asciilifeform: thestringpuller: absolutely not
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: trb compilation detects machine architecture when building right? so build on machine run on same machine. or do I have to configure some flag for the machine I'm compiling + running on?
mircea_popescu: adlai> but do we really want to go full wottard? << stop with the "we", and yes we do.
mats: (which iirc is the one with sata dock)
mircea_popescu: <adlai> fwiw utxo set size grows indefinitely, whatever the block size. someday it grows larger than the largest affordable RAM, even for mircea_popescus <<< this was discussed here a number of times, actually.
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
mircea_popescu: sciilifeform> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1365773 << pogo is a 32-bit arm-v << yeah that's the why. but it ran on a desktop.
adlai: "any WoT can grow large enough to accomodate two people who wish to slit each others' throats"
trinque: why would the utxo set always have to live in ram?
asciilifeform: generally you will see this in trb if you built for $machine but you have $othermachine.
adlai: fwiw utxo set size grows indefinitely, whatever the block size. someday it grows larger than the largest affordable RAM, even for mircea_popescus
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:43:46; adlai: let them spend a little more. let them scam an ISP off a half-decent-shitware-router. idc.
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-01-2016#1365805 << incidentally, i surveyed all known routers on the market. all have severe ram constraint (very few better than pogo, costliest have perhaps 512m) and no sata, ever
trinque: propose a better way to get a large number of trb nodes in the wild
asciilifeform: before a single tx lands in the pool
asciilifeform: adlai: if you keep up with the ml - you will know that block index alone is >150M on warmup
adlai: oh we should strive to meet it, there's no reason not to. utxo-in-memory is retardation, nothing more to it.
asciilifeform: we never met the 128M target.
adlai: let's not all run the same brick.
asciilifeform: adlai: find me another comp with GB ethernet and SATA that can be bought for under $20.
ben_vulpes: i still don't see how that error would cause the script to not run strip bitcoind
assbot: Logged on 11-01-2016 01:32:44; mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: where in the code
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: i meant in building up process/configuration. behaving like two different robots completely, rather than robot with different body running same brain
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wai wut?! where is there sprintf
asciilifeform: thestringpuller: there is such a thing as cpu arch. gotta build for the hardware you have.
ben_vulpes: interestingly enough the output from static_bitcoin_only.sh stops at "warning: warning: sprintf() is often misused, please use snprintf()" but then never runs the subsequent 'strip bitcoind' line in static_bitcoin_only.sh
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: i recall hav ing a 32 bit trb made to work at some point, but not the specifics
ben_vulpes: nearly all of the tooling on the ml and scattered throughout the logs assumes 64-bit compilation environments.
mircea_popescu: or did you make the os 32 and trb 64 ?
ben_vulpes: i installed a /thirty-two/ bit operating system over the past weekend. on a 64-bit box.
asciilifeform: traffic's gone through the floor.
ben_vulpes: rather nifty, asciilifeform.
ben_vulpes: while compiling trb either on various linux or an openbsd?
ben_vulpes: has anyone ever seen something along the lines of "Need an operator in 'STATIC' (makefile.unix:12)"
mircea_popescu: more dominant mother doesn't necessarily make worse mother (excepting for crazy outliers known in literature as schizogenic). it's true she has a tougher time for the first few years, but then once there's teenagers in the house... you'll love every cannon you got.
mircea_popescu: for the first few years at any rate.
ben_vulpes: servility and submission go hand in hand, and are very important attributes for performing wifedom and motherhood well.
mircea_popescu: you kidding me, these doods be multiplyin' like rabbits. i think there's more b-a kids than there's b-a adults.
thestringpuller: is there a thread on "generational WoT", when we are all old and gray who takes up the helm?
mircea_popescu: in this sense the whole thing would be reminescent of how nipples work.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear, but it may be the case that the mechanism is coopted in their sexual activity and becomes part of what drives child rearing. so they got a deliberate leak and it never fills.
adlai: it's not a camp if the campers don't Exist
adlai: are there open-source bots which i can read like you pretend to read the bible, and rape like mircea_popescu pretends to rape his slaves?
adlai has other btc-denominated offers, starting tomorr,w ish?
davout: there's a difference between giving something to someone who wants it, and giving something to someone who doesn't
mircea_popescu: no dude, the v patch genesis.
adlai: your mom genesised, you just talked from there
mircea_popescu: didn't i make the genesis ?!
mircea_popescu: yeah totally, you can run an eulora client, desperate need for more noobs there.
mircea_popescu: davout really ? because why, i'm short tits and they have economic utility ?
mircea_popescu: not like there isn't stuff to do.
mircea_popescu: adlai if you can code, you can actually help the trb people. if you can't code, you can try an' help BingoBoingo, who's coinstantly asking. or else offend copypaste by rewriting trilema as best you can. or etc.
adlai: or try and help the poor idiots
mircea_popescu: <davout> adlai: it's the same kind of stupidity you'll find in "oh, i'll give away some bitcoin for xmas" << i maintain that my "give a little btc to eager young sluts" beats this "give a little more btc to people you know or are related to that don't want it" by a factor of infinity.
adlai: so? do i sit around lazy, waiting to instagram the next missionary's #btcConversionFail ?
mircea_popescu: adlai nobody's trying to convince anyone. i also don't go around watering holes in africa trying to convince the animals to drink./
thestringpuller: adlai: but wouldn't this mean that person had it "within themselves" to be saved in the first place?
adlai: thestringpuller: but therein lies the rub. everywhere you go, you'll meet the exception that proves this rule.
davout: adlai: it's the same kind of stupidity you'll find in "oh, i'll give away some bitcoin for xmas"
adlai: seriously though, it's an edifying exercise to try and convince self-professed "btc people" that it's not worth their time to convince "non-self-professed btc people" (by my words, this time) to save via btc
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller you're thinking "devout\"
assbot: Logged on 17-11-2015 01:21:47; mircea_popescu: if you can buy bitcoin on credit in the us and ARE NOT buying bitcoin on credit in the us, you are being raped by all the people who do.
mircea_popescu: this is a very valid point. through the presence of an actual save mechanism, insane expenditure becomes less tenable. this is actually not unrelated to the discussion re how "the world" aka western cragmire ends. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=17-11-2015#1325573
davout: this whole chan sounds like the bible
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: saw this on reddit and was surprised "Even 1000 euros feel too much to spent for a much needed new laptop instead of getting some BTC Am I mad?" to which someone replied "And this is why some economists fear Bitcoin -- as expenditures will become more sane. If that laptop made you much more productive, you would still choose to make that purchase rather than saving. But it seems you don't really need that new la
mircea_popescu: incidentally, this seems a deeply ignored point, all sorts of okcupid chicks honestly expect they'll be entertained just because well... they exist. ridoinculous.
adlai: for their souls.
mircea_popescu: i never convinced a woman to be my slave, either.
adlai is belaboring under the apprehension that mircea_popescu may have never tried to personally convince somebody poor - incredibly so! - to hoard btc
mircea_popescu: the poor in all times and places belong on a conveyor belt towards a woodchipper. it is however very important to have a readily accessible door out of the tunnel, for any thinking folk who accidentally fell in.
mircea_popescu: adlai you're not belabouring under the misapprehension that i expect all to be saved, are you ? the point is not that. the point is for there to be a way for the scant few who don't belong there to save themselves.
adlai has friends who can't afford to save bitcoin, because they buy useless shit (incl drugs, and music, and fancy food, etc) instead of "paying themselves first"
mircea_popescu: that bitcoin allows the poor a venue to actually accumulate capital is really all that matters, for the well being of the world generally.
mircea_popescu: that is the only social function poor people actually need : a path out of poverty.
mircea_popescu: not so. it is extremely useful : it allows them to save.
mircea_popescu: "I stuck it on a github repo, which includes a tarball of the code with detached signature. You can also grab it as a vpatch with seal if you like. You might see some nodes reporting version 77777; that's what it will claim to be if you run it without modification."
mircea_popescu: hahaha check thios dude out : "Some of you may be aware of a project called "therealbitcoin" and some of its development history. Over the last few days I forked the project, dropped in the woodcoin genesis block, genesis merkle root, the skein woodcutting algorithm, the logarithmic supply curve, the relevant difficulty adjust parameters, and the magic header code:"
assbot: La Florida and other places on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1mOvRnf )
mircea_popescu: what they like it for - to save in, as per http://trilema.com/2014/la-florida-and-other-places/#selection-109.0-109.542 - is readily satisfied by trb as it is.
mircea_popescu: the demand for bitcoin usage from poor people remains scant.
gribble: The operation succeeded.
adlai: ;;later tell copypaste fwiw, I'm fully in favor of segregated witness being implemented and available for those who see fit to use it. the main problem is one of education; users need to understand that there's bitcoin, and there's anyonecanspend-witcoin
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: exactly. and they probably are saying to themselves secretly "oh tmsr will fix it"
asciilifeform: the unfortunate thing is that merely ignoring prb has not worked. now there is ecological cleanup work to be done.
mircea_popescu: well that's the only fucking end result when illiterate people get involved in "fixing" shit they didn't read.
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: there is this comic called "The Boys" where superheroes are just a thing. Anyhow super heroes cause more trouble than what it's worth. To solve one problem the fuck up 100 other things, so "The Boys" are sent in to keep the peace. I've realized the power rangers do exactly that. Very public displays of "whatever fix", which ends up breaking 50 other things that have to eventually be fixed.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: has the best PC pr0n.
mircea_popescu: computer science is taught by the math dept.
mircea_popescu: in particular, it's why calorimetric theory was unverifiable. and so on.
mircea_popescu: this was the exact description of a "bad math" situation htroughout the history of science.
asciilifeform: on state of the art $maxint simulator.
asciilifeform: in practice, the errors compound and magnify into near-useless soup.
mircea_popescu: i don't need it to answer absolutely. i just need it to reduce by a factor of 10^20 rather than by a factor of maybe 10^3
asciilifeform: they soak up infinite cpu.
ben_vulpes: http://astro.temple.edu/~meister/Schafmeister_group_website/Research.html << so, another usgscam?
asciilifeform: there are eh-maybe-somewhat-usable heuristics
asciilifeform: for fuckssake, there is not even a closed-form solution for ONE MOTHERFUCKING LITHIUM ATOM
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i have no interest in designing molecular structures myself. i am mostly interested in simulating the interactions of easily-procured precursors in lots and lots of sims, varying lots and lots of variables in the sim, in order to crap out eg simple logic gates
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the general lack of personal integrity in the angloworld is quite the sad spectacle, huh.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 20:15:26; BingoBoingo: Did this Kristov Atlas fellow ever have a presence in either WoT, this is the stupid sort of twitter rambling that demands an ideological negrate https://archive.is/fIuTA
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365485 << atlas is famous chiefly for his crazy. i dunno that anyone'd take the stuff seriously. think tardstalk's own vexual.
asciilifeform: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/01/10/1532209/crypto-guru-david-chaums-private-communications-network-comes-with-a-backdoor << nah. ~the~ chaum.
mircea_popescu: i am rather flattered, honestly.
gribble: David Chaum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chaum>; David Chaum: <http://www.chaum.com/>; How DigiCash Blew Everything - Cryptome: <https://cryptome.org/jya/digicrash.htm>
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365472 << am i the only guy left that doesn't know who the fuck this was ?
asciilifeform: the one problem might be that mining selects for idiocy
asciilifeform: incidentally a gossipd which conducts tcp pipes would at least threaten to begin to formalize the hierarchy.
mircea_popescu: the dns derps keep going on about how important and bla bla they are - but by comparison they're 13yo's at the beach, making sandcastles.
thestringpuller: i dunno if this is case, cause not like miners publicize their nodes (or maybe they do, i'm still investigating)
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i was just saying if miners receive tx's to mine via PRB code then it'll isolate
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller "running prb" is not being a miner.
thestringpuller: if miner nodes are running prb, they'll isolate too
asciilifeform: but it ~is~ the case
mircea_popescu: the contrary situation is aptly known as "isolated"
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it shouldn't be the case that you're connected exclusively to prb nodes.
thestringpuller: Basically all "new" PRB-nodes will refuse to relay high-S tx's to the network. Miners will still mine them though. But interesting that a high-s transaction has high probability to get fellated and malleated by network before being mined.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, other panzerz ^^
asciilifeform: this, i strongly suspect, resolves the mega-mystery.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 19:45:08; BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed that, to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using their network, the researchers behind this initiative are planning to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
BingoBoingo right now just wondering on the holy grail of sealed FeNi batteries which would make wizard tower pissibru
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: More than any dietary change, avoiding morbid Obeasts will materially improve your health. Give it a try for 30 day, see the improvement in your life.
BingoBoingo: Seriously Obeasts are only a hazard to themselves? Does he even consider the pathogens people who can't clean their ass spread everyday as they go about sitting and leaning on public spaces.
BingoBoingo: Did this Kristov Atlas fellow ever have a presence in either WoT, this is the stupid sort of twitter rambling that demands an ideological negrate https://archive.is/fIuTA
asciilifeform: how much good from the dead murdock ?
asciilifeform: what do you suppose they did to him ?
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 19:45:08; BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed that, to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using their network, the researchers behind this initiative are planning to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
pete_dushenski: probably the same logic bobby lee used to arrive at the 'must have 2mb blocks' conclusion
pete_dushenski: in other 'how would you know' nyooz, ""Everyone in our pool is making money, because people who aren't making money would not have their machines turned on," BTCC's Lee said."
pete_dushenski: i thought the whole 'maker' thing woulda died when 3d printing didn't put home depot out of business in 12 months flat. guess not eh
ben_vulpes is operating under a severe cognition deficit today. weird bugs in the blood.
pete_dushenski: "The bitcoin infrastructure is excellent, secure, and powerful in the abstract. In practice it is useless… but not for long." << try death warrants with paypal.
pete_dushenski: "In short, right now the bitcoin infrastructure is insufficient to support the unbanked. This must and will change. Before we begin, a bit of disclosure: I’ve been researching this for my on project, Freemit, and I’ve been talking talking to startups in this space." << so much talking
mircea_popescu: ahahah what the fuck.
BingoBoingo: Just a man, pretending to be a man, pretending to be another man.
BingoBoingo: "This council will provide access to data about users to law enforcement, but only for those who use the network for criminal activities. This council will have nine members from across the world, and all have to agree to release information about users to any government inquiring for data."
BingoBoingo: "In an interview with Wired, Mr. Chaum revealed that, to prevent cybercrime and other nefarious groups from using their network, the researchers behind this initiative are planning to create a PrivaTegrity Council."
BingoBoingo: Seems like low hanging fruit for TMSR to legitimately contribute to the advancement of the physical sciences
gribble: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: ;;later tell PeterL What kind of budget would you need to produce a paper on the sulfur chemistry of FOOF in the name of making the TMSR a contributor to cutting edge science?
BingoBoingo: May we never forget the bravest Chemistry paper in history http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja00893a004
BingoBoingo very disappoint there are no cool alternate lines being offered anywhere he can find on the Bama-Clemson game tomorrow. Wants to take Bama -13.5 or -20.5
funkenstein_: BingoBoingo, for this dwarf the bottleneck is never bandwidth or screenspace. Always my own fucking head.
funkenstein_: though now apparently they go direct without third parties
funkenstein_: <mircea_popescu> apple is a monopoly in the sense qq.com is a monopoly. you... never heard of it. <-- i was surprised to learn recently tencent was a major player in handling the exchange to fiat-bank segment for e.g. btcchina
BingoBoingo: What you want is a core of people who aren't poor relative to the rest of their USistan region. Once they make the muni-fiber jump the first few years are rough until they get addicted to uptime and buying more cables headed in different directions out of town.
pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: do you happen to have the link to that classic russian 'chukka' comic handy ? i can't find it in the logs
BingoBoingo: Oh, no I mean the transit cables, but even then no guarentee people will care to tap them >> http://rlc.edu campus runs on poin to point wireless even though near I-57 and massive cables going from Chicago to US South, because no one has will to tap cables
asciilifeform: not to mention that if it is a cable tv sort of cable, you are stuck with some of the most abominable isp monopolists in all of usaschwitz
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> this is one of the things severely limiting the appeal, from my pov, of 'cheap middle-of-nowhere' locales there << Yeah, gotta be near a cable path and all of a sudden house no longer 1/5 but 1/4 or even 1/3
asciilifeform: 'but the house cost 1/5th!11111'
asciilifeform: this is one of the things severely limiting the appeal, from my pov, of 'cheap middle-of-nowhere' locales there
mircea_popescu: some places got better connectivity than others, but overall...
mircea_popescu: well, just like africa, so is the us a big... "country".
mircea_popescu: truth be told the connectivity situation of the us is really on par with its stature in the world : african.
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, but they were going to bitchslap cox cable & co on the providing side.
asciilifeform: (who may choose to pass on your bits to another idiot if it suits his purposes, sure)
BingoBoingo: But yes, to contact them gotta go through USG dept of prisons
asciilifeform: you can only email the usg dept of prison
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: OH, some of them have EXTENSIVE facebook presences
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: in a very meaningful sense, these organizations DO NOT EXIST except in meatspace. because they have no pgp.
BingoBoingo: Excluding Oathkeepers and other known USG moles
pete_dushenski: etter off — then, or now."
pete_dushenski: http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/tom-kott-get-quebec-out-of-my-married-name << "“There is a new generation of women raised in an equal society who don’t feel threatened by men. For them, taking their husband’s name doesn’t mean living under their husband’s shadow.” Clearly, the dominance of cultural paternalism was replaced by government paternalism in this scheme, and no one has been left b
BingoBoingo: <trinque> mircea_popescu: on the hosting side bezos has eaten a lot of it, and as far as what the average derp is staring at when she thinks she's on the internet, facebook << For on this try to find the web presence of any 'Murican Militia organization
trinque: mircea_popescu: on the hosting side bezos has eaten a lot of it, and as far as what the average derp is staring at when she thinks she's on the internet, facebook
BingoBoingo: funkenstein_: Too much selenium is bad though, makes a person stink. Even thiols can't apporach the stink of selenium compounds
mircea_popescu: trinque their bid to take over internet infrastructure altogether is apparently a little stalled.
mircea_popescu: and the world will say "omfg apple is finished. what a crater."
mircea_popescu: if it sheds 99.4% oif its market cap and preserves the tiny thing you're interested in,
mircea_popescu: nobody gives a flying fuck about making desktops when discussing the apple failure.
asciilifeform: but this does not change the fact of monopoly.
asciilifeform: and the machine is 2 weeks old and already making peculiar grinding noises
asciilifeform: and yes, jobs is dead, and the hardware is going to shit, i recently spent 4 hours trying to make a deterministic model of what the 'spaces' window manager does with 3 displays active, to no avail
asciilifeform: 'mac' is, quite monopolistically, the only USABLE-for-development portable unix box presently sold, and the ios boxen - the only non-infested-five-minutes-after-uncrating pocket computers presently sold.
asciilifeform: and not the only such
mircea_popescu: i thought we were discussing the fucking ipad.
mircea_popescu: the whole thing is turdoid.
asciilifeform: it is a motherfucking monopoly.
mircea_popescu: apple is a monopoly in the sense qq.com is a monopoly. you... never heard of it.
asciilifeform: monopolies don't 'fail' in the way a corner restaurant might.
pete_dushenski: "but jobs planned out the next 5 years of products so the company is still in good hands even though he's dead"
pete_dushenski: 'cheekbones blown out'... now there's a visual.
assbot: Logged on 03-01-2016 15:23:46; mircea_popescu: thought you were smart. You still dumb. If I want to pound some butt, I could do a woman. Im a bisexual because I like to get my cheekbones blown out. I like to get pounded in the butt.
pete_dushenski: copypaste: furthermore, how'd you know that i wasn't an acultured asshole before reading trilema ? not that i deny the influence, but that's not entirely the point. the point is... how'd you know ? maybe being "mean" (or however you'd describe mp's style) is a cause of hanging around b-a, and not an effect, y'know ?
pete_dushenski: second patient knew the first
asciilifeform: at the hanging ?
mircea_popescu: no bro he got mad skills from watching the nature channel. just like all the other tardstalk ceobusinessmen
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: and after the first corpse ?
mircea_popescu: you're not about to tell me that you want random derp to be competing for heart transplant customers on the basis of marketing
pete_dushenski: waterboy is more than welcome to open his own heart transplant clinic, undercut the competition. go. do.
mircea_popescu: eh that's rank nonsense. "they" have to spend twenty fucking years training to be doing this, and "they" aren't joe blow from the gun fair.
shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365260 <<< Laughably, the BarbieOS webpage redirects now - listed for sale
funkenstein_: lling these terrified people a gallon of water for $4.00. They put them in jail for price-gouging, for selling them a gallon of water for four bucks.
funkenstein_: "The medical treatment of choice for cardio myopathy is a heart transplant, costs $750,000. I want you to think about that. They get the heart free from a donor, they get the blood free for the surgery from the relatives. They use $2.50 of suture material, and they charge you $750,000 for that procedure. Now 6 months ago in LA when they had the earthquake, they were putting people in jail for 60 and 90 days for price-gouging, for se
funkenstein_: http://www.kingmaker.net/deaddoctorstxt.html#start <-- not blanket endorsement but worth the read re: nutrition
pete_dushenski: it was flint that had the lead poisoning wasn't it ?
pete_dushenski: ^that winner'd better hope he's not drinking the tap water
pete_dushenski: "Someone is betting $40,026 on the life of a 73-year-old lottery winner in Michigan. That amount was the highest bid Thursday in an online auction for a lottery prize that pays $1,000 a month, before taxes. But here's the hitch: The money is paid only as long as Donald Magett stays alive."
pete_dushenski: lol there's always ;;later tell
copypaste: pete_dushenski: you never seem online at an opportune time for me to tell you this. i think that you should develop your own style instead of copying MP's for contravex. contravex is a cheap knockoff at best to trilema. no one can surmount the original, i wouldn't dare even try writing in MP\s signature style.
assbot: There's a one Bitcoin reward for the death of Pieter Wuille. Details below. on Trilema - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1lxiG9S )
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2016 12:29:15; copypaste: will the bitcoin foundation be accepting "segregated witness" into its client?
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-01-2016#1365031 <--> http://trilema.com/2015/theres-a-one-bitcoin-reward-for-the-death-of-pieter-wuille-details-below/
mircea_popescu: anyway, im in full agreement with the fellow on the "listen to body" angle. if one can shut up the stupid going on in his head long enough, absolutely amazing feats can be accomplished, such as knowing when to eat and what.
pete_dushenski: "Edward Archer, a computational physiologist at the University of Alabama’s Nutrition Obesity Research Center in Birmingham"
pete_dushenski: "The takeaway, Archer said, is that our bodies are adaptable and pretty good at telling us what we need, if we can learn to listen."
pete_dushenski: "So we’re left with our original question: What is a healthy diet? We know the basics — we need sufficient calories and protein to keep our bodies alive. We need nutrients like vitamin C and iron. Beyond that, we may be overthinking it"
mircea_popescu: it is bad management not to do a large number of various things that appear counter-intuitive to "intelligent" people. especially to the "civilised" metastasis thereof.
mircea_popescu: fwiw, i credit the "bad management" part a lot.
mircea_popescu: and of course, alf's favourite part, "Popular until the very end, Digital Group failed in August of 1979 due to management and parts supplier troubles, not a lack of customer interest or product orders. Co-founder Dr. Robert Suding recalled that at the time of the bankruptcy, DG had thousands of product information requests and orders waiting to be filled."