ascii_butugychag: and realize that we can set all the filenames to 'fuckyou' and v will still work
ascii_butugychag: as now.
ascii_butugychag: using the .name.sig convention
ascii_butugychag: protocol vs promise (tm) (r)
ascii_butugychag: rather than magicks in the filenamez.
ascii_butugychag: the correct way to do this is for the first seal to be deedbotted to produce the attribution of the author.
ascii_butugychag: recall how mircea_popescu argued that it makes no sense to mechanically distinguish between author and signers?
ascii_butugychag: why do you need to ?
ascii_butugychag: only the signer-name is machine-parsed
ascii_butugychag: the author name is for human eyes only
ascii_butugychag: that makes no difference
ascii_butugychag: instead of breaking v.
ascii_butugychag: why not FIX THE ML
ascii_butugychag: but... why??
ascii_butugychag: what the hell is wrong with . ?
ascii_butugychag: what os are you on that is happy with : in paths ? vms ?
ascii_butugychag: like what ?
ascii_butugychag: during every single op.
ascii_butugychag: so go ahead, don't parse, but then enjoy waiting
ascii_butugychag: jurov: theoretically you can avoid using the name prior to .sig, but then you have to check ALL seals agains ALL patches ALWAYS and this is O(N^2)
ascii_butugychag: these, ideally, will NOT always be the same, i keep trying to encourage folks to read and sign MY patches (and that of others)
ascii_butugychag: the second - used by the sig checker - is WHO SIGNED
ascii_butugychag: the first name (not used by v for anything) is the ~author~
ascii_butugychag: jurov, mod6: i designed the naming convention this way deliberately
ascii_butugychag: be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l
ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
ascii_butugychag: i was never able to get anything useful whatsoever from otc
ascii_butugychag: coinbase
ascii_butugychag: grudgingly spat forth some coin
ascii_butugychag: it worked about as well as 'golden age' gox
ascii_butugychag: in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox
ascii_butugychag: i even used it once !
ascii_butugychag: !s pressed cd
ascii_butugychag: yeah the old tree is close to useless
ascii_butugychag: imho everybody oughta be using v build at this point
ascii_butugychag: aaaancient history
ascii_butugychag: (or mircea_popescu or somebody)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo.
ascii_butugychag: well you are clearly on some heathen abomination
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: have you considered something like a human os ?
ascii_butugychag: who imagines this
ascii_butugychag: wai wut?!
ascii_butugychag: when standing next to
ascii_butugychag: possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ?
ascii_butugychag: ah!
ascii_butugychag: same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ?
ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing
ascii_butugychag: could fight on like the knight in monty python
ascii_butugychag: if this were not so, it would be quite difficult to die
ascii_butugychag: cascaded failure is the rule, rather than exception
ascii_butugychag: this, yes
ascii_butugychag: aha
ascii_butugychag: mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: how's that
ascii_butugychag: amazon, sure
ascii_butugychag: i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight
ascii_butugychag: ah cm
ascii_butugychag: and 168 of what?
ascii_butugychag: manul is pretty but not man-eating
ascii_butugychag: lynx happens to be my favourite felid
ascii_butugychag: (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?)
ascii_butugychag: the character quiz thing, etc
ascii_butugychag: it was a lulzy timewaster
ascii_butugychag: aha
ascii_butugychag last saw okc more than a decade ago
ascii_butugychag: of course it is full of folks playing.
ascii_butugychag: then why did mircea_popescu go to the playing room
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement'
ascii_butugychag: by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks
ascii_butugychag: moved because richer inca here than there
ascii_butugychag: not precisely
ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.
ascii_butugychag: usa had 'palace economy' for my entire adult life
ascii_butugychag: i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise
ascii_butugychag: well mexican narco or whatever is current
ascii_butugychag: ~everybody~ is in some way plugged in.
ascii_butugychag: but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: or his lockheed salary, aha
ascii_butugychag: etc
ascii_butugychag: 'diebold voted'
ascii_butugychag: i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!'
ascii_butugychag: that was more or less the end of the pretense
ascii_butugychag: but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: semi-electronic
ascii_butugychag: and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote)
ascii_butugychag: well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on
ascii_butugychag: and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people'
ascii_butugychag: (fickleness, occupying physical space, needing food, etc)
ascii_butugychag: because the real thing has various undesirable properties
ascii_butugychag: but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~
ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
ascii_butugychag: !s dead souls
ascii_butugychag: mechanized coolie aha.
ascii_butugychag: still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human
ascii_butugychag: if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one
ascii_butugychag: l0l!
ascii_butugychag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8054273/how-to-implement-an-stl-style-iterator-and-avoid-common-pitfalls/8054856#8054856 << ditto
ascii_butugychag: looks like a perfectly legit summary
ascii_butugychag: e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15235526/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c/15235626#15235626
ascii_butugychag: possibly 'paste fail' ?
ascii_butugychag: and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts
ascii_butugychag: quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily
ascii_butugychag: how so ?
ascii_butugychag: even in spamland
ascii_butugychag: ancient tech, at this point
ascii_butugychag: aha shannonizer
ascii_butugychag: l0l!
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what spam
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...
ascii_butugychag: i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this.
ascii_butugychag: but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere.
ascii_butugychag: only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram
ascii_butugychag: the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time
ascii_butugychag: ah
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: out for years ?
ascii_butugychag: so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd
ascii_butugychag: the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard...
ascii_butugychag: but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd
ascii_butugychag: actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown
ascii_butugychag: trinque: 'fc660c'
ascii_butugychag: a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk.
ascii_butugychag: 'not from a good life'
ascii_butugychag: trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows
ascii_butugychag: but has full-sized keys
ascii_butugychag: lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape
ascii_butugychag: l0l
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371131 << what was so hard about these
ascii_butugychag: mega-respekt
ascii_butugychag: scale exists for all. small boil? knife. gangrenous leg? saw.
ascii_butugychag: idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis
ascii_butugychag: scale.
ascii_butugychag: hobo is small change
ascii_butugychag: ence describes rent-seekers as well as hobos
ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
ascii_butugychag: (did, for a while. it was called 'occupy')
ascii_butugychag: http://bikeportland.org/2014/02/21/parks-works-to-clear-large-encampment-on-springwater-corridor-101898 << we don't have this here
ascii_butugychag: then what do i need, tank column ??
ascii_butugychag: l0l ben_vulpes with lictors
ascii_butugychag: !s from:ben_vulpes clang
ascii_butugychag: possibly
ascii_butugychag: clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not
ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)
ascii_butugychag: gcc.
ascii_butugychag: yes.
ascii_butugychag: xubuntu went clang ?!!
ascii_butugychag: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
ascii_butugychag: whatcha building on? nintendo ?
ascii_butugychag: fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory
ascii_butugychag: because you're paying for that transmission being there at all
ascii_butugychag: and it sucks
ascii_butugychag: nah that's what they do ~now~
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370918 << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating
ascii_butugychag: but, to borrow an uncleal-ism, 'But It Would Be Wrong'
ascii_butugychag: (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing)
ascii_butugychag: but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel.
ascii_butugychag: aha, ancient tech
ascii_butugychag: we even had'em in su
ascii_butugychag: large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ?
ascii_butugychag: engine per se is prolly south of 10k
ascii_butugychag: why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores
ascii_butugychag: who was dub anyway
ascii_butugychag: assbot was out
ascii_butugychag: wtf is a 'SPOF'
ascii_butugychag: where was this
ascii_butugychag: whereas today, what little remains is corralled
ascii_butugychag: and there were takers
ascii_butugychag: which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet
ascii_butugychag: many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time
ascii_butugychag: this was discussed on multiple occasions.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370878 << from the total and utter lack of anything like a wot marketplace for any thing i use whatsoever, i am stuck in heathendom (e.g., 'ebay') entirely
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370988 << congrats jurov !
ascii_butugychag: lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...'
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371052 << largely yes. though i can thing of, e.g., astronomers naming comets, etc
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371044 << reminds me, more than anything, of... urbit
ascii_butugychag: l0l
ascii_butugychag: ;;goxlag
ascii_butugychag: wai wut
ascii_butugychag: but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced.
ascii_butugychag: this is not a bug.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371072 << this is probably not surprising to anyone who's been paying attention, but a trb node that isn't up to current height won't relay any tx that involves blocks not yet seen
ascii_butugychag: unlike the intel turd
ascii_butugychag: and you can put linuxbios on it
ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
ascii_butugychag: i don't recommend it
ascii_butugychag: it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371082 << the lulzy bit is that i have a node going on EXACTLY THAT machine
ascii_butugychag: (is... staying home)
ascii_butugychag: !s the best car
ascii_butugychag: aha
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371097 << hitler's yacht was a diesel-electric thing and was taken as a spoil; after the war, it powered a good chunk of odessa, for a while, iirc
ascii_butugychag: and hey what happened to the other orks ? dignork ?
ascii_butugychag: maybe phf too.
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371101 << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref
ascii_butugychag: something like mircea_popescu's specimens from okc
ascii_butugychag: linked for entomological reasons
ascii_butugychag: l0ltr0nic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10902008 (subthread)
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371145 << Nothing Sucks Like Electrolux! (tm) (r) (actual)
ascii_butugychag: PeterL: did you somehow copy my key over every other ?
ascii_butugychag: i'd like to live to see it, even.
ascii_butugychag: sure is.
ascii_butugychag: l0lz
ascii_butugychag: why not ?
ascii_butugychag: so i'm not seeing any actual defeat here
ascii_butugychag: yesterday - hearn, tomorrow - some other
ascii_butugychag: thing is, muppets are cheap
ascii_butugychag: which is usg's new tack
ascii_butugychag: on account of the faux-trb 'bitcoin classic' crapolade
ascii_butugychag: he is being placed in storage
ascii_butugychag: l0l i'm still waiting for an ~actual~ seeeekrit
ascii_butugychag: afaik hearn was a loud, unrepentant 'garnish' from day 1 on stage ...?
ascii_butugychag: if he had to explain at all, he clearly failed to 'securitify' his job
ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: the observation was about 'job security'
ascii_butugychag: (if your system makes sense to others, you might get sacked, etc)
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: this is intensely selected for in the 'job market'
ascii_butugychag: my mind is still boggling at the sheer monumental complexity of the signed-git crud
ascii_butugychag: could i become a respectable sumo wrestler in the time i take on the train, aha.
ascii_butugychag: could they, now.
ascii_butugychag: l0l
ascii_butugychag: i think in the time it takes to even read that page, you could write a quite respectable v-tron...
ascii_butugychag: esp. to all the folks who want to 'automate' crypto
ascii_butugychag: mega-l0l, worth a read
ascii_butugychag: and behold,
ascii_butugychag: so i looked into what folks did in the dark ages prior to 'v'
ascii_butugychag: or would that be t3rr0r1zm!1111
ascii_butugychag: still waiting for anybody to suggest removing ALL the 'mebbe for later' crapolade
ascii_butugychag: 'The matching server code has never been shipped, but the client code was enabled by default and could be tricked by a malicious server into leaking client memory to the server, including private client user keys.
ascii_butugychag: brb train
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369493 << turned loooong ago
ascii_butugychag: what just happened ?
ascii_butugychag: somebody from the old era
ascii_butugychag: *obituary
ascii_butugychag vaguely recalls an obituaty of some #b-a old-timer in... 2012 ?
ascii_butugychag: nein
ascii_butugychag: hard to do, at the bottom of a mine shaft
ascii_butugychag: nope
ascii_butugychag recognized only one name in this sentence, tarantino
ascii_butugychag hasn't
ascii_butugychag: i can't name a philipina moanist, either..
ascii_butugychag: or what, this only happens on my planet
ascii_butugychag: etc
ascii_butugychag: theorems