assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 06:39:24; liquidassets: most people, and mexicans I work with, will buy a house with the little money they have, stack 9-12 members of extended families, and work their asses off to pay off a 30 year mortgage in less than 5
PeterL: When I bought the house I thought it was a financially good thing to do (I was in college at the time): buy house, pay mortgage for ~5-8 years, sell and have a nice down payment for the next house wherever my after college job ended up
PeterL: Now I would want to get a house with a large down-payment, pay it off quickly, then not have to worry about a monthly rent payment
PeterL: It is hard to predict the future, having a 30 year mortgage locking you down in one spot is not what I want to do again
PeterL: There are advantages to renting, like moving is alot easier.
PeterL: I dunno, I think I might buy. But I will approach it a bit different now, I will be more selective and aggressive instead of just taking the first offer the real estate agent suggests.
PeterL: The bank didn't lose any of that 75k, they had insurance (which was tacked onto my bill every month) to cover such a loss. Insurance didn't help me any, even though I was the one paying for it.
PeterL: liquidassets: I owed about 110k on the mortgage, house sold for about 35k. So I guess it was more like 75k "income" that was "forgiven" by USG for taxes.
liquidassets: specially when their budgets depend on it
liquidassets: "So, to continue the Drug War analogy, the generals may keep declaring truces, but the soldiers still want to fight."
liquidassets: PeterL how long was the short sale? I got in when short sales were the thing to be in, thankfully only ever was involved with one.
liquidassets: And don't think the bank is going to actually realize that 40,000 paper loss. Most of that loss was subsidized further by YOUR tax dollars
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 12:40:47; mircea_popescu: fun fact : if your debtor disposes of a retail (ie, faux) non-recourse loan and you live in the us/other such shitholes, the government WILL WANT TO TAX the ammount lost. because you made a theoretical gain.
liquidassets: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347131<< This is like what you guys talk about 95% of the time right
pete_dushenski: i've had the icespheres in old fashioneds at local restaurants. tis a classy touch
PeterL: but if you posted it on facebook, then only your "friends" would be able to see it
punkman: pete_dushenski: just gotta edit the rss template
pete_dushenski: "The government in the Netherlands has clarified that it is legal for driving instructors to offer lessons in return for sex, as long as the students are over the age of 18. However, it is illegal to offer sex in return for lessons." << hahaha so man may proposition fillie but not vice versa eh. man i like those dutch.
PeterL: I don't understand how the plastic is hygroscopic?
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 04:32:25; mircea_popescu: so i ended up the happy owner of the best ice tray i have ever seen in my life. it's exceptionally well made plastic. for one thing, it's properly flexible. for the other, it's actually hygroscopic. for yet another, the separators are actually TALL enough you get proper cubes made. it is a wonder of perfection which literally fills my life with joy.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-12-2015#1347041 << we must have the same ice cube tray because i go ga-ga for its elegant design every time i use it. been meaning to do a blog post on it aamof
assbot: Glycerol-free strategy sweetens biodiesel synthesis | Chemistry World ... ( http://bit.ly/1NuZrXl )
PeterL: http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/2015/12/glycerol-free-strategy-sweetens-biodiesel-synthesis << interesting development
mircea_popescu: well so that's the analogy. from a management pov all you care about is the water level.
PeterL: most just go straight to the tv, "I'll think about burning stuff after I watch my shows and surf facebook for a while"
mircea_popescu: all you gotta to is arbitrarily (which, in the theoretical paradigm you claim to operate under would be - illegally!) suspend whatever laws whenever things get to a boiling point
mircea_popescu: same shit with ustard : does burning down the govt result in immediate payoff ? no ? well... what's on tv ?
PeterL: i'm confused by your analogy, how does watery people relate to the current topic?
mircea_popescu: because hey, people are basically water - as long as you put the work in to make dykes while it rains, you can have an artificial lake np.
mircea_popescu: that way, you can have it at all other times.
mircea_popescu: that's the problem with that shit, it's so fucking sticky. or if you prefer less scatological terms, so well managed. it's an outrage, they know it's an outrage, but they also know people are lazy and how do you protect your outrage ?
PeterL: otherwise would have owed taxes on 50k "income"
PeterL: ^ I short-sold a house a few years ago, was lucky enough to fall in the time frame USgov was doing a special "excluding mortgage losses from taxes" stint
mircea_popescu: suppose you buy a house, take a 100k loan from the bank on the understanding that if you don't pay they can have the house and that's it. suppose the market goes to shit, and you walk. suppose the bank takes your house and sells it for 60k.
mircea_popescu: fun fact : if your debtor disposes of a retail (ie, faux) non-recourse loan and you live in the us/other such shitholes, the government WILL WANT TO TAX the ammount lost. because you made a theoretical gain.
assbot: Logged on 19-12-2015 04:32:25; mircea_popescu: so i ended up the happy owner of the best ice tray i have ever seen in my life. it's exceptionally well made plastic. for one thing, it's properly flexible. for the other, it's actually hygroscopic. for yet another, the separators are actually TALL enough you get proper cubes made. it is a wonder of perfection which literally fills my life with joy.
PeterL: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-12-2015#1345012 << I had those in one of my appartments in Lansing, they are nice because efficient and quiet, but not compatible with central air so the newer places don't have them
mircea_popescu: "we're a large collection of people who understand nothing of anything and here's what we think the world is". such an unique value proposition.
mircea_popescu: this is the quintessential non recourse debt : x (company) owes to y, and all y can do if it's not happy with the repayment schedule is take some equity stake in x.
mircea_popescu: (this isn't, as the retail bankers got the retail suckers to think, a case of "you can't takle anything other than my house".
mircea_popescu: punkman> I quite like not being in debt << as usual, retail is for suckers. consumer debt's just about the dumbest proposition i ever heard. nevertheless, nrl isn't that bad.
punkman: wywialm: I looked at it recently, the code is not horrible, but I've yet to fully grasp the overall design of the thing
assbot: [Theory] Jar Jar Binks was a trained Force user, knowing Sith collaborator, and will play a central role in The Force Awakens : reddit.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1QzHXgi )
liquidassets: I'd much rather her rape me
liquidassets: God what the hell is she?
liquidassets: In other news,, I haven't jerked off for 3 days, MP you got anything for me?
liquidassets: And anyway, it could be for other people. Give me a few million to work with and I'm going to put that shit to work
liquidassets: and its probably been said before, there's no real insight to it, but it's been swiming in my noodle for quite some time
punkman: well yes, as long as the megatons money you print doesn't really circulate
liquidassets: I mean, it would seem that 'they' got really really good and keeping inflation down, or hiding it in other ways
liquidassets: My problem with the story of contemporary hyperinflation has always been my inability to find the mechanism
liquidassets: most people, and mexicans I work with, will buy a house with the little money they have, stack 9-12 members of extended families, and work their asses off to pay off a 30 year mortgage in less than 5
liquidassets: but the rules of money are such that you will be forced out of position....until bitcoin
liquidassets: The rules of money 'change' every 40-50 years
liquidassets: digital money, debt, and the war on cash aka 'the grunch of giants' has changed the game
liquidassets: however, we are not in the weimar republic <<(not checking spelling or source)
liquidassets: This is what they teach
punkman: best to skip the real estate if you onlyt have a million
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 16:53:58; Birdman: These are interesting times to be alive, that is for sure. And i have a bezzle bag so if i do somehow keep my imediate freedoms through the crash of fiat and rise of sound money my mouth will be fed.
BingoBoingo: More keep popping up https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99
mircea_popescu: this is what "made in the usa" used to mean, 50 years ago.
mircea_popescu: but the true wtf of it all ? it's chinese.
mircea_popescu can't remember the last time he has encountered a perfect product, but it wasn't this decade.
mircea_popescu: so i ended up the happy owner of the best ice tray i have ever seen in my life. it's exceptionally well made plastic. for one thing, it's properly flexible. for the other, it's actually hygroscopic. for yet another, the separators are actually TALL enough you get proper cubes made. it is a wonder of perfection which literally fills my life with joy.
BingoBoingo: scooty puff in the wild
mircea_popescu: enjoy the web. designed by idiots.
trinque: fuck this "oh the server is down" therefore I cannot access this information that was previously published by someone in my WoT
asciilifeform: https://google-perftools.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/doc/heapprofile.html << even they have one
asciilifeform: was gonna write own this, and found these
asciilifeform: 'By searching the processs address space for all references directly or indirectly to a suspicious object, the tool helps to unveil the objects type and usage in a thorough and systematic way.'
mircea_popescu: anyway. apparently there's a limit on the count of simultaneously up services. whatevs.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 23:23:48; mircea_popescu: adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not. << they do not.
asciilifeform: because unless std::string does something clever with refcounts, as far as i can see: they do not.
asciilifeform: also interesting q: do all of these strings passed as returns ever get deallocated ?
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: <+ascii_field> https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here << cool!
pete_dushenski: lol, 'vc' was so badly abused, misused, tarred, and feathered by 'venture capitalists' aka ponzi artists that it's now taken to mean 'virtual currency'
ascii_field: in other lulz,
BingoBoingo: Interlude: "It's amazing to think that at 340lbs, I thought at 250 I'd be a waif. I should be able to dress like the guys in the Ambercrombie ads at 250! is something I would have thought one year ago." https://archive.is/bcz6R#selection-1637.0-1637.189
pete_dushenski: well, we can all go visit him, pet him on the head, make sure he's enjoying his cage.
pete_dushenski: home of the fourth conference.
ascii_field: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << experimental programmable-versionstring patch is in test, and seen even here
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile. << lol year two, but some things never change
mircea_popescu: adlai BingoBoingo seems the very angry people managed to take the whole server down meanwhile.
assbot: You rated user Naphex on 18-Dec-2015, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: most badass coder i ever worked with. his moral character & integrity are rock solid..
trinque: CoraCrisT: decrypt your otp there and provide with !v
CoraCrisT: also need to prepare the next statement.. while i get used to it
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell adlai But don't worry too much there could still be another diff increase this year
gribble: The operation succeeded.
CoraCrisT: also talked to Naphex about it. i stil need to see the actual contract
mircea_popescu: you up to date with the discussion re xotika ?
assbot: You rated user CoraCrisT on 30-Nov-2015, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: XOtika.tv CEO - Handles bussiness side, press, recruiting, marketing, hr, pr.
BingoBoingo: Win >> "Guys, I think the Gopher people were right."
assbot: We talked to the Albertans selling bottled air to China — and despite all indications to the contrary, it’s not a hoax ... ( http://bit.ly/1msiIQo )
pete_dushenski: http://www.nationalpost.com/m/wp/news/blog.html?b=news.nationalpost.com/news/canada/selling-bottled-lake-louise-air-started-as-a-joke-but-theres-actually-a-lot-of-demand&pubdate=2015-12-17 << local kids selling chinese something only we have. soon : one can of fresh mountain air for one amd fx tower with 64 gb ecc plox.
pete_dushenski: when really, the artificial gap narrows
mircea_popescu: their idea was that hey, if official goes up, black market goers up THAT MUCH MORE
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 02:16:10; mircea_popescu: (this was counterintuitive to the grunts doing money changing in the street, we had a good laugh over steaks about it, when discussing venezuela's plans to the same thing. after it played out they decided i was a god. because hey, why admit you were wrong when you could think the guy who's right is simply supernatural)
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1345982 << haha oh monkey brain, your search for the guy who can precisely predict the millimetres of rain that will fall on your village next season never ceases.
pete_dushenski: i thought ben_vulpes was all 'auto-auto-mobiles are the footoor because bayes'
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 14:26:51; mircea_popescu: "However, our growth rate did not meet our expectations, and the service does not scale as we would have expected to." aka "trying to leech of bitcoin while doing the usual fiat bullshit doesn't work."
Naphex: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-12-2015#1345434 <<< the statement should be issued sometime during this week, hopefully by 22; if that's what you're referring to
mircea_popescu: http://links.net/vita/gamelayers/ << the guy's literate, at least, so maybe interesting
mircea_popescu: ing and everything else. The publisher got paid a 20% commission." <<< put their dumbass widget on your site (so provide all the leads), use your own creatives (so provide all the work), be paid a 20% COMISSION.
mircea_popescu: "We thought that others would also be interested in such a feature for their website, that made it possible to sell print products from all their pictures. Therefore, we decided to build something more generic, that everyone else could use as well. The new service was called PiXnPaLs PhotoProducts, which helped publishers monetize their website by selling print products from images. We took care of payment, shipp
mircea_popescu: now obviously chair warmers all across the land have no fucking idea about anything and are happy to stay dumb, so random X may pretend whatever the fuck. but that's an entirely different matter.
mircea_popescu: or to be more precise : the only way it could be actually used makes it obvious it's being so used (same exact principle as for the pay for your tits thing : carve this hash in the guy's forehead or some shit), and it being obvious it's so being used makes it trivial for bitbet to disalow the bet in question.
assbot: There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1IZeA4t )
mircea_popescu: anyway, while trilema's down, https://archive.is/ri2ta if anyone's desperate for the content.
adlai: tidy little hop there :D
ascii_field lacks the necessary lsd to parse this
liquidassets: To all current and prospective USAsseters out there, true greatness can ever rarely be punished, much less so in the US, which makes its history something to be proud of. Don't forget that
mircea_popescu: the point here is that just like what people want to do with a camera (take pictures of woman) is not a good fit for your idea of a camera, just so what people want to do with sa is not a good fit for your idea of a sa.
mircea_popescu: ok, let's indulge. was there a woman in your picture with legs lazily spread apart ?
ascii_field: (consumer appliance with takes the pic every day)
ascii_field: i'd have to get it out of the vacuum cleaner
mircea_popescu: this is not even the case for fucking computers, let alone random phenomena.
ascii_field: original vidicon tube worked rather like this.
mircea_popescu: read the heatmap lol
mircea_popescu: then make your own, out of rhesistors
mircea_popescu: what was the thing you dragged over to conf ?
ascii_field: 'Juniper SIRT is not aware of any malicious exploitation of these vulnerabilities.' << aahaaaa
mircea_popescu: these nuts are fine.
mircea_popescu: "during a recent random walk through the codebase in a desperate but doomed attempt to fix or at least paper over bugs we have no idea about to any degree, we discovered that our code repository is so broken half the shit in there wasn't even written by anyone we know. we'll keep pretending like we're a thing tho, because seriously, what the hells the difference anymore ? considering all the lies we've told to date, it
ascii_field: from the rumour mill, a straight backdoor
ascii_field: from the dept of l0ltr0nics: https://forums.juniper.net/t5/Security-Incident-Response/Important-Announcement-about-ScreenOS/ba-p/285554
mircea_popescu: how do you know you're stuck in the kindergarten ?
mircea_popescu: really, the only good equivalent is chocolate gold coins.
ascii_field: (pelevin, strugatski brothers, etc)
mircea_popescu: the original prose is very delicate, hopefully they preserved the thin porcelain quality.
ascii_field: waitasec there is an english ver ?!!
mircea_popescu: it's kinda weird they wenbt with "habarnam" rather than "niznai" seeing how it's an actual bona fide ro world.
mircea_popescu: haha no, i never read the sequel.
mircea_popescu: yup. great book too. it might be the best kids book ever written
mircea_popescu: https://habarnam.ro/aventurile+lui+habarnam/ << habarnam. readily recognized by the cultivated.
mircea_popescu: ascii_field my first thought upon encountering my first usians, as a 10 yo boy, was that "these people never went to school, did they ?"
mircea_popescu: middle aged woman too, accomplished in fat (there's this certain rotundness of the respectable matron with prgeniture)
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 17:07:00; mircea_popescu: the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:25; mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 16:28:00; mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
assbot: Logged on 18-12-2015 15:42:51; liquidassets: Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-12-2015#1346515 << go take vacation to syria or any other pesthole where most people are under 30
mircea_popescu: and the answer is "fuck 'em".
mircea_popescu: course, such a world will, by and large, suck to live in. but, again, the question is, suck FOR WHOM ?
mircea_popescu: the notion that userbase is a metric has got to go, this is a not-negotiable prerequisite of a world that doesn't suck.
mircea_popescu: just... people are dumb. that's it. that's all. you gonna make something they can use or not ?
mircea_popescu: a length of chain, a manger and the occasional stallion visit is actually better for her.
mircea_popescu: the 18 so it's 180 now, comes to 520. i point this out. she proceeds to add them again correctly this time, and comes to 488. i refuse this alt-arithmetic too. she does it once more, hands me 82 pesos in change for my 400. i refuse this once again, hand 40 pesos back to her and leave.
mircea_popescu: in any case asciilifeform, thius is the primary driver for the stupidification of everything, and it's genuine. people are stupid. either you build your cash register as the mcdonals iconographic abomination, or they stick to doing it "by hand". like idiot argentine woman yest. i buy a carton of cigarettes, four litersd of milk and two lighters. she does the addition on paper. first she adds 80 + 260 + 18 but misplaces
Birdman: Ill tell you that for half the price
mircea_popescu: s per group of users etc.). We should have sold a set of of lists with pictures, a few simplified maps and targeted howtos rather than an army-grade Web satellite radar with full control in your hands." << the conclusion we arrived at through spending 1mn euro is that people are stupid.
mircea_popescu: I mean, who in the marketing industry is able to decode a 15K Web graph even if it contains loads of useful informations? And that was our number #1 feature. Now, I acknowledge the graph data was essential. We should have delivered them in an more effective and practical way: spreadsheets, data views (who are the influencers, how can I contact the websites owners, recommended keywords for Facebook/Twitter/newsletter
mircea_popescu: "I think we had too much hesitation in the decisions about what we were able to do and on the delivered product as well.
liquidassets: But there's literally a dozen of us
liquidassets: Look the culture of 'government's place is to stay OUT of the way' runs deep within America
Birdman: Though by the same logic, spending 20 USD would get me more bitcoin than the bezzle bag will ever in my lifetime
liquidassets: Birdman I say not in our lifetime because from my point of view, we win, we already won, it's just the matter of convincing Alf of this fact
Birdman: These are interesting times to be alive, that is for sure. And i have a bezzle bag so if i do somehow keep my imediate freedoms through the crash of fiat and rise of sound money my mouth will be fed.
mircea_popescu: trinque in fairness, i only imagine there's gonna be camps for black ppls.
Birdman: The implementation of this central banking fiat debt cycle nonsense is so new to this world. What a century its been here? How long can it really last because we all know it cant.
liquidassets: lol I can read the writing...
liquidassets: Birdman there's not going to be any camps
liquidassets: Actually that's about a perfect answer as they come
mircea_popescu: find a girl outside the states and go live with her.
mircea_popescu: "They will most likely not eat out of your hand if they can perceive you need them at first." << bwahahaha. they will not eat out of your hand if they perceive you need them ; and they will spend every dime they got to ignore you outright if they perceive you don't need them. so it goes.
mircea_popescu: shinohai they've been working doubletime to keep that thing afloat. pretty lulzy.
mircea_popescu: atever exists is at best a paraeconomical concern surviving more on ideological fit than in satisfying objective measures. what, if "customers" are dissatisfied with the usg food or pills dispensaries they'll do what exactly ?
mircea_popescu: However these companies made their life without you, most probably for years." << the fundamental delusion of start-up-ers is that the market is free and efficient, and therefore there exist objective measures of worth. the sad reality of life in socialist states (ie, any state that acquires through any means any measure of control on 10% of the production of the citizens or more) is that the market's distorted, and wh
mircea_popescu: "The promise is the following: a startup thinks it has an innovative solution. A startup thinks many other companies would pay for it.
assbot: Dogecoin Integrates in Ethereum for Application in Smart Contracts | ForkLog ... ( http://bit.ly/1OAVrSO )
shinohai: In today's two-scams-combine-to-become-one news: http://forklog.net/dogecoin-integrates-in-ethereum-for-application-in-smart-contracts/
mircea_popescu: who knew that answering a bunch of pre-made questions nobody could care less about and then trying to mechanically "datamine" them isn't as good an approach as "hey, check out X, she's exactly right for you"
mircea_popescu: (in other news, okcupid's "ai" matching system is an utter useless pos. my own network creates usable hits with a 50% probability or better, by the 100s/day - and i didn't even KNOW i know chicks on okcupid in the first place. their crapolade made me click no about five hundred times in a row.)
liquidassets: Birdman females are OBSESSED with who gets to sleep with who, it's one of their shows of power that some don't give up even after high school
mircea_popescu: http://www.okcupid.com/profile/SharksAreRadical < cute 19yo, "I'll be living in Ottawa from January to May for a job, I know absolutely no one there and would love to have some friends."
mircea_popescu: well attention seeking behaviours are the invisible glue that keeps society together n'est pas.
Birdman: I guess the man hating isn't there, but you know, the crazy feminists who think a guy eyeing a hot girl is somehow violent and un just. They just know all too well that their sexuality is empowering, so those who lack it are intimidated. Sort of like the beta male crying for fairness with socialism or communism, but really just knows his weaknesses and cant compete in the true fair system.
mircea_popescu: (the counter doth actually exist - men that genuinely hate women. i suspect the driver is that men are, for some inexplicable reason, actually petrified of cunt. it seems innate.)
mircea_popescu: but that unicorn, the woman that actually hates men, i've not encountered myself.
mircea_popescu: honestly, i've yet to meet a woman (not mayo-gendered abominations, i've really not met any nor do i intend to) that actually hated men. there's a very mean streak in women generally, but visible with the naked eye in just some, where they truly and irationally haet beta boys, for some definition of beta that may be at first confounding.
Birdman: Ehh maybe i mean misandrists then, feminazis. Or that you've accomplished an incredible feat.
mircea_popescu: and no, there isn't a local equivalent. they're just primitive souls, computers = windows ; internet = facebook ; world = argentina etc scl.
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news : the grand total okcupid offering for "women < 30 > 1.70cm within the 15mn buenos aires conurbation active in the past day" is... half a dozen people. clearly okcupid's not doing advertising correctly amirite nubbins ? :D
mircea_popescu: Birdman nonsense. i've fucked rather hawt feminists.
mircea_popescu: "any flaws were god-given ; any qualities are my own" is just another rewrapping of that stale old jeder nach seinen fahigkeiten, jedem nach seinen Bedurfnissen cumbiscuit.
Birdman: all the pc sjws are the people so repugnant that they need to claim a moral ground against pointing out their flaws.
liquidassets: health food grocery store by a college campus after graduation....most of my life has been about "PC" or at least the prospect of it..
mircea_popescu: apparently "yo bitch, wanna make some motherfuckin' money ?" works better on barefoot womenz.
mircea_popescu: if it's cuz you feel like it, then minesotta richboy's rather funny. if he's not funny, then wtf accomplishments were they.
Birdman: Does it upset you some people have a better start in the world?
mircea_popescu: more importantly, why the fuck would you be working a menial job if you've ever accomplished anything fo real ?
liquidassets: LOL yeah probably...never felt too proud about them, even though I "should" because of how they look
Birdman: If you are proud of your accomplishments you wont be threatened by anothers i guess.
mircea_popescu: liquidassets there's something fundamentally wrong about those accomplishments.
mircea_popescu: Birdman yeah they've been blaring it out of all horns for a coupla days now. it makes a stark contrast to how quiet they'll be about the end results of this yet-another GTO (glorious tikrit offensive).
mircea_popescu: the internet became its own self-parody sometime in what, 1995 ?
mircea_popescu: really puts into perspective all the dumbass stevensons out there, doing srs bzns on teh interwebs.
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trinque: on the one side, the moo-eyed demands of the walmart customer, and on the other, a male desire for power which - if he's worth a shit - will accumulate over his lifetime
Birdman: Natural as in most people will end up like that? I dont intend to grow into that situation. I cant speak for anything outside of my own experiences, but as the world with open arms accepts socialism, you can expect more unfounded entitlement.
liquidassets: I think Birdman that it's a natural thing to want respect as you get older, especially FROM the younger. Because most younger are worthless anyway and they never got respect from their peers either
Birdman: Yes, as far as America goes this is common. The fat slob brainwashee's who arent worth a damn would like to be held in high regards.
liquidassets: It's a theme trinque see Caprica
Birdman: There is a difference between courtesy and respect, though. It might have been drilled into their heads that they deserve it, for some reason, and senses of entitlement are rampant.
trinque: do not take the circumstances under which you grew up as universal.
liquidassets: Which frustrates the older
liquidassets: Birdman and this is where I think there's an actual generational difference, the younger doesn't just automatically give it
liquidassets: But still, if you're an old, frustrated, white, male, American, who watches Fox News and considers yourself informed, and all the young cocks blah blah, back in my day, blah blah..
mircea_popescu: for all you know they're exactly right.
liquidassets: Previously my frustration has been with older men who think themselves a little too highly for my taste, have acquired the ability to navigate social circles/seem to have all the power, and see me as a punk kid
Birdman: Well to be fair if the food had been sitting out a few days..
mircea_popescu: so there you go.
liquidassets: Don't care really, I'd be impressed. Looking around I'd usually prefer most of them to just die already
liquidassets: We are all so young. Is there anyone here over 40? just curious
mircea_popescu: (mostly because the skin is not designed to protect its insides from osmotic processes driven by outside chemicals)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aha the later.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there is. bad ph.