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adlai rushes to the trademark press
mircea_popescu: the history folder, and because they're too old now.
adlai: mircea_popescu: where do you dredge up all this... and how come these sluts don't get to earn their bitcents too?
adlai keeps poring over their arithmancy documentation
adlai: in relevant news, if STRML or anybody else from bitMEX ever shows up, i'd love to eat their fee discounts on managing DPE risk
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2015 14:40:00; asciilifeform: ('wizards' is where they spend all day thinking of what shit-to-bolt-on-the-side-of-the-kalash)
adlai: that'll be the "shut up and buy" signal, i guess
adlai: next up they'll be telling you when and where to short mpex
adlai: "More investors are taking it seriously and using it as a portfolio diversifier" go on, elaborate how billionaires hedge their penny stock exposure with hard currency
adlai: nah let them riff a little, it's their role in nature's "greedy algorithm" bullshit detector
mircea_popescu: these idiots are all ready to fuck things over. "oh, it went up, buy buy buy!11"
mircea_popescu prepares the 2016 version of the "stop buying" article.
adlai: alas for i can't stuff the worst ones back into my tendons
adlai: mircea_popescu: i really wish red tape will kill all the stupid ideas dreamt up tonight
adlai: crowdsourcing 'peer' review from hacker news, and they don't even pay shares by the wordcount!
mircea_popescu: anyway, the diocletian edict is a fine example. the problem isn't even economic there, it's purely political. "oh, we have a problem we don't know how to solve, here's some red tape" "tell you what - it's not worth the risk of dealing with your red tape AT ALL. see ya". "oh noes! who could have predicted!"
adlai has heard back from the latest incarnation of the Bcc funnel, this one with a request to cheatsheet https://chatsecure.org/blog/using-ed25519-public-keys-as-identifiers/ for the interview << more in the 'reinventing wot' dept
adlai: i hear you get least-positive-bignum points on the SAT for this
BingoBoingo: Test all the children: "While the old ISAT test often saw as many as 95 percent of students meeting or exceeding standards, the highest-scoring school in St. Clair, Madison, Monroe or Clinton counties was Damiansville Elementary in Clinton County, with a proficiency score of 69.2 percent, and the lowest-performing school was Lovejoy Elementary in Brooklyn with a proficiency rate of zero."
adlai: if androids dream of dead ghosts masturbating, but no Tulip cluster simulate their moans, does that still constitute spectrofilia?
adlai: seems to have stolen a leaf from the book of ,,seen herbijudlestoids
adlai: forget the businessman, clergy don't hold a candle to the nigerians
assbot: [1011.0423] A note comprising a negative resolution of the Efficient Market Hypothesis ... ( http://bit.ly/1NM4jZH )
adlai: further on the "look what doesn't seem to have made logs yet" topic, the plaintext wripped from http://arxiv.org/abs/1011.0423 : http://dpaste.com/3F4D2G2.txt
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 06:01:33; adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not"
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=12-12-2015#1341822 << lmao the philipino dept hard at work. no, the day isn't approaching, quickly or otherwise.
mircea_popescu: got anything at the actual topic ?
mircea_popescu: this is like saying "the pornstar is brunette and tall." mkay ?
mircea_popescu: "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."' << so ?
mircea_popescu: specifically to get your two years interdiction, usg needs to control 99.999% of the network, and admitting half an exahash was legit that requires they get a further 50 or so yotahashes. and that nobody else does anything.
mircea_popescu: to obtain similar performance to wires in this respect [delay only, not in all the others, you still get bitcoin, rather than usg-fiat moved around] you need a 0.2%ish of the network.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform specifically : to guarantee your transactions are on average included the same day, you need control over ~0.5% of the network.
mircea_popescu: as some derpy woman said, "congrats to the winners [which is everyone]"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo basically the french version of the redditard decided that right wing females appreciate macho men. further decided that all men are the same, and that includes him. further decided that hey, if they queue up to kneel for mp, why not for him. figured out that this is ridiculous, so instead of doing it wrote about it. everyone [that never does anything] got all excited about it, then realised it's meaningles
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 04:30:25; asciilifeform: 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.'
BingoBoingo: I gathered that French libertard liek rape more than MP. Seriously that brown people should rape all the FN women business is what Obama has to be thinking.
mircea_popescu: hahaha. what did you gather from the violation ?
BingoBoingo: I violenced the text until it gave up its salient points.
adlai: bleh. one for the picture gallery: https://archive.is/Km6Xy
adlai: pls winkledinks give me my time-btc back, i wish i'd dumped them at the parabolic fulcrum
adlai: "The day is quickly approaching where even if someone were to sign a message using Satoshi's known coin hoard addresses, we should think twice about whether this person actually is Satoshi or not"
assbot: Satoshi's unmoved coins are the world's biggest prize in quantum-decryption, the canary in bitcoin's quantum coalmine : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1On9trc )
adlai: !up 4886 https://youtu.be/BDxjXWQ8oro (spoilers! he dies at the end)
adlai: 'worthless' even if correctly produced, for the intentionally obtuse in the lurker gallery
adlai: some guy bought them off me once for a pittance by today's rates >_>
adlai invites agents of all horsemen, not just USG, to make such proof worthless; not because he's too lazy to make it worthwhile himself, but because he just wants two coins to rub together
adlai: so that they would be fabulously wealthy when they were returned to Earth.' - more from kenny v
adlai: 'The fictitious people in the zoo had a big board supposedly showing stock market quotations and com-modity prices along one wall of their habitat, and a news ticker, and a telephone that was supposedly connected to a brokerage on Earth. The creatures on Zircon-101 had told their captives that they had invested a million bitcoins for them back on Earth, and that it was up to the captives to manage it
BingoBoingo: !up justanotheruser
adlai: there's a lightning network pun in here but i'm too spent to kill the joke. nite, or morning, as the custom may dictate
adlai: offer null and void for usg's L_n presence, its keys don't verify with the blessed rings
adlai: obviously this payment is only owed if the proof is in a form acceptable to any and all future investors in my shinola distillery, usg ktulu or otherwise
adlai: fwiw (more bullshit not worth deeding) i will pay all my personal profits to date to the L1 who provides the correct conjuring of their extraction from public ticker data
adlai: there's something amazing about getting a whisker signal before assbot, and waiting to see which direction it guesses
assbot: The Brick Testament ... ( http://bit.ly/1Y3UBIH )
adlai: well the pay bitcoin-by-proxy for cumshots!
adlai: but call me when they're paying bitcoin for aborted stem cells
adlai: unfortunately it costs less btc to keep another human alive than it does to kill yourself, and not even malthus could've foreseen this tragedy
asciilifeform: them that die will be the lucky ones (tm) (r) (treasure island)
trinque expects to succumb to some pollution or diet related illness and die the usual way.
adlai: the best use of the such
adlai: asciilifeform: while your room 101 may contain electric anthills (used to get tease out the bitcoin you don't 'own'), /me expects to get lazzaroed for association-by-homage with the 'coinjoin scammers' or somesuch
adlai didn't realize the oft-mentioned godfather of predixhun markets was behind this
asciilifeform: ahahaha the admiral poindexter thing
adlai: bwah 'The market, known as the Policy Analysis Market, or PAM, never got off the ground. Democrat politicians in the Senate uncovered the plan in July 2003 and it was dropped amid public outcry. Ron Wyden, a Democratic senator from Oregon, expressed the prevailing attitude when he said that "The idea of a federal betting parlour on atrocities and terrorism is ridiculous and it's grotesque."'
adlai: http://journals.plos.org/plosgenetics/article?id=10.1371/journal.pgen.1005713 << possibly intriguing for any meth witches in the audience with a poor bullshit game
adlai: nah bro haven't you heard, it's the self limiting drug
BingoBoingo wonders if there is a 12 step group for LSD adlai can explore, remembers medically induced ibogaine hallucinations likely conntributed to Bill's spiritual experience
adlai: the brains behind it spin a bullshit game that would make robert viragh proud
adlai wanted to bitbet short puts on the AGRS altcoin, but it turns out to not even be more than TLS-signed bittrext
BingoBoingo: Wait adlai is this the vexual is satoshi theory?
adlai leaves it to the sufficiently motivated plumber
adlai: he at least seems to have bought his voice with money, whereas i seem so far to retain it because the wot finds what i say or do sufficiently profitable or funny
assbot: Logged on 05-10-2015 23:19:14; pete_dushenski: if so, there go all my crank theories, right out the window !
adlai: seriously though, i have logs better worth burning my carpal tunnels over, and they tend to come in parenthesized pairs
adlai: beyond bitchering about relaying as though your nodeship can seed the clouds
asciilifeform: 'free market' doesn't come with a 'let's all chill and think and do we really want thermonukefest??' button
adlai: and there's no public way to politely request that hashpower babysitters bid down
asciilifeform: adlai: the 'free market for negative block space' follows trivially from the scheme discussed in the old thread, where miner optimizes for fee/byte
adlai waits for marines to kick down some door, see you on the other side of the burlap sack
adlai: perhaps, the market is known to precede itself
adlai: what tray, there were only two cubes :(
adlai: really, if it thinks such a scheme will pass, i invite the sexprs into my neural sandbox
asciilifeform: 'go ahead and transmit your tx to the free^H^H^H^Hterrorist world, but be prepared to wait two years for a confirmation. or you can send to u.s. fed miner and get in the next block.'
adlai: the magic of bitcoin is that you don't have to press either one of them, you can just shout until the button breaks of its own idiocy
adlai: it increases revenue for miners that follow their free market boners, while providing a clearer signal of the hand that rubs them
trinque: how is that distinct from the txspam "attacks"
assbot: Logged on 12-12-2015 03:21:25; adlai: lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security
adlai: i'd deed something about passing a paper wallet to the asshole who plot twists by turning around and passing the fucking joint before the atom splits, but my hopes are not enough to collect the donation on that one
adlai: where'd you see them trinque ?
adlai: worth the credit card debt.
adlai: in the meat.
adlai will see them do that same shit in ~14 hours
trinque: adlai: I saw them live when they were Ott and the All Seeing I.
BingoBoingo: "Based on their findings, Braverman and his coauthor, New York State Commissioner of Health Nirav Shah, M.D., say the BMI threshold for obesity, which now stands at 30, should be lowered to 24 for women and 28 for men." << http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/03/health/obesity-rates-maybe-worse/
adlai hates it when the market speaks to him in numbers... or loves it, for they sometimes tickle his whiskers
BingoBoingo: Look there somethings you can let the derps fart out in their bubble bath. Some things like this though actually run the risk of being taken seriously by the Chicoms.
adlai just ran out of tulip tokens for defending ideas he can neither long nor short, back to midwifing s.mpoe's self-identity crisis
shinohai: I'm sorry, if the whole history isn't there then *it isn't bitcoin*
adlai: if you're not a party to testing tepid bathtub nucleation, then you're unable to steal the vJimCrow witnesses
adlai: if you'd prefer to stick to Bitcoin, your witnesses remain safe and sound in txins where for better or worse Our Prophet Satoshi intended them to be
adlai: bitcoind gets steal-friendly witnesses, from bold experimenters who sacrifice their Bitcoin on the altars of the mine-verify greed-off
BingoBoingo: Read what? That there's a link to different data structure where actual signatures are? How the fuck does actual bitcoind get "witnesses"
BingoBoingo: * adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub << The Jim Crow "soft phork" isn't anything near soft in the way previous ones have been. Would blocks still verify on actual bitcoind? Sure. Transactions? lol nope.
adlai: yeah, i left a positive rating so they know he's good for it
shinohai: The usg would prlly like to have a chat with him then.
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 9 with note: still claims via solicited PM that he plans to break bitcoin someday
shinohai: Wasn't it just last week he was considering doing work for the nvxim cult or whatever it's called?
adlai: let idiots lose their own money. jeez. i'm done with this topic, back to my usual bullshit
adlai: as far as i can tell, the only person who mentions hardforking segwit after this idea is your favorite costume artist
adlai: note that neither sipa nor Luke-Jr nor most anybody else is advocating for a hardfork.
adlai fails to understand how "let's softfork blabla blabla blabla anything" can be viewed as anything other than playing in the bathtub
adlai: well, "you threw the wrong bitch out the window"
mircea_popescu: the slaps start flowing once they start talking out of it.
mircea_popescu: adlai if you read carefully, nobody gave a shit at any point about what the congenitally retarded / ustards do in their bathroom.
adlai: i didn't say pay the guy to break it
danielpbarron: whatever that means, it still remains that bitcoin as it exists today is a giant ball of turd. The priority should be on deturdification before major rule changes, especially considering that no such changes are currently required to ensure its survival
adlai: or properly taglined, "a place for miners to sell the only good they're licensed to manufacture"
adlai: lol yes, another one of my ideas not worth self-censoring is a free market for provable tx censorship... basically anything that gets money a better megaphone to fund its own security
adlai: once y'all get over the dick measuring you'll realize that supporting larger vN blocks is the cheapest way to reduce vM block capacity, short of paying miners to generate empty blocks, or the existence of a free market for negative block space
assbot: You rated user Luke-Jr on 16-Dec-2014, with a rating of -6, and supplied these additional notes: He tried to add blacklisting to bitcoin..
adlai: anybody who cares to find out what that rating means can probably understand it from reviewing the background to all the !s drama
adlai: stopping to hurl threats at lemmings for long enough to watch them play in their own language does a world of good to your blood pressure
assbot: Successfully updated the rating for luke-jr from 10 to 10 with note: highly amusing, misunderestimatood architect of OP_CONSEQUENCEVERIFY
adlai retires to meditate on upon shorting in the age of crippled markets
asciilifeform: 'How to read alchemical texts An introductory study course for the perplexed'
asciilifeform: in other despatches from the dept.-of-things-i-had-no-idea-i-needed, http://www.alchemywebsite.com/bookshop/reading_texts_course.html
adlai saved you the other 29
danielpbarron: from the crypty lulz >> Maybe also using other alts to withdraw your money could work but as I read many people discussed that some alts work, some other don't so I used the same way to get out as I got in via Doge. << rather than get outa dodge it's get out via doge!
asciilifeform: n00bs seem to think that isis et al are the first folks to partake in this kind of sport with modern cameras rolling, but this is not so.
BingoBoingo: Oh shit. I gotta go to my meeting. If anyone wants to do this in the next 2 hours it would be appreciated. Otherwise I'll write something up after sobertime.
asciilifeform: adlai: if you want the manual, it can be had; be sure to get the 'rationale' document also
asciilifeform: this being said, the language is not a favourite among the open sores crowd and so you will not find a great many full-length megaprojects in public
asciilifeform: adlai: the ultimate non-toy example is... the compiler
adlai can't find the specific example in the mega-collection of naggums, but he's looking for something other than toy examples... manuals are always welcome references, as are anecdotes that would be worth including in their margins
asciilifeform: from (at the time) readily available items
asciilifeform: phun phakt: meth was reinvented in su during 1980s. but there was more or less NO MARKET because folks were clueful and readily synthesized for personal use
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo wouldn't they just buy it ?
BingoBoingo: Propane tank thefts likely seriously not connected. Prolly just meth cooks.
mircea_popescu: now dump that much gasoline on the fake carpeting and set it ablaze.
asciilifeform: demolition is entirely a kinetics thing and not at all a thermodynamic thing
mircea_popescu: i don't get this. propane tank has significantly lower potential than gasoline bucket. harder to handle. why bother.
asciilifeform: (if it had gone off, potentially ~no one would know~ who was the trigger man, and why, etc)
asciilifeform: phun phakt: legendarily, the columbine incident involved a propane tank
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by the crateful, in two sittings, by 'evil-looking men with foreign accents'
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dun get it... so the news is that some people bought some phones in bunfuck ?
assbot: Kegelcizer - The Infosphere, the Futurama Wiki ... ( http://bit.ly/1NLvnrX )
mircea_popescu: that's what the pubococcygeus is for!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha but there is such a thing as too much. ultimately the activity needs friction
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "blood is the best lubricant. well, other than tears" line of thought ?
asciilifeform: if the implication of the nyooz piece is a 'gunpowder plot' involving propane bottles and gsm detonators, expect 'emergency powerz' in the near term
gribble: The operation succeeded.
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:43:49; *: mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-12-2015#1341517 << the only practical issue is overlubrication, really
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 23:17:54; danielpbarron: having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive
mircea_popescu: so blondy ditched your ass then danielpbarron ?
mircea_popescu doesn't seem much problem with fucking bleeding woman. a) sex can lead to bleeding anyway and b) you're fucking hr in the ass, might as well.
danielpbarron: mircea_popescu, it seems to me that the guy with the harem is probably the one tasked with setting the rules for the whole town. So that's that.
danielpbarron: as someone with zero wives, I don't have much sympathy for the guy who has to take periodic break from sex on account of his whole harem menstruating simultaneously
mircea_popescu: also, the thing with harems is the chicks synchronize periods.
mircea_popescu: suppose you mary the entire town first.
danielpbarron: in the "great broad" example, it sounds like some sort of adultery or fornication is taking place, or else you would marry her first
mircea_popescu: technically speaking one could just sit down and shut up for the next 50 years. but that doesn't mean one should, necessarily.
BingoBoingo: What if you skip the wife label entirely and just keep concubines?
danielpbarron: can't you just get some head from one of your other wives?
mircea_popescu: suppose you sit down to have a meal, there's this great broad at the other table, you seduce her and she sucks you off in the toilet. gotta ask if she's on her period first ?
assbot: Transgender father Stefonknee Wolschtt leaves family in Toronto to start new life as six-year-old girl | Americas | News | The Independent ... ( http://bit.ly/1NTz36A )
mircea_popescu: can the woman rub one off if she's on the rag ?
danielpbarron: funkenstein_, what about it? having sex during it should also be punished with execution but other than that..
mircea_popescu: there's dozens of different mechanisms which dictate spontaneous abortion.
mircea_popescu: but it must be pointed out that as many as 1/3 of all pregnancies are electively aborted by the woman anyway.
danielpbarron: not against masturbation either
danielpbarron: well I'm not part of the "every sperm is sacred" camp
funkenstein_: i guess there's no appeal to logic with fantasy locations transport systems then, surprise surprise
danielpbarron: at any rate, it's not the choice of anyone that someone has the syndrome is it?
danielpbarron: isn't down syndrome more like obesity, in that it is one step removed from whatever the bad thing is?
danielpbarron: having to raise a child with down syndrome is not a waste of a life, especially in light of the fact that when fed a special diet these children can actually thrive
danielpbarron: I'm all for letting kids play outside and getting hurt, and even if that means the weak ones get killed. But to preemptively murder them, before they can even hurt themselves, and for the mother's convenience (when it is her due punishment to have pains in child bearing as per the fall in the garden of eden), is reprehensible.
BingoBoingo: Purgatory is where crossfitters go for being so close and yet so far from following the path of Broseidon.
danielpbarron: there is no purgatory
BingoBoingo: aborted babies chill in purgatory with their blade hands.
adlai: i'd rather have hell overrun by the cries of aborted "babies" than the anguish of wasted lives
danielpbarron is in favor of the death penalty for doctors and women who provide and seek abortions
adlai: iirc psztorc is being disingenious to backopy, who closed shop due to rocketship ticket purchase, rather than bankrupcy
BingoBoingo: Dat upward mobility: "Odom was making $625,000 as Missouri's defensive coordinator. Just four years ago the former Mizzou linebacker was making $200,000 as the Tigers' safeties coach."
mircea_popescu: check it out, the richest country on earth meets restaurants. "what do you mean, i can tell them what i want and they'll get it for me ?!?!?!"
mircea_popescu: and holy shit that alf link. "You can ask for the Buns of a different sandwich. Most people don't know that. Like get Big Mac buns on a mc double"
mircea_popescu: if you happen to live in argentina you can also get the whole ensemble a la mode.
mircea_popescu: soo.... one thing to do if it's hot and you got a buncha spare girls : have them take cold shower by a 5 minute offset, towel off and then make out with pleasantly cool girl for five minutes
assbot: Bitcoin in Argentina : exactly nothing to do with the derps on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1eCTVVg )
danielpbarron: isn't that the mirc guy?
adlai: that'd be a better backdrop to the end of fight club
ascii_field wonders about the legendary inflection point where we start seeing airstrikes on miner positions
adlai is disappointed they didn't even take the time to use deeddust in the spray cannisters
mircea_popescu: in other news, million euro in jools stolen from high ticket store right across from hollande's office.
mircea_popescu: other interesting things from chinatown : gran masala because wtf is this garam thing, and ciruelas bombom
adlai: more from the "expensive signals to fake" department: the S.MPOE inverse correlation with btcfiat continues to decrease
nubbins`: aka the day nubs' 8 key stuck
ascii_field: 'All the type at Lumiere Press is cast in lead on a 1950s Intertype machine model C-4. It is a wondrous machine whose precursor, the Linotype, was invented in 1886.'
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:29:47; adlai: ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs
ascii_field: (if it was - then the decay rate was quite easy to test from day 1)
assbot: Logged on 11-12-2015 16:23:13; mircea_popescu: in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print
ascii_field: 'WBBH-TV, the NBC affiliate in Ft. Myers, Fla. aired what it thought was the Department of Homeland Security seal but turned out to be a doctored image with a vulgar hidden meaning...'
mircea_popescu: the wonders of overgrown states.
mircea_popescu: yet supposedly there's goldsteins out there making billions out of selling child porn, an item about as highly demanded as bestiality.
adlai: did i say to leave the uncheck unboxed?
adlai: that whooshing is everyone except gwern getting the joke
nubbins`: that whooshing is everyone except vexual missing the joke
nubbins` flies his rolling hands to the girl scout cookies ship
adlai: just wait, someday they'll beg to buy ballots on the open market and nobody will take their tainted covenantcoins
trinque flies his buttered toast ship to the coffee pot
trinque: ah the dissonance between "democracy works" and "don't judge me; we're all equal"
adlai never investigated far enough to tell, but the "use custom css" uncheckbox overcomes it
adlai: many subreddits disable the downvote link using custom css, you can still downvote but Web 2.0 won't let you know
adlai must lack the right lsd for comment scores to be hidden, or for that matter, matter
nubbins`: "as a journalist" (username the_daily_decrypt), i am 100% unable to categorize new information as "bullshit" or "worthy"
assbot: As a journalist, it's harder to use /r/bitcoin for story sources when the comment scores are hidden. I used to use the comments for additional information, but now I don't know which have been highly vetted, and which haven't. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1TFCwdq )
nubbins`: i only have like nine of these fuckers left
nubbins`: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=214589.msg13216402#msg13216402 in which nubs emphasizes the importance of pedigree
adlai: ultimately any 'dev wanted' posting answered these days devolves into blubbery faster than you can spell iojs
adlai got another followup to a job interview thread, and honestly doesn't know whether its worth picking up
nubbins`: and i mean the black was still JET fucking black.
nubbins`: but TBF the only things i actually digitally-print end up sandwiched between book covers
mircea_popescu: in honesty i don't think the sort of people still are made today, but you can't imagine the worldending chagrin and sadness of someone who truly loved a print
nubbins` uses dye inks rather than pigments, (perhaps foolishly) choosing gamut over lightfastness
mircea_popescu: imo the entire giclee thing is how we fdound out.
mircea_popescu: couirse we didn't really know this in the 90s
nubbins`: ink longevity has come a long way since then too
adlai: ok, candidate #2: "I don't know what language it'll be in, but by the time trb prints a code, it'll be with sticks and stones"
mircea_popescu: the unfortunate thing with them is that 10 yr is not the same as 10 hr.
nubbins`: iirc epson picked up the fine-art slack when IRIS declined
mircea_popescu: anyway. my abandoning the entire "art photography" thing is pretty much in step with iris' demise as a thing.
nubbins`: have seen "authentic" giclees, they're a rare bird these days
mircea_popescu: anyway. plenty of people who saw the item and its products actually blew the 100k or w/e it cost (ie, the cost of like a dozen houses in the us at the time)
mircea_popescu: no, we're measuring fine-ness by the... fine-ness!
nubbins`: now we're measuring intercourse by the speed of thrusts?
mircea_popescu: (not that even so reduced it's visibly better than the other inkjets)

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