assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 15:28:39; ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371101 << l0lz!! am i the only one who gets this ref
pete_dushenski: couldn't be ! then who ? number two !
pete_dushenski: get in the wot, wouldja
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kingking190: whats the price now ?
BingoBoingo: In other news Qntra comment to post differential is now back up to 304
pete_dushenski: for the n00bs, The20YearIRCloud was (is?) the operator of https://www.havelockinvestments.com/fund.php?symbol=RENT
gribble: The20YearIRCloud was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 24 weeks, 1 day, 17 hours, 29 minutes, and 59 seconds ago: <The20YearIRCloud> Why/where?
pete_dushenski: ;;seen The20YearIRCloud
gribble: I have not seen the20yearirclous.
pete_dushenski: ;;seen the20yearirclous
gribble: I have not seen The20yearirc.
pete_dushenski: ;;seen The20yearirc
assbot: There Is No "Bitcoin 2.0" | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1JQlhWR )
BingoBoingo: Well you gotta blame the20year for that problem
pete_dushenski: (yes, wall streeters reading this, ~the~ blockchain, not "a")
pete_dushenski: speaking of 'international', just found the BingoBoingo-special : http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/652995075/overview/
pete_dushenski: that's actually reasonably fair, even if the only guy i ever knew who owned a 'cxt' was an industrial pipe-fitter or plumber or something of the sort
copypaste: or some other american rural dweller
pete_dushenski: probably "that asshole hates the environment. what a pig !"
copypaste: pete_dushenski: i've changed my opinion about you because you drive a very nice car. keep up the good work
BingoBoingo: They really should reintroduce it this year
pete_dushenski: though a few of them are still to be found on the streets around here. though a lamborghini is a more common sighting.
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 12:16:33; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370904 << in truth, engine miniaturization has proceeded to the point where this product would be marketable : a 4x4 "true" SUV with a pick-up truck option that has a 2-3 liter gasoline engine with a gpl add-on (so you can run it either on full gasoline, or do gasoline starting and run on gas) that autoswitches from powering the drive train to powering
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371076 << i just remembered that 'international' made pretty much exactly this house-towing, sidewalk-shredding, lamppost-buckling "pick-up" from 2004 - 2008. called the 'cxt' and priced right at $100k. though it weighed 7 tonnes (15k lbs), it had a 7.6l diesel engine with 220hp and 540 lb. ft. of torque and was capable of hauling or towing up to 6 tonness
pete_dushenski: mod6: these kinds of temps do indeed make for excellent ice. and though it's a bit brisk for du patinage, the ice on whyte festival is on this weekend just down the street from my place (https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=ice%20on%20whyte), for which it's -30c for every second year and +5c on the alternates. i'll bundle up and take it this way. it's sorta sad to watch the ice sculptures melting.
mod6: I've made a patch to remove high-S, added in patch, recompiled, restarted bitcoind and then sent a tx. here's what I'm looking at from a dumpblock of that tx:
mod6: <+pete_dushenski> bbias. have to move car underground. it's going to be -33c overnight... << -27.4 F, yep, that'll chill ya out. makes for pretty hard & fast ice tho. so there's the upside there.
mod6: <+BingoBoingo> Because what other ports should it have open? << you should only open incoming port 8333 when you want people to connect to your node to sync ~from you~
mircea_popescu: not like there's such a shortage of bitchslapping you're stuck using the whole chicken, feathers and all.
mircea_popescu: and incidentally : by now you've got a tell of prime order in this wordiness business. i see you can't get something out in less than eight complements i know you're not altogether happy with it. the thing is - consider cutting it out altogether if that's the case.
mircea_popescu: popper nearly forgot to mention that his employer these days is USG agency AH or something.
pete_dushenski: "itz was offered by Popper. The focus of Popper's piece is" << also, switch of tenses in same paragraph
pete_dushenski: "Only a passing mention of the post-Google salary he was drawing from United States Government security agency linked venture capital firm Andreessen1 Horowitz was offered by Popper." << reads funny. maybe missing a hyphen, or a comma, or needs a new ordering or something.
BingoBoingo: Anyways provided Joe's people provided accurate accounting for the wares they are leasing processor in box is "Opteron 170" so not the newest bos in the world
pete_dushenski not the right guy to answer this
BingoBoingo: Because what other ports should it have open?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ... was it one of the numerous scurrying vermin theo allows himself to be surrounded by? << hard to tell. derpy oversight ? who knows.
pete_dushenski: so apple can buy russia (tm) (r) but still has to nickel and dime the poor users of its shrinking sandboxes
pete_dushenski: in other nyooz, "Apple Inc said it will soon start charging for iTunes Radio, its music-streaming service that competes with Pandora Media Inc."
mod6: ^6 it is then
assbot: Logged on 16-01-2016 01:00:35; BingoBoingo: https://bitnodes.21.co/nodes/?q=/therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99 << 6!
assbot: The Brokenness of MaidSafe | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1RrkRW7 )
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-01-2016#1371845 << obligatory >> http://www.contravex.com/2014/04/20/the-brokenness-of-maidsafe/
asciilifeform: ... was it one of the numerous scurrying vermin theo allows himself to be surrounded by?
asciilifeform: and, the mega-question
asciilifeform: apparently the mere promise of 'this is the next thing' is sufficient scambait for avaricious idiots
mircea_popescu: other than getting random derps to self-importantly all over themselves at "conferences" and other pleb gatherings.
asciilifeform: am i the only one who thinks of... chastity belt, when reads 'maidsafe'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i left the original format string intact
mircea_popescu: /therealbitcoin.org:0.9.99.99/ << how come this wasn't 0.99.99.99 anyway ?
mircea_popescu: in fact the fdic centralized banking to an unsanitary degree.
thestringpuller: how does the FDIC decentralize trust
mircea_popescu: " While the introduction of the FDIC and similar programs decentralized trust in financial institutions from one party to two, transactions in much of the world do not offer such protections. Even with such programs, individuals are not universally protected from loss across borders and over certain value."
gernika: "When one of the most important people in Bitcoin states something like that you have to listen." http://avc.com/2016/01/bitcoin-is-dead-long-live-bitcoin/
ascii_butugychag: 'If you noticed, yesterday at the Hutchins Center, they had a very important meeting comprised of 15 or so people. They included 6-8 members from the Federal Reserve, R3 members, Bitcoin industry members, and also individuals from greater finance. When the R3 guy was speaking, https://youtu.be/R0iArSIU0Z8?t=47m16s , he was saying "I don't know what time it is, but any minute now there will
jurov: irdial you're up already, i'll devoice you first, then retry
BingoBoingo: irdial: No problem. Just please !up yourself to make sure you have the process for doing so down.
gernika: But since the bot went down, haven't used it.
ascii_butugychag: in fact, the only time i bought coin since... gox
gernika: And no I don't keep more than a pittance in the wallet at any time.
BingoBoingo: Has the Bitcoin hit your own wallet yet or is it still in Coinbase?
BingoBoingo: gernika: Well, they are having a lot of "service interruptions" today
gernika: thx BingoBoingo. Curious what's the deal with coinbase? I just bought some btc there like 1 hr ago...
BingoBoingo: irdial: See the line here titled register. You are in gribble wot, but not assbot wot yet http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot
mircea_popescu: so the derps are going to control 5bn worth of usg poison with some idle promises for maybe 30-50mn theoretical and in fact a few thouysand here and there ?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> da fuck is this limp dick shit lmao. << This time they skipped the astroturf to just do the VC dollar squeeze
BingoBoingo: The only material difference between XT and "classic" is "classic" has a vague chance of triggering the crisis. XT never had a chance. Not in this or any other hell.
mircea_popescu: all that hard work trying to select a marginally defensible epithet and coming up with "classic"...
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: it's ashame they underestimate the enemy. when reality sets in the classic, "No one saw this coming!!!111" will echo throughout the chambers.
assbot: Mike Hearn's latest blog post was a strategic move by R3 to influence the industry : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1OU3YVg )
BingoBoingo: But yes, fiat media was all ready to run on hearn's "Bitcoin dead" and loyal USG exchanges ready to prevent buying to fire the broomstick one last time
mircea_popescu: "A few hardcore small-blockians might actually delay their switch, because the level of anger from that nasty group will be unimaginable, when their beloved developers betray them like this. Popescu alone will probably have a heart attack :)"
mircea_popescu: "That puts over 50% of the hash rate behind Bitcoin Classic, consensus has been achieved."
thestringpuller: the shitgnome symphony orchestra
gribble: The operation succeeded.
mod6: ;;later tell PeterL Sorry, just missed you there. Thanks for your patience and efforts to build! We'll get through it.
mod6: that way when someone wants to get going with V, they can find the keys without having to dig through 6 blogs.
mod6: but... maybe it'd be useful to put the links to our exported, ascii armored keys in the assets wiki?
mod6: ben_vulpes: so yah, having the keys on blogs/homepages isn't a bad idea.
PeterL: I tried to run the script, it just says ": invalid option"
BingoBoingo: Thanks to V there's no serious need to tag anything beyond the BDB fix in a release, but... Gotta tag something useful as the recommended
ascii_butugychag: yeah the old tree is close to useless
mod6: trying to get there... just a zillion things to work on :(
mod6: my apologies. what exists on the website is meant to help someone build v0.5.3.1 -- the rest of this stuff is basically as-of-yet-unreleased.
PeterL: maybe the website could include a note to not use that script? or just take it off the front page?
mod6: and... like i said, create a new dir, drop this script in there and run it -- but be aware that if left unchanged from the original, it'll not build alf's latest two patches in when pressing the source out.
mod6: but this is the one
mod6 is still digging in the logs.
PeterL: which one is the latest build script?
mod6: you need buildroot+everything to build the static binary.
mod6: <+PeterL> ok, I used v to get the source, then what do i do with the source to build it? << the latest build script will do all of this for you ~except~ creating your ~/.wot directory with the appropriatly named keys placed in the directory.
mod6: oh yeah. that's very old. lemme dig up the latest one.
mod6: i'd try creating a new dir somewhere, putting the build script in the new dir, and then running it again.
assbot: [BTC-dev] UPDATED v0.0.5: Patching The Reference Implementation: AGuide ... ( http://bit.ly/1PjMQbV )
mod6: no, i don't think it's linked. it's not 'official' at this point -- just a thing I put together to build the full orchastra and pull & press src with V.
PeterL: oh, wait, is that the same one linked on trb website?
mod6: PeterL: hi, are you using the v99997 build script?
mircea_popescu: ok that's not it, does the file it wants actually exist on your system ? can you find it ?
PeterL: I see a line "OPENSSL=openssl-1.0.1g" in the script, is that it?
mircea_popescu: mmm im not too fresh on this but somewhere in the script it's told where to find the things it needs,
ascii_butugychag: well you are clearly on some heathen abomination
PeterL: in my folder i am building in there is a directory "openssl-1.0.1g"
PeterL: I thought it built that earlier in the script?
mircea_popescu: holy shit the stuff poor PeterL is running into
mircea_popescu: ahahaah there;'s such a thinkg as hicksville, ny.
mircea_popescu: this is on par with imagining periods will make them feel good.
mircea_popescu: and they never say "i'm the ugly one" either. or you know, "the short boring looking one". it's always "i'm the one in the right
mircea_popescu: nono, i mean with them.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ? << 'Catfishing" or more accurately 'fatfishing'
ascii_butugychag: same thing as with job candidates having much better looking biographies in their cv ?
mircea_popescu: they ever-so-carefully avoid showing how fat they are. on one hand. and on the other...
mircea_popescu: ok, another riddle for the ages: wtf is with all the chicks having much better looking chicks in their profile pics ?
ascii_butugychag feels physically ill recalling the mere existence of the 'shelf-stable cheese' thing
ascii_butugychag: could fight on like the knight in monty python
mircea_popescu: if this didn't exist, the whole "i didn't spend 50 bux to fix my car two weeks ago so i gotta pay 1100 today" thing wouldn't exist.
ascii_butugychag: mega-s33kr1t for mircea_popescu: ebt etc. work at places other than l0lmart
mircea_popescu: they stress-tested this once, delayed ebt almost a whole weekend.
mircea_popescu: what exactly did you imagine keeps the semblance of a "palace" standing up ?
mircea_popescu: this makes so little sense... what'll distribute the iron rats to the trashy plebs ?!
BingoBoingo: ^ Bigger news than the Dow sucking ass today
mircea_popescu: i guess ima pay em a few dollah then.
BingoBoingo: Prolly pissed some users off and they flagged you and got autobanned with a manual overturn of ban
mircea_popescu: anyway, ascii_butugychag point being : mechanized sorting of the playing innocents is, after all, an economic activity.
mircea_popescu: ah ok then.
ascii_butugychag: (does it still have the 'what type of creature are you' thing?)
ascii_butugychag: the character quiz thing, etc
mircea_popescu: and by the apology letter in my inbox.
mircea_popescu: incidentally : it seems my account on okcupid was briefly banned this monring, judging by how the script croaked
mircea_popescu: sometimes the only winning move is not to play.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what kind of answer do you expect them to give ? 'my real passion is mixing cement'
mircea_popescu: lord almighty, is there no end of waitresses whose real passion is photography/music/blabla ?!
ascii_butugychag: moved because richer inca here than there
ascii_butugychag: like the inca empire.
ascii_butugychag: but in point of fact there is no 'honest work' going on anywhere in usa, with possible exception of mafia hits etc
mircea_popescu: but you forget, ustardian doesn't want his "vote to count". he wants the ebt to keep showing up.
mircea_popescu: well, the pretense nigh on embarassed teh bushdom.
mircea_popescu: * mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human. << this, incidentally, why the write on tits is so important.
ascii_butugychag: and they are largely anachronisms anyway (e.g., vote)
mircea_popescu does not honestly believe items not in the republic are in any sense human.
mircea_popescu: actually, for all purposes. there is no sense in which a spambot is not a better "people" than a us citizen today.
ascii_butugychag: because the real thing has various undesirable properties
ascii_butugychag: but the tardatron is genuinely obsessed with making convincing faux ~lusers~
ascii_butugychag: orlov may not even have understood the full implications of his lulzpiece
mircea_popescu: the "reddit experiment" is in full swing, even WE can't distinguish anymore.
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag kinda the point innit.
mircea_popescu: rather good "ai"
mircea_popescu: kinda what the original point was yes,
mircea_popescu: all come up for a strict search for "static variables exist for the "lifetime" of the translation unit that it's defined in, and:"
mircea_popescu: http://www.scriptscoop.net/t/7fdf7581e8e8/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c.html
assbot: The static keyword and its various uses in C++ - Stack Overflow ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTLAMi )
ascii_butugychag: e.g., http://stackoverflow.com/questions/15235526/the-static-keyword-and-its-various-uses-in-c/15235626#15235626
mircea_popescu: because people go around with links to that in their pastes ?
ascii_butugychag: and i'm not seeing any obvious spamola in duck's other posts
mircea_popescu: notice that the [no doubt actual] google software engineer behind the crapolade is deeply aware of what the holes in the levies are.
mircea_popescu: Dzek Trek: "@MooingDuck is the best teacher here. He explains everything in the way that just listeners want to hear."
mircea_popescu: ThePhD: "To this day, MooingDuck has probably been the most helpful lounge person I've come across."
mircea_popescu: "ai", in the sense not of intelligence, but in the sense of "not distinguishable from average human".
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag then i read it carefully. notice how the whole thing makes no sense and there's actually visible lines where syntactic units were thrown together ?
mircea_popescu: jurov i have nfi why they imagine this is "discovery"
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mircea_popescu: trinque eliminating the wrong kind of state.
BingoBoingo: Seems the finishing is largegly being 'crowdsourced' but moves to quad core AMD kaveri chip if I recal correctly
ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: amd publishes the chip docs, you're welcome to finish it personally...
BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: I only found out about the APU2 because openbsd-misc has people occasionally derping about the unfinished firmware on the new one
assbot: The ugly truth: Bitcoin is doomed and needs to be replaced : ethereum ... ( http://bit.ly/1OTISGB )
BingoBoingo: How the social engineering sausage is made
trinque: "By saying "eliminate the state" we are advocating a security improvement, namely adopting signature schemes that do not need to record information after every signature. We are not talking about eliminating other types of states. We love most states, especially yours!" << oh god
ascii_butugychag: i don't know of any other mobo vendor which does this.
ascii_butugychag: but they actually publish schematics. you could even have your own made, somewhere.
ascii_butugychag: only marred by the soldered-down non-ecc ram
ascii_butugychag: the pce apu is actually my favourite amd64 box of all time
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it could just as well be dude watching an insect burner thing going "i guess eventuallt it'll fill up"
assbot: Logged on 15-01-2016 10:50:59; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370682 << you would think that the fucking idiots making handcuffs would have figured out the importance of all using the same key. but no : everyone uses ever-so-slightly-different plain, rectangular shits. and so because i have a bunch of various cuffs and because ending up unable to free a girl happened exactly once... i'm stuck carrying around a fuc
jurov: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371019 ha! and i wondered what model these pesky keys in eulora follow
thestringpuller: I'm misinterpreting it then.
thestringpuller: well pointless wasn't left with much optimism just, "Eventually I will lose to the witless."
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: It seems we are living in your Pointless and Witless hypothetical. That story didn't have a happy ending tho.
mircea_popescu: derps on a first name basis with me. perhaps on account of my having fucked their mothers or something, no idea.
mircea_popescu: Mircea is free to attack the coming upgrade. He will fail, because "Bitcoin is not a reflection of Mircea's hopes and aspirations, but a check on them."
thestringpuller: what's so lulzy? that Gavin and Hearn tried to build a nuke and failed miserably like best korea. (where their solution to rockets is having 1000 north koreans fling the bomb over the ocean)
mircea_popescu: in other news, http://qntra.net/2015/01/the-hard-fork-missile-crisis/#comment-40223 this shit's fucking epic
ascii_butugychag: the desk isn't even small. but the laptop and two hanging lcd occupy almost all of the width
mircea_popescu: am i a truly miserable character if the sufferances of the young wethers in my own party actually amuse me ?
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are you doing, assembling ipads ?
mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> a proper thing simply does not fit on this here desk. <<as the world famous afanti once said, "don't laugh at chinese nopee girls lest you come to ride on their desks one day"
ascii_butugychag: but not as painful as the idiot crapple kbd
ascii_butugychag: trinque: variant thereof, but with arrows
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1371131 << what was so hard about these
gribble: (nethash takes no arguments) -- Shows the current estimate for total network hash rate, in Ghps.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so what's the rest of that shaking ny black dude hands story ?
gribble: The average time to generate a block at 768156022.097 Mhps, given difficulty of 1.13354299801e+11, is 1 week, 0 days, 8 hours, 3 minutes, and 24 seconds
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/author.php?author=Ifni | Despite the urgency of escalating health care costs, there seems to be a slackidemic among those in power preventing any meaningful action from being taken.
ben_vulpes: *and* the child may be getting it as well.
ben_vulpes: *and* the girl is sick.
mircea_popescu: it's not a matter of scale except to the layman. it is a matter of very alphabetical lists of things, for the professional.
mircea_popescu: the criteria for operability are very strictly given. for instance pancreatic cancer : has it touched the fat planes protecting the mesenteric vessels ?
thestringpuller: there is no difference?
mircea_popescu: what exactly is the difference between "politician"? and hobo ? student ? etc.
ascii_butugychag: 'These two groups will always be at odds: the former striving endlessly to turn shitholes into nice little houses, and shabby ghettos into marginally liveable neighborhoods; and the latter preying upon the former's parks for places to sleep, their churches for free meals, and generally attempting to take the nice things for which they did no work and kick the others out.' << that last sent
ben_vulpes: there are twenty feet of tarpaulined hoarder-pile stacked along 20th avenue, just outside the aforementioned col. summers park
mircea_popescu: you need the same.
ascii_butugychag: then what do i need, tank column ??
assbot: Defend the world-trashers at the expense of those doing their tiny damndest, and lets see where that gets you ... ( http://bit.ly/1n0N6kX )
ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2016/01/15_defend-the-world-trashers-at-the-expense-of-those-doing-their-tiny-damndest-and-lets-see-where-that-gets-you.html << i think deedbot- mised this one
ascii_butugychag: (has anybody built the thing with clang? i wouldn't use such a trb in the field, but it would be handy for scientific - code coverage, flow graph, etc. purposes)
mircea_popescu: you want exactly what the market wants : a truck with good highway behaviour.
ascii_butugychag: because you're paying for that transmission being there at all
ascii_butugychag: nah that's what they do ~now~
mircea_popescu: i have no idea what the correct way would be, but i envisaged an auto-transfer arrangement, where the engine powers the drive train except if torque pull gets too strong in which case it kicks off and electric engine takes over
ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-01-2016#1370918 << ever since dc metro put in human drivers again into most of the trains, the thing brakes 10 times, lurches, nauseating
ascii_butugychag: (you win on efficiency, cost, and also get the regenerative brake thing)
ascii_butugychag: but the CORRECT way to do these is to throw out the transmission box and have 1 electric motor per wheel.
ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: these exist, are called bulldozer ?
mircea_popescu: and in spite of being able to pull train cars / tanks / your house, iut would still do ok on the freeway.
mircea_popescu: right. so the idea was that you could market a 100k real suv/pick up with 4k lbft torque, which if so attached would pull the light out and drag it with two yards' worth of sidewalk and the parked cars.
mircea_popescu: so 300k car. what happens if i attach that 300k car to a street pole and go ful lthrothle in the ist ?
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: you can't really put a real engine in the composite shits. << what "composite shits" are these ? most high-end cars have carbon-fibre tubs and 600hp+ turbocharged engines with 500lb ft+ of torque