mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that it's doing exactly that, and in point of fact for a reason very similar to your thinking, nevertheless it has obviously no prayer in hell of working. it's not even wrong, it;s unrelated.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:24:44; trinque: prohibition drives the price through the roof, which allows the whole thing to sustain itself.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338078 << this is a very naive view of price formation. if mere prohibition worked all the usg'd have to do to save the dollar would be to forbid people from owning it.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:24:42; ascii_field: the little trick is that when you're throwing away people, it helps to make sure that all or most of them actually are garbage
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:22:23; nubbins`: "but won't kids born to addict parents be fucked from the start and stay that way their whole lives?" yep
trinque: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-12-2015#1337522 << I've pulled the whole set again (including Nov), bundle out shortly.
pete_dushenski: i blame the lack of nubbins` !
pete_dushenski: aaaand nov 20 was the last time we cracked 1000 lines in a day.
pete_dushenski: i've actually been out of practice since fatherhood started, was doing a lunch-time session once a week aimed specifically at office/computer jockeys
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: http://www.yogajournal.com/category/beginners/how-to/office-yoga/ looks like a good start
trinque: ^ along these lines, a standing desk also helps quite a bit.
thestringpuller: "ethereum investors" now reads as M$ to me. since my boss just showed me a beta to use eth on Azure...which makes no sense.
mircea_popescu: of course, they exist about in the numbers "ethereum investors" exist, which is to say purely in the feverish imagination of various "hacker" derps
thestringpuller: hence why it never really worked in the first place.
thestringpuller: (since before it didn't write nlock tx's to blockchain. they would just sit in mempool)
thestringpuller: it never really did. the point of nlock was to hand a transaction over to someone in a "will" like form
mircea_popescu: translates to "and the dumb shit doesn't even work anyway"
mircea_popescu: "Implication for users: GetMedianTimePast() always trails behind the current time, so a transaction locktime set to the present time will be rejected by nodes running this release until the median time moves forward. To compensate, subtract one hour (3,600 seconds) from your locktimes to allow those transactions to be included in mempools at approximately the expected time."
mircea_popescu: "Note, however, that time-based locktime transactions are more or less unseen on the network currently." is the point of interest. currently, and permanently, nobody gives a shit about the entire bondogle eithger way.
thestringpuller: apparently if client doesn't implement softfork miners can slip in invalid tx's that the client won't recognize...
assbot: The Bitlove LLC spin on their recent implosion, as presented to their captive audience. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/21KuOVi )
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://trilema.com/2015/the-bitlove-llc-spin-on-their-recent-implosion-as-presented-to-their-captive-audience/#comment-115997
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: could've also answered, "i could easily shoot you in the stomach, wanna play chicken ?"
thestringpuller: I got pulled over going like 60, and the cop was like "I don't want to have to peel you off that guard rail"
pete_dushenski: but hey, if you can't actually afford the cars (a la dubai), how else ?
pete_dushenski: iirc there was a newer corvette (c6?) that suffered a similar fate recently.
thestringpuller: and so the cops now have a GTR police car...
assbot: The fruits of a classical education. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/21KtqlH )
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: i had excellent experiences with airbnb 2.5 years ago in croatia. seems like it's gone to pot since then.
ascii_field: tell it to the|rapist
pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: or investors read and still figures "hey, there's bigger chumps out there than me! i won't be the last one standing when the music stops! not this guy!"
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: (do you have a crash dump or the like ?)
pete_dushenski recently tried using airbnb to look for apartments in cologne, germany, not only didn't find, but computer KERNEL PANICED just by using their cutting-edge website. fucking. twice.
thestringpuller: How the fuck.
assbot: IBM Asks Women In Tech To Hack Hair Dryers, Women Tweet Back To Tell IBM It’s Not The 1950s | TechCrunch ... ( http://bit.ly/1SK0KTy )
kakobrekla: http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/07/ibm-asks-women-in-tech-to-hack-the-hair-dryer-women-tweet-back-to-let-ibm-know-its-not-the-1950s/
pete_dushenski: definitely not as many windfalls in eastern canada as western canada, which is why obviously why some of our ancestors put up with the nightmarish cold and long winter nights :)
nubbins`: and i don't think there were many flukes or windfalls this far east
nubbins`: lotta keefes in the ground out west
nubbins`: my great-grandparents floated over on the Empress of Ireland and lived in a canvas tent in Banff for 5 years
pete_dushenski: show me the "boomer echo" kid whose great-grandparents actually owned something and i'll show you a kid who's doing well for himself today.
pete_dushenski: "boomer" parents fluked into a historical windfall ~themselves~, like y'know, actual lottery winners. that their kids didn't manage to hold onto a dime of it is par for the course.
nubbins`: dude i'm 33, the parents are still living
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:55; nubbins`: mircea_popescu lol my entire generation was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. and they're all fuckups
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338224 << the parents never owned anything. if you didn't pass it down, what the fuck did you do with it ? blow and hookerz ?
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 18:07:06; nubbins`: unremarkable in the sense that any asshole can get a windfall
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1338217 << in a sense, yes, those with sane and productive parents are indeed 'lottery winners', the key difference being that, unlike 6/49 winners, the 'lucky' kids have skills and blood-related mentors !!1
pete_dushenski: mkay. so maybe in halifax, the banks are the warm huggy people who care and the local slumlords and the jerkoffs. what do i know.
nubbins`: or their tenants
nubbins`: most landlords spend all their money at big box stores
nubbins`: on the whole, i disagree
pete_dushenski: that landlords, like yourself, like myself, give a shit about the places they live MORE than the banks from far-off lands.
nubbins`: but i'm not building community spaces out of my profit either
nubbins`: besides, how's the landlord buying a new snowblower at Wal-Mart helping the local anything?
nubbins`: landlords don't give a red fuck about their towns
pete_dushenski: ok, let's work the with 'maybe house will never again be worth 200k' condition. why not give 12k to landlord instead of bank ? will landlord not put that money to more practicable and local use, having a higher probability of bettering renter's station ?
nubbins`: put another way, let's say you rent for a year. at the end of the year, what do you have to show for it?
nubbins`: if you'd rather work less as time goes on, well, maybe buy?
nubbins`: whether that's paying off a too-high mortgage or paying off someone ELSE'S too-high mortgage is his choice
nubbins`: pete_dushenski maybe, maybe not. either way, he's gonna spend $12k/year on living space
nubbins`: i actually received a new property assessment in the mail last week
nubbins`: so the mortgage goes up $50/mo. big whoop.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: i feel sorry for the idjits paying down 200k mortgage for house that will only ever be worth 100k. why not light money on fire ? stay warm, enjoy the show ?
mircea_popescu: kinda the whole point of property being that solvent owners really don't give a shit what other parties think things be "worth".
nubbins`: tbf it's not a lesson unless they wanna sell
pete_dushenski: and teach one to their kids
pete_dushenski: fuck you and your stupid mother.
nubbins`: yes, or rent in the first place
pete_dushenski: or RENT IN THE FIRST PLACE
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 17:49:06; nubbins`: pete_dushenski all the people whose houses are suddenly worth less than the outstanding mortgages would tend to disagree that "all will be well"
mircea_popescu: "put more grain in there"
mircea_popescu: "it's weird, the wevils eat our grain i na week"
mircea_popescu: it's theft dude.
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: lol but voters can't handle the truth !
mircea_popescu: i dunno, the last ice age didn't go over budget.
pete_dushenski: pretty sure 95%+ of such projects have these same issues
pete_dushenski: well, again, tbf, it's entirely in the nature of mega-projects to go over-budget and past 'expected' timeline for completion
nubbins`: and then to american markets and beyond
nubbins`: down thru NL and over the water to NS
nubbins`: across the fucking long-range fucking mountains
nubbins`: pete_dushenski prudence woulda been putting the grease money into something else before it was too late
pete_dushenski: not sure why, but all the syrians who come to canada stay in big cities and stay the fuck away from fort mcmurray
nubbins`: we sorta put all our eggs in the oil basket
mircea_popescu: eulora has this very pronounced old style adventure quality to it, for the first few hours/days/weeks/we it takews you.
mircea_popescu: didja go to the slutwalk ?
thestringpuller: and the sky box
nubbins`: the glow burns me ;/
mircea_popescu: some intuition of the whole thing doth exist.
mircea_popescu: so what's the trouble with that ?
nubbins`: (they still fail but at least know why)
nubbins`: until they come across my posts
nubbins`: tons of noobs out there failing at screenprinting
mircea_popescu is a little wary of this theory. zuckerberg thinks he owns facebook.
mircea_popescu: this is exactly why the wot exists - to disinhabituate socialists from stealing from the people and giving to "the institution" so that lenin, stalin or whatever other nigger can then steal it.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu it's a schelling point, couldn't have found the actual people were it not for the venue
mircea_popescu: i guess if the sluts were good i'd credit the school more than the individual sluts in question... maybe.
thestringpuller: I have found a correlation to alumni dedication and how "out of control" the partying is at said alma matar.
thestringpuller: Cuz football. Or I guess that's just the party schools.
mircea_popescu has ~0 anything for "the school", remembers some teachers.
mircea_popescu: why not feel deeply indebted to the actual people that taught you ?
nubbins` gives back to the commyoonity
nubbins`: gigposters has "premium membership" ($20/yr) and people get turbo shit-on if they ask too many questions w/o coughing up some funds
mircea_popescu: the plague starts once bitcoin/experts sexchange/seo/mommy/ what have you default activities of those who really should have been shot in their teen years.
nubbins`: the mirror is for checking.
mircea_popescu: do you have any pics of the chisels you used ?
mircea_popescu: were these made by hand ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, yes, they're well printed.
nubbins`: post #19 if you don't feel like waiting for the jump
mircea_popescu: actually The Story of Nubbins the Industrious would make a pretty decent book title.
mircea_popescu doesn't recall the last time he actually saw a competent draughstman / painter / anything.
mircea_popescu: nubbins` are you gonna get butthurt if i tell you the thing sucked ?
mircea_popescu: the interdweebs can be a harsh mistress!
mircea_popescu: and where's all the cum ?!
mircea_popescu: in fairness, if i were a woman, and worked my ass off for kink.com throughout my teen years, and then retired to... start my own perfume line,
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: whole thing was 'generous'. twas the point ;/
pete_dushenski leaves for few minutes, only to discover that his dad is dead and bequeathed him some paper, that's he's mp-but-no-mp, that he didn't retire from health inspection, and that he's on welfare because not 'in tech'.
nubbins`: now suppose instead of mining dung beetles, you're waiting for a tenant to say the radiator's busted in your dad's building
nubbins`: if you're on a computer all day long and you don't /work/ at a computer all day long, chances are you're coasting. either on your own funds or someone else's
mircea_popescu: ascii_field ironically, the "tech and all else is state supported" shithole mostly would be the bay area.
nubbins`: depends on the parser?
mircea_popescu: check it out, nubbins` schematic thought naufraged once more on the circuitous beaches of irl.
mircea_popescu: tech, finance, governance, hey, do you count the usg plants as self-supported or state-supported ?
nubbins`: if you don't work in tech, odds are you're one of the former
nubbins`: consider that there are people active in here on a daily basis who are 100% supported by the state, and others who are 100% self-supporting
mircea_popescu: tho some people push the bum envelope pretty hard.
nubbins`: there's a set of lifestyles that allow one to dick around on irc all day
nubbins`: don't look a gift painting in the brush
nubbins`: this can be accomplished by either speeding up OR slowing down
nubbins`: mircea_popescu lol my entire generation was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. and they're all fuckups
trinque: this is a poor person's notion of the wealthy.
mircea_popescu: all things equal i'd rather deal with someone who comes from sane parents.
nubbins`: "pete's so amazing, his dad bequeathed him a suitcase of bills"
mircea_popescu: "this guy was spawned by people together enough to actually own something. unlike everyone on the internet, who is here mostly because their mother thought being ugly is enough excuse to fuck drunks.
nubbins`: unremarkable in the sense that any asshole can get a windfall
mircea_popescu: today, it's fucking remarkable. means about the same as a dog's pedigree
nubbins`: trinque nothing remarkable either
assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 19:07:55; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...
whaack: !rate funkenstein_ 2 met in the flesh, has a great blogpost "on chumponomics"
ascii_field: like jupiter but without the mass !
nubbins`: and i guess the btc wealth
whaack: !rate funkenstein_: 2 met in the flesh, has a great blogpost "on chumponomics"
nubbins`: he's like a mini-mp, but without the circuitous argument skills
nubbins`: actually pretty much anything pete says falls under the category of trite, too
mircea_popescu: it's how i ran my town the only time i ever ran a town, and it's how i intend to run any town i ever run.
mircea_popescu: i happen to agree : if you happen to be poor and happen to be loud, being shot is the correct policy.
nubbins`: could keep going but shrug, you get the idea
nubbins`: "use it to offset the insanely high cost of goods"
nubbins`: like, "you live north of 60, here is your nothern allowance"
nubbins`: as opposed to southern canada :D
nubbins`: gov literally pays you to live up there
nubbins`: move up north for yr last 5 years in the workforce
mircea_popescu: way the fuck better than going to florida.
nubbins`: i personally would not fare well above the treeline
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-12-2015#1337965 << if you're looking for something, manning expeditions to the north pole is more your alley.
nubbins`: don't let me get in the way of your over-9000 triteness
nubbins`: pete_dushenski all the people whose houses are suddenly worth less than the outstanding mortgages would tend to disagree that "all will be well"
mircea_popescu: that's what they did back home, anyway.
assbot: Logged on 07-12-2015 16:58:29; pete_dushenski: why a quarter-mn to some 23 yo newfie punk ? BECAUSE THE JOB SUCKS. and literally no one would do it for less
pete_dushenski: nubbins`: anyways, once the residual albertabux dry up, newfoundland will go back to being a 'service economy' or whatever it's been since the cod packed up and left. your housing prices will return to the incredibly affordable 'normal' you were used to, and all will be well again until the next time a canadian province has a resource boom and your industrious young men provide the necessary cannon fodder.
pete_dushenski: "There's about €3bn of London Club debt "trading" at 15 cents of par last time I checked. If you find Argentine bonds just not exotic enough" << everyone's an investor eh. p2p lending is da footoor !
nubbins`: it's not like all the black market soft drug money goes directly to hell's angels and vietnamese gangs, oh wait
nubbins`: seriously, there was a big bust here recently, i calculated that the cops paid something like $4 a gram for the weed they seized.
ascii_field: don't worry, weed-legalization will free up their hands to bust bitcoin aficionados
nubbins`: now on top of that, you have the idiot cops running around
trinque: apply that to the harder stuff; profits subside and those pushing the dope go on to better things
trinque: weed prices for example in legalized states are falling all the time
pete_dushenski: http://www.bsomusic.org/media/728173/main-2015-2016-infographic_1150w.jpg << "Women composers make up less than 2% of all of the music performed." damn those americans are racialist.
trinque: aside massive govt distortions of the market, stupid tends to die.
ascii_field: otherwise you get a lenin eventually and get fucked.
trinque: prohibition drives the price through the roof, which allows the whole thing to sustain itself.
ascii_field: the little trick is that when you're throwing away people, it helps to make sure that all or most of them actually are garbage
nubbins`: also, equating "drug addict" with "bum" is an exceptionally rudimentary understanding of the world
trinque: if there were no drug prohibition how would that economic process you described work, exactly?
nubbins`: i guess there aren't any
trinque looks out the window
ascii_field: !s in the sewers
nubbins`: you do live among them, ya fuckin dumbass.
nubbins`: so the "LALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" approach?
trinque: aside drug prohibition what are they going to do to make enough money to matter?
nubbins`: "but won't kids born to addict parents be fucked from the start and stay that way their whole lives?" yep
trinque: the question of what happens to these people only matters under economic and social circumstances which are advantageous to them.
nubbins`: "but doesn't that encourage the destitute addicts to start queefing out kids?" yes it does.
nubbins`: i didn't say free therapy
trinque: nubbins` │ the smarter ones say "i can't get out of this on my own, i need help" << >> nubbins` │ sure there is, it's called therapy
ascii_field: nubbins`: in 'dole countries', the thing is barely enough for scum-life. satan help you if you've tasted human living
nubbins`: but that was before all the cash-heavy oil workers came home & drove property values through the roof
trinque: I understand that they do here
nubbins`: if you want the government to help you, better not hold yr breath
ascii_field: 'civil society' is just what remains after you fill the gulags
trinque: nubbins` is assuming a big, cozy socialist state to take care of them
nubbins`: there y'go, that's much less trite
nubbins`: they just switch to prescription drugs.
nubbins`: in reality, the addicts who can't find/afford coke don't just stop using
ascii_field: or 10,001 other things.
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: i think you're right, which really makes you wonder about the 'addictiveness' of coke
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: afaik cocaine aficionados don't suffer from withdrawal in the usual sense
ascii_field: just as a small hole in your chest is a hole, whether made by bullet or meteorite
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: for the purpose of this thought, any particular thing you've grown to like but suddenly cannot afford, is 'addiction'
ascii_field: though i hear mircea_popescu has a broomstick therapy
ascii_field: and sometimes they find that there is no 'addiction clinic' for breaking addiction to space, clean air, hygiene, and cheese
nubbins`: the smarter ones say "i can't get out of this on my own, i need help"
nubbins`: then your city is suddenly full of broke addicts