ROM with the old key 2) people could sell mpex accounts!!111111
ascii_field: jurov, mircea_popescu: iirc mircea_popescu did not accept refreshed subkeys either
ascii_field: (publishing garbage signed thereby, with the serial number incrementing)
ascii_field: (does anyone have the link handy where i described this scheme ?)
ascii_field: but yes, the basic scheme is one that i described before
mircea_popescu: ie, you've fucked the goat.
mircea_popescu: once a duplicate is found, the key is dead.
mircea_popescu: they're both fake.
ascii_field: then points to your material, says 'this is fake'
mircea_popescu: jurov because the date at which a message was signed is not verifiable.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field because if i say "no messages with index past 500 may be signed by this key" the key actually is verifdiably dead.
mircea_popescu: that given the known weaknesses of the pgp protocol as it is, the only responsible manner of using it is to include an index in every signed item, and to increment it by one every time you sign anything.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the elephant in the room sort of point we've been avoiding is this :
mircea_popescu: but yes, as alf describes, you can move them over.
mircea_popescu: jurov you're also expected to have the same penis for the next40+ years.
assbot: Logged on 14-05-2015 21:32:19; mircea_popescu: if you can upgrade your key for free, you don't have to pay mpex, you can just find someone with a key they don't want to use anymore and they can "upgrade" theirs to yours.
nubbins`: the point that i shouldn't have to expose my body to some random gov employee in order to exercise my charter rights was lost on many
jurov: yes. and was the problem tackled that i'm apparently expected to have one key for next 40+ years?
pete_dushenski: "Keefe had to leave his 'ugly stick' at the door. The homemade musical instrument is popular in mummer tradition. (Courtesy of Jon Keefe)" << nubbins`! you're famous !
BingoBoingo: "I needed to be somewhere by 6 p.m., and all of the active chargers were full. I couldn't plug in all day," he said. "There was a Volt that appeared to be finished charging, so I unplugged it so I could get a half-hour boost. The Volt isn't pure electric -- it also has a gasoline engine. The next day, I learned that the Volt owner was furious, and he sent out this email blast saying that I stole his charge. It was awful."
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 04:09:35; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-10-2015#1296418 << this identification issue is quite the hot button item in canadian federal politics atm, mostly surrounding the use of the niqab by new immigrants during citizenship swearing-in ceremonies.
ascii_field: BingoBoingo: i almost expect there to appear some idiot rob-peter-pay-paul scheme where plebes' petrol cars have to spin wheels on a treadmill to charge some eloi's 'tesla', in lieu of parking fee, or the like
pete_dushenski: sounds like the green party needs me more than i need them
nubbins`: i hit up the advance polls
pete_dushenski: i'd sooner gamble on the outcome than show up to the booth
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: you can get 19-inch racks lined with cork, with acoustic baffles for the exhaust (think auto muffler or pistol silencer)
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: line the door with acoustic cork.
ascii_field: (everyone with even a passing interest in mnemonics, at least in the english world, knows this one)
pete_dushenski: http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/philg/2015/10/12/clojure-if-lisp-is-so-great-why-do-we-keep-needing-new-variants/ << i'll just leave this here. i expect the comments will prove entertaining for the lispers here
deedbot-: [Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski] D3C3N7R4L1S3 4LL 7H3 7H1NGZ! Except for these ones. - http://www.contravex.com/2015/10/12/d3c3n7r4l1s3-4ll-7h3-7h1ngz-except-for-these-ones/
assbot: The news wants to do a story on the $500 computer Bitcoin lock hack. Does anyone know anyone affected by this? : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1G24DlG )
ascii_field: same site also hosts marvels like 'A New Block Size Increase BIP is Planned for the ‘Rough Consensus’ from Montreal' and 'The Josh Garza Interview: Organized Crime, Threats and Is He In America?'
shinohai: "It should be noted that Longtime Bitcoin Entrepreneur Mircea Popescu also shared his own account of Bitcoin adoption in Argentina roughly a year ago. His full teardown of the idea that Bitcoin is taking off in Argentina can be read on his blog."
mircea_popescu: "You might think that the rage is the spark for a transformation of America, a full scale Dagny Taggart meltdown or Bolshevik revolution, depending on your hat. That's not how it works. If this is narcissism, then its purpose is protecting identity, defending against change. Doesn't matter what side you think you're on, unless you are unplugged you are for the status quo."
shinohai: I liked the writing style, I bookmarked for future reading thanx!
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 19:53:09; mircea_popescu: jurov http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2012/11/hipsters_on_food_stamps_part_2.html
mircea_popescu: tbh i think his grasp of the fargo demographic is much better than his grasp of cali.
ascii_field: this re: the 'busy pretending'
ascii_field: tlp's usa exists. but i am stuck reading about it in the fishwrap.
mircea_popescu: too busy pretending something or the other, as the case may be.
mircea_popescu: well they can't eat.
mircea_popescu: amusingly, even the people who claim not to watch tv.
mircea_popescu: (to bother americans, play porn over dinner.)
mircea_popescu: it's a fruit off the same bizarro tree of their sexuality.
mircea_popescu: he has a point, tho. they actually DO this.
ascii_field: mircea_popescu: that was one of the times when i thought 'wtf is this'
mircea_popescu: but for the record, this "perverse pleasure" is strictly a ustardian thing.
mircea_popescu: e is in your living room, eyeballing the nice things in your home. If it is a fact that you will inevitably give him the money, is it easier to for you to pair it with your venom or your sympathy? Though it's enraging, there is a perverse pleasure in giving that bastard the money. It tells you that you showed him that you are better than him."
mircea_popescu: "If this seems implausible to you, which it must-- that's exactly the point of it-- consider the following extreme analogy, which surprisingly will be easier to understand, which is also the whole point: Say your father raped you repeatedly for a decade. Hold on, slow down, it gets worse: now you're 40, and he shows up asking you for $2400 because, and I quote, "you have a responsibility to take care of me." There h
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Randi Zuckerberg Thinks We Should Untangle Our Wired Lives ... ( http://bit.ly/1IeLRBJ )
mircea_popescu: if you meant the last one.
assbot: The Last Psychiatrist: Hipsters On Food Stamps, Part 2 ... ( http://bit.ly/1hAVW5Y )
jurov: ^^^ where are the quotations from?
ascii_field: any other policy, not my place, I am pointing out that doing it the way it's done protects the 1% by letting the Aspirational 14%-- who crave recognition and are easily identifiable and hatable because they are poseurs, just of a different kind-- act as human shields. They take the bullets, the unknown mega-rich take tinted window rides to the Hamptons.'
ascii_field: 'Here's the other side's example: when they talk about raising taxes on the rich, why do they pick a "low" point and push it higher? Should the highest rates be at $250k/yr? $300k? Another way of doing it, which is precisely why they cannot do it, is start at the top and move down. "We need $1T. Ok, top five guys pay 90%. Not enough? How about top ten guys pay 90%. Not enough? Top...." I'm not advocating this or
mircea_popescu: he price of food stamps. Other correct responses would be $700/mo for "some high school" (SSI) or $1500/mo for "previous work experience" (unemployment). I would have accepted $2000/mo for "minorities" (jail) for partial credit."
mircea_popescu: " Is there a natural economic equilibrium price where, say, a U Chicago grad can do no economically productive work at all but still be paid to use Instagram? Let me be explicit: my question is not should we do this, my question is that since this is precisely what's happening already, is it sustainable? What is the cost? I don't have to run the numbers, someone already has: it's $150/mo for a college grads, i.e. t
ascii_field: ^ any to any other reversers or aspiring reversers.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: heck, it's practically done already, newton raves madly for most of the lenght.
mircea_popescu: for that matter, i can make a summary statement of calculus that reads exactly like timecube for the first half. after which it starts falling into place.
ascii_field: because we discard, or emplace, axioms, based on whether we get timecube or skyscraper.
mircea_popescu: in so being, they also become a descriptor of your worth as a being. there's no good reason to pick any set nor a good method to find out which to pick.
mircea_popescu: they ARE equivalent. a picture of a car IS equivalent to a picture of a slut even if a car and a slut are not equivalent. axioms are just that, axioms. arbitrary statements for no reason with no cause.
ascii_field: (and, by extension, with the notion that they are equivalent)
ascii_field: some axioms give you euclid, others - timecube.
ascii_field: but there is no mechanical means of establishing that you have them.
ascii_field: as in, having the proper pubkeys makes everything else non-spoofable
mircea_popescu: WHY is it the root! what the fuck is this, the game of calling things things ?
mircea_popescu: "why are you looking at woman's ass ?" "because it is in the middle of my interest."
ascii_field: because they are the root of the trust circuit
mircea_popescu: why do i look at a woman's ass ? ask me that, go in the corner on knees on rice.
ascii_field: i'm prepared to explain re: the pubkeys, it is really very simple
mircea_popescu: why the pubkeys, not the files ?
mircea_popescu: also importantly, "by making the mathematical approach to many pricing problems unfeasible". MANY. not all. not "set of tyres" necessarily.
mircea_popescu: no qualms with that. and he who is in the driver seat is the driver. excuse me while i don't stick around with sweving cars.
ascii_field: and here i thought mircea_popescu believed in 'who is in the elite seat, is the elite'
mircea_popescu: i loved the soviet system except for the parts where it deeply misunderstood elite.
ascii_field: by this logic, mircea_popescu oughta love the soviet system
mircea_popescu: otherwise derps will go right on into the swamp of mechanised trust / resource allocation / doom on a stick.
mircea_popescu: unintentionally and approximately, by sheer accident, providing the effect of http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296575
mircea_popescu: by making the mathematical approach to many pricing problems unfeasible, they prevent undesirable mechanization.
mircea_popescu: by the time you're done alf will have done his routing by hand.
mircea_popescu: now go, compute the cost of rent. as a scalar.
mircea_popescu: or, as it more often the case "you know, i still owe you on that grain deal. if only you actually wanted any of the shit i have." "well actually i'm moving to argentina" "omfg yes. would you like an apartment ?"
phf: "how do i put it in the terms you understand? an apartment for $300 a month. -- whoa! how do i get that? -- sure, so 5 apartments in this building, 7 year contract, i'll give you a 25% discount, that'll be $94.5k. my secretary will give your secretary ach routing details."
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ascii_field: !s tenser, said the tensor
mircea_popescu: " I'll grant that there is some level of bonding that occurs between women over baby pictures, worth exploring later, but not for men: men will only (and rarely) show photos of their children doing something, the activity is what represents the kid as kid and them as a parent. Showing a man a baby picture is equivalent to showing a woman a picture of his car. "A #baby is more important than a car, dontcha think?" Ye
mircea_popescu: "However, not all women are the target demo of Randi's lip synching, the CEO of General Dynamics is a woman, I think she has a higher security clearance than the entire Senate, and I know for a fact she builds alien spaceships, why not interview her about how she uses social media to promote her brand and make connections and break ceilings? Because there's no Like button for hard work or triple integrals, which is do
mircea_popescu: so i started on that medium article, by the 2nd paragraph i was skimming, by the 8th or so i bailed. i guess not the demo.
mircea_popescu: me likes the way ben_vulpes's stylistics is distilling itself over time.
mircea_popescu: "The final piece of the puzzle is a bonkers fiscal environment driving capital misallocation on a scale that tiny shot-pulling brains simply cannot wrap themselves around. Take Adam, Bill, and Charlie: three young men who all attended Harvard together, and went into finance seperately."
mircea_popescu: this is practically rome conquering greece. tho im kinda curious to see if the us actually has in it anything OTHER than byzantium.
mircea_popescu: seems the two parties are finding an amiable solution. win-win as they say : china is more than happy to own the ground, and us is more than happy to continue pretending indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: "The power is traded for the fetish of power. That's not capitalism, it is madness, and apparently Davos and Randi think women especially will heart it. "
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296856 << china likes us start-up culture and its effects. "never interrupt enemy when making a mistake". traditionally you wouldn't have the gall to pointedly help him, either, but i think mr xi correctly inferred ustardian head too far up ass to even notice.
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 06:35:13; pete_dushenski: "sham ceremonies offer unparalleled chances to meet new potential partners. “It’s easier to meet someone at a fake wedding,” says Boniface. “I’d walk up and introduce myself as a cousin of the groom, and the girls immediately fell into their role. It’s like a game everyone joins in.”" << no es un pais pobre, es un pais de jugadores !
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296834 << eh this is a thing in romania/eastern europe too. they do a summer festival over in the student quarter, let kids marry for a day.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296821 << that's not the problem, i don't need you to let me in. the problem is that you don't have the means to distinguish between one "humanities" and another humanities. that's the fucking problem. you can sort out a bad engineer in all of five minutes, just ask pointed questions.
mircea_popescu: and the ones where i stayed it was mostly because table and alcohol.
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 04:29:18; phf: but anyway nicholson in his early carrier basically has only one character, there's the pure form of that character in one flew..., there's the scary version in the shining and there's the funny version in the witches of eastwick, if you watch these three movies you'll be basically experience the entire nicholson acting range :>
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 04:20:24; pete_dushenski: phf: seems like the majority of woody allen movies fall into the 'kapstnik' camp
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-10-2015#1296786 << minus the strong actors. what, b lister mia farrow ?
mircea_popescu: i forgot what the one is where he fucks a woman's twennysomething daughter and then ends up marring the woman.
mircea_popescu: tho he does a lot of these "actual old/wounded male interacting with fucktarded us women" things.
assbot: Logged on 12-10-2015 04:12:18; phf: pete_dushenski: i don't know how successful kesey was at capturing the mind of a schizophrenic, but he certainly was good at relaying an inner state of an acid head. the movie is something else entirely, but still great, since it's basically jack nicholson playing his only role at his best.

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