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ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.nanotube.1:6b3acdaf3c87b906a7e2fbc5257d477ab2d19c4aed01c2de68966135d2ed16a4
ben_vulpes: !rate nanotube 1 runs the #bitcoin-otc web of trust.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.assbot.10:20c9ead67ad3968ad9f9617e9359eb428b89d50bdeb9a5a0a6a3aeb848f0d9eb
ben_vulpes: !rate assbot 10
ben_vulpes: !rate davout -4 unrepentant rubbyist
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.davout.3:9ae5a5d63d4ee8a9954c91adf9e9f6e98def6da82fcacb235151890e35d96d98
ben_vulpes: !rate davout 3 you wouldn't believe how this man makes the girlies eyes twinkle.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.mod6.4:137b83f998c89a7d7dcb1996a7d74390b3bff1f046f68382de16ea804db07274
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: try it and see!
ben_vulpes: !rate mod6 4 foundation co-chair.
ben_vulpes: !rate mod6 foundation co-chair.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.josh_rossi:ba64844f870c914d60ce6482f2a844d69719676ccbd97077a0d3bd9270733b07
ben_vulpes: !unrate josh_rossi
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.hanbot.2:13c1fddf38e98958768f1e956448e6bc27e85e58e3320ef7efcf8c584d43ce68
ben_vulpes: !rate hanbot 2 saw this legendary valkyrie in battle mode one time.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.mats.1:5a41ff385c95c2cb42f4fb651b5945cbd0f218cf383a79b0d379bf915ff8d763
ben_vulpes: !rate mats 1 skeptic, sapper.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.mats_cd03:694d8202dde00120747c28cdc08fa3217fdf0c55bd331a07dc9ad8cae66011a6
ben_vulpes: !unrate mats_cd03
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.mthreat.2:e66c706e882d87e12793c048fd02435a335f4ea29f5ac893806eafe42c80be93
ben_vulpes: !rate mthreat 2 shared a cab with this pleasant chap one time.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.rainman28:fb26fe46f1000f0fb04de29ceeee404f2769ffc32b41f35d3995f0431924305e
ben_vulpes: !unrate rainman28
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.hodlr:45fe0b89d2b81cd1e9ef17977e7b9c27a1297f572d4ed8ed5500f9384cd11163
ben_vulpes: !unrate hodlr
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.xanthyos:063771f705eb0f8c74a35a3ed06912c88db82549b6ad1aeedac4b1d224b64d6a
ben_vulpes is not operating in threaded mode today
ben_vulpes: !unrate xanthyos
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.pinkposixpxe.1:f400fb6bdf67f7973cae3630895bba2bc99a7f3ccbf8b150aa1564505eb9d1b7
ben_vulpes: !rate pinkposixpxe 1 lent a hand with some bash.
ben_vulpes: ah christ will it never end
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.unrate.brendafdez:9f0adfbf033abc63d678e93287e52fee75e6f2b82cfb1e07ff2c5acb223c73b9
ben_vulpes: !unrate brendafdez
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.moiety.1:6a9e687df673d07fadd743f854a42c8afc189598fb7912745abd2636d041a98a
ben_vulpes: !rate moiety 1 rip
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.asciilifeform.4:e03acfdc57029b6f7dabccc6af536737c2811b66f4a68e15ef2ffc589b94d72c
ben_vulpes: !rate asciilifeform 4 inventor, dreamer, builder, axe-man.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.phf.1:fb393218870b21a4a538f2373afcb710a6c76d81e2dd4c73fe2df98ada1a357c
ben_vulpes: !rate phf 1 lisper.
ben_vulpes: derps with derps alike.
ben_vulpes: got sucked back into academia.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.princessnell.1:ac067a68fa38b40733dfc1ef7abc81ce3ea936d5b0f6c18156e16f2a28119ee6
ben_vulpes: !rate princessnell 1 coulda been a contender.
ben_vulpes: ! rate princessnell 1 coulda been a contender.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.mike_c.3:a39f5723975f6239012276bce139acd24cdf5da37e75deba10545b1003c7face
ben_vulpes: !rate mike_c 3 kindred derper in fiat.
ben_vulpes: ! rate mike_c 3 kindred derper in fiat.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.kakobrekla.4:8d675ddc8f1c215a54e7a752b2e5bcb8ef714d53252b17926eaa7ca6c9de5a3b
ben_vulpes: !rate kakobrekla 4 steward of la srenissima.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.kakobrekla.4:29b873003beb1f212de3c8e9e6efbec2208c75c4ec5c5a5b558f4ad1d931a7b9
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ty, i'll have words with the copyeditor
ben_vulpes: !rate kakobrekla 4 steward of la serenissima.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.ssateneth.2:b996c934d87c4faa5b123390f7514bc646e6960ff27eabce91f7b18292956cc9
ben_vulpes: !rate ssateneth 2 trade.
ben_vulpes: !rate ssataneth 2 trade.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.mircea_popescu.4:4430379a4deb2448d272a058f445c0cc787a4d884020bbd276a4591a3c93c58b
ben_vulpes: !rate mircea_popescu 4 throws a hell of a party.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.xmj.1:933aeac159af0249f00d4834cb27124d38e3e15066da9934a8c85507fe45ba23
ben_vulpes: !rate xmj 1 wordprexen, django, sysadminnery.
ben_vulpes: !r xmj 1 wordprexen, django, sysadminnery.
ben_vulpes: !v assbot:ben_vulpes.rate.jurov.3:57329d33c4fc57e0aac47da8b31e04d3f729abd0f5af3606aad543713a3f1e76
ben_vulpes: !rate jurov 3 several collaborations, never a hitch.
ben_vulpes nopes out
ben_vulpes: lol and there's a guy going by goat in the trollbox
ben_vulpes: bitmex is offering their own margin
ben_vulpes: cumSize << lol
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: i'd ask if you've put any money down on 'em, but i think i already know the answer to that
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: moreover, if you'd not trust a bitcent on them, they're not really 'actual'. finance runs on trust. no trust, not finance.
ben_vulpes: trinque: best rockets are self-cooling
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: well, link?
ben_vulpes: trinque: burning too hot, buddhi
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: like a) how would we know if volume is what they say it is (who the fuck is operating them anyways), and b) is it oom comparable to mpoe?
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: any actual volume on 'em?
ben_vulpes: there's a bitcoin stock
ben_vulpes: there's a bitcoin literature
ben_vulpes: (at least this year...)
ben_vulpes: man, there *is* no bitcoin finance.
ben_vulpes: indeed.
ben_vulpes: there we go.
ben_vulpes: roofs
ben_vulpes: rooves*
ben_vulpes: and he's deeply bezzlefied, so he can probably convince tptb to let him self insure the bombs too!
ben_vulpes: well, not just the panels but the roofes on which they're installed.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: he's also self-insuring his solar panels.
ben_vulpes: thanks williamdunne!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: musk's got a good handle on the battery safety thing. d'you recall the trumpeting over how his cell design nukes cascading failures when the Boeing batteries caught on fire midair?
ben_vulpes: i'm actually writing one now
ben_vulpes: thanks :)
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: try as atom
ben_vulpes: it's like a cabinet
ben_vulpes: hand curated internets
ben_vulpes: this was a conscious decision at one point
ben_vulpes: oh yeah, without the dubbas
ben_vulpes: looool wtf
ben_vulpes: also, does http://www.cascadianhacker.com/index.xml work for the new scoopbot?
ben_vulpes: oh you
ben_vulpes: what's wrong with alaska?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: naw, united and alaska
ben_vulpes: how did that song go?
ben_vulpes: home sweet home sheets
ben_vulpes: davout: aren't txids canonical after block inclusion?
ben_vulpes: davout: my hero!
ben_vulpes: (outletpair, actually, and the unused one.)
ben_vulpes: (i was just thanked by someone who plugged into the same outlet as me. wtf.)
ben_vulpes: write a standalone wallet while yer at it :P
ben_vulpes: mhm, i see it.
ben_vulpes: davout: a change to block inclusion rules?
ben_vulpes: none of this half-assed "dear state or magic maths please save me from my own derpitude"
ben_vulpes: either trust your counterparties and deal with them, or don't and don't.
ben_vulpes: you're just going to hurt your head
ben_vulpes: ya well stop trying to impose derpy fiat notions on bitcoin
ben_vulpes: (subject of, davout how goes the testnet excision? my digs show less than 50 mentions throughout the whole codebase)
ben_vulpes: (entirely aside, in a fevered moment of sleeplessness on the plane from bsas i looked into ripping out the nonstandard transaction relay blocking stuff)
ben_vulpes: how could there be? it is of necessity a meatwot thing.
ben_vulpes: i was always under the impression that there was no single hawala network.
ben_vulpes: ah no hawala
ben_vulpes: i thought i was using it correctly
ben_vulpes: jurov: come again?
ben_vulpes: you can push single satoshis around on mpex
ben_vulpes: Adlai: dood mpex is bitcoin halawa
ben_vulpes: the halawa of cartels.
ben_vulpes: no no, not the halawa for the muslim at the mosque
ben_vulpes: Adlai: hm?
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: stop thinking swift, start thinking halawa
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: the people i want using bitcoin take one look at the source and run screaming, as they should
ben_vulpes: fuck off and DIE
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> But does seem like the block-size will need to increase at some stage(s) if we're to continue growth << dude again with this growth bugaboo
ben_vulpes: lol well we nuked it
ben_vulpes is entirely out of his depth
ben_vulpes: c-c-c-combo breaker!
ben_vulpes: ratestorm
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [04:33] http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-04-2015#1108862 << l0l, where ? la poesia
ben_vulpes: adios buenos aires!
ben_vulpes: but commmenttttssssss!
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i found a bronies store in bsas. was completely baffled.
ben_vulpes: YOUR FEEDBACK IS AS ALWAYS INVALULOL
ben_vulpes: THANKS MIKE_C
ben_vulpes: isn't it always...
ben_vulpes wonders how this rss bot is built such that it can't be tested
ben_vulpes: <williamdunne> Can't test /me raises an eyebrow
ben_vulpes: don't think, test :P
ben_vulpes: friend of ascii*?
ben_vulpes: who're you, diatonic?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i have the top floor of la poesia entirely to myself
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: let us not neglect the headache of coordinating a blocksize change
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> every large enough operation has this set of accounts that are below water - cost more to service than they're worth. which is why fiat banks are charging per account << myeah i got some of these
ben_vulpes: touchy tatiana, you
ben_vulpes: sheesh
ben_vulpes: not you, trinque
ben_vulpes: such progress.
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the hard cap of 21M of the thing enough for you?
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: is not the inability to interdict funds enough for you?
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: these i suppose are the muppets you're looking for.
ben_vulpes: "oh gosh so we can all be richer in the fyooooture instead of working today" sort of nonsense
ben_vulpes: usd denominated value of bitcoins /literally does not matter/
ben_vulpes: and what is this "growth" thing you keep banging on about?
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: alternatively, the big blocks version will be populated with retards.
ben_vulpes: the thing about bitcoins is that it a system that conserves, and resists diddling in the vein of fiat economies.
ben_vulpes: so no technical fears then?
ben_vulpes: especially if you're even sort of supporting this blocksize change derpage.
ben_vulpes: trinque: you gotta have a hypothesis about what's going to happen, man.
ben_vulpes: 21me8 then, williamdunne.
ben_vulpes: i'm saying that "right" doesn't matter.
ben_vulpes: what's the worst case scenario of hitting that ceiling?
ben_vulpes: it's as magic as 21M.
ben_vulpes: appropriate shmappropriate.
ben_vulpes: i guess they're all bitcoin or something retarded like that
ben_vulpes: what then distinguishes bitcoin from XXXcoin?
ben_vulpes: so if you change the block size, you get deuterium.
ben_vulpes: is that still a tautology?
ben_vulpes: nitrogen is nitrogen because of the arrangement of electrons in valence shells.
ben_vulpes: also what is this "to grow" nonsense.
ben_vulpes: if a thing exists with a block size that is not one megabyte, /that thing is not bitcoin/.
ben_vulpes: williamdunne: you're missing the point.
ben_vulpes: usg can break it like they broke gpg, but that broken thing will not and cannot be bitcoin
ben_vulpes: bitcoin is
ben_vulpes: man it doesn't matter what's needed or wanted or anything
ben_vulpes: just axin
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: ever figure varnish out?
ben_vulpes: i think my lulzmuscles are exhausted from con
ben_vulpes: imma rewrite it in ruby on rails this wknd
ben_vulpes: !s the post is the feed
ben_vulpes: !s the site is the feed
ben_vulpes: inclusion is for teh masses!
ben_vulpes: ha yeah that's right fu rss
ben_vulpes: also probably guilty
ben_vulpes: bitching!
ben_vulpes: crumbs?
ben_vulpes: ;;ud crumbs
ben_vulpes: d'you know - i saw "respond via what's app" on some ad while en el sur?
ben_vulpes: probably the last users
ben_vulpes goes for smokes alone
ben_vulpes: postgrest ++
ben_vulpes: http://zerolength.com/ << heh although this is a pretty good blog title
ben_vulpes: https://github.com/redline6561/coleslaw << trinque i think might actually use hutchentoot
ben_vulpes: "roughly 3000 BTC" << ascii_* now that's a rocket
ben_vulpes: lobbes: "and omitting to state material facts." << something trips my native engrish filter in this
ben_vulpes: <Adlai> [01:40] nah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEZC0ZJ1AW8 << scam, was expecting physics
ben_vulpes: did briefly look into providing "how likely is this addr to doublespend" as a service
ben_vulpes: <trinque> [01:26] might not end up being bitcoin itself << of necessity must be something else
ben_vulpes: HARUMPH
ben_vulpes: !gettrust liquidassets
ben_vulpes: <liquidassets> [01:09] when you see it... << heh i missed it
ben_vulpes: (you don't need that apostrophe, fyi)
ben_vulpes: joeblo: "deb up to an API" << wat
ben_vulpes: stocks, meh.
ben_vulpes: options, sure.
ben_vulpes: for the very simple reason that complex financial instruments are rarely fungible.
ben_vulpes: look at mpex, each contract is different
ben_vulpes: there is no standard, joeblo
ben_vulpes: nice suites btw!
ben_vulpes: all of a sudden there is life in the thing
ben_vulpes: i suspect that mircea_popescu booked out all of hotel redacto for con3
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "are self-funded and self-motivated" << the actual footnote you want here is the reference to the deficits that serenissima runs
ben_vulpes: like i said, above my pay grade
ben_vulpes: just trollin u boss
ben_vulpes: it's the latest and greatest in php performance tekmology!
ben_vulpes: have you tried hiphop vm?
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> i dun think you laymen understand running php under load is like << ftfy
ben_vulpes: above my pay grade boss
ben_vulpes: and still need varnish?!
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i only actually use nginx.
ben_vulpes: <pete_dushenski> "beating heart of the source code" << more like well-armed guardians of the blood in the fly in the amber
ben_vulpes: look, pete, if the lord had intended capitalization, he'd have capitalized whatever himself.
ben_vulpes: blech and with the capitalizing of my carefully uncapitalized lines
ben_vulpes: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/22/parenting-is-going-to-be-hard/ "whose company we enjoy" << dude you're barely ever here what "we"?
ben_vulpes: * ascii_launchpad [00:04] just walked by a 'women in tech' poster << in the airport?!
ben_vulpes: bwaha
ben_vulpes: drink too much
ben_vulpes: beat yer kids
ben_vulpes: cry at night
ben_vulpes: give up
ben_vulpes: look do what the 'professionals' do
ben_vulpes: discovering the deep bitrot
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