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mircea_popescu: honestly, to me all this sorta stuff, much like the "eu legislation" on "contaminated animal productS" ie, edible cheese, is a case of derpy dudes thinking chickens come out of the supermarket.
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saifedean: it's sad that your physicist friends havent read alchemists, but i'm gonna go ahead and guess that's sad for them, not for the alchemists... here's a list of actual aclhemists, imagine where you'd be without their contributions to your life!
saifedean: Isaac Newton was an alchemist primarily, physics and chemistry were the languages he used to speak to the plebs
saifedean: yes asciilifeform, there is, by the sort of people who invented basically all the science and knowledge that got us out of swimming in our own shit in the jungle!
mircea_popescu: anyway, i was discussing whether raw milk is interesting or not. it's interesting, to me, because lol.
saifedean: can't remember the post, but it stuck with me and has saved me plenty of time by always ignoring arguments from people hostile to things they don't know... mainly bitcoin and health, funnily enough
asciilifeform: there is a surprisingly rich set of literature in... alchemy
saifedean: weren't you the one who wrote a post about how dumb it is to be hostile to things you do not know about?
saifedean: the internet has that somewhere, too
saifedean: Weston Price traveled the world for decades observing different cultures and their foods and examining the link with health and degeneration... pretty startling stuff
asciilifeform: phun phakt: the 'antivax' hippie folk won in usa west coast. where there are now pandemics of crippling nasties (rubella, etc) last seen in 1940s
saifedean: yeah they do
saifedean: it's a travesty that he's been completely forgotten... he's basically the Mises of nutrition
mircea_popescu: they do a lot of diary in lebanon don't they ?
mircea_popescu: anyway, all these nitwits that aren't from cattle country don't know wtf milk is, even.
saifedean: among many other wars, yes!
mircea_popescu: isnt that the chick at war with the fda over the whole raw milk thing ?
mircea_popescu: and yes i talk to economists. as it happens the brightest mind in banking alive today is from my old country.
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saifedean: and they can't pay them if they deviate from the script...
saifedean: appreciate the faith in your clinician, but don't listen to those guys if you're having a child of your own, they're not in it for your benefit, they have med school loans to pay
saifedean: of course the medical bezzle is always happy to oblige with "conditions"
mircea_popescu: looky, i appreciate the youthful activist and half-doctor approach, but srsly, talk to an actual clinician. it doesn't always work. it sucks that it doesn't, it's maybe overreported, it's often just fancies in the woman's head, but not always. sometimes it dun work.
saifedean: she's got to actively fuck it up for her to not breastfeed... look at all real world examples, and you find a woman who ate shit, or who had a caesarian and didn't bother try breastfeeding for a few days, or as is usually the case, a woman who just can't be bothered and came up wiht a story
mircea_popescu: or whether she has a tyroid condition. or cystic ovaries. or or or.
saifedean: and of course, a big, big part of this is diet, what the mom eats before, during, and after pregnancy
saifedean: inaccurate analogy, since she's another human. but if her body can carry a baby for 9 months, and if she eats well and takes care of herself, she will get milk
saifedean: the problems of breastfeeding all come from the mom not being given the child to breastfeed immediately
saifedean: if she can get pregnant, she can breastfeed, it's all part of the same package
saifedean: the child should learn to latch onto the tit before anything else. In the fucking bezzle they give them the pacifier before the tit, and then they'll never latch properly... which happily enough creates endless business for Gerber and other peddlers of poison
mircea_popescu: not all women actually can breastfeed altogether.
saifedean: breastfeeding in the first hour is essential for the child and for the mom's breasts, it's part of the birth process
saifedean: but the interventionist bezzle logic we have all come to know and love from economics is applied with vigor at birth, producing mentally, physically and emotionally stunted idiots ready for the modern world's demands
saifedean: all of which is not just unnecessary, but actively harmful. the child needs absolutely nothing in their first hours except their mom's milk. They need nothing for the first 6 months except her milk and sunshine
mircea_popescu: o yeah, the whole first day vaccination business is both novel and outrageous.
saifedean: and then, the coup de grace, they give him a little sugar in the first hour to drug him and stop him crying from being separated from his mom while they do all the bezzle they wanna do
saifedean: also, the post-birth interventions they do in the medical bezzle are astonishing... within an hour or so, the baby wil have had a vaccine against Hepatitis B, which I guess makes sense if you intend to pimp the child out in the first week. they'll give them an eye drop to protect against the possibility of the mom having chlamydia, regardless of whether she has it or not, thus destroying the child's vision for a few days..
saifedean: the stuff you learn will blow your mind
mircea_popescu: there can't be enough fucking ambulances.
mircea_popescu: who the fuck goes to the maternity ward in an ambulance ?!
saifedean: this for me is the difference between the barbarian and civilized humans today: the civilized have the time and choice to wait on the placenta to empty into the baby. The barbarians are told by the doctor the placenta should be cut immediately
saifedean: and most brutally, the fucking doctor wanting to go home quickly means he'll cut the umbilical chord immediately, suffocating the child and depriving him of about a third of his blood
saifedean: they'll whisk her in an ambulance and freak the shit out of her, causing her vagina to contract just when it needs to expand. this then necessitates painful pushing, which usually doesn't work, necessitating cutting up and stitching, the baby comes out bloody and bruised and the woman can't breastfeed for hours, which will then destroy the baby's ability to latch properly
mircea_popescu: but anyway. natural birth has a huge following in the states. almost unknown in yurp.
saifedean: all the complications of birth come precisely from the medical bezzle trying to barge in on this natural process to make a buck, basically
saifedean: essentially: if a woman is left on her own in a comfortable setting with the father, her body will do all the work and pop the baby out painlessly and even pleasurably, the baby comes out healthy and looks for the tit to feed, it stays connected to the umbilical chord and placenta for a few days, the placenta empties all the nutrients and blood into the baby, and the baby grows healthy
saifedean: trying to give birth in hospital makes as much sense as trying to have sex there
mircea_popescu: and the internet has ruined people's idea of what makes good storytelling. don't summarize, be specific.
saifedean: the bezzle has completely destroyed people's conception of what birth is
saifedean: well, not quite, there's a surprisingly large amount of stuff to do, learn, and decide if you choose not to hand over the entire process to the medical bezzle
mircea_popescu: well... the woman's expecting. you're just reading.
saifedean: it's not the most exciting place in the world, but it's across the river from detroit, which stands as a constant reminded that shit could be worse
saifedean: well, the wife is due to deliver our first child in the next month or so, and we decided to come give birth here where my in-laws are, ensuring the girl gets the Canadian passport
mircea_popescu: who the fuck lives in ontario for the winter and in damascus for the civil war.
saifedean: unfortunately i'm not there for the next few months, moved to Windsor, Ontario, of all fucking places, the exact opposite of Lebanon if ever there was one
saifedean: people hating each other and religious wars escalating everywhere... but... you know... the party must go on
saifedean: lebanon is as it always is, mundanely on the precipice of exploding
mircea_popescu: but yeh, nice script you got there trinque
mircea_popescu: ahaha what the fuck "or true"
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ben_vulpes: fix << meaning address the failed targets?
trinque: ben_vulpes: I'll probably not throw another onto the mailing list before fixing the boost build
ben_vulpes: ping me when you have new makefiles, i'm going to remap keys and engage in other weeding-type activities on this machine
ben_vulpes: gotcha, okay, starting to see how this all fits together.
trinque: then it'd be make BUILDER=openbsd SHA512=sha512
trinque: ben_vulpes: and in fact if the buildroot step were stuck inside Makefile.rotor, it'd be trivial to have a Makefile.openbsd aside it
trinque: at least pulling the deps/shit works with make SHA512=sha512
ben_vulpes: that'd be it then.
trinque: but yeah I'll add that to the tar cmd
trinque: ben_vulpes │ i already ripped the -s flag off the boost download, 'cuz i'm impatient and curious. <<
ben_vulpes: i'm talking about the gzip flag.
ben_vulpes: without, tar complains that the file uses gzip and that one must provide the `z' flag.
ben_vulpes: i already ripped the -s flag off the boost download, 'cuz i'm impatient and curious.
trinque: ben_vulpes: that's one of the knobs
ben_vulpes: trinque: is there a reason verify.mk uses `SHA512' instead of `sha512'?
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mircea_popescu: this is rank nonsense. for one thing, the cro-magnon did it, not some obscure "african".
mircea_popescu: North Asia took the nuclear winter in stride, as they were cold-adapted. By 70,000-40,000 years ago one particular group of Africans produced some killer genius whose genes are in us all. The Neanderthals were wiped out soon thereafter at the peak of a nasty ice age that they were best suited to deal with. They were murdered."
mircea_popescu: "If I might compress a quarter-million years into a paragraph: For hundreds of thousands of years mankind developed along three paths, the African, the Neanderthal and the Disnovian. 74,000 years ago the Toba Super Eruption occurred, causing a six-year nuclear winter, which wiped out all but a couple thousand lucky Africans. I don’t know anything about the Disnovians. I do know that the Neanderthals across Europe and
mircea_popescu: "Being a race traitor, yet still tolerated by my pale fellows, I thought it was the least I could do." << how'd he get that ? fucked a black chick ? or what's racely treasonable activity ?
mircea_popescu: "1/1/00 -- Despite Patriot expectations that the millennial date change will bring martial law or massive social collapse, nothing of the kind occurs."
mircea_popescu: "10/13/99 -- Members of the Southern Indiana Regional Militia meet with FBI agents as part of a government effort to defuse tensions between Patriots and officialdom."
asciilifeform: and the common-mathematics O(N) factorizer kit
mircea_popescu: 3/17/98 -- Two former New York City police officers become the last of 14 NYPD officers to be convicted in a tax evasion scheme. The two sold tax evasion kits from Patriot groups to other officers for up to $2,000 each.
asciilifeform: sold right next to the common-medicine magical cure-all kit
mircea_popescu: o hey, is William Pierce actually the model for the old dude in american history x ?
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asciilifeform: mats ^ other usa jurist types
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asciilifeform discovered the other day that $rupturefarm has a very spiffy library. quite comparable to his own, at least on scientific subjects
BingoBoingo wondering if a catalytic cap for a lead acid battery valves would have the same function on FeNi
asciilifeform: nah they make'em by sticking forks into young people
mircea_popescu: i thought old people stole all the batteries they used.
BingoBoingo: Also all the money I'm saving that can be put towards expenses like HODL, thermal grease, and batteries
asciilifeform: another horse.
BingoBoingo: Can't you plug it into the computer?
asciilifeform: i'm a good way towards the naggum already.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's the dilemma, isn't it : either die of ulcer like naggum or try and supress the nausea of being still alive with these schmucks all around like graham.
asciilifeform: well then mircea_popescu can wait potentially indefinite time until we make a horse out of toothpicks.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and lo it came to pass that one man had sons, which he met because some women he knew introduced them. and those sons presently came upon him and said father, give us warhorses so we may be warriros, for you are a warrior yourself! and the man said better go and capture horses, for i am a warrior and i will soon die, and who'll give you warhorses then ?
mircea_popescu: you know im righthere
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mircea_popescu: "6/18/94 -- Common-law ideologue Brian Knoff is surreptitiously recorded discussing a planned marijuana-smuggling operation through Cuba that he hopes will help to fund other Patriot activists."
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BingoBoingo: How the American left frames the history of anti-hippies which actually stretches back to the late 60's https://archive.is/sKIoB
BingoBoingo: And Rush Limbaugh is selling Identity theft protection and Cloud backup storage
mircea_popescu: apparently the guy also came up with the theory japan bombed oklahoma because the us dumped sarin in tokyo ?
BingoBoingo: Compare that to the current US "alt-right" with its "Oath Keepers", MLM-scammers like Glenn Beck, and media social engineering like Trump
mircea_popescu: there we go.
mircea_popescu: "was the armed militia of the American colonies whose own efforts ultimately led to the establishment of the United States of America! While some say that the right to keep and bear arms is granted to Americans by the Constitution, just the opposite is true : the existence of the federal government is granted by the citizens bearing arms, under limits set forth in the constitution"
mircea_popescu: " If this were to happen, the state would assert itself as the principle of the contract making the people the agents."
BingoBoingo: So this is the Idaho group that is doing the perimeter thing http://www.iiipercentidaho.org/
mircea_popescu: let congo and ghana go their separate ways already.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing doesn't belong together anyway, it's like "the nation of africa" over there.
BingoBoingo: In the 1990's this was serious USG concern during first Clitler administration between Ruby Ridge, Waco, and Michigan Militia
mircea_popescu: almost as good as the 10 year reunion of athlethic highschools.
mircea_popescu: old ex-military dudes hanging around with the beers talking about shit ?
mircea_popescu: not saying by any means that you're wrong or anything, i'm not from there.
BingoBoingo: Well, for tsmr's history more effort was directed towards understanding USG social engineering with the power rangers than the various US patriot militias.
mircea_popescu: the problem with this theory is that it has very low predictive power.
BingoBoingo: Other role they take is as they did in Ferguson as USG sanctioned popular antagonist. They served as foil to both police and protestors .
BingoBoingo: In the linked letter to Ammon Bundy, nothing yet. Oatherkeepers SOP seems to be sound reasonable until Eric Holder drone strike panic. 1. Build trust 2. Glass Cannon panic 3. ??? 4. Profit
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo state this for my benefit. so how and wherefore what the guy said is stoolie gambit ?
asciilifeform: aha, printed right on the box
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> incidentall, 'oathkeepers' is a social club for usg soldiers << this is not unlike saying that incidentally, the guy that shot sadat was from the egyptian military.
asciilifeform: think for a minute, about the wisdom of a pre-existing public list of commanders who 'promise not to fire on the crowd'
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BingoBoingo: Also their agitation in Ferguson, etc
asciilifeform: it's supposed to be an org for usg soldiers who swear not to fire on the crowd
asciilifeform: no, this is explicitly printed on the box
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> incidentall, 'oathkeepers' is a social club for usg soldiers << Seems to be common knowledge in the actual patriot circles
BingoBoingo: Seriously these people need to learn to internet
mircea_popescu: which is why the soviets were an invasion, not a revolution.
asciilifeform: the 'revolution', when it takes over a solitary foodless shithole, also needs baggage train.
mircea_popescu: the invasion needs a baggage train.
mircea_popescu: well that's the difference between a revolution and an invasion.
BingoBoingo: Anyways at this point I have concerns about the Oregon liberation's ability so sustain itself in the way the Bundy ranch defense has.
mircea_popescu: reading the piece you linked.
mircea_popescu: nono i mean, as far as the bundys, hammonds etc are concerned
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> why not heal the representativity issue ? << needs ben_vulpes for that
mircea_popescu: why not heal the representativity issue ?
mircea_popescu: "For the Republic, Stewart Rhodes Founder and President of Oath Keepers" <<< lol check out that guy
BingoBoingo: Not yet. You know, this may be an occasion to use the Trilema job board.
BingoBoingo: My present dilemma is if I recieve any plaintext from Oregon liberators over the wire, there is an extreme possibility of it actually being a Preet
asciilifeform: 'the unfounded belief that whitey couldn't possibly have figured out your genius, Allah-inspired "idea". The ungrounded belief that all those other kids that stayed in school rather than quit at age 8 learned nothing at all for their trouble. The firm conviction that you can hide behind your finger.'
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mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> they, just as isis, would dismiss it as intellectual-claptrap <<< you don;t know what the girl says UNTIL YOU ASK HER OUT.
asciilifeform: to the spartan, thinking is verboten
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> they, just as isis, would dismiss it as intellectual-claptrap << Could probably be sold on "keeping Obama out" angle
asciilifeform: they, just as isis, would dismiss it as intellectual-claptrap
BingoBoingo: It would be nice if someone in WoT near there would go over and do a GPG keysigning party
shinohai wonders if they have a GPG key by now ...
BingoBoingo: And if they were I'd still be suspicous
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i take it they ain't answering emails ?
mircea_popescu: would be great if someone who lived there.
BingoBoingo: Anyone want to do a piece on the latest Oregon for qntra?
mircea_popescu: anyone taking bets on whether "queergendered", fat, on govt dole and in ny ?
mircea_popescu: "get off my lawn you damn dirty apes. i think there will be arguments for years about the wisdom of emboldening these white power, white privilege self serving outlaws or letting them disperse on their own to be picked up later for prosecution. i think the worst case scenario would be letting them off with a guarantee of no criminal charges they should face a range of charges from littering to treason."
mircea_popescu: also, sam destefano has been dead for longer than the internet's been a thing.
asciilifeform: 'Crazy like a fox. They are Gubment spooks or assets. Most are collecting military disability and ole Mammon has got a nice half million dollar loan from the SBA. Nobody is dumb enough to challenge Mad Dog Sam. Use your brains for once! Dictatorship is here, with this nice little false flag rebellion to usher it in.'
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BingoBoingo: In other news more hamplanets turning on Beetus Christ https://archive.is/DOpqe
asciilifeform: and the inevitable question, 'who gave these people a cpu?'
mircea_popescu: and wd40 is not a great thermocouple agent, but also not as bad as air is.
mircea_popescu: the wonder of socialist governments - making the cheapo ersatz something to aspire to.
mircea_popescu: i doubt there's anything vegetal in us mayo.
asciilifeform: leaving the heatsink off also works until doesn't
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: vegetable matter as lubrication (much less thermal, wtf, l0l) is atrociously braindamaged
BingoBoingo: Nah, gotta sue to even establish the winnings are winnings.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well the part where getting big lottery payouts from illinois would involve litigation. Even in the games where the jackpot is pooled with other states. Winning ticket would mean potential for you to sue and force state governments to sue each other.
mircea_popescu: and wjhat's the collection lulz ?
BingoBoingo: Anyone want an Illinois lottery powerball ticket for tonight's 900 million dollar drawing, for the potential collection lulz?
BingoBoingo: The answer was apparently not only does it not last, it oxidizes the interface surfaces.
BingoBoingo: "Back in 2011, we tested mayonnaise as a thermal interface between the CPU and the base of the cooler. Amazingly, it worked nicely, proving to be, at least in a short term, a better thermal compound than several well-known commercial products. But, at the time, we could not determine how long it would continue to work before a degradation in performance was noted."
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asciilifeform: the upload failed a couplea times too
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mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> It talks and proposes soft forks and apparently eats a bunch of USD VC money from god knows where << yeah. none of this counts for anything. and i have nfi why they'd get any amount of vote in any discussion re bitcoin.
asciilifeform: the thing that you get !
BingoBoingo: Oh, their the new power rangers
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo try as i might, i can't fucking recall who the fuck is "blockstream"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the node that was talking to them was 105-112 blocks behind main chain yesterday.
asciilifeform: (new in the selfsigs sense ONLY!!)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> yeah, until karpeles lied about an imaginary cause of stealing people's bitcoin, the other dudes working on wrecking bitcoin didn't have a good excuse. hurr durr. << Blockstream people nao complain too, because their off chain doo dad apparently won't work if any malleability on their transactions is possibru
asciilifeform: the others - less.
assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 13:18:42; mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform is dulap significantly (~100 blocks) behind the chain ?
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BingoBoingo: ;;later tell gabriel_laddel Xenorcara, the OBSD X server man pages should be a start
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mircea_popescu: turns out centralisation helps when it's a case of "well bitbet goes to mp and mp runs a lot of other things and so... nope." people who only run one thing have it a lot worse.
mircea_popescu: there's a thing about centralisation in that, i suspect.
mircea_popescu: that takes care of ~150 of the ~700 btc that bitbet's been delayed in paying. we will be getting through the rest during the remainder of today.
mircea_popescu: sooo... acthung panzers, asciilifeform ben_vulpes mod6 : it is certain beyond any conceivable doubt the trb nodes are isolated - both the publicly advertised ones and at least one not publicly advertised, because lo! what used to be tx e6b8aa9dedef74a7e8961e0d997aebc35aae3c8e762a715336d84b39507c9773 has not only been successfully broadcast but it got malleated, and is now included in the chain as c29e162c79144ced3e827
shinohai: thestringpuller: what platform you compiling on?
thestringpuller: "killed by SIGILL" which is the result from illegal instruction
thestringpuller: http://dpaste.com/1KFEQ7B.txt << strace results leading up to the crash
thestringpuller: well before I recompile the whole damn thing, lemme see what strace brings to the surface
thestringpuller: how far does the rabbit hole go?
mircea_popescu: normally i'd say no, but the stuff we've been seeing... dunno anymore.
thestringpuller: (the one i'm using)
thestringpuller: i'm compiling on the same machine I'm running it on. did the whole stator+rotor build here
mircea_popescu: (this extends all the way to all the libraries involved, obv.)
mircea_popescu: alternatively : have you done the noob mistake of compiling for / on one platform, and trying to run on another ?
mircea_popescu: the codebase does include some choice asm bits if memory serves.
jurov: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/makefile.unix#0074 thestringpuller looks like it's already there, so just remove strip from stator.sh
mircea_popescu: that';s not really how it goes thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: s +- 100. i think it can be safely concluded that the number they report is simply a marketing gimmick, not connected to anything.
mircea_popescu: heh derpy okcupid. it has this tab that goes "98 visitors average per week". meanwhile they only keep track of the ~100 most recent visitors. the oldest is from 5:59 am, today. the most recent from 8:57 am, also today. so in about 3 hours i get 100, but "on average" during a week i get 98. it's been pretty much like this for at least two weeks now, give or take 5k a week average each day, which they've been reporting a
thestringpuller: grrrr. there should be a "debug" version of the compilation process script
thestringpuller: jurov: do I change this in the make file?
jurov: thestringpuller yes you have to recompile with -g or -ggdb. and not just bitcoin itself but all the libs
mircea_popescu: not going into the details of "if you don't know how to tie a woman, don't try and wing it for the derpy fishwrap that hired you because 'who'd ever know'. people know."
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-01-2016#1363995 << that's the sort of poky hipbone i dun like!
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assbot: Logged on 09-01-2016 09:38:41; gabriel_laddel: phf: I've browsed through it, but didn't find what I was looking for. Perhaps if I state my problem someone will know what I need. The goal is to 'fold' the whole notion of X client / server directly into CL function calls. I would like details of how *exactly* X talks to the hardware (Cee sources, yeah) and a large, obvious table as to what all the error codes / X requests are.
mircea_popescu: punkman but it's not necessarily surprising seeing the orphanage burner patch.
mircea_popescu: hey asciilifeform is dulap significantly (~100 blocks) behind the chain ?
punkman: it does seem that if e6b8aa9ded was indeed in mempool, the error wouldn't say "not found e6b8aa9ded"
mircea_popescu: possibly they are, i dunno. even so, they discuss two different things.
punkman: thought those were 3 continuous lines from the logz
mircea_popescu: now, there MAY be something broken in there somewhere, but i'm not tooled to chase it.
mircea_popescu: since it is questioned about the tx and sends the tx, it necessarily knows about the tx
punkman: oic, I'll stop derping then
punkman: maybe another silent netsplit?
mircea_popescu: you prolly should re-read the discussion.
punkman: all I saw was the tx getting rejected in debug.logz
mircea_popescu: punkman we know for a fact everyone in trb DOES have it in their mempool, actually.
punkman: mircea_popescu: likely nobody has e6b8aa9ded in their mempool
mircea_popescu: mno, they accepted one and rejected the rest (which is unsurprising for trb, seeing how the rest were chained on the one)
punkman: mircea_popescu: i've been broadcasting it all night to the trb nodes, you can ask any of them, they should still have it in the memory. << they seem to be rejecting it, so maybe pastebin the raw transaction
mircea_popescu: "... then we'd be out of what we hope to be a very good job". welcome to the exact reason why we accepted "intellectual property" in the first place. and now here we sit, both with the problem unresolved and with the massive infrastructure of the not-working fix for it in place. hurr durr, i wonder what's the problem with western civilisation. it must be the womenz fucking niggaz!

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