ascii_butugychag: and realize that we can set all the filenames to 'fuckyou' and v will still work
    
    ascii_butugychag: as now.
    
    ascii_butugychag: using the .name.sig convention
    
    ascii_butugychag: protocol vs promise (tm) (r)
    
    ascii_butugychag: rather than magicks in the filenamez.
    
    ascii_butugychag: the correct way to do this is for the first seal to be deedbotted to produce the attribution of the author.
    
    ascii_butugychag: recall how mircea_popescu argued that it makes no sense to mechanically distinguish between author and signers?
    
    ascii_butugychag: why do you need to ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: only the signer-name is machine-parsed
    
    ascii_butugychag: the author name is for human eyes only
    
    ascii_butugychag: that makes no difference
    
    ascii_butugychag: instead of breaking v.
    
    ascii_butugychag: why not FIX THE ML
    
    ascii_butugychag: but... why??
    
    ascii_butugychag: what the hell is wrong with . ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: what os are you on that is happy with : in paths ? vms ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: like what ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: during every single op.
    
    ascii_butugychag: so go ahead, don't parse, but then enjoy waiting
    
    ascii_butugychag: jurov: theoretically you can avoid using the name prior to .sig, but then you have to check ALL seals agains ALL patches ALWAYS and this is O(N^2)
    
    ascii_butugychag: these, ideally, will NOT always be the same, i keep trying to encourage folks to read and sign MY patches (and that of others)
    
    ascii_butugychag: the second - used by the sig checker - is WHO SIGNED
    
    ascii_butugychag: the first name (not used by v for anything) is the ~author~
    
    ascii_butugychag: jurov, mod6: i designed the naming convention this way deliberately
    
    ascii_butugychag:  be a New York Times article saying Mike Hearn broke up with Bitcoin and called it a failed experiment."' << l0l
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
    
    ascii_butugychag: i was never able to get anything useful whatsoever from otc
    
    ascii_butugychag: coinbase
    
    ascii_butugychag: grudgingly spat forth some coin
    
    ascii_butugychag: it worked about as well as 'golden age' gox
    
    ascii_butugychag: in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox
    
    ascii_butugychag: i even used it once !
    
    ascii_butugychag: !s pressed cd
    
    ascii_butugychag: yeah the old tree is close to useless
    
    ascii_butugychag: imho everybody oughta be using v build at this point
    
    ascii_butugychag: aaaancient history
    
    ascii_butugychag: (or mircea_popescu or somebody)
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: not for nintendo. unless and until i port it to nintendo.
    
    ascii_butugychag: well you are clearly on some heathen abomination
    
    ascii_butugychag: PeterL: have you considered something like a human os ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: who imagines this
    
    ascii_butugychag: wai wut?!
    
    ascii_butugychag: when standing next to
    
    ascii_butugychag: possibly they actually think 'the light of the beauty' illuminates them ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: ah!
    
    ascii_butugychag: same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ?
    
    ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing
    
    ascii_butugychag: could fight on like the knight in monty python
    
    ascii_butugychag: if this were not so, it would be quite difficult to die
    
    ascii_butugychag: cascaded failure is the rule, rather than exception
    
    ascii_butugychag: this, yes
    
    ascii_butugychag: aha
    
    ascii_butugychag: mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: how's that
    
    ascii_butugychag: amazon, sure
    
    ascii_butugychag: i often wonder, how long would it take me to notice if every single wallmart vanished overnight
    
    ascii_butugychag: ah cm
    
    ascii_butugychag: and 168 of what?
    
    ascii_butugychag: manul is pretty but not man-eating
    
    ascii_butugychag: lynx happens to be my favourite felid
    
    ascii_butugychag: (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?)
    
    ascii_butugychag: the character quiz thing, etc
    
    ascii_butugychag: it was a lulzy timewaster
    
    ascii_butugychag: aha
    
    ascii_butugychag last saw okc more than a decade ago
    
    ascii_butugychag: of course it is full of folks playing.
    
    ascii_butugychag: then why did mircea_popescu go to the playing room
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement'
    
    ascii_butugychag: by '92 it was pretty clear what 'phreeee' meant for most folks
    
    ascii_butugychag: moved because richer inca here than there
    
    ascii_butugychag: not precisely
    
    ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.
    
    ascii_butugychag: usa had 'palace economy' for my entire adult life
    
    ascii_butugychag: i've never even personally sat more than 2 or so hops away from usg, payola-wise
    
    ascii_butugychag: well mexican narco or whatever is current
    
    ascii_butugychag: ~everybody~ is in some way plugged in.
    
    ascii_butugychag: but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: or his lockheed salary, aha
    
    ascii_butugychag: etc
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'diebold voted'
    
    ascii_butugychag: i was, in those days, a foolish student, and actually went and picketed 'your vote doesn't count! literally!'
    
    ascii_butugychag: that was more or less the end of the pretense
    
    ascii_butugychag: but as of the 2004 election, there is NOT A PERMA-RECORD of particular votes
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: semi-electronic
    
    ascii_butugychag: and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote)
    
    ascii_butugychag: well, certain ceremonies still require warm bodies, but this is being worked on
    
    ascii_butugychag: and for a great many purposes, spambots are at least as good as 'people'
    
    ascii_butugychag: (fickleness, occupying physical space, needing food, etc)
    
    ascii_butugychag: because the real thing has various undesirable properties
    
    ascii_butugychag: but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~
    
    ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
    
    ascii_butugychag: !s dead souls
    
    ascii_butugychag: mechanized coolie aha.
    
    ascii_butugychag: still seems like it could easily be a prolific and plagiaristic (e.g., east asian) human
    
    ascii_butugychag: if thing is a bot which cribs from www, it is a pretty good one
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l!
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8054273/how-to-implement-an-stl-style-iterator-and-avoid-common-pitfalls/8054856#8054856 << ditto
    
    ascii_butugychag: looks like a perfectly legit summary
    
    ascii_butugychag: e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15235526/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c/15235626#15235626
    
    ascii_butugychag: possibly 'paste fail' ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts
    
    ascii_butugychag: quite likely it is an 'imperium in imperio' upvote clique, elementarily
    
    ascii_butugychag: how so ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: even in spamland
    
    ascii_butugychag: ancient tech, at this point
    
    ascii_butugychag: aha shannonizer
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l!
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what spam
    
    ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...
    
    
    
    ascii_butugychag: i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this.
    
    ascii_butugychag: but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere.
    
    ascii_butugychag: only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram
    
    ascii_butugychag: the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time
    
    ascii_butugychag: ah
    
    ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: out for years ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: so ben_vulpes why does xcode take multiple minutes to load a 37 byte 'xml' turd
    
    ascii_butugychag: the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: nah, that'd be more merciful, doesn't need a keyboard...
    
    ascii_butugychag: but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd
    
    ascii_butugychag: actually it is extremely painful on account of missing f keys and home/end/pgup/pgdown
    
    ascii_butugychag: trinque: 'fc660c'
    
    ascii_butugychag: a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk.
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'not from a good life'
    
    ascii_butugychag: trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows
    
    ascii_butugychag: but has full-sized keys
    
    ascii_butugychag: lulzily i am using a keyboard at this minute that is only slightly bigger than a vhs tape
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371131 << what was so hard about these
    
    ascii_butugychag: mega-respekt
    
    ascii_butugychag: scale exists for all. small boil? knife. gangrenous leg? saw.
    
    ascii_butugychag: idk, even tepes was said to have used multiple calibers of stake, on a case by case basis
    
    ascii_butugychag: scale.
    
    ascii_butugychag: hobo is small change
    
    ascii_butugychag: ence describes rent-seekers as well as hobos
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
    
    ascii_butugychag: (did, for a while. it was called 'occupy')
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://bikeportland.org/2014/02/21/parks-works-to-clear-large-encampment-on-springwater-corridor-101898 << we don't have this here
    
    ascii_butugychag: then what do i need, tank column ??
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l ben_vulpes with lictors
    
    ascii_butugychag: !s from:ben_vulpes clang
    
    ascii_butugychag: possibly
    
    ascii_butugychag: clang/llvm is well-suited for vivisection, and gcc is, unfortunately (see old threads re: why) is not
    
    ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)
    
    ascii_butugychag: gcc.
    
    ascii_butugychag: yes.
    
    ascii_butugychag: xubuntu went clang ?!!
    
    ascii_butugychag: checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler... no
    
    ascii_butugychag: whatcha building on? nintendo ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: fatal error: sys/cdefs.h: No such file or directory
    
    ascii_butugychag: because you're paying for that transmission being there at all
    
    ascii_butugychag: and it sucks
    
    ascii_butugychag: nah that's what they do ~now~
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370918 << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating
    
    ascii_butugychag: but, to borrow an uncleal-ism, 'But It Would Be Wrong'
    
    ascii_butugychag: (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing)
    
    ascii_butugychag: but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel.
    
    ascii_butugychag: aha, ancient tech
    
    ascii_butugychag: we even had'em in su
    
    ascii_butugychag: large mining trucks and bulldozers are presently diesel-electric
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: engine per se is prolly south of 10k
    
    ascii_butugychag: why not also include the cost of the law school tuition and the whores
    
    ascii_butugychag: who was dub anyway
    
    ascii_butugychag: assbot was out
    
    ascii_butugychag: wtf is a 'SPOF'
    
    ascii_butugychag: where was this
    
    ascii_butugychag: whereas today, what little remains is corralled
    
    ascii_butugychag: and there were takers
    
    ascii_butugychag: which is interesting, because - before there even was 'ebay' - as a kid, i would buy/sell exotic hardware via usenet
    
    ascii_butugychag: many times i tried to buy something via otc, it was a sad joke every time
    
    ascii_butugychag: this was discussed on multiple occasions.
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370878 << from the total and utter lack of anything like a wot marketplace for any thing i use whatsoever, i am stuck in heathendom (e.g., 'ebay') entirely
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370988 << congrats jurov !
    
    ascii_butugychag: lulzily, unrelatedly, i warmed up engine at the crack of dawn, to head to the trains, and turned on radio, '...france demands regulation of terrorist finances, such as the use of virtual currencies, such as bitcoins...'
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371052 << largely yes. though i can thing of, e.g., astronomers naming comets, etc
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371044 << reminds me, more than anything, of... urbit
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l
    
    ascii_butugychag: ;;goxlag
    
    ascii_butugychag: wai wut
    
    ascii_butugychag: but it does mean that a trb node is largely useless until fully synced.
    
    ascii_butugychag: this is not a bug.
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371072 << this is probably not surprising to anyone who's been paying attention, but a trb node that isn't up to current height won't relay any tx that involves blocks not yet seen
    
    ascii_butugychag: unlike the intel turd
    
    ascii_butugychag: and you can put linuxbios on it
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'pcengines' makes a cheaper and physically more compact box with AMD chipset, of same horsepower
    
    ascii_butugychag: i don't recommend it
    
    ascii_butugychag: it is starvation-cheap, for a fanless pentium thing, and mostly runs
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371082 << the lulzy bit is that i have a node going on EXACTLY THAT machine
    
    ascii_butugychag: (is... staying home)
    
    ascii_butugychag: !s the best car
    
    ascii_butugychag: aha
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371097 << hitler's yacht was a diesel-electric thing and was taken as a spoil; after the war, it powered a good chunk of odessa, for a while, iirc
    
    ascii_butugychag: and hey what happened to the other orks ? dignork ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: maybe phf too.
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371101 << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref
    
    ascii_butugychag: something like mircea_popescu's specimens from okc
    
    ascii_butugychag: linked for entomological reasons
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0ltr0nic: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10902008 (subthread)
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371145 << Nothing Sucks Like Electrolux! (tm) (r) (actual)
    
    ascii_butugychag: PeterL: did you somehow copy my key over every other ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: i'd like to live to see it, even.
    
    ascii_butugychag: sure is.
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0lz
    
    ascii_butugychag: why not ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: so i'm not seeing any actual defeat here
    
    ascii_butugychag: yesterday - hearn, tomorrow - some other
    
    ascii_butugychag: thing is, muppets are cheap
    
    ascii_butugychag: which is usg's new tack
    
    ascii_butugychag: on account of the faux-trb 'bitcoin classic' crapolade
    
    ascii_butugychag: he is being placed in storage
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l i'm still waiting for an ~actual~ seeeekrit
    
    ascii_butugychag: afaik hearn was a loud, unrepentant 'garnish' from day 1 on stage ...?
    
    ascii_butugychag: if he had to explain at all, he clearly failed to 'securitify' his job
    
    ascii_butugychag: thestringpuller: the observation was about 'job security'
    
    ascii_butugychag: (if your system makes sense to others, you might get sacked, etc)
    
    ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: this is intensely selected for in the 'job market'
    
    ascii_butugychag: my mind is still boggling at the sheer monumental complexity of the signed-git crud
    
    ascii_butugychag: could i become a respectable sumo wrestler in the time i take on the train, aha.
    
    ascii_butugychag: could they, now.
    
    ascii_butugychag: l0l
    
    ascii_butugychag: i think in the time it takes to even read that page, you could write a quite respectable v-tron...
    
    ascii_butugychag: esp. to all the folks who want to 'automate' crypto
    
    ascii_butugychag: mega-l0l, worth a read
    
    
    
    ascii_butugychag: and behold,
    
    ascii_butugychag: so i looked into what folks did in the dark ages prior to 'v'
    
    ascii_butugychag: or would that be t3rr0r1zm!1111
    
    ascii_butugychag: still waiting for anybody to suggest removing ALL the 'mebbe for later' crapolade
    
    
    
    ascii_butugychag: 'The matching server code has never been shipped, but the client code was enabled by default and could be tricked by a malicious server into leaking client memory to the server, including private client user keys.
    
    
    
    
    
    ascii_butugychag: brb train
    
    
    
    
    
    ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-01-2016#1369493 << turned loooong ago
    
    ascii_butugychag: what just happened ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: somebody from the old era
    
    ascii_butugychag: *obituary
    
    ascii_butugychag vaguely recalls an obituaty of some #b-a old-timer in... 2012 ?
    
    ascii_butugychag: nein
    
    ascii_butugychag: hard to do, at the bottom of a mine shaft
    
    ascii_butugychag: nope
    
    ascii_butugychag recognized only one name in this sentence, tarantino
    
    ascii_butugychag hasn't
    
    ascii_butugychag: i can't name a philipina moanist, either..
    
    ascii_butugychag: or what, this only happens on my planet
    
    ascii_butugychag: etc
    
    ascii_butugychag: theorems