asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350311 << tobacco went the way of tobacco to make room for new dopez
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 13:18:03; mircea_popescu: Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350295 << aaaand Official Truth proclaims that the thing was not a usg op getting burned. aha, who wants to buy bridge ?
mircea_popescu: so php has a "ignore repeated location / type of error" dual switch. which inexplicably comes NOT THROWN. because yeah, this is totally logical, if someone doesn't care about one instance you gotta provide them with infinity instances of the same thing. idiots.
mircea_popescu: fine. so ? learning's still learning, whether he does or doesn't.
mircea_popescu: so a bunch of idiot americans band together, agree to not learn, and expect teacher to "throw the curve".
mircea_popescu: but none of this changes the fact that waiter is an actual profession.
mircea_popescu: the fundamental argentinian-ness of the human mind, "oh, ok, this is what i get paid, now how could i move down what i gottaq do for it ?" really needs the british imperial "fuck you, you don't eat" as typified by lord newton.
mircea_popescu: this is the path to failure : first, professionals want to do less work for the same money ; then, parasites move in to do the same work, for less money. and the lemon cycle persists.
asciilifeform: ('uber' is about 1/2 to 1/3 the cost of a 'normal' cab in wash dc region)
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 13:17:24; mircea_popescu: and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350294 << i've used it 5x so far. once it was a fraud (see logz) and got refund. the other 4, it was dour iranian drivers every bit as good as a 'normal' cabbie. which brings us to the very real 'fat' that there was to be trimmed from cab fare in usa: amortized cost of medallion passed to the customer, and other idiocies that uber nuked
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350233 << the 'research subpoenaed from cmu' cover is lulzy
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 06:37:41; ben_vulpes: interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work
BingoBoingo: oh qntra has its style sheet back http://trilema.com/2014/its-not-the-sauce-its-the-poultry-and-other-metamathematical-considerations/
mircea_popescu: WHO THE FUCK CARES ABOUT "STRICT STANDARDS" AND "DEPRECATED" AND ALL YOUR STUPID SHIT! jesus!
mircea_popescu: so i edited fucking php ini, restarted the whole shebang, it STILL spits its dumbass warnings and notices omfg.
mircea_popescu: motherfucker it will not stop.
mircea_popescu: they changed how shit works because why not ?
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Czars go to Yale and Honchos either come from A&M or community college
punkman: http://greenrushdaily.com/2015/12/11/american-cancer-society-officially-admits-chemotherapy-treatments-actually-increase-likelihood-second-cancer/
BingoBoingo: czars are appointees. Honchos come up through the bottom.
mircea_popescu: why "head honcho" and not the more common "czar" ?
mircea_popescu: o look at that, the dea's a fief.
assbot: World’s most ‘adorable drug kingpin’ is actually the daughter of Texas DEA head honcho ... ( http://bit.ly/1mfBZnT )
punkman: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/worlds-most-adorable-drug-kingpin-is-actually-the-daughter-of-texas-dea-head-honcho/
mircea_popescu: back in the 80s.
BingoBoingo: Soviets just got sloppy when the latched onto schizophrenia as psychiatric umbrella. West has been riding this bipolar/"mood spectrum disorder" grinder for a while now.
BingoBoingo: Only the soviets would notice.
BingoBoingo: I nearly forgot we linked earleir this classic on backdoor miltown getting real popular for a while http://www.theangrypharmacist.com/archives/2013/10/somabots-transform.html
mircea_popescu: or is that something only the soviets would notice.
mircea_popescu: anyone ever wondered what every kid being a reefer says about their country ?
mircea_popescu: "the western world - a place so miserable teenage suicide is still the exception, but teenage cns depressant medication the rule"
BingoBoingo: If only because all the other tranquilizers like miltown and thalidomide are so much easier to pile on to. "Miltown, what kind of drug has bezoars as a side effect?"
BingoBoingo: The benzodiazepine revolution has happened, and it's going to be a while before it can get stigma'd out like tobacco.
BingoBoingo: Not really. And really benzos like Xanax are the "safer" tranquilizers.
mircea_popescu: "oh, but it helps people. it calms my nerves!" was iirc the state-of-the-art in tobacco "critiquing" for about a century.
BingoBoingo: Or mebbe to teach the Uni a lesson when the civil suits come because a bunch of frat bros were popping xanax and buttchugging vodka now that their weed is gone.
BingoBoingo: Because available and the rappers are doing it.
BingoBoingo: Just imagine. You take away all the drugs they can handle and they gotta resort to drugs they don't know wtf to do with.
BingoBoingo: st zombies, all doing Xanax because they couldnt smoke pot and stuff so it was the only thing they could do."
BingoBoingo: "Theres this one fraternityreally well-known on campus, attracted a lot of attentionthat started getting drug-tested and its still talked about how this fraternity went from, like, a group of guys who functioned normally and held high position among the university and then they all just became bartardsthats the term for people who eat Xanax bars. They all went from just, you know, regular college guys to ju
assbot: University of Alabama quietly testing fraternity brothers for drugs | AL.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1J310gz )
mircea_popescu: "Apparently Juniper only realised this recently and not when they were issuing KB28205." yaya.
mircea_popescu: Update: Shortly after reading my post, Willem Pinckaers pointed out that the reseed_system_prng function sets the global variable system_prng_bufpos to 32. This means that after the first invocation of this function, the for loop right after the reseed call in system_prng_gen_block never executes. Hence, the ANSI X9.31 PRNG code is completely non-functional.
mircea_popescu: and this is kinda also what powers the "uber revolution" : if you're willing to go from drivers to unskilled labour, you may "save" a little change off your ride and uber can make a killing.
mircea_popescu: here's a rough rule of thumb : if the guy bringing you your donut is making below minimum wage, he is BY DEFINITION of the terms "minimum wage" and "waiter" NOT a waiter. because being a waiter IS A PROFESSION, just like being a computer engineer or a driver. meanwhile minimum wage is reserved for UNSKILLED!!! labour. like webstack developers and singer-songwriter-tablewaiters.
mircea_popescu: bahwhahahahaha. random douche who thinks "waiters" = the douches just like him moving around tgi tuesdays is going to TEACH something, by repeating it over and over. an' thart something ain't gonna be "this fat poor sucker's also a jerk". it's gonna be something else. because he's the not so little train engine that can!
mircea_popescu: (btw, is this known universally or just ro junior high amusement ? buncha kids get around tree, see who pisses on it the highest ?)
BingoBoingo still waiting for the levorotary/dexrotary gender crISIS
mircea_popescu: no, that's not the issue. the issue is that a dumbass feminist who ate enough so you can't distinguish her wasp bites from man boobs imagines herself a "homosexual male".
mircea_popescu: THAT is the problem. idiot imagines what sane people will choke on is the notion that she's a dumbass feminist.
mircea_popescu: Many think that Intersectional Feminism is at odds with cis het white men. This stems from the fact"
mircea_popescu: "Most people would assume I am a walking oxymoron. At least, they would assume the latter part of that word. However, I am here today to give you a glimpse of how it is possible to be a cissexual heterosexual white male intersectional feminist and how Im living proof.
mircea_popescu: lol theymos got -39 reddit votes. clearly teh system wurx.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's based on how they judge their ability to comprehend wtf alf did. "this is crazy" "this is batshit insane" "i have no idea wtf this even is" and perhaps other layers.
mircea_popescu: <ben_vulpes> interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work <<< quite.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, on one hand fair is fair and on the other hand not only is it not our cattle, we don't fucking want to herd cattle in the first place. so...
mircea_popescu: hurr durr. i'm sure it will be the eventual solution to "scaling", for any value of scaling = http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349366
mircea_popescu: "Lightning will allow for almost all of the security, features, and decentralization of Bitcoin transactions while drastically reducing the number of on-blockchain transactions that each individual will need to perform. This is expected to be the real eventual solution to scaling."
mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> war <<< "There will not be any hardfork for at least the next ~year." <<< mno. no war, sheepish surrender. we find these terms acceptable, to quote !churchill.
BingoBoingo: Ah, there it is, ty trinque
BingoBoingo: Ah so he's either fat or manorexic to top it all off
punkman: "The patriarchy expects me to be a big burly man to soak up all the privilege I can. However, I find that the thinner you are as a male, the more willing people are to interact with you because you are not so threatening. As I get thinner, the patriarchy has a harder time keeping a hold on me because I can slip through its fingers more easily."
punkman: "People call themselves a sushi chef after two to four years of making sushi, or going from restaurant to restaurant instead of taking up an apprenticeship. That doesn’t fly in my book. When a white sushi chef says, “I would work there, but it was too demanding,” then I say you are definitely too weak and we are not cut from the same cloth."
punkman: "Not to be "that guy", but as cool as it is to ponder doing this in some bright, shiny language like Rust or ML, Ada exists for a reason. There's even an open source compiler (Gnat) that can already generate code that can link with C/C++/etc code bases. Work would need to go into streamlining the run time overhead for this use case, but how much compared to maintaining some C compiler
assbot: Logged on 22-12-2015 05:29:33; asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
assbot: Logged on 17-12-2015 15:01:36; mircea_popescu: this will also add a 0.7-.8 expense on the s.nsa books, but hey, whatchagonnado.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 23:38:07; mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ?
ben_vulpes: interesting to note the various timelines for replication of trb work
assbot: Capacity increases for the Bitcoin system -- Bitcoin Core : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1O5xVRL )
BingoBoingo: war https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-core/capacity-increases https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3xr8ql/capacity_increases_for_the_bitcoin_system_bitcoin/
asciilifeform: my other two:
trinque lets the new deedbot node have a taste
asciilifeform: (it is on a titanically-spiffy box mircea_popescu built, and hasn't - as of yet - anything else there. though it will shortly)
asciilifeform: plz use one of the live nodez
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-12-2015#1350133 << ok looks like 195* is the old (dead) dulap
BingoBoingo: Comments from the last ~week are missing, but..
BingoBoingo: In other news qntra content is back
mircea_popescu: in unrelated news, telecentro sa might be the shittiest isp the world has ever seen.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell BingoBoingo (or any other ebay junkie) http://www.ebay.com/itm/USSR-SPY-KGB-Secret-Phone-line-Digital-Scrambler-GNC-9-3-9-3-/290854902161 << interesting piece of shit, with no historical record anywhere net-accessible of its existence. might make for a mega-article.
mircea_popescu: You can then run this with something like LC_ALL=C nohup ./bitcoind -myip=<yourip> -addnode=trusted_node_1 -addnode=trusted_node_2 -verifyall 2>&1 &
mircea_popescu: ind-99997K.sh) and make it executable (chmod +x build-bitcoind-99997K.sh) and then you run it (./build-bitcoind-99997K.sh). that's pretty much it, takes half hour or so, spits out an executable bitcoind (in /rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src).
mircea_popescu: anyway, for pete_d and anyone else who might have encountered difficulty with trb or fears they might : it's actually rather painless. 1. you create an account on a server ; 2. you cd /home/account_name ; 3. you create a .wot directory (mkdir .wot) ; 4. you put the pubkeys of people you trust in there as name1.asc, name2.asc etc ; 5. you download the rotor script (curl deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh > build-bitco
mod6: <+danielpbarron> yeah appears so << did the whole thing build for you alright?
phf: he was a strong willed man, and many people from former su countries paid their respects, i'd feel accomplished in life if i can live up to his legacy
phf: i'm still around, my dad died on the 10th, so i've been busy arranging his affairs
mod6: shinohai: btw, i can walk you through getting an openbsd version going. you have to manually add some patches posted to the ML by 'phf'?
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 19:45:02; jurov: ben_vulpes: do you have publicly available sample outcome of the glorious process?
mod6: that would have had to have been placed in the local pdir (patch dir) and sdir (seals dir) manually - it's not in http://thebitcoin.foundation/v/ yet
asciilifeform: was wondering if he has the programmable verstring
mod6: <+trinque> http://deedbot.org/build-bitcoind-99997K.sh << If Mr. P. used this, then it does this (in the script): ./v.pl p verbose TEST2 asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch
asciilifeform: and there you are on dulap.
mircea_popescu: what's the rush.
asciilifeform: replace with one of the currently-live nodez
mod6: <+trinque> yes but this is seriously layered and needs to be smashed into one script. << this is a good point there a bunch of gyrations in the current script that could be folded all into one better script.
mod6: cause it died right then. heh.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> wut sarc << oh thought you had sarc tag on about the seals warning your 19yo got. :]
asciilifeform: at any rate even if mircea_popescu doesn't feel like making 60, it would be great if you lot came up with another dozen or so. take some of the load off my poor junkers
mircea_popescu: prolly should exist on the main page of trb site, at that.
mod6: ah, ok. It's not super easy to follow unless you've been keeping up with all the testing. I'm trying to keep the ML clean so people don't get tripped up later.
mod6: mircea_popescu: I'll reflect on this conversation and your trials/tribulations and use it to guide us going forward to the finish line here.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the only congrats that are in order go to teh foundation. well done peeps.
asciilifeform: (the boxes that are simply out to hog sockets)
asciilifeform: also would be interesting to spot the octopi
mircea_popescu: im not in the business of filling pants tho!
mod6: yeah, noted. i think the design decision there was "if i put it in pwd, someone might not know where it is, they may just check ~/ first."
mircea_popescu: mod6 one thing to consider : rather than a wd to set the wot dir, simply have it put stuff under current dir ?
asciilifeform: 'cause mine has strings like /home/stas/br-super/stator/ourlibs/lib/engines in the stripped elf
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gcc embeds local paths (aha quite retarded) in the elf
mircea_popescu: anyway, i could in principle put up ~60 of these overnight
mod6: about the offsets
mircea_popescu: but in fairness the stack has improved HEAPS and bounds from its state pre-mod6-99997 release, so ima not say anything more
mircea_popescu: Error: To use bitcoind, you must set a rpcpassword in the configuration file
asciilifeform: you gotta put that envir var there
asciilifeform: this is necessary when running a musl executable on a heathen (glibc) linux
mircea_popescu: but other than that, latest script was pretty spiffy mod6
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> listen we really gotta pick one of these and stick to it. << will sort this out with the manifest/file-o-hashes
asciilifeform: there is no other way to flamethrower the ubiquitous braindamage that prevents every single thing i ever publish from building on half the boxes
mod6: yeah, the manual says about ".asc"
mod6: Then if you take that paste, chmod +x it, run it, it /should/ pull down all of the deps (still not complete, grabs stuff over the web), pull down V, press a 'TEST2', then build rotor, and then finally bitcoind inside of it.
mod6: Ok mircea_popescu asciilifeform ben_vulpes trinque : The latest version of my rotor+V+TEST2 script is here: http://dpaste.com/1R04312.txt : All you should need to do before hand is create a ~/.wot dir and add; "asciilifeform.asc", "mircea_popescu.asc", "mod6.asc", "ben_vulpes.asc", "trinque.asc", and "punkman.asc" into that directory.
mod6: is that with my 'V', or post the log line where he gave you that.
mod6: if you don't tell it where to put them it creates ~/.wot ~/.seals and then drops the patchdir in your pwd.
mod6: this is all in the doc.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> as it is i put .wot in /trb/.wot but the .seals are still up one level ;/ << noted.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir. << alright
mod6: +asciilifeform> looks like mod6's script actually fetches it from openssl site << yes. for now, for testing. i haven't actually put up the stuff yet because until yesterday, wasn't finalized, wasn't signed etc.
trinque: oh and btw, linked the script to say "I have used this and it works" not "this is a release according to mod6"
mod6: <+asciilifeform> mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml << no. it "works" as far as I and others have tried it -- it relies upon haveing my, alf's, mp's, ben's, and trinque's keys in a ~/.wot dir iirc.
trinque: if so perhaps I should turn off the feeds until you're done.
mircea_popescu: i just downloaded the linux kernel...
trinque: also would be good to have curl output some progress info when downloading. it otherwise appears hung when pulling down boost, or did to me.
mircea_popescu: it finished without error, created the dir quoted above and thats it
trinque: mircea_popescu: the build script ought to be making all this
trinque: it is running the rotor/TEST2/rotor.sh ...
trinque: I would say that the file tree here needs some work.
trinque: yes, and after building the binary will be buried at rotor/TEST2/bitcoin/src/bitcoind
trinque: the first output is it verifying signatures of various curl downloads, as I see it running it again.
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is 0xAB07D806D2CE741FB886EE50B025BA8B59C36319 even worth loading into a system in 2015.
mircea_popescu: as it is i put .wot in /trb/.wot but the .seals are still up one level ;/
mircea_popescu: mod6 as a purely aesthetic point, i hate that your v puts its files/dirs straight under ~. it would be much better if it made them under current dir.
pete_dushenski also recalls this particular dpaste, even having tried it on fresh os!, and failing for reasons i shamefully didn't have time to delve into further
trinque: so it is not lost to the sands of dpaste
mircea_popescu: trinque mind dpasting your fixed version then ?
trinque: definitely needs to be released on the site..
trinque: did output a usable product thereafter, and it's running on a debian, was built on a gentoo where it also ran.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 23:33:24; mircea_popescu: the moment we go off mod6 instructions and into alf instructions we suddenly need a rear admiral and five airline pilots.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349859 << /me recalls many hours spent on this exact back-and-forth and hack-and-saw over the summer
mircea_popescu: holy shit it's in a dpaste in the logs ?
assbot: Logged on 30-11-2015 04:08:01; mod6: trinque, et. al: The updated [version 99997 K] rotot v054-TEST2 (via `V') script: http://dpaste.com/3J5SA2V.txt
trinque: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-11-2015#1333964 << I had to dos2unix the script before running.
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 22:53:29; asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349611 << if pete_dushenski is interested in the trb affair, prolly best bang for his buck will be to learn ~why~ various things were done, rather than the agonizing particulars of ~how~
mircea_popescu: no "as before" ; no "mine", none of the bs.
mircea_popescu: i have exactly nothing anywhere. the disk is fucking empty. this is deliberate.
mircea_popescu: the moment we go off mod6 instructions and into alf instructions we suddenly need a rear admiral and five airline pilots.
asciilifeform did not write the build script on trb site
asciilifeform: incidentally do you have the toolchain built ?
asciilifeform: anyway there is also an 'ourlibs' dir where all of the built crud will go. empty at the start.
asciilifeform: distfiles has the tarballs
mircea_popescu: that it, is the distfiles loaded and i can proceed ?
mircea_popescu: im going to proceed on the grounds that i match that sha256 but srsly...
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: AGuide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )
mircea_popescu: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html script uses .gz throughout
mircea_popescu: holy shit sha512sum doesn't match either.
mircea_popescu: listen we really gotta pick one of these and stick to it.
mircea_popescu: oh the manifest is sha512.
mircea_popescu: and this differs from fc512d3bfa6a39a60fee548775c97239271cf757587b8df7ed739c800844a819a359dca172be0e69ad7752753753139bf11f0813d650066d58386662fe32842d boost_1_52_0.tar.bz2 in the manifest
mircea_popescu: oddly the script i'm using as a guide to hack this together uses boost="http://sourceforge.net/projects/boost/files/boost" curl -L "$boost/1.52.0/boost_1_52_0.tar.gz" \ for some reason, unlike in the other two cases.
mircea_popescu: can't fucking use the thing.
mircea_popescu: curl http://thebitcoin.foundation/ | grep "openssl" comes back empty also!
asciilifeform: which is presumably where everybody's been getting the turdz
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: AGuide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )
asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-March/000067.html also has a 1) hash 2) link to original vendor www
mircea_popescu: ;;google openssl-1.0.1g.tar.gz site:thebitcoin.foundation
mircea_popescu: why the fuck should i need to ask questions AFTER i read it. how am i better off than one who didn't bother reaqding it, for my effort ? and how's this encouraging people to rtfm already.
mircea_popescu: the rest of the discussion in http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-June/000102.html being irrelevant
mircea_popescu: so basically, the entirety of work of interest here is : go to http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150627/stator_7447d6ad798179d04e9d277acb72799b3c7d0eae.tar.gz ; In 'distfiles', read 'MANIFEST' and place the tarballs found therein in said dir.
mircea_popescu: yes yes. the idea being : no reference!
asciilifeform: it means the instructions from stator
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "6) in it, set up a stator dir, e.g., /home/luser/rotor/stator and fill distfiles with tarballs, etc. as before." << what the fuck do you think this means ?
kakobrekla: ideally should be in the wiki imo
asciilifeform: unfortunately this is described nowhere but the logz
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 21:21:34; pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: but your controlling point about whose dominion is a thing is well taken. the boundaries here are very loosely defined, and yet so broad that i'm bound to miss important things, but mostly as these important things relate to trb development, an area where my only experience was debian testing and v-verification this summer
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349611 << if pete_dushenski is interested in the trb affair, prolly best bang for his buck will be to learn ~why~ various things were done, rather than the agonizing particulars of ~how~
assbot: Logged on 21-12-2015 18:32:56; mircea_popescu: well no, removed the entire religion thing, from the "must build cathedral" to "tithe" - speaking of which, you ever seen l'avare with de funes ? epic tithing scene in there - and on and on. review the literature of the 1800s, about half the drivel printed was various clerics opiniong self importantly on matters they thoroughly ignored.
asciilifeform: nobody cancelled the church, it just morphed into 'hjooooman rightz' crapolade
gribble: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu if you do musl rotor correctly, after stripping the elf you get a roughly 4M bin.
mircea_popescu: ah what a pleasant day in the resistance.
asciilifeform: in the ml
mircea_popescu: i suppose we'll have to restate the genesis huh
asciilifeform: presently buildroot fetches crud from the net
asciilifeform: and will go on the magic cd
mircea_popescu: when one executes v-magic upon the genesis patch one must end up with a ready-to-go bitcoin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform besides the point tho.
asciilifeform: mod6 had a set of instructions up for cooking rotor ab initio, but it apparently wasn't in the ml
mircea_popescu: the idea here is to get a certain result through a certain process
asciilifeform: for the rest, you need rotor or stator (your choice)
mircea_popescu: hmm, so this produces a press directory, which contains a bitcoin src, but there's no autogen.sh and how do you make this thing ?
asciilifeform: can take the patches & seals from my tarball, which is self-contained
mircea_popescu: so far the mirror list consists of trb site.
mircea_popescu: apparently it has a mirror list and then an init command.
asciilifeform: the seals
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where did you get the sigs and patches ?
mircea_popescu: so /me gives new girl task to press v, half hour ago. other than the url issue above, "hey what sigs should i put in here ?"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-12-2015#1349605 << libc. there are multiple usable implementations thereof
asciilifeform: anyway drepper was drepper 20 yrs ago. today there are new dreppers. tomorrow there will be yet other dreppers.
pete_dushenski wonders where bounty on drepper's head is if wuille is worth the trouble
asciilifeform: the one i had to kludge around to get 'v' to work reasonably
asciilifeform: iirc he is even responsible for the retardation of gnu diff
asciilifeform: there are drepperisms on your box, whatever it might be, virtually guaranteed.
asciilifeform: with the single most... illustrious record
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: lol i remember ulrich, musta glanced over his name when skimming for recognisables. now i see him there too.