ben_vulpes: it's just a new milking.
ben_vulpes: under the bus?
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: hopefully you're taking notes
ben_vulpes: ya me either
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: how would one go about determining what parts of boost weren't needed and then compiling boost without those bits?
ben_vulpes: so it needs to be a 32 bit vm to compile pythongs for arm?!
ben_vulpes: hola pete_dushenski
ben_vulpes: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%21up+bagels7 << also lol dpb's got a crush
ben_vulpes returns to gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: hm.
ben_vulpes: state including libs it needs to run?
ben_vulpes: because it does not come complete with everything required for it to run, and depends on state of local machine doing the compiling?
ben_vulpes: what are the criteria for 'packagehood'?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: "linked at all" << (bear with my unsavvy, please) so gcc instructed to build statically should fail to link libnss because it dynamically links to system libs, but gcc instructed to build dynamicall should not fail under these conditions?
ben_vulpes: and the bug discovered in gcc is that it *warns* about this but does not die when run with static compile flags?
ben_vulpes: so the 'static' build i produced on my deb 6 VM wasn't *truly* static, but claimed to be even though it dynamically linked into libnss on whatever system on which it ran successfully?
ben_vulpes: trinque: virtualbox
ben_vulpes: trinque: VM. no metal in this hobbit-hole not running macbsd.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`, trinque: any particular vintage of gentoo recommended?
ben_vulpes sacrifices today on the altar of lizard hitler
ben_vulpes: i guess today is gentoo quest
ben_vulpes: blee
ben_vulpes: i'm looking for the 'how to gentoo without systemd for noobs' link
ben_vulpes: !s gentoo systemd
ben_vulpes: what are you using for virtualization? vagrant/virtualbox?
ben_vulpes: i see
ben_vulpes: 3.5 apiece or summed?
ben_vulpes: is that to compile buildroot itself or using buildroot to compile linuxen?
ben_vulpes: dag.
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: are you working with buildroot from within a gentoo vm on your mac?
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-04-2015#1088404 << how's this coming, btw?
ben_vulpes: buenos dias
ben_vulpes: i'm particularly frustrated at verifying sigs and what has one.
ben_vulpes: huh
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: do you do email in emacs? i've been using mu4e and am about out of patience - coming back around to "show me the ancient tools that handle this ancient problem".
ben_vulpes: i don't like it, it's just the ad-hoc thing that works today
ben_vulpes: trinque: you and i can collaborate any time that we want, by derping at our respective repos
ben_vulpes: does *not* compile to my requirements, i mean.
ben_vulpes: compiles to my requirements.
ben_vulpes: well, yes.
ben_vulpes: ah, nubbins -- sanity!
ben_vulpes: the shitty thing doesn't even compile yet
ben_vulpes: nobody's collaborating on anything man
ben_vulpes: etc*
ben_vulpes: attempt to compile et
ben_vulpes: branch, apply patch, run tests in vm
ben_vulpes: trinque: i keep my own vcs system and apply patches directly from mu4e
ben_vulpes: pleadarasty
ben_vulpes ponders his mental calendar
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> you know, like "what part of the us is nubs from ?" << bad example. canada is just unannexed right now.
ben_vulpes: all i care about is rockets
ben_vulpes: i am actually a horrible jew
ben_vulpes: shit jesus
ben_vulpes: i thought that was a british/irish thing.
ben_vulpes: death by embarrass
ben_vulpes: i know nothinggggg
ben_vulpes: :(
ben_vulpes: hurr durr ustard dun no geograpfiez
ben_vulpes: well, "russia"
ben_vulpes: hm what part of russia is he from?
ben_vulpes: well, eu that part of the world more than us.
ben_vulpes: ya christ
ben_vulpes: they're so down they make *you* want to kill yourself!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i like to complain as much as the next jew, but these russians!
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-04-2015#1085490 << one of the things i admire about you, asciilifeform, is your charming ability to paint just the most desolate picture of anyone's future for them.
ben_vulpes: old logs are a trip, i guess.
ben_vulpes: nubbins` going on about hif, steak, puss...
ben_vulpes: the whole log section is hilarious - some twenty lines in each direction
ben_vulpes: read the linked thread!
ben_vulpes: more ribbing nubbins`, really
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: tee hee i know
ben_vulpes: hey robert viragh fuck off quit emailing me.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-02-2014#533582 << curious to know if this ever happened
ben_vulpes: if you're in the wot that is
ben_vulpes: negrate the fucker
ben_vulpes: Cogburn: you savvy wot?
ben_vulpes: just so's i can take ye seriously?
ben_vulpes: Cogburn: get in the wot?
ben_vulpes: get your keys sorted, boss
ben_vulpes: welcome to the new world order
ben_vulpes: can't trust ya tho
ben_vulpes: HYU
ben_vulpes: bryce will also tell you that reputation doesn't matter either.
ben_vulpes: huehuehuehu i got a large seed investment for ya right here buddy
ben_vulpes: "The project will be a massive undertaking requiring a large seed investment. "
ben_vulpes: i guess that's what they call anyone who understands math these days.
ben_vulpes: first a girl, now a cryptographer?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu's a cryptographer nao?
ben_vulpes: if i recall correctly - it's been a few days
ben_vulpes: my debian as well
ben_vulpes: linkrot!
ben_vulpes: ah
ben_vulpes: "imh" << in my house?
ben_vulpes: naw, you're too old to be a noob anymore.
ben_vulpes: up yrs, asciilifeform
ben_vulpes: every 2 lines i have to hare off to the internet - "buildroot" "qemu"
ben_vulpes: it's not the number of lines but the maaaadness described herein
ben_vulpes: dude these logs are dense
ben_vulpes: ein popescu!
ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: are you coming to con3?
ben_vulpes: out, you
ben_vulpes: surely my finest work
ben_vulpes: ('here, let me duct tape a bunch of libs together so you get emails when your derps break the cpp compiled into the android code')
ben_vulpes: oh yeah. i did a continuous integration thinger for an android project recently.
ben_vulpes: talk about unexamined assumptions...
ben_vulpes: anyways, we need a build target. one. not the accidental build target of debian 6 that fell out of my archaeology project.
ben_vulpes: tell me about it.
ben_vulpes: if it doesn't work how is it a candidate now?
ben_vulpes: <mod6> [14:57] anyway, that's the deal. we need something that we can work with; one supported environment, blessed by alf. << asciilifeform, what's the One True Build Target for La Serenissima?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aha!
ben_vulpes: plenty happens beyond its domain. its domain, as was the french, is vastly less broad and strong than it thinks.
ben_vulpes: modern fascist state permutation of all aspects of life.
ben_vulpes: what now?
ben_vulpes: "everything comes from the government" my arse
ben_vulpes: salesforce either.
ben_vulpes: i dunno man, new relic isn't terrifically dependent on government purchases.
ben_vulpes: maybe not where you live.
ben_vulpes: oh, humbug.
ben_vulpes: "does the sub fly if i tape this jet engine to it?"
ben_vulpes: join the glorious open source archaelogy project of #bitcoin-assets
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: i recently got an itch to try that myself
ben_vulpes: which was the integer patch again?
ben_vulpes: what version was your "old crap"?
ben_vulpes: somehow.
ben_vulpes: putting bitcoind on pogo.
ben_vulpes: my hero!
ben_vulpes: (is it in the set of whatever whatever)
ben_vulpes: forgive my *staggering* thickness
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: is your medium-term goal to cross compile bitcoind with buildroot?
ben_vulpes: heh.
ben_vulpes: feelsbad.png
ben_vulpes: "os x"
ben_vulpes: nvm i think i'm off-thread
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: daily work beast
ben_vulpes: how did you come to rhel?
ben_vulpes: at the end of the day, man must compute
ben_vulpes: so what *is* the #b-a sanctioned os?
ben_vulpes: the version of openssl you and alf found to not wedge bitcoind?
ben_vulpes: isn't that the release date of 1.0.1g?
ben_vulpes: i don't know how to read xxd output at all
ben_vulpes: mod6: how does that dpaste indicate the system ssl?
ben_vulpes: funkenstein_: that's the spirit
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: relax - it's just an april fool's joke :P
ben_vulpes: funkenstein_ fancies hisself a laird nao?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> lived most of my life as one. << my turn to live under the gallows shadow
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> mircea_popescu: i would not waste the gentlemens' time if i did not think this were interesting. << rather.
ben_vulpes: burn the biodiesel.
ben_vulpes: put to work.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> we could readily employ thousands. << you and what budget?!
ben_vulpes: readelf was new to me as of 2 months ago
ben_vulpes: <ascii_field> (which result from my gcc NOT going behind my back and inserting stdint exactly where wanted, the way everyone else's apparently does) << i don't even know how to check which tools are lying to me
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: generally a single control intake is enough to calibrate against a given 'purchase'
ben_vulpes: what's the difference between acuitas and acuitatis?
ben_vulpes: titration story is woefully inadequate.
ben_vulpes: and this is why i don't vape.
ben_vulpes: terrist.
ben_vulpes: DRUGS
ben_vulpes: nubbins`: isn't that the stuff with which you enfrictionalize your bow?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field, nubbins`: debian 6.0.10
ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: plz to report build failures!
ben_vulpes: probably ran apt-get update and apt-get upgrade as well, 'cause i dun know any better
ben_vulpes: that's from a debian that was current ca 0.5.3...
ben_vulpes: myup.
ben_vulpes: mind you my whole env is structured around reproducing what would have been in the wild ca. the 0.5.3 release
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: gcc (Debian 4.4.5-8) 4.4.5
ben_vulpes: hold plz
ben_vulpes: that i do not recall offhand
ben_vulpes: debian 6 vm.
ben_vulpes: i built the damn thing before we shipped that tarball.
ben_vulpes: DUDE.
ben_vulpes: waaa
ben_vulpes: virgin foundation tarball?
ben_vulpes: bwat.
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: pogo or...?
ben_vulpes: in somalia
ben_vulpes: thanks again for the accounting, jurov
ben_vulpes: holy heck a whole half btc of donations this month
ben_vulpes: oh funny - assbot gets the right handle
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=1-04-2014#596446 << 'twas a scrambling last year
ben_vulpes: also didn't the log thing happen last year as well?
ben_vulpes: pete_dushenski: the 25' steel twirly slide i once clambered upon the outside of as a child has been replaced by a 5' doofy plastic thing
ben_vulpes: trinque: are you familiar with the story of ninjashogun aka robert viragh?
ben_vulpes: trinque: yup.
ben_vulpes: spamgun bothering anyone else recently?
ben_vulpes: muhammed scale ideas.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: yeah but i don't want a schmuck, and i want him to have ideas.
ben_vulpes: must be the murderous type, though.
ben_vulpes: find the charismatic dude and convince him that he's the nth coming.
ben_vulpes: just convince the band that it's god's gift to free humanity.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 100m, though?
ben_vulpes: barring of course rectowhateverwhatever
ben_vulpes: "it's gold! that the government can't take! or stop you sending!"
ben_vulpes: a bitcoin messiah'd do pretty well in the south.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i only recently encountered the "qr code in qr code" exploit family
ben_vulpes: DEA being very accustomed to "doing things their way", and the IRS wanting a rather tight grip on the bitcoin thing.
ben_vulpes: and i suspect this IRS action to be in line with (asciilifeform? decimation? mircea_popescu?)'s forcast that bitcoin will split the g-men who can from the g-men who can't
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [22:00] now consider that this man was willing to throw away the goodwill of the behemoth for simply... three times that, and tell me << keep in mind he came from the DEA, the most notoriously corrupt arm of the militarized 'anti-drug' brigade.
ben_vulpes: apropos of nothing
ben_vulpes: this is what i get for being on irc before the stimulants hit my bloodstream
ben_vulpes: berp borp
ben_vulpes: looks like i have no choice but to rubby up
ben_vulpes: weak lawgs
ben_vulpes: http://antiwar.com/blog/2015/03/18/google-disables-all-ads-on-antiwar-com/ << via spotted_marley
ben_vulpes: <fluffypony> http://spottedmarley.com/thinkabout/bitcoin-surveillance.jpg << sauce?
ben_vulpes: mats ^^
ben_vulpes: ;;ticker --market bitstamp --currency jpy
ben_vulpes: assbot: foo?
ben_vulpes: assbot: foo"
ben_vulpes: lil benkay's mind goes frothy with applications of etched channels in rocketry and turbines
ben_vulpes: "some of the work going on over at the lab has to do with microfluidic transport systems relying on capillaries - and i mean *micro* - we etch the channels in"
ben_vulpes: a gentleman by the name of mark weislogel gave me the inspiration for the idea one year in thermofluids
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu>: ... juicy ... << litho, my man, litho.
ben_vulpes sips coffee, dives into logs
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [03:30] substation transformers in usa are in severe shortage << really? source? this shit doesn't fit in a container and ship from china these days?
ben_vulpes: fuel, oxidizer etc delivered through capillary tubes
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [03:10] but because of the implicit transformation from 'item' to 'fabric' << i occasionally bat around the notion of producing microturbines with litho
ben_vulpes: different engineering goals lead one to pick different power plants.
ben_vulpes: storage (glide time) not so great.
ben_vulpes: electric kicks ass for power density
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [02:35] the problem is tho : the electric machines suck specifically for being electric << different powerplants for different regimes
ben_vulpes: hah
ben_vulpes: for the record, the gpg.conf flag that excludes versions is 'no-emit-version'
ben_vulpes: correct.
ben_vulpes: what is it with you and self flagellation with the usg scourge
ben_vulpes: how hard did you work to get through voire dire?
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: they don't let real humans actually sit.
ben_vulpes: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
ben_vulpes: it starts like this
ben_vulpes: a fucking signature.
ben_vulpes: there is only one kind of signature that can prove identity in this marvelous world where grownups use crypto.
ben_vulpes: listen up, logreaders.
ben_vulpes: "...the outdated version that both "French Maid" and FORCE (as Nob) used is more of a "signature" given the greater number of versions available."
ben_vulpes: "they also both used the same outdated version of that software 1.4.12"
ben_vulpes: look at them flail, trying to apply their old tactics of identity discovery to the new world.
ben_vulpes: "additional pieces of circumstantial evidence prove that FORCE is "French Maid." Both "French Maid" and Force (operating as "Nob") used the exact same brand of PGP software,a feww brand called GnuPG. There are different brands of PGP software, so it is noteworthy that both FORCE (operating as "Nob") and "French Maid" used the same brand."
ben_vulpes: mats: der, but for himself, force, dpr?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: cv?
ben_vulpes: it boggles the mind that Force got DPR using gpg.
ben_vulpes: yeah, this is just the guy who got *busted* for operating SR.
ben_vulpes: "i was afraid of offending if I sent too little and looking foolish if i sent too much."
ben_vulpes: ascii_field: the crime was not giving the privkeys to the bossman, if i read correctly
ben_vulpes: noice
ben_vulpes: > froze a coinmkt account and transferred it to himself
ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: heh right?
ben_vulpes: 10.6 << golden era